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How was the recoil for you? I've never shot old rifles before.
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Terrific pics and an absolutely beautiful rifle! Appears to be a good shooter too!
I'm very jealous... |
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6.5x55 is supposed to be a death ray on game animals up to and including (slightly) smaller moose in Scandinavia.
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Cool! I wonder if the old ammo would clean up in a vibrator? I cleaned 1000 rounds of German Nato with no problems.
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How was the recoil for you? I've never shot old rifles before. The recoil of the 6.5 X 55 is very nice and easy. I was also shooting an 8mm Mauser today, and it kicks like a mule compared to this one. |
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I was really hoping this article would be out today, thank you again OP for always providing new and interesting information
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Cool! I wonder if the old ammo would clean up in a vibrator? I cleaned 1000 rounds of German Nato with no problems. FB Great minds, and all that. I tried some in my case vibrator, and it cleaned off a little of the corrosion on the brass, but not very much. I shot that ammo and some that was still dirty, and they shot the same, so I don't guess I'll waste any more time with polishing it. |
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That ammo is NOT corrosive, sir. Good to know. I wasn't taking any chances. |
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nice report!
so can I have first crack at that rifle if you decide to sell it?? |
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That is scary accurate. Great thread again!
You sure come up with some seriously cool older stuff! HH |
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I wonder how she would shoot at 100 and 200 yards? Nice write up as usual. |
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I always look forward to reports, and this made my morning.
If it matters to anyone here, the 6.5 ammo in the photos looks in about the same condition as the lot I just bought from Samco (listed as having mild corrosion). |
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OP, Nice rifle!
I recently acquired one myself, but mine was a conversion. All in all the same (mine is a 38 converted to 96) except mine has the downward facing bolt. I thought mine was in great condition but you're is absolutely tits! Beautiful rife and NICE GROUPS! I'm still itchin to see how mine will do. I got about 10 boxes of that exact same ammo too, nice to see it's good ammo. |
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I remember those beauties. I had whole bunches of them I bought for $60.00 each in early 90's. I regretfully sold them all. Now you can't find them in excellent condition for less than $400.00 (which I think it is still a great deal when you consider the quality of these guns)
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That one's almost as pretty as my dad's.
His is Carl Gustav, stamped 1898. It will shoot the balls off a flea at 800 yards. |
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Yes, it is a fine rifle. Some don't think it is as strong as the 98 but it works. Cock on closing, right?
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I remember those beauties. I had whole bunches of them I bought for $60.00 each in early 90's. I regretfully sold them all. Now you can't find them in excellent condition for less than $400.00 (which I think it is still a great deal when you consider the quality of these guns) *COCKPUNCH* |
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Quoted: I wonder how she would shoot at 100 and 200 yards? Nice write up as usual. I've done sub-MOA with several Swede Mausers at 100 yds using M/41 pricksytte ammo. It's great ammo, and the Swedes are tackdrivers in most cases. At 200 yds, the rifles are still capable of MOA, given a good shooter. Other fine Mausers like 98/22's and 98/29's pale in comparison to the Swede Mauser's accuracy. Even with commercial ammo (Hot Shot, Privi, etc) the Swedes will outshoot most any other milsurp rifle. |
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With my Swedish heritage, my father bought all of his sons a Swedish Carl Gustaf Mauser. Mine is from 1913 IIRC.
I love shooting it. I shoot it at steel at 400 - 600 yards. Incredibly accurate. My father took moose with one as a boy. Great rifle. |
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Tjena!
Yep, the Swede ammo corrodes even in the battle packs, it's due to the acidic cardboard they used. Not a problem unless you're shooting a Ljungman. They are sweet rifles for sure! |
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I've got one in the safe. Looks just like the one O_P tested.
I bought it way back when they were selling for like $69.95 and was going to rebarrel/ restock it for use as a hunting rifle. Except, it was too nice to mess with. All the numbers matched, even the barrel bands. My barrel is rated a "2" but that is the only flaw in the whole rifle. So it sits in my safe and has appreciated in value several times what I paid for it. Gee, ain't that a shame? Don in Ohio |
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Yes, it is a fine rifle. Some don't think it is as strong as the 98 but it works. Cock on closing, right? Yes, it lacks the third safety lug, but I doubt there is really much difference in strength. And, yes, it does cock on closing. |
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Some more Swede info:
The other stock disk numbers are bore size. Yours was 6.49 on the date of measurement. Note the little triangle over the 9. Also the barrels were threaded for a blank firing attachment. They stopped that after some year that has escaped me. From a distance, you can tell if an M38 is a rebuilt M96 if it still has the straight bolt handle. M38s with a bent handle were new production. |
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How was the recoil for you? I've never shot old rifles before. You're missing out. A lot. My M91-30 has a pretty stout caliber compared to most modern military rifles (7.62x54R, comparable to .30-06), and has a steel buttplate. Recoil is mild due to the length and weight of the rifle. My .30-30 kicks about as bad as the Mosin-Nagant does, and it has a much smaller caliber. Then again, I didn't have any recoil issues or bruising after firing about a thousand rounds through a Rem 870 (including about a hundred rifled slugs) at the range for three days in a row, and I absolutely love my dad's Guide Gun in .45-70, so maybe I'm not the best one to ask about recoil. |
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I know that you are a reloader, so I'll pass along a tip: any US made 6.5 brass will NOT be as accurate as that corroded mil surp ammo. Here is why:
-measure the base/head diameter of your surplus brass. -no measure any US made case. The USA made case will be significantly SMALLER in diameter. Result is: larger groups. To get the best ammo, you will have to use ammo made in Europe, like Lapua or Norma brass. Many US dies will size the stuff wrong too. My swede is a semi-auto Ljungman; it is also very accurate with that old corroded ammo. Test the jacket - it should be mild steel like the .30-06 Garand ammo that DCM./CMP got from Greece. |
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Excellent rifles. The later shorter models with the bent bolt handle are often more popular, but I like the "old" long version of the rifles better myself. Mine is from 1899, but doesn't look anywhere near as beautiful as the example Old_Painless has.
When I was a kid in Denmark, the 6.5x55mm round was the standard rifle round for competition shooting. My club had a bunch of old Mauser actions (German, not Swedish), with heavy barrels in 6.5mm, and nice competition stocks. Those were super-sweet rifles!! Fantastic accuracy at 200 and 300 m. |
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I know that you are a reloader, so I'll pass along a tip: any US made 6.5 brass will NOT be as accurate as that corroded mil surp ammo. Here is why: -measure the base/head diameter of your surplus brass. -no measure any US made case. The USA made case will be significantly SMALLER in diameter. Result is: larger groups. To get the best ammo, you will have to use ammo made in Europe, like Lapua or Norma brass. Many US dies will size the stuff wrong too. My swede is a semi-auto Ljungman; it is also very accurate with that old corroded ammo. Test the jacket - it should be mild steel like the .30-06 Garand ammo that DCM./CMP got from Greece. Thanks for the info. My buddy Joe loads the 6.5 X 55 and he uses some Lapua brass for his loads. I will look for some of that brass. |
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Nice
My first deer rifle was a swede Model 94 carbine with a Herter's muzzle brake over the threads. It had a deafening muzzle blast. The18" barrel and brake vented the blast right back towards the shooter. Shutting a cock on closing bolt was rather interesting when I was 12. I learned to be rather frisky shutting bolts,and to watch the front of my face when working a bolt while the rifle was shouldered. That was also the rifle I learned to reload on. Finding brass and bullets was always a challenge back then. |
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Excellent rifles. The later shorter models with the bent bolt handle are often more popular, but I like the "old" long version of the rifles better myself. Mine is from 1899, but doesn't look anywhere near as beautiful as the example Old_Painless has. When I was a kid in Denmark, the 6.5x55mm round was the standard rifle round for competition shooting. My club had a bunch of old Mauser actions (German, not Swedish), with heavy barrels in 6.5mm, and nice competition stocks. Those were super-sweet rifles!! Fantastic accuracy at 200 and 300 m. W. D. M. "Karamojo" Bell, shot more than 1,000 elephants in the period 1895-1930 using a Mannlicher in 6.5 x 54. Just goes to show that "hitting the right spot" is more important than "power". |
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