IT'S A FAKE --- Birthers punked

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Posted: 8/3/2009 4:00:25 PM EDT

http://fearlessblogging.com/post/view/3037%22

Apparently this guy made the Kenya BC ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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ETA: thur 8pm

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2307402/posts?page=2240#2240http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2307402/posts?page=2240#2240

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2307402/posts?page=2246#2246

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ETA:825am You got to be fucking kidding me.....

Aussie Gal
The Australian ABC have found the man whose birth certificate was copied. Listen to the interview here.

http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2008/s2646009.htm

His birth certificate was up on the net and they managed to find it.

Just over half way thru

ETA: TUE 745am............This is getting strange.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2307402/posts?page=1479#1479

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2307402/posts?page=1482#1482

As I was just saying......Even the similarities have differences.

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8-3

Kenya BC a fraud? Template of forgery found?

Check out FR....................the whole thing is a fake.

I THINK WE NEED TO DROP IT AND FOCUS BACK ON OBAMACARE and CAP&TAX.

Looks like the “original” may be a fake, too.

See
http://www.bomford.net/worcestershire/images/DavidJeffreyBomfordBirthCertDoc65.jpg.

Someone posted this elsewhere:

I wanted to see if I could find any images of similar documents from Kenya around the same time period that could be compared to the certificate on the web. I spent several hours with Google image search on that before I decided to broaden my search outside of Kenya-specific documents.

It was some time later that I finally spotted a thumbnail on one of the results pages that looked very much like the Kenyan certificate. I pulled up the full size image and found that it was virtually EXACTLY the same type of document.

It was a scanned image of a “Certified Copy of Registration of Birth” dated in 1964 for a David Jeffrey Bomford on a genealogy website for the Bomford family. Except that David Jeffrey Bomford wasn’t born in Kenya, he was born in South Australia. But what was even more interesting was certain other features of the document as compared to the Kenya certificate.

The names of the registrar and the district registrar were the SAME NAMES as given in the Kenya certificate save for the first initials, i.e. G.H. Lavender and J.H. Miller in the Bomford document versus E.H. Lavender and M.H. Miller in the Kenya document.

Also, the book number (44B) and page number (5733) were the exactly the same on both documents.

The image of the Bomford certificate seems to prove beyond any doubt that not only is the Kenya certificate a fake, but that whomever faked it used the Bomford certificate as the template.

291 posted on Monday, August 03, 2009 7:09:52 PM by Technical Editor link

Look familiar?

Posted: 8/3/2009 4:04:15 PM EDT

[#1]

Well Duh...

Posted: 8/3/2009 4:07:32 PM EDT

[#2]

So Obama was born in Australia?

Posted: 8/3/2009 4:11:51 PM EDT

[#3]

Where's the stain in the "mother" box, then?

Posted: 8/3/2009 4:12:30 PM EDT

[#4]

What if the South Australian one is a fake??????

Posted: 8/3/2009 4:15:06 PM EDT

[#5]

Well, I'd like to congratulate the looney right for making us look at stupid as the left did when they came out with the fake Bush memo.

Good job.

Posted: 8/3/2009 4:16:38 PM EDT

[#6]

Quoted:

Well, I'd like to congratulate the looney right for making us look at stupid as the left did when they came out with the fake Bush memo.

Good job.

To be fair..........The same loony right website that debunked the dan rather memos is the same loony right website that today debunked this BC.

Posted: 8/3/2009 4:16:39 PM EDT

[#7]

Fail, they are not even folded the same.

ETA: Don't take this post in the belief that I think it's not a fake, its just not a fake of the one posted in the OP.

Posted: 8/3/2009 4:16:45 PM EDT

[#8]

Not buying any in this thread.

Posted: 8/3/2009 4:17:14 PM EDT

[#9]

Quoted:

Fail, they are not even folded the same.

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb221/nbka/kenyandocument.jpg

See!

Posted: 8/3/2009 4:19:23 PM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:
Fail, they are not even folded the same.

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb221/nbka/kenyandocument.jpg

I knew it !

Posted: 8/3/2009 4:20:46 PM EDT

[#11]

Obama dont play cricket, mate....

Posted: 8/3/2009 4:22:44 PM EDT

[#12]

did some DU'er come up with this to disprove the kenyan one?

That isn't close to the same document in the original picture lol.

Posted: 8/3/2009 4:23:54 PM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:

did some DU'er come up with this to disprove the kenyan one?

That isn't close to the same document in the original picture lol.

+1

Posted: 8/3/2009 4:23:59 PM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:

I THINK WE NEED TO DROP IT AND FOCUS BACK ON OBAMACARE and CAP&TAX.

Is your own life so perfectly in order that you can take time to tell others what to do?

And believe it or not, some of us can actually think about two things at once.

Posted: 8/3/2009 4:25:19 PM EDT

[#15]

Get ready for lots of fakes. From DU:

ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Aug-02-09 07:17 PM
Original message
Calling all DUers with Photoshop! Your country needs you!Updated at 6:58 PM

Regarding the "Kenyan birth certificate" (found here), a fellow DUer made an excellent suggestion:

cliffordu Sun Aug-02-09 03:43 PM
20. We need to create THOUSANDS of them and ship them all over the fucking place.

bury the fuckers in precise fakes, all just a little different from each other.

I wanna see heads explode. I wanna see people drooling from the breakdowns.

Won't you please help? Also, for anyone else (who doesn't have Photoshop) we will need a name for this operation.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6205189

Posted: 8/3/2009 4:28:29 PM EDT

[#16]

Fuck Bomford!

Posted: 8/3/2009 4:29:58 PM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:
STOP.

Check out FR....................the whole thing is a fake.

I THINK WE NEED TO DROP IT AND FOCUS BACK ON OBAMACARE and CAP&TAX.

Looks like the “original” may be a fake, too.

See
http://www.bomford.net/worcestershire/images/DavidJeffreyBomfordBirthCertDoc65.jpg.

Someone posted this elsewhere:

I wanted to see if I could find any images of similar documents from Kenya around the same time period that could be compared to the certificate on the web. I spent several hours with Google image search on that before I decided to broaden my search outside of Kenya-specific documents.

It was some time later that I finally spotted a thumbnail on one of the results pages that looked very much like the Kenyan certificate. I pulled up the full size image and found that it was virtually EXACTLY the same type of document.

It was a scanned image of a “Certified Copy of Registration of Birth” dated in 1964 for a David Jeffrey Bomford on a genealogy website for the Bomford family. Except that David Jeffrey Bomford wasn’t born in Kenya, he was born in South Australia. But what was even more interesting was certain other features of the document as compared to the Kenya certificate.

The names of the registrar and the district registrar were the SAME NAMES as given in the Kenya certificate save for the first initials, i.e. G.H. Lavender and J.H. Miller in the Bomford document versus E.H. Lavender and M.H. Miller in the Kenya document.

Also, the book number (44B) and page number (5733) were the exactly the same on both documents.

The image of the Bomford certificate seems to prove beyond any doubt that not only is the Kenya certificate a fake, but that whomever faked it used the Bomford certificate as the template.

291 posted on Monday, August 03, 2009 7:09:52 PM by Technical Editor link

Look familiar?

http://www.bomford.net/worcestershire/images/DavidJeffreyBomfordBirthCertDoc65.jpg

Still funny............

Posted: 8/3/2009 4:31:45 PM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:
Get ready for lots of fakes. From DU:

ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Aug-02-09 07:17 PM
Original message
Calling all DUers with Photoshop! Your country needs you!Updated at 6:58 PM

Regarding the "Kenyan birth certificate" (found here), a fellow DUer made an excellent suggestion:

cliffordu Sun Aug-02-09 03:43 PM
20. We need to create THOUSANDS of them and ship them all over the fucking place.

bury the fuckers in precise fakes, all just a little different from each other.

I wanna see heads explode. I wanna see people drooling from the breakdowns.

Won't you please help? Also, for anyone else (who doesn't have Photoshop) we will need a name for this operation.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6205189

Somebody is scaredy-cat.

Posted: 8/3/2009 4:31:53 PM EDT

[#19]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Well, I'd like to congratulate the looney right for making us look at stupid as the left did when they came out with the fake Bush memo.

Good job.

To be fair..........The same loony right website that debunked the dan rather memos is the same loony right website that today debunked this BC.

I'm afraid that small detail will probably be lost in the clutter.

Posted: 8/3/2009 4:32:08 PM EDT

[#20]

That's really gonna hurt Orly's resale value.....

Posted: 8/3/2009 4:33:47 PM EDT

[#21]

Dammit, I really thought we had him that time!

Posted: 8/3/2009 4:34:30 PM EDT

[#22]

Interesting.

Still, he is a scoundrel.

ETA...Were Australia and Kenya both under British rule at the time?

Posted: 8/3/2009 4:36:35 PM EDT

[#23]

Quoted:

Quoted:

I THINK WE NEED TO DROP IT AND FOCUS BACK ON OBAMACARE and CAP&TAX.

Is your own life so perfectly in order that you can take time to tell others what to do?

And believe it or not, some of us can actually think about two things at once.

By "IT" I mean this BC....It's such an obvious fake I think it should be pointed out as such and dropped. that said.........I'm still all for getting the "vault copy" one in HI.

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ETA: Now if you want to get into who made this fake one and why, I'm all for that too.

Posted: 8/3/2009 4:39:07 PM EDT

[#24]

I'm more interested in his 5 known alias's, Indonesian citizenship (no dual citizenship in Indonesia) and U.S. gov education assistance. Seems he gave up citizenship and mooched off our generosities as an outsider. Furthermore, wasn't his mom's family wealthy?

Posted: 8/3/2009 4:39:22 PM EDT

[#25]

Maybe this Bomford dude forged his certificate using BHO's as a template?

Posted: 8/3/2009 4:39:49 PM EDT

[#26]

Quoted:

Dammit, I really thought we had him that time!

"Missed him by THAT much..."

Posted: 8/3/2009 4:39:50 PM EDT

[#27]

funny thing is the first one is real and now the DUers are creating fake ones to throw us off course

Posted: 8/3/2009 4:39:55 PM EDT

[#28]

Just thinking.... both Kenya and Australia used to be British..... maybe they had a shitload of the same forms stockpiled or printed from the same press / factory / supplier somewhere that just changed out a couple titles / logos and shipped off to each country....

Posted: 8/3/2009 4:43:04 PM EDT

[#29]

How many companies that manufactured and distributed legal forms were based in africa in the 1960's?

Posted: 8/3/2009 4:50:49 PM EDT

[#30]

don't fall for the DUers attempts to create forgeries, the got caught

Posted: 8/3/2009 4:57:06 PM EDT

[#31]

Quoted:
How many companies that manufactured and distributed legal forms were based in africa in the 1960's?

I thought that too....

But you'd have to ask yourself why it just so happens that BOTH names of BOTH the registrars are identical (Lavender & Miller)? & why both have 7s 6d No. 495 in the upper left.

ETA: exact same page/book number too

Posted: 8/3/2009 5:01:48 PM EDT

[#32]

Quoted:

Quoted:

How many companies that manufactured and distributed legal forms were based in africa in the 1960's?

I thought that too....
But you'd have to ask yourself why it just so happens that BOTH names of BOTH the registrars are identical (Lavender & Miller)? & why both have 7s 6d No. 495 in the upper left.

Because the BC from Australia is a crappy Photo-shop of the alleged Kenyan BC.

Edit

Just looking at the word Father in Australian birth certificate makes me face palm on the quality.

Posted: 8/3/2009 5:03:46 PM EDT

[#33]

Meh... the Kenyan one is probably a fake. I can hope, but I also occasionally enjoy the purchase of a "powerball" lotterticket on occasion.

Posted: 8/3/2009 5:04:13 PM EDT

[#34]

Quoted:

Quoted:
How many companies that manufactured and distributed legal forms were based in africa in the 1960's?

I thought that too....

But you'd have to ask yourself why it just so happens that BOTH names of BOTH the registrars are identical (Lavender & Miller)? & why both have 7s 6d No. 495 in the upper left.

Because the BC from Australia is a crappy Photo-shop of the alleged Kenyan BC.

They're some elaborate fuckers then...........they really went into detail creating this site http://www.bomford.net/worcestershire/treeannotated.htm

Posted: 8/3/2009 5:55:59 PM EDT

[#35]

Welcome to the OFFICIAL Web Site of Dr. Orly Taitz Esq.

Please note that previous blogs were hacked, sabotaged or hijacked, such as http://drorly.blogspot.com and http://defendourfreedoms.us and site http://defendourfreedoms.org. Please note that the 2 "defendourfreedoms" sites/blogs are NOT associated with Dr. Orly Taitz Esquire.

Posted: 8/3/2009 5:57:51 PM EDT

[#36]

Crap. I clicked the link on the above site to go to Orly's official site and got a "Attack Site" screen.

Posted: 8/3/2009 6:45:23 PM EDT

[#37]

So, Orly Taitz's website has been hacked, and it seems that the Kenyan BC image has been altered since it first hit the net. Someone seems to take this seriously.

FreeRepublic thread about altered Kenyan BC

Posted: 8/3/2009 6:55:18 PM EDT

[#38]

Posted: 8/3/2009 7:10:36 PM EDT

[#39]

Quoted:

Quoted:
How many companies that manufactured and distributed legal forms were based in africa in the 1960's?

I thought that too....

But you'd have to ask yourself why it just so happens that BOTH names of BOTH the registrars are identical (Lavender & Miller)? & why both have 7s 6d No. 495 in the upper left.

ETA: exact same page/book number too

this is probably because they were printed by the same printer in the UK that did this shit for all the commonwealth/empire countries back then. don't know about the other points you raise except that lavender and miller are pretty common British names and a lot of the admin types were Brits back then. I know this as I used to be British myself.

Posted: 8/3/2009 7:16:15 PM EDT

[#40]

For chris' sakes.

Keep your eye on the ball. No distractions.

BTW,

Bigfoot isn't real either.

Posted: 8/3/2009 7:19:56 PM EDT

[#41]

Quoted:
So Obama was born in Australia?

Posted: 8/3/2009 7:22:45 PM EDT

[#42]

Quoted:
So Obama was born in Australia?

Laugh my ass off!

Posted: 8/3/2009 7:24:19 PM EDT

[#43]

You accidentally the whole thing?

Posted: 8/3/2009 7:25:50 PM EDT

[#44]

If you're not eager and willing to believe every obvious, but anti-Obama lie that comes out of left field...

...you are an Obama supporter.

If you TRULY oppose Obama, you must accept all lies that are told about him, provided that they are anti-Obama.

By willingly allowing your integrity to be corrupted, you will be able to perservere and eventually achieve total victory over Obama.

You must become Obama to defeat Obama.

Posted: 8/3/2009 7:33:40 PM EDT

[#45]

Quoted:
Fail, they are not even folded the same.

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb221/nbka/kenyandocument.jpg

ETA: Don't take this post in the belief that I think it's not a fake, its just not a fake of the one posted in the OP.

you're right. the crease is not even close..

Posted: 8/3/2009 7:40:50 PM EDT

[#46]

Bigfoot isn't real either.

WTF!!!!

Posted: 8/3/2009 7:41:09 PM EDT

[#47]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Fail, they are not even folded the same.

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb221/nbka/kenyandocument.jpg

ETA: Don't take this post in the belief that I think it's not a fake, its just not a fake of the one posted in the OP.

you're right. the crease is not even close..

I would honestly suggest that the BC posted in the OP is a fake.

If you don't believe me, open the picture with a graphics program and zoom in on the word "Father".

It was clearly not on the paper prior to it being folded.

Another interesting thing, did you know that the Kenya BC we saw the other day has been altered? Everyone is throwing out that the # 47044 is a "joke". That is NOT the number on the BC originally circulated. It was 47644. There are several other small things done as well.

DU'ers are scared and have admitted they are attempting to get as many fakes and variations out there as they possibly can.

Posted: 8/3/2009 7:46:19 PM EDT

[#48]

Quoted:

Quoted:

How many companies that manufactured and distributed legal forms were based in africa in the 1960's?

I thought that too....

But you'd have to ask yourself why it just so happens that BOTH names of BOTH the registrars are identical (Lavender & Miller)? & why both have 7s 6d No. 495 in the upper left.

Because the BC from Australia is a crappy Photo-shop of the alleged Kenyan BC.
Edit
Just looking at the word Father in Australian birth certificate makes me face palm on the quality.

Holy shit. You're right.

The rat-bastards!

Look at the "1" in the first field, and the "1" in the Mother field. Two complete different types of serifs.

The Aussie BC is a fake created for the sole purpose of trying to debunk the Kenyan one. WTF?

ETA: I've never seen a typewriter of the period with both a "1" and "l" character.

Posted: 8/3/2009 7:47:05 PM EDT

[#49]

Anyone figure out yet why an official government document dated Feb. 1964 would have "The Republic of Kenya" printed at the top when the country did not have that name until 10 months later? Or are things like that just too inconvenient to acknowledge?

Posted: 8/3/2009 7:48:12 PM EDT

[#50]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Fail, they are not even folded the same.
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb221/nbka/kenyandocument.jpg
ETA: Don't take this post in the belief that I think it's not a fake, its just not a fake of the one posted in the OP.

you're right. the crease is not even close..

I would honestly suggest that the BC posted in the OP is a fake.
If you don't believe me, open the picture with a graphics program and zoom in on the word "Father".
It was clearly not on the paper prior to it being folded.
Another interesting thing, did you know that the Kenya BC we saw the other day has been altered? Everyone is throwing out that the # 47044 is a "joke". That is NOT the number on the BC originally circulated. It was 47644. There are several other small things done as well.
DU'ers are scared and have admitted they are attempting to get as many fakes and variations out there as they possibly can.

That is the first thing I noticed. The letter F and possibly A look original and the others have been edited.

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