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Posted: 7/22/2009 12:05:15 PM EDT

A U.S. soldier stands next to a boy during a patrol with Iraqi forces in Baghdad July 21, 2009.
REUTERS/Mohammed Ameen


A U.S. soldier from Dagger Company, 2-12 Infantry, 4th Brigade keeps his finger near the trigger during a patrol in the village of Sundray in the Pesh Valley in Afghanistan's Kunar Province July 22, 2009.
REUTERS/Tim Wimborne


A U.S. soldier stops traffic while he secures the area in the village of Bagh-e-Soltan in Logar Province in Afghanistan July 22, 2009.
REUTERS/Shamil Zhumatov


A U.S. soldier (L) from Dagger Company, 2-12 Infantry, 4th Brigade looks through the sight of the rifle of his Afghan National Army comrade during a patrol in the village of Tantil in the Pesh Valley in Afghanistan's Kunar Province July 21, 2009.
REUTERS/Tim Wimborne


U.S. soldiers of Gator Company, 2-12 Infantry, 4th Brigade, patrol a road along the Pesh Valley in Afghanistan's Kunar province July 20, 2009.
REUTERS/Tim Wimborne


A U.S. soldier from Dagger Company, 2-12 Infantry, 4th Brigade prepares for a patrol in the village of Tantil in the Pesh Valley in Afghanistan's Kunar Province July 21, 2009.
REUTERS/Tim Wimborne


A U.S. soldier (R) from Dagger Company, 2-12 Infantry, 4th Brigade rests after a foot patrol at Michigan Base in the Pesh Valley in Afghanistan's Kunar Province July 20, 2009. REUTERS/Tim Wimborne


US Marines in Helmand Province, Afghanistan. US Defense Secretary Robert Gates said, in a newspaper interview published Sunday, that US-led forces in Afghanistan must show progress by next summer to avoid the public perception that the conflict has become unwinnable.
(AFP/File/Manpreet Romana)


Afghan army forces surround the body of a suicide attacker in Gardez the provincial capital of Paktiya province east of Kabul, Afghanistan on Tuesday, July 21, 2009. Taliban militants attacked sveral government buildings and a U.S. base in two eastern cities Tuesday in near-simultaneous attacks, a signature of major Taliban assaults. Using suicide bombings, gunfire and rockets, the militants attacked the governor's compound, the intelligence department and the police department in the eastern city of Gardez just before 11 a.m. (0630GMT; 2:30 a.m. EDT), officials said.
(AP Photo/Musadeq Sadeq)


File photo shows a Pakistani tribesman carrying an AK47 assault rifle in the Bajur tribal agency bordering Afghanistan. The price of a Kalashnikov assault rifle is soaring as militant groups and private militias mushroom in an increasingly battle-torn northwest Pakistan, arms dealers and buyers say.
(AFP/File/Tariq Mahmood)


Armed police officers stand near refugees as they arrive in Mingora, capital of Swat District, Pakistan, Tuesday, July 21, 2009. After weeks in sweltering camps, refugees from the Swat Valley began heading home Monday, the first day of the government's official repatriation program for those uprooted by fighting there.
(AP Photo/Alexandre Meneghini)


A hardline Somali Islamist militant cleans his gun under a tree north of Mogadishu July 21, 2009. Intense fighting is making it increasingly difficult to deliver aid to Somalia, where it is crucial to combat cholera outbreaks and maintain food supplies, U.N. agencies said on Tuesday.
REUTERS/Omar Faruk




Armed government troops stand outside the bomb damaged Ritz Carlton and JW Marriott hotels in Jakarta. Indonesian police Tuesday were questioning teachers at an Islamic boarding school, amid reports a former student was one of two suicide bombers involved in last week's Jakarta bombings.
(AFP/File/Romeo Gacad)



Police arrest men believed to be involved in recent shootings in Papua, in Kwanki Baru village in Indonesia's Papua province July 21, 2009. Indonesian police have questioned 12 people in connection with deadly shootings near the giant Grasberg mine in Papua operated by a unit of Freeport McMoran Copper & Gold Inc. Unidentified gunmen have carried out a series of attacks on a road leading to the mine in the past 10 days, killing an Australian technical expert working for Freeport, a guard employed at the mine and wounding seven policemen.
REUTERS/Muhammad Yamin



A soldier stands guard by people waiting to be searched at a checkpoint on the outskirts of Tegucigalpa, Wednesday, July 22, 2009. Honduras' President Manuel Zelaya was ousted by a military-backed coup in Honduras on June 28.
(AP Photo/Arnulfo Franco)


Army soldiers, dressed in historical uniforms, parade during Independence Day celebrations in Tame, Colombia, Monday, July 20, 2009.
(AP Photo/Fernando Vergara)


Mexican soldiers patrol along the streets of Morelia, Michoacan state, Mexico, Monday, July 20, 2009. Mexico has ordered 5,500 federal police, soldiers and navy personnel to move into Michoacan following a cartel's slaying of 20 officers and troops last week in one of the boldest revenge attacks ever mounted against the government.
(AP Photo/Miguel Tovar)


Police officers escort Jose Alberto Lopez, an alleged coordinator for the Mexican drug cartel known as 'La Familia,' during his presentation to the media in Mexico City, Wednesday, July 22, 2009. Lopez was arrested on charges relating to the killings of 12 federal police in the state of Michoacan, earlier this month.
(AP Photo/Marco Ugarte)



Link Posted: 7/22/2009 12:06:26 PM EDT
[#1]
1st.  Thanks lump.
Link Posted: 7/22/2009 12:09:33 PM EDT
[#2]
I always enjoy these threads
Link Posted: 7/22/2009 12:11:42 PM EDT
[#3]
Nice pics...Surprised at the M-16s in PNG...FMS, perhaps?
Link Posted: 7/22/2009 12:12:50 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
I always enjoy these threads


+1
Link Posted: 7/22/2009 12:13:34 PM EDT
[#5]
I think I missed something. Did they change the phonetic alphabet again?
Link Posted: 7/22/2009 12:14:22 PM EDT
[#6]
very nice
Link Posted: 7/22/2009 12:14:53 PM EDT
[#7]
Thanks Lumpy.



As normal, nice pics.
Link Posted: 7/22/2009 12:16:35 PM EDT
[#8]
Link Posted: 7/22/2009 12:19:13 PM EDT
[#9]


Homemade windowed mag?
Link Posted: 7/22/2009 12:20:28 PM EDT
[#10]



Quoted:




Window AK mag!






 
Link Posted: 7/22/2009 12:20:29 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
I always enjoy these threads


Link Posted: 7/22/2009 12:23:24 PM EDT
[#12]


In that region you seem to see quite a few pics of Russian bakelite's with the sides cut out like that.
Link Posted: 7/22/2009 12:24:54 PM EDT
[#13]
Thanks again lumpy...
Link Posted: 7/22/2009 12:26:05 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:


Homemade windowed mag?


Look at the floor plate. WTF?

Is that thing bakelite or metal? Does that thing actually have a plastic window or just a hole cut into it?

Inquiring minds want to know...

My money is on it being an example of "Paki engineering"
Link Posted: 7/22/2009 12:26:22 PM EDT
[#15]
I thought the Mexican army had completely transitioned away from the HK91.
Link Posted: 7/22/2009 12:27:18 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:

Look at the floor plate. WTF?

Is that thing bakelite or metal? Does that thing actually have a plastic window or just a hole cut into it?

Inquiring minds want to know...

My money is on it being an example of "Paki engineering"

Look at the "window". He broke that either on purpose or accidentally. Also, that is a 74, not a 47 as claimed in the caption.
Link Posted: 7/22/2009 12:28:15 PM EDT
[#17]
Why do I think there is more isn't anything left of this guy other than that leg? The angle of the photo, lack of blood (or other leg) tells me this was the only acceptable angle for the picture.



Thanks Lumpy! I like the one with the American sighting the Afghan rifle.

Rob
Link Posted: 7/22/2009 12:28:56 PM EDT
[#18]
Not a 74, look at the slant brake. It's a 47. Some sort of Khyber pass jobbie.
Link Posted: 7/22/2009 12:29:09 PM EDT
[#19]
Thanks Lump.
Link Posted: 7/22/2009 12:30:48 PM EDT
[#20]
I love these threads.

Thanks Lumpy.
Link Posted: 7/22/2009 12:33:44 PM EDT
[#21]
Thanks Lumpy.

Love the wear on some of the guns. (Dont ask me why)
Link Posted: 7/22/2009 12:35:56 PM EDT
[#22]
There is no way in hell anyone that knows even the basics of AKs would think thats an AK74.  Pure AKM.

Its a Russian bakelite mag.  If you have ever owned or handled one, you would realize that anyone with a pocket knife could make that modification to it.

Jesus Christ people, someone didn't start the Pakistani division of Magpul.

Link Posted: 7/22/2009 12:36:01 PM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
Not a 74, look at the slant brake. It's a 47. Some sort of Khyber pass jobbie.


I concur with your observation of the slant brake, but www.centerfiresystems.com/ak-mb.aspx. Also, bakelite ags for AK47s are very very rare. Lastly, look at the size of the hand in relation to the mag. Most adult male Pakis are about the size of a 16 year old boy. That is a 74, not a 47.
Link Posted: 7/22/2009 12:36:15 PM EDT
[#24]
Thanks Lumpy, I always look forward to these post.
Link Posted: 7/22/2009 12:43:28 PM EDT
[#25]



Quoted:


There is no way in hell anyone that knows even the basics of AKs would think thats an AK74.  Pure AKM.



Its a Russian bakelite mag.  If you have ever owned or handled one, you would realize that anyone with a pocket knife could make that modification to it.



Jesus Christ people, someone didn't start the Pakistani division of Magpul.





Raeg tiem nao?



Thanks for the pics.
 
Link Posted: 7/22/2009 12:47:47 PM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Not a 74, look at the slant brake. It's a 47. Some sort of Khyber pass jobbie.


I concur with your observation of the slant brake, but www.centerfiresystems.com/ak-mb.aspx. Also, bakelite ags for AK47s are very very rare. Lastly, look at the size of the hand in relation to the mag. Most adult male Pakis are about the size of a 16 year old boy. That is a 74, not a 47.


Rare in the US, but not the ROTW.

It's clearly an AKM, for one that's obviously not a 74 mag, its too curved.  Second, look at the 45 degree gas block.  74s have a 90 degree gas block.
Link Posted: 7/22/2009 12:47:56 PM EDT
[#27]



Quoted:


There is no way in hell anyone that knows even the basics of AKs would think thats an AK74.  Pure AKM.



Its a Russian bakelite mag.  If you have ever owned or handled one, you would realize that anyone with a pocket knife could make that modification to it.



Jesus Christ people, someone didn't start the Pakistani division of Magpul.





C'mon, marksman121 and I included the
smiley.



 
Link Posted: 7/22/2009 12:53:06 PM EDT
[#28]
More and more PMAGs showing up in US troop pics!  
Link Posted: 7/22/2009 12:53:23 PM EDT
[#29]
AR-18 in one pic? The Jakarta one.

 
Link Posted: 7/22/2009 12:53:43 PM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
There is no way in hell anyone that knows even the basics of AKs would think thats an AK74.  Pure AKM.

Its a Russian bakelite mag.  If you have ever owned or handled one, you would realize that anyone with a pocket knife could make that modification to it.

Jesus Christ people, someone didn't start the Pakistani division of Magpul.



None of the Russian Bakelite mags I've seen have a floor plate like that.
There's more strange to that mag than just the hole broke in the side.
<ETA>
It's a piece of tape over the floor plate. Done because it has broken off at some point.

Link Posted: 7/23/2009 2:30:46 AM EDT
[#31]
BTT
Link Posted: 7/23/2009 2:45:43 AM EDT
[#32]
Thanks Lumpy.
Interesting how more and more of the troops from poor nations that have large numbers of TVs have started keeping their booger hooks off the bang switch.
Link Posted: 7/23/2009 4:49:10 AM EDT
[#33]
How does one become a "hardline" ?
Link Posted: 7/23/2009 5:03:21 AM EDT
[#34]
I know the dude in the top picture, thats my unit  I was on that patrol.
Link Posted: 7/23/2009 5:03:52 AM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
AR-18 in one pic? The Jakarta one.  


Is this a joke?  Its the gun Al Pacino used in Heat.

Its a Indonesian produced FNC.
Link Posted: 7/23/2009 5:06:27 AM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
I thought the Mexican army had completely transitioned away from the HK91.


Most conscript leg units are still totting -91s.  A few of the HS/LD types, and Federal Law Enforcement have been seen with FX-05s (the G36 clone, er I mean derivative.)
Link Posted: 7/23/2009 5:10:46 AM EDT
[#37]
Quoted:
I thought the Mexican army had completely transitioned away from the HK91.


No, when I was there a year ago, I remember quite specifically that the Mexican soldier (in uniform) who hopped onto our tour-bus had a G3/HK91
Link Posted: 7/23/2009 5:17:17 AM EDT
[#38]
Thanks Lumpy!

ETA: Post 10000! Wohoo!
Link Posted: 7/23/2009 5:21:49 AM EDT
[#39]
Link Posted: 7/23/2009 5:22:23 AM EDT
[#40]
The carry handle can be moundted on the side rail and double as a grenade launcher sight... oh wait.






I miss the carry handle.
Link Posted: 7/23/2009 5:47:15 AM EDT
[#41]
Thanks Lumpy, I always enjoy these posts.
Link Posted: 7/23/2009 6:41:04 AM EDT
[#42]
Thanks for compiling these pics, neat to see the small arms being used around the world today,
Link Posted: 7/23/2009 6:50:18 AM EDT
[#43]
Again, cool photos. I wonder what the price of AK's are up to, seeing as they say that the price is going up. Still likely better then what we can get semis for over here.
Link Posted: 7/23/2009 6:58:09 AM EDT
[#44]
Quoted:
I know the dude in the top picture, thats my unit  I was on that patrol.

He looks in a bad mood.

Link Posted: 7/23/2009 7:07:42 AM EDT
[#45]
Link Posted: 7/23/2009 7:10:58 AM EDT
[#46]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I know the dude in the top picture, thats my unit  I was on that patrol.

He looks in a bad mood.



He had alot of reasons to be that day.


The picture of the dudes leg reminds me of a few SVEST bombers I've seen here (post boom)  its mostly just pieces or parts of pieces.
Link Posted: 7/23/2009 7:15:59 AM EDT
[#47]
Thanks Lumpy.
Link Posted: 7/23/2009 7:19:16 AM EDT
[#48]
Quoted:


In that region you seem to see quite a few pics of Russian bakelite's with the sides cut out like that.


wouldn't make the mag "less reliable" like it did on the Chucho(sp) french rifle. ??
Link Posted: 7/23/2009 7:21:27 AM EDT
[#49]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Not a 74, look at the slant brake. It's a 47. Some sort of Khyber pass jobbie.


I concur with your observation of the slant brake, but www.centerfiresystems.com/ak-mb.aspx. Also, bakelite ags for AK47s are very very rare. Lastly, look at the size of the hand in relation to the mag. Most adult male Pakis are about the size of a 16 year old boy. That is a 74, not a 47.


Looks like probably a Russian AKM to me.

Also- cool to see the FNCs in use.
Link Posted: 7/23/2009 7:22:30 AM EDT
[#50]





Clearly he never read about the issues with the Chauchat MG, did he?

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