This document has been passed around for years (obviously, it's from 1993) when the anti's were pushing to get the AWB passed. It was verified as authentic and genuine by the NRA and other groups long ago. It's the real deal.

This is what the gun-grabbers had in store for us, but we managed to beat them off after the AWB was passed.

THIS is why it's important for us to continue to be on the offensive and not stop for one second now that we've got Heller and other cases working for us. We HAVE to keep pushing while they're on the defensive and unorganized, we HAVE to keep getting our rights back one piece at a time.

For those of you who are too fucking lazy and/or illiterate to wade through all of this, I'll have footnotes at the bottom summarizing what their plan was (and still is).

Handgun Control Inc. 5 Year Plan In December of 1993, this document was leaked by a Handgun Control Inc. volunteer, and exposes the ultimate goals of elite anti-gunners; The eventual elimination of ALL guns and ALL hunting! (NOTES AND MINUTES OF MEETING OF FRIDAY, DECEMBER 17, 1993) ROUGH DRAFT PROPOSAL FOR INTERNAL MEMO AND FIVE YEAR PLAN (OF HANDGUN CONTROL INC.) WHAT IS PENDING NOW AND CAN BE LAW IN 1994 * Ban of all clips holding over 6 bullets. * Ban on all semiautos which can fire more than 6 bullets without reloading. * Ban of possession of parts to convert arms into miliary configuration. * Ban on all pump shotguns capable of being converted to more than 5 shots without reloading. * Banning of all machine guns, destructive devices, short shotguns/rifles and assault weapons. * Banning of Saturday Night Specials. * Banning of Non-Sporting Ammunition * Arsenal licensing (for possession of multiple guns and large amounts of ammunition) * Elimination of the Department of Civil Marksmanship. * Ban on possession of a firearm within a home located within 1000 feet of a schoolyard. * Ban on all realistic replicas/toy guns or non-firearms capable of being rendered realistic. * The right of the victim of gun violence to sue manufacturers and dealers to be affirmed and perhaps, aided with money from government programs. * Taxes on ammo, Dealers licenses & guns to offset the medical costs to society. * The eventual ban on all semiautomatics (regardless of when made or caliber). WHAT WAS ONLY A DREAM TEN YEARS AGO CAN BE REALITY AS EARLY AS THIS YEAR (After the meeting the following ideas were the result of a brainstorming session to guide the focus of gun control initiatives over the next five years. These may not be politically feasible for 1994, but we are confident that with continued pressure we can achieve most if not all of these goals within the next five years. The following list is condensed from our meeting in which we considered the best ideas for public safety expansion. The time is right for action.) FIVE YEAR PLAN LICENSES: 1. NATIONAL LICENSING OF ALL HANDGUN PURCHASES This is at the top of our list, however, the political climate may be right to initiate this step immediately. Please refer to our memo outlining our ideas on how this should be executed. 2. LICENSE FOR RIFLES AND SHOTGUNS We should take our cues from Great Britain. Strict licensing should be mandatory -- for all firearms whether handguns or not. 3. STATE LICENSES FOR OWNERSHIP OF FIREARMS We want to take a workable idea from Great Britain, whereas, we should require the states to issue strict licenses for possession and require the licenses to be signed by at least three public officials --i.e., the police chief, city attorney and mayor, for example, to eliminate ownership by dangerous individuals. It is reasonable to require that all individuals must prove to the signers that they require a firearm. This should be attached to any legislation requiring purchasers to show a need for a firearm. 4. REDUCTION OF THE NUMBER OF GUNS TO REQUIRE AN ARSENAL LICENSE Right now the proposed Arsenal licenses which Senator Feinstein should be pushing for, requires an "Arsenal License" for those people who feel they need more than 20 guns and 1000 rounds of ammunition. We feel that number is too generous, due to the fact that any number of guns constitutes a grave threat to the safety of the community; we suggest Strongly that this license limit be reduced to possession greater than 5 guns and 250 rounds of ammunition. 5. ARSENAL LICENSE FEES It is not unreasonable to require a yearly fee for an Arsenal license to be at least $300, with a cap of $1000. The money collected can be used to defray the immense medical costs directly attributed to these deadly weapons. 6. LIMITS ON ARSENAL LICENSING No Arsenal Licensing to be permitted in counties with populations of more than 200,000. 7. REQUIREMENT OF FEDERALLY APPROVED STORAGE SAFES FOR ALL GUNS We should follow Great Britain's lead on this. All licensed gun owners should be required to have a storage safe which meets minimum federally mandated requirements. This step would reduce the tragic accidents which claim the lives of tens of thousands of children a year and make it more difficult for burglars to steal the guns. 8. INSPECTION LICENSE Another good revenue source would be mandatory inspection licensing of all safes. Each safe would be registered with a specific serial number and the serial numbers and types of weapons stored would be on file with federal and state authorities. Since unannounced inspectors can insure that all declared weapons are being properly stored, all safe licenses should have an additional yearly fee to offset the cost of these spot inspections. PUBLIC SAFETY REGULATIONS: 9.BAN ON MANUFACTURING IN COUNTRIES WITH A POPULATION OF MORE THAN 200,000 Guns are being built all the time and the number of licensed manufacturers it too great to justify the threat to public safety. This is a small step to reduce the number of these shops where, anything, even machine guns, are being built every day. 10. BANNING ALL MILITARY STYLE FIREARMS The pending national ban on all Assault Weapons, based on a point system can be expanded to eventually cover any firearm with a remotely military appearance. We feel that this aggressive appearance appeals to the type of dangerous individuals who are a definite threat to public safety. We hope that this point system can eventually be expanded to high powered airguns and "paint ball" weapons, which can inflict great damage, and with a little effort can be converted to real guns. 11.BANNING OF ANY MACHINE GUN PARTS OR PARTS WHICH CAN BE USED IN A MACHINE GUN Periodicals such as "The Shotgun News" particularly cater to individuals who wish to build illegal machine guns. If Senator Feinstein's courageous section of the crime bill is successful in banning all machine gun parts expect for police and military, then there would be no legitimate need for machine gun parts except to build illegal weapons. 12. BANNING THE CARRYING OF A FIREARMS ANYWHERE BUT HOME OR TARGET RANGE OR IN TRANSIT FROM ONE TO THE OTHER We should institute a federal mandate to the states to strictly regulate the carrying of a firearm. 13. BANNING REPLACEMENT PARTS (MFG, SALE, POSSESSION, TRANSFER, INSTALLATION) EXCEPT BARREL, TRIGGER GROUP Thousand of people are building illegal weapons every day. We can put a dent in this by banning parts and parts kits, except those items like the barrel and trigger group, which are most likely to wear out due to use. 14. ELIMINATION OF THE CURIO RELIC LIST A gun is a gun. Even an old gun can kill people. This a loop hole in the federal law which was allowed thousands of dangerous weapons to be distributed unchecked. This regulation, if enacted, would automatically eliminate the need for a Curio or Relic collector's license. All handguns, rifles and shotguns would fall into the same category as their modern counterparts. 15. CONTROL OF AMMUNITION BELONGING TO CERTAIN SURPLUS FIREARMS Senator Moynihan has already proposed a tax or ban on .22 LR, .32 ACP, and 9mm ammo,however, it has been pointed out to us that there is an extreme proliferation of high powered surplus rifles (i.e.,the Mosin-Nagant series and Enfield series) in which the wholesale prices are as low as $45 to $75. We suggest that to control the proliferation of violence associated with the large number of these types of weapons entering this country that we ban the importation of their ammunition. 7.62x54R and .303 surplus ammunition. 16. EVENTUAL BAN OF HANDGUN POSSESSION This may be closer to reality than many of us think. Handguns are becoming increasingly unpopular and we think that within five years we can enact a total ban on possession at the federal level. 17. BANNING OF ANY AMMO THAT FITS MILITARY GUNS (POST 1945) With the proliferation of high powered weapons, including semiautomatics and automatics from World War II, we suggest following the lead of Mexico, by prohibiting the sale, manufacture, possession or transfer of any caliber fitting a military firearm in service with a recognized military force after 1945. AMMUNITION AND EXPLOSIVES: 18. BANNING OF ANY QUANTITY OFSMOK ELESS POWDER OR BLACK POWDER WHICH WOULD CONSTITUTE MORE THAN THE EQUIVALENT OF 100 ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION With the bombing of the World Trade Center, it has been made clear that we must reinforce the above proposed regulation with this additional notation. It is arguable that no one has any real need to have so much dangerous material on hand. 19. BAN ON THE POSSESSION OF EXPLOSIVE POWDERS OF MORE THAN 1 KILOGRAM AT ANY ONE TIME Gun nuts are notorious for circumventing the intent of the law, so we can reinforce the above proposed regulation with this additional notation. This additional language can be useful in preventing "bomb-makers" and other dangerous individuals. 20. BANNING OF HIGH POWERED AMMO OR WOUNDING AMMO In addition to the banning of military calibers, there is a plethora of dangerous rounds which are too high powered for sporting use. This includes the highest calibers of pistol and rifle ammunition (of note are the monster calibers for rifles and pistols, like the .50 caliber Desert Eagle Bullet). We should not forget the lessons learned with the insidious Black Talon Ammo. Hollow points, Glaser killing rounds and other types of ammunition designed specifically for maiming should be prohibited. 21. A NATIONAL LICENSE FOR AMMUNITION This is an idea whose time has come. We should look at a Federal License for purchasing of ammunition of all kinds. A special form should be forwarded to a new federal office to track those who are purchasing too much ammunition. Remember that a gun is useless without ammunition. 22. BANNING OR STRICT LICENSING OF ALL RELOADING COMPONENTS Ammunition regulation laws can be regularly bypassed by home loaders, creating an underground cottage industry of ammo manufacture. Possession or purchase of reloading equipment and machines should be restricted and those who wish to use specially loaded ammunition can go to a federally licensed reloader. 23. NATIONAL REGISTRATION OF AMMUNITION OR AMMO BUYERS Fees collected from the national licenses should go toward a nationwide database of ammo buyers with a possible background check to eliminate the purchase of dangerous ammo by felons or mental patients. 24. REQUIREMENT OF SPECIAL STORAGE SAFE FOR AMMUNITION AND LICENSING Like the storage safe for guns, there should be a national requirement for special safes to store ammo. These safes should be tamperproof and fireproof and be registered themselves so that on the spot inspections can be held. Again, the costs for these inspections can be absorbed by the license fees. GUN RANGES: 25. RESTRICTING GUN RANGES TO COUNTIES WITH POPULATIONS LESS THAN 200,000 The obvious threat to public safety of shooting ranges and stray bullets has been lost on many states and counties. We can initiate a federal mandate or incentives to get states to prohibit any kind of shooting range within a county with a population of more than 200,000. 26. SPECIAL LICENSING OF RANGES Those ranges which conform to the previous requirement should get special licensing above and beyond that which is required now. Additionally each existing or new shooting range must get in writing the permission of all property owners within a radius of seven miles. 27. SPECIAL RANGE TAX TO VISITORS Additional revenue can be a surtax on ranges, requiring the collection of a minimum of $85 per visit per person. This can be in addition to required membership fees, upon which the state and local governments get a sizable portion, to help defray the immense cost of gun violence. 28. WAITING PERIOD FOR RENTALS ON PISTOL RANGES It has been suggested in the past that felons can acquire pistols and other automatic weapons without a background check by renting a gun on a target range. Deranged individuals are basically being given a license to practice hunting humans at these so called "sporting ranges." We think that a national waiting period for gun rentals is yet another idea whose time has come. ACTIVITIES WHICH PROMOTE GUN VIOLENCE: 29. BANNING GUN SHOWS Illegal transfers and the sales of assault weapons and submachine guns is a common event at these so called gun shows. A huge dent can be made in the illegal trafficking of weapons by banning these shows altogether. 30. BANNING OF MILITARY RE-ENACTMENTS The questionable "historical" value of these events has escaped the public scrutiny for too long. Many of these so called historical events are mere excuses for gun nuts to blast the countryside with automatic weapons. What is to keep them from loading live bullets and having those stray bullets kill innocent children? What lives in the future will be lost due to this paramilitary training going on right under our noses? We propose the prohibition of survivalist/paramilitary, World War I and World War II and Civil War Re-enactments on federal land, and hope to encourage the states to prohibit them from state and county lands as well. 31. MAKING UNLAWFUL THE ASSEMBLY OF MORE THAN FOUR ARMED INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE NOT PEACE OFFICERS OR MILITARY Since most hunting parties consist of four, we recognize the need to eliminate the currently legal assembly of shooters for paramilitary training on private lands. This is just one good suggestion for our elimination of the "gun culture" from the mainstream. 32. BEGIN TO CURB HUNTING ON ALL PUBLIC LANDS Blood sports are an anathema to a civilized society, however, it has been a political reality that the hunters and their ilk have too strong of a stranglehold on Congress. We feel that the impending defeat of high tech assault "killing machines" will open the door to restrictions. With the diminishing number of hunters, we feel that perhaps in five years we can open up much more of our country to campers and hikers, andeliminate the threat to families and camping, by looking at much more restrictions as to what parcels of land will allow hunting. This will not infringe on sportsmens' rights to hunt on private land. 33. MAKING GUN OWNERS RECORDS AND PHOTOS MATTER OF PUBLIC RECORD We would have to assemble a legal team in order to investigate the balance of the right to privacy and the right to safeguard public. We fully endorse the photographing and fingerprinting of all gun owners, however, the records are usually relegated to law enforcement only. We think that it would be a good idea to make these records public, so that the communities can have the knowledge of who poses a danger to their community before disaster strikes. we realize that this proposal would probably be controversial, thus a long public affairs campaign would have to be initiated in order to build public support and ease the transition of such an idea. We feel that this idea has merit, and can be justified via the past publication of the names of water wasters during the drought, customers for prostitution, and deadbeat parents who are delinquent on child support. 34. RANDOM POLICE CHECKS FOR WEAPONS (LIKE SOBRIETY CHECKPOINTS) This idea was floated before in California in 1989, where some thought it would be a great deterrent to gang-related crimes for police to do sweeps for gang weapons. Right now this idea may have some resistance; however, the political climate can become right to initiate these random vehicle stop and checks at all levels and in all types of neighborhoods. If we continue to mainstream the pressure we can make this a reality. THE NEXT FIFTEEN YEARS: With all that is going on, who knows what is possible in the next few years? With murders in the streets, the public fed up, and the once mighty thugs of the Gun Lobby whimpering in impotence we have an opportunity to change the face of America for the better! Previously we thought that it would take at least a century to eliminate dangerous weapons and guns from the public hands, but now with allies in the White House and Congress, we can accelerate this trend, and make the barbaric NRA extinct!!! Here are some ideas to consider for the long term: BANNING OF MILITARY ACCOUTREMENTS Essential to the Neanderthal gun culture are the typical military clothing, camouflage, pouches, boots and other combat gear. They euphemistically refer to this as "militaria." Elimination of the future sale of these items will cripple the culture of violence well into the 21st century. STRICTER GUIDELINES FOR VIOLENCE IN TELEVISION AND THE MOVIES We should look at the possibility of victims of violence by copying an act on television and the movie or video screen, suing the makers of such shows for compensation to their suffering. If the industry cannot regulate itself, we may have to eventually look at an independent branch of government to determine which scenes cause more harm than good to the public and regulate the numbers of violent acts portrayed. THE TOTAL ELIMINATION OF ARMS FROM SOCIETY We cannot survive into the 21st century unless we remember the need to expand our wave to new thinking to the total disarmament of America. With much of the public we can become more like Great Britain, where we can also eliminate the need for much of our police to be armed. This would take a long time; however, a concerted public relations campaign can pressure local law enforcement to give up their arms, when the time comes. Weapons would be available to special units like SWAT or the military. CONTROL OF DANGEROUS LITERATURE (BOMB MAKING,MACHINE GUN CONVERSIONS, ETC.) Too much irresponsible material is purportedly covered by the First Amendment, however, the time will come when our nation has to agree that some literature does not belong in a safe society, like instruction manuals on how to kill, or how to make homemade explosives or nuclear bombs. We must realize that there can be such a thing as too much freedom where such literature poses a serious threat to the public safety. 1994 SOUNDS THE DEATH KNELL FOR THE BULLY TACTICS OF THE NRA AND THE CULTURE OF VIOLENCE IN AMERICA!! We are pressing on all fronts and much of this can become reality sooner than we expect. With the loss of power and clout of the NRA and their various smaller crony organizations crumbling to dust, we eliminate a 200-year-old license to murder into history, and enter the 21st century a safer place for our children and children's children. Attachment 1: (Confidential Information for use by Lobbyists or Senior Officers ONLY!) I. Proposed License Fees - 1994-1995 Gun Control Proposals These listings and the documentation used to calculate these suggested fee schedules will be made available to federal law enforcement authorities and U.S. Department of the Treasury for review, when the time is right. Additional material will be made available to key politicians when proposing any fee-related legislation. These suggestions will be instrumental in determining thenature of future gun control legislation and proposals. A) Handgun License Fees: Year 1 to 2: $50-$75 annually. Year 3 to 4: $150-$250 annually. Year 5 to 8: $550-$625 annually. B) Penalties for non-compliance: (a) Failure to acquire license -- $1,000/6 months jail, revocation of ability to own (b) Failure to maintain license -- $5,000/12 months jail, revocation of ability to own (c) Failure to turn over guns for destruction after lapse of license --$15,000/18 months jail, revocation of ability to own. Failure to renew license or notify issuing authority of change of status would be considered a felony. All firearms owned would be then considered contraband, and confiscated. State or local authorities would be prohibited from retaining or re-selling any confiscated firearms. Record of destruction to be issued to federal government not later than 60 days after confiscation. C) Rifle-Shotgun License: Program begins at $30 or at cost to maintain federal records on ownership and registration. Fee: $30-$148 annually. D) State Licensing: The Department of Justice for each state will initiate programs at state level, with fees equivalent to federal. Fee: $74-$150 annually. E) Local Licensing: The cost of annual license to reflect the cost of records-maintenance and enforcement. Fee: $48-$113 annually. F) Arsenal License: (20 guns or 1,000 rounds ammo). Fee: $300-$1,000 annually. G) Penalty for Non-Compliance of Arsenal Licensing Law: $5,000/8 months jail, confiscation of all firearms-related property, revocation of ability to own firearms. (Disposition to be determined by Department of Justice and the state/federal legislatures.) H) Safe License: Fee: $228-$392 annually (based on calculations of set up of computerized records system, enforcement, registration processing). I) Ammunition Registration & License: Fee: $55-$117 for license to buy ammunition (based on calculations of set up of computerized records-keeping system, enforcement and registration processing). J) Federal license for Re-Loading (or possession of re-loading equipment) . Fee: $130-$175 annually. K) Ammunition Safe License. Fee: $55-$75 annually. L) Range License (new federal license on target, outdoor/indoor ranges). Fee: $12,100-$15,500 annually. M) Range Tax (imposed on Federally licensed gun ranges). Fee: $85-$100 per person, per visit. N) Inspection License: (verifying records of guns and storage) To defray cost of inspection and firearms safes in business or private homes. Fee: $588-$678 annually. II. Suggestions To Be Made Immediately Available to Key Politicians And Secretary of U.S. Treasury A) Increase Dealers License (Federal Firearms License 01 and 02) to $600-$750 annually. B) Increase Title 1 Manufacturing License to $6,200-$9,400 annually. C) Increase Title 2 Manufacturing License to $13,405-$18,210 annually. III. Estimate Of Fiscal Impact Of Licensing On Firearms Ownership Worst Case Best Case Federal Handgun License: $50 $625 Fed. Rifle & Shotgun License: $30 $148 Local Gun License Fee: $48 $113 State Gun License Fee: $74 $150 Arsenal License Fee: $300 $1,000 Safe License Fee: $228 $392 Ammunition License Fee: $55 $117 Re-Loading License Fee: $130 $175 Ammo Safe License Fee: $55 $75 Ammo Inspection Fee: $588 $678 Total Annual Cost: $1,558 $3,473 This cost is not unreasonable, since it would offset considerably the estimated $60 billion dollars in medical and social costs related to gun violence. IV. Reduction Of Gun Owner Population And Potential Yearly Revenue The federal government estimates 65-75 million Americans own guns. These fees and the licensing requirements would allow us to take guns out of the hands of an estimate 30 million unsuitable or ineligible individuals. Fees for the remaining would reduce the number to about 14 million. Estimated revenue would constitute a minimum of $21.8 trillion dollars (worst case) to an estimated $48.6 trillion (best case) annually. Our eventual goal is to reduce the number of licensees to zero. The revenue itself can be utilized to achieve this goal. V. Possible Uses for the Revenue (A) Institute mandatory national, comprehensive educational campaign in schools (K-12) to deglamorize guns and gun ownership and tell the truth about the Second Amendment. (B) A well-funded, concerted campaign to eliminate the Second Amendment via constitutional amendment. (C) Provide revenue source for enforcement of new laws. (D) Provide offsetting monetary fund for medical and legal services to victims of gun violence. (E) Establish nationwide system of toll-free numbers for reporting violators of new gun restrictions and non-licensees, a sum set aside for cash rewards for tips resulting in conviction. Additional Revenue sources listed: Range Licenses: $12,100 annually. Range Tax: $85 per person, per visit. Gun Dealer License: $600 annually. Title 1 gun Mfg License: $6,000 annually. Title 2 Gun Mfg License: $13,400 annually. Revenue calculations concerning the above fees will depend on how the numbers of gun ranges, gun range visitors, gun dealers and gun manufacturers are affected by increased fees. It is not unreasonable to predict a 40% drop by the end of the first year, another 35% drop by the year after that. VI. Legal action and possible new revenue sources Pending issues to be given at the appropriate time to the LCAV office for investigation as to feasibility, implementation and public reaction. At no time should these suggestions be made public before we can ascertain the current public reaction and provide the results of these studies to the LCAV attorneys. These are some ideas which are ahead of their time and would only be feasible through a concerted P.R. campaign over time. A P.R. campaign includes press releases, press conferences, direct lobbying and constant pressure via the national media. We must change the way America thinks in regard to guns and gun owners in order to achieve a safe society for our children in the upcoming century. We realize that one cannot implement every good idea overnight, however, the following proposals have been forwarded for investigation as to possible enaction within the next few years. A continued P.R. campaign with the general public as well as the legal and judicial community, will enable us to finally get ground-breaking rulings which can change the violent face of the American landscape for years to come. Legal Point 1: Making possible the suing of owners of guns, as a group, for monetary compensation for victims of gun violence: Once gun owners in America have been identified through a verifiable source, i.e., the pending national computer registry, it would be possible to seek further compensation for victims of gun violence through legal means. As a group, gun nuts would constitute an identifiable entity for class-action suits and other legal actions for compensation to victims of gun violence. Legal Point 2: Suing Gun Organizations under the RICO (Racketeer Influenced, Corrupt Organization) statute: It would be expected that gun groups and lobbying groups such as the NRA would encourage non-compliance. Thus nationally recognized groups will be technically "organizing to break the law." Once this can be proven, these groups will be vulnerable to lawsuits based on the RICO statute and drained of the financial resources through repeated legal action. Legal Point 3: Suing the makers of toy-replica guns, toy weapons and violent entertainment: One of the purveyors of violence to society, companies which profit from violence would eventually be identified and made legally responsible for the violent acts inspired by their products. A study would have to be created to link these companies to those actions taken as a result of their products. Threat of legal action would convince many manufacturers and distributors that other nonviolence-related recreational materials and toys, would make them fiscally accountable for the cost to society incurred as a result of their merchandise. Items could include: violent video games, television shows, movies, videotapes, water guns, super soakers, electronic noise guns, replica guns, toy weapons like swords, batons, martial arts items. Tort law as we know it may not have to undergo a change in order to facilitate these actions. As many people know, it is not necessary to actually win in order to affect change, since the constant threat of legal action will induce change in the way people do business. People all know that the real fiscal effect of repeated legal actions can bankrupt a peddler of violence just as well as winning a large settlement. Any additional ideas or proposals should be directed to our Washington D.C. office for collation, investigation and discussion. Brady II: The Objectives of the Gun Control Lobby: In the early fall of 1994, the gun control movement achieved unprecedented success in Congress. The "Brady Bill" had been enacted in November 1993, and went into effect in February 1994. After a very tough political fight, President Clinton's omnibus crime bill was passed in August 1994. The bill included a 10-year ban on so-called "assault weapons," as well as other gun controls. Handgun Control, Inc. (which later changed its name to "The Brady Campaign" promptly began to push for legislation which it called "Brady II." Although the bill was introduced, it did not receive a hearing in the final weeks of Congress before the election. The November 1994 elections resulted in a Republican landslide; in a December 1994 interview with the Cleveland Plain-Dealer, President Clinton stated that the NRA was the reason that the Republicans had won control of Congress. Nevertheless, Brady II is worth remembering as a roadmap for the gun control lobby's hopes for "the next step" in federal gun control. Due to the results of the 1994 and subsequent elections, HCI/BC has not been so bold in its declared legislative agenda. It would be interesting to know which, if any, items from the Brady II bill are rejected today by the Brady Campaign or the political candidates which it has endorsed. Arsenal licensing Any person who owns 20 or more firearms or more than 1,000 rounds of ammunition or primers (e.g. two "bricks" of rimfire ammo) would be required to get an "arsenal" license. To obtain a federal arsenal license, a person would need to be fingerprinted, obtain permission of local zoning authorities, and pay a $300 tax every three years. Her home would be subjected to unannounced, warrantless inspection by the government up to three times a year. "Arsenal" owners would also have to obtain a $100,000 dollar insurance policy. "Brady II" redefines "firearm" to include magazines and "any part of the action" (such as pins, springs, or screws). Thus, if a person has two Colt pistols, three Remington rifles, and four magazines (of any size) for each gun, then he own an "arsenal." Or if he owned two guns, six magazines, and a box of disassembled gun parts that contained five springs, five pins, and five screws, then he would own 23 "firearms" and would have to obtain an "arsenal" license. Licensing Every handgun buyer would be required to obtain a state handgun license. The license would be good for no more than two years. No-one could obtain a license without passing a state-controlled "safety" course. The fees for the license and the safety course would have no limits. The fees could be set far in excess of the state cost of providing the license and the course; instead, the fees could a source of general revenue. Nothing would prevent licensing authorities from taking months or years to issue a license. And nothing would prevent the authorities from making the "safety" test so rigorous that almost no-one except an expert shooter could pass. That an applicant had been shooting handguns for 50 years, or was an NRA certified safety instructor, or a proficient competitive target shooter would not exempt him from the requirement to pay for the government "safety" class. Every handgun transfer (including one's adult son an old revolver) would be subject to these restrictions. In addition, every handgun transferred would have to be registered by make and serial number. The late Pete Shields, the chair of HCI, in a 1976 interview, explained his strategy for using registration as a way-station to handgun confiscation: "The first problem is to slow down the number of handguns being produced and sold in this country. The second problem is to get handguns registered. The final problem is to make possession of all handguns and all handgun ammunition--expect for the police, licensed security guards, licensed sporting clubs, and licensed gun collectors--totally illegal." (Richard Harris, "A Reporter at Large: Handguns," New Yorker, July 26, 1976, p. 58). The Brady Campaign currently denies that it wants to confiscate handguns. But, to the extent that the promise is sincere, is it more likely to be kept than the group's earlier (and broken) promise "our organization, Handgun Control, Inc. does not propose further controls on rifles and shotguns. Rifles and shotguns are not the problem; they are not concealable." (Pete Shields, Guns Don't Die--People Do, Priam Press, 1981, pp. 47-48). Taxes Currently, the price of guns and ammunition is increased by an 11% federal excise tax, revenues from which go to improve hunting habitat and to fund the development of target ranges. Brady II would increase the taxes to 30% on handguns, and 50% on ammunition. So a $500 pistol would cost $650, and a $20 box of ammunition would cost $30. The tax revenues, instead of being spent on the shooting sports, would be spent on health care. Persons Barred from Gun Ownership The list of persons banned by federallaw from owning any gun would be expanded. A person who got into a bar fight 20 years ago, and pleaded guilty to misdemeanor third-degree assault, would be barred (ex post facto) for the rest of his life from owning any gun. (And subject to a mandatory five years in federal prison for a violation.) Any other crime, no matter, how petty, that involved the use or threatened use of force would likewise become a lifetime prohibition. Possession of handguns or handgun ammunition by a person under the age of 21, or possession of any guns or ammunition by a person under the age of 16, would be illegal. Leetting one's 15 year old nephew borrow a single-shot .22 rifle to go target-shooting on one's own farm would be a federal crime. Gun possession under immediate adult supervsion would still be allowed. Gun and Magazine Bans All magazines which hold more than 6 rounds would be outlawed. Possession of existing magazines with a larger capacity would be allowed under the same terms as currently applicable to possession of machine guns: a 10-point FBI fingerprint; an expensive federal tax; and possession only allowed if a letter of authorization from the local police chief is obtained. "Saturday Night Specials" would be outlawed. They would be defined as: 1. A handgun with any parts made of zinc alloy. 2. Any handgun that uses .22 short ammunition. Many guns that use .22 long rifle can also use .22 short, and would thus be banned. 3. Any revolver with a barrel less than 3 inches. 4. Any semi-automatic pistol with combined height and length of less than 10 inches. 5. Any seme-automatic pistol without a "positive manually operated safety device." Other Provisions It would become a federal crime to buy more than one handgun a month. A permanent 7-day waiting period would be imposed on all handgun transfers (including gifts between family members). All firearms would have to be "properly stored" is prevent access by anyone under the age of 16. Gun shows would be destroyed, since licensed firearms dealers would not be allowed to sell guns at the show. If "Brady II" had become law, what would have been the key to "Brady III" or "Brady IV"? Mrs. Brady has already told us. She wants a "needs-based licensing" system, under which no one could own any gun unless the local police chief decided that the person "needed" to have the gun. (Erik Eckhom, "A Little Gun Control, a Lot of Guns," New York Times, Aug. 15, 1993, p. B1). Ownership of a gun for protection would not be considered a legitimate "need." Says Mrs. Brady "To me, the only reason for guns in civilian hands is for sporting purposes." (Tom Jackson, "Keeping the Battle Alive," Tampa Tribune, Oct. 21, 1993.)

Summary:

Part of the plan is to make owning a gun too expensive for most people to do, just like they did with machine guns in 1934. They want to REQUIRE you to own a safe and they want to tax you YEARLY for owning that gun safe.

The total cost of their permit to own a gun, permit to own a safe, permit to own ammo, special permit to reload your own ammunition (and you're limited to having enough supplies to load 100 cartridges. Total.), special permit to own more than 1,000 rounds of ammo, etc. is going to cost you, at a minimum, $1,558 a year. That's the low end of what they want to charge you. They plan to eventually ramp it up to $3,473 a year just for the privilege of owning guns and ammunition. That's what you have to pay EVERY YEAR to own a longarm, a handgun, and some ammo.

Oh yeah, and they get to inspect you for compliance whenever they want. And you have to pay a fee for the pleasure of being inspected.

They're imposing a fee for visiting a gun range. The range does not get this money, the federal government does. They want you to pay $85-100 per person, per visit. By now you should see the obvious plan is to make it fucking impossible to own a gun and fire it.

Random checkpoints to inspect your car for guns. Oh yeah, no CCW by the way.

Reenactments, specifically Civil War, WWI, and WWII reenactments, are banned. Apparently reeenactors are engaged in an activity that serves no historical purpose and is actually a means of training an anti-government paramilitary organization.

Military surplus is banned. No camo, no shelter halves, no canteens, no helmets, no combat boots, etc. You're not allowed to own ANYTHING related to the military unless you were in the military. Arfcommers who accuse everyone who owns or wears mil-surp of being "posers" rejoice.

The ban of books, manuals, pdf's, etc. that involve survival, gunsmithing, explosives, or were ever published for military use. Kiss your gunsmithing books, Army Survival Guide, and anything by Ragnar Benson goodbye.

Gun owners will be registered, fingerprinted, and photographed. The names, addresses, and photos of gun owners will be made PUBLIC. Just like those assholes who take lists of everyone in town with a CCW and publish them in the newspaper every year, except it's EVERYONE who owns a gun.

Ban hunting on public land.

Ban gatherings of more than four people with guns. No hunting trips with more than four people (sorry Fred, you gotta stay home.), no trips to the gun show with five or more buddies, and God help you if more than four members of your household own guns.

Ban gun shows. Like you didn't see that one coming.

Waiting period on rental guns at ranges. Yes, that's right. They don't just want to charge you a hundred bucks every time you go to the range, if you want to rent a gun you have to WAIT THREE FUCKING DAYS before you get to shoot it.

Ban gun ranges in counties with a population over 200,000. Yeeeaaaah. So, that leaves us, what, five ranges per state?

Ban all bullet types except FMJ and solid lead.

Ban all calibers in use with any military since 1945. Which, you know, bans pretty much every caliber EVER used by a military.

Ban all handguns. Forever.

Eliminate C&R licenses and guns.

Ban all parts kits.

Ban all semi-auto guns.

Special "arsenal" license to own more than five guns or 250 rounds of ammo. License must be renewed (at full price) annually. License will not be granted to anyone living in a county with a population over 200,000 (meaning if you live in a city or a large county, you can't own six guns or 251 rounds of ammo.).

Geez. Just the summary is fucking huge.

You see now why it's important that we retain the initiative and keep sticking it to these bastards? These fuckers are STILL pushing to get this shit enacted. We can't let them win. We HAVE to take our rights back!

If they want my guns they can have them, Never liked them much to start with.



now where can i get my free gift card once i turn them in?

Somehow, I don't think Heller and ~40 states with shall-issue CCW was in their plans.

I think Heller head shot most of their crap, but we can NEVER let our guard down.

NEVER.

There was enough wiggle room in Heller to allow assorted nastiness.  Obama can NOT be allowed into the White House.

Holy shit.

And FWIW the Fudds would be perfectly fine with this.

Fucking pinko's

..but we knew that..

ugh, reading that made me literally sick to my stomach

Quoted: I think Heller head shot most of their crap, but we can NEVER let our guard down. NEVER. There was enough wiggle room in Heller to allow assorted nastiness.  Obama can NOT be allowed into the White House.

Yeah. But still--we are winning.

Holy cow pies...

Quoted: Holy shit. And FWIW the Fudds would be perfectly fine with this.

Well, except for the "ban hunting on public land" part.

Wow.


These people piss me off.  That's all I'm going to say.

Incidentally, the following calibers would be banned if this plan were followed through:



.32ACP
.380ACP
9mm Makarov
9x19mm
.45ACP
7.63 Mauser
7.62 Tokarev
.30-06
.308
.303 British
7.5 Swiss
7.62x54R
7.62x39mm
5.45x39mm
.223
.300 Win Mag
.338 Lapua
.50 BMG
.22lr
9x39mm
.38 Special
.38 Smith & Wesson

And quite a few others. Those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head in use with a military since 1945. And God help us if they decide to include calibers used by POLICE departments too. Then kiss .40 S&W, 10mm, .357 Sig, .45GAP, etc. goodbye too.

Oh, and I forgot to include that they want to ban all NFA weapons too.

Is this actually legit?

Essential to the Neanderthal gun culture are the typical military clothing, camouflage, pouches, boots and other combat gear. They euphemistically refer to this as "militaria." Elimination of the future sale of these items will cripple the culture of violence well into the 21st century.

The above quote is the single most horrifying thing I have read in recent memory.

It illustrates their perception of normal, everyday people who happen to own a gun.

You see, they don't fear the violent, inner-city gangsters and thugs. They aren't trying to make the cities safer by eliminating gang violence. They simply want to disarm people they disagree with, because they fear us. It is a gripping, consuming, pervasive fear. They feel like they can't really breathe knowing that if they really behaved like they wanted to (decadent, hedonistic, self-absorbed, rude, selfish) they might just piss off someone enough to want to kill them. And they don't want to make that easy.

Tell me, what in all creation do they want to be able to do (as individuals) that requires ordinary people to be defenseless? What actions do they have in mind when they imagine an angry gun owner shooting them?

I believe the reason they want us all disarmed is so that they can "safely" say and do things that would make a reasonable person want to shoot someone. I can't come up with any other explanation.

Quoted: Is this actually legit?

Yes.  You young-uns sometimes just need to listen to older folks.  This was referred to as "Brady II" back in 1994-95.  A few things they left off the list were bans on all sales of military surplus to civilians (they didn't want civilians to own fatigues, camo, ammo cans, etc.).  

Quoted: ugh, reading that made me literally sick to my stomach

I had to quit about 1/4 of the way in.  I started seeing stars like when you stand up too quickly...or you head is about to explode.

Reading that was what I would call a High Spittle Event.



Ever vigilant!  Yield not a single centimeter.  Introduce 10 new people to shooting.  Teach boys and girls gun safety.  Open carry (if legal in your state) to fight the belief that man with gun can only be a criminal or the police.

Quoted: ugh, reading that made me literally sick to my stomach

yea we should ban them

After that nutjob went on his murder spree on the long-island railroad the anti's picked up a lot of momentum to register owners an ban firearms. That was some scary shit. It wasn't just about banning weapons but about changing the perception of the public about self-defense and the military.

Quoted: Essential to the Neanderthal gun culture are the typical military clothing, camouflage, pouches, boots and other combat gear. They euphemistically refer to this as "militaria." Elimination of the future sale of these items will cripple the culture of violence well into the 21st century. The above quote is the single most horrifying thing I have read in recent memory. It illustrates their perception of normal, everyday people who happen to own a gun. You see, they don't fear the violent, inner-city gangsters and thugs. They aren't trying to make the cities safer by eliminating gang violence. They simply want to disarm people they disagree with, because they fear us. It is a gripping, consuming, pervasive fear. They feel like they can't really breathe knowing that if they really behaved like they wanted to (decadent, hedonistic, self-absorbed, rude, selfish) they might just piss off someone enough to want to kill them. And they don't want to make that easy. Tell me, what in all creation do they want to be able to do (as individuals) that requires ordinary people to be defenseless? What actions do they have in mind when they imagine an angry gun owner shooting them? I believe the reason they want us all disarmed is so that they can "safely" say and do things that would make a reasonable person want to shoot someone. I can't come up with any other explanation.

"Yes, I'm denying you your rights."

-L.A. Mayor Tom Bradley, questioned about constitutional rights at a "Save the Brady Bill" rally. Steve Comus Western Outdoor News, September 4, 1992



"For target shooting, that's okay. Get a license and go to the range. For defense of the home, that's why we have police departments."

-James Brady, Parade Magazine, June 26, 1994

"The House passage of our bill is a victory for this country! Common sense wins out. I'm just so thrilled and excited. The sale of guns must stop. Halfway measures are not enough."

-Sarah Brady, July 1, 1988

"They are looking only to protect gun owners' quote — and I stress that — rights, because I don't believe gun owners have rights. The Second Amendment has never been interpreted that way.

-Sarah Brady, October 1997

"We must be able to arrest people before they commit crimes. By registering guns and knowing who has them we can do that... If they have guns they are pretty likely to commit a crime."

-Vermont State Senator Mary Ann Carlson

"We must stop thinking of the individual and start thinking about what is best for society."

-Hillary Clinton, 1993

"If you know of any guns in your house or in the houses of your uncles, cousins, friends or neighbors, I want you to promise you will never, ever go near them. I want you to promise you will never, ever play with anybody who goes near them, and I want you to promise you will never, ever pick up a gun with any idea of using it against another person."

-First Lady Hillary Clinton, at Valley Cottage Elementary School, March 3, 2000

"When we got organized as a country and we wrote a fairly radical Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of individual freedom to Americans... And so a lot of people say there's too much personal freedom. When personal freedom's being abused, you have to move to limit it. That's what we did in the announcement I made last weekend on the public housing projects, about how we're going to have weapon sweeps and more things like that to try to make people safer in their communities."

-President Bill Clinton, MTV's "Enough is Enough," April 19, 1994


"We can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans."

-President Bill Clinton, March 1, 1993, during a press conference in Piscataway , NJ. USA TODAY, March 11, 1993


"The purpose of government is to rein in the rights of the people"

-President Bill Clinton, MTV interview, 1993


"You know the one thing that's wrong with this country? Everyone gets a chance to have their fair say."

-President Bill Clinton, May 28, 1993 speech in the city hall courtyard, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania


"You can't say you love your country and hate your government."

-President Bill Clinton, 1995, commenting on the Oklahoma City bombing


"And we should — then every community in the country could then start doing major weapon sweeps and then destroying the weapons, not selling them."

-President Bill Clinton


"You don't need an Uzi to go deer hunting, and you don't need an AK-47 to shoot skeet. They are military weapons, not meant for a day in the country and certainly not meant for a night on the street."

-President Bill Clinton, April 6, 1998


"If the personal freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution inhibit the government's ability to govern the people, we should look to limit those guarantees."

-President Bill Clinton, August 12, 1993


"I feel very strongly about it [the Brady Bill]. I think — I also associate myself with the other remarks of the Attorney General. I think it's the beginning. It's not the end of the process by any means."

-President Bill Clinton, on the Brady Bill, August 11, 1993

"Guns have a place in the theater of war, they have no place out on the streets."

-California Gov. Gray Davis July 20, 1999

"You know I don't believe in people owning guns, only the police and military. And I'm going to do everything I can to disarm this state."

- Michael Dukakis, then governor of Massachusetts, in conversation with Mike Yacino, MA Gun Owner's Action League, and Roy Innis, CORE, June 16, 1986

"If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them... "Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em all in," I would have done it. I could not do that. The votes weren't here."

-U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein, CBS-TV's "60 Minutes," February 5, 1995, speaking about her authorship of the 1994 "assault weapons" ban

The American people must be willing to give up a degree of personal privacy in exchange for safety and security."

-Louis Freeh, Director of the FBI, 1993

"There is no reason for anyone in this country, for anyone except a police officer or a military person, to buy, to own, to have, to use, a handgun. The only way to control handgun use in this country is to prohibit the guns. And the only way to do that is to change the Constitution."

-Michael Gartner, president of NBC News, January, 1992

"We don't need more concealed weapons in our malls, in our movie theaters, and our streets. We need fewer concealed weapons in our society."

-Vice President Al Gore on concealed weapons licences, Houston Chronicle, May 27, 1999

"These automatic, semiautomatic handguns and assault weapons, they really have no place in our society."

-Al Gore, Larry King Live, September 17, 1999


"I think that we should ban so-called junk guns. I think we should ban assault weapons like the weapons used here [in Fort Worth], yes. I think that the kinds of weapons that have no legitimate use for hunting or the kind of weapon that a homeowner would use, I think they should be banned, yes, those kind of weapons."

-Al Gore, Larry King Live, September 17, 1999, on the 1999 Fort Worth shooting. The "assault weapons" being referred to are semi-automatic handguns.

The gun-violence problem is more than the problem of guns in the hands of bad people. Its also a problem of guns in the hands of good people."

-Dennis Henigan, Gun control attorney, quoted in a New York articale by Peter J. Boyer. Houston Chronicle, May 24, 1999

"No, we're not looking at how to control criminals ... we're talking about banning the AK-47 and semi-automatic guns."

-U.S. Senator Howard Metzenbaum, 1993

"I don't care about crime, I just want to get the guns."

-U.S. Senator. Howard Metzenbaum, 1994

"With a 10,000% tax we could tax them out of existence."

-U.S. Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan, Washington Post, November 4, 1993

"I honestly think — and I am not an expert on the amendments — I think the only people in this nation who should be allowed to own guns are police officers. I don't care if you want to hunt, I don't care if you think it's your right. I say, 'Sorry. It is 1999, we have had enough as a nation. You are not allowed to own a gun and if you do own a gun, I think you should go to prison.'"

-Rosie O'Donnell, April 21, 1999

"My bill ... establishes a 6-month grace period for the turning in of all handguns."

-U.S. Representative Major Owens, Congressional Record, 11/10/93


"We have to start with a ban on the manufacturing and import of handguns. From there we register the guns which are currently owned, and follow that with additional bans and acquisitions of handguns and rifles with no sporting purpose."

-U.S. Representative Owens, Democrat

"Forget what our forefathers said."

-Dominick Potifrone, ATF Special Agent (Retired) "On the Inside: The BATF", Discovery Channel, 2000

"Waiting periods are only a step. Registration is only a step. The prohibition of private firearms is the goal."

-U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno, December 1993


"Gun registration is not enough."

-U.S.Attorney General Janet Reno on "Good morning America," December 10, 1993

"If it were up to me we'd ban them all"

-U.S. Representative Mel Reynolds on CNN's Crossfire, December 9, 1993

"There may be other things that will happen later... It may not be the end... the bottom line is what we are seeking now is the Brady Bill."

-U.S. Representative Charles Schumer, interviewed on CNN Crossfire.

"I don't believe anybody has a right to own any kind of a firearm. I believe in order to obtain a permit to own a firearm, that person should undergo an exhaustive criminal background check. In addition, an applicant should give up his right to privacy and submit his medical records for review to see if the person has ever had a problem with alcohol, drugs or mental illness... The Constitution doesn't count!"

-John Silber, former chancellor of Boston University and candidate for Governor of Massachusetts. Speech before the Quequechan Club of Fall River, MA. August 16, 1990

"Assault weapons... are a new topic. The weapons' menacing looks, coupled with the public's confusion over fully-automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic assault weapons — anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to be a machine gun — can only increase the chance of public support for restrictions on these weapons."

-Josh Sugarmann, "Assault Weapons: Analysis, New Research and Legislation", March 1989

"There is nothing in the law to indicate the term 'sporting purposes' was intended to recognize every conceivable type of activity or competition which might employ a firearm."

-ATF spokesperson, 1989, on the import ban

Another rifle caliber, the 30.30 caliber, was responsible for penetrating three officers' armor and killing them in 1993, 1996, and 2002. This ammunition is also capable of puncturing light-armored vehicles, ballistic or armored glass, armored limousines, even a 600-pound safe with 600 pounds of safe armor plating.
It is outrageous and unconscionable that such ammunition continues to be sold in the United States of America. Armor-piercing ammunition for rifles and assault weapons is virtually unregulated in the United States. A Federal license is not required to sell such ammunition unless firearms are sold as well. Anyone over the age of 18 may purchase this ammunition without a background check. There is no Federal minimum age of possession. Purchases may be made over the counter, by mail order, by fax, by Internet, and there is no Federal requirement that dealers retain sales records.
--- Senator Edward Kennedy, New York (February 26, 2004, Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act, Congressional Record, (Pp. S1634-5)

"If someone is so fearful that, that they're going to start using their weapons to protect their rights, makes me very nervous that these people have these weapons at all!"
~ Rep. Henry Waxman, D-NY, 5/2001 MSNBC report on .50BMG rifles.

You called it.

It is funny that just a couple of weeks ago some deuchbag on this site posted that he was going to vote for obamination because everything we warned him about when Clinton was running never came to fruition.

I guess it was just because Clinton was such a good guy and we got it wrong.  Not that we worked our asses off at defeating the Clinton beast at every turn while said deuchbag went obliviously through life.  But we didn't stop all of the Clinton damage.  After all, the oil crisis of today and 9-11 all were because of Clinton's stupid decisions.  Can we say import ban?

Quoted: Essential to the Neanderthal gun culture are the typical military clothing, camouflage, pouches, boots and other combat gear. They euphemistically refer to this as "militaria." Elimination of the future sale of these items will cripple the culture of violence well into the 21st century. I believe the reason they want us all disarmed is so that they can "safely" say and do things that would make a reasonable person want to shoot someone. I can't come up with any other explanation.

They can't redistribute wealth on the scale that they want to until the populace is disarmed.

I 100% for-real feel sick to my stomach after reading some of that.

They ever want my guns, or want to make it that hard to keep them.   Those fuckers can come for them!   I'll make sure I aim well when they try to violate my natural rights.

Quoted: Essential to the Neanderthal gun culture are the typical military clothing, camouflage, pouches, boots and other combat gear. They euphemistically refer to this as "militaria." Elimination of the future sale of these items will cripple the culture of violence well into the 21st century. The above quote is the single most horrifying thing I have read in recent memory. It illustrates their perception of normal, everyday people who happen to own a gun. You see, they don't fear the violent, inner-city gangsters and thugs. They aren't trying to make the cities safer by eliminating gang violence. They simply want to disarm people they disagree with, because they fear us. It is a gripping, consuming, pervasive fear. They feel like they can't really breathe knowing that if they really behaved like they wanted to (decadent, hedonistic, self-absorbed, rude, selfish) they might just piss off someone enough to want to kill them. And they don't want to make that easy. Tell me, what in all creation do they want to be able to do (as individuals) that requires ordinary people to be defenseless? What actions do they have in mind when they imagine an angry gun owner shooting them? I believe the reason they want us all disarmed is so that they can "safely" say and do things that would make a reasonable person want to shoot someone. I can't come up with any other explanation.

I think they just have a perverse, irrational, all-consuming fear of guns.  And they are elitist:  they are so much smarter than us and want to "protect" us from ourselves.

Counter plan:

Thanks to the OP for this thread. Wow...just, wow...

Quoted: Thanks to the OP for this thread. Wow...just, wow...

Oh, you think that's bad? They're still trying. Here, check out the latest version of the new AWB they've been pushing. I'll include a summary at the bottom of this one too.

HR 1022 IH 110th CONGRESS 1st Session H. R. 1022 To reauthorize the assault weapons ban, and for other purposes. IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES February 13, 2007 Mrs. MCCARTHY of New York introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary A BILL To reauthorize the assault weapons ban, and for other purposes. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE. This Act may be cited as the `Assault Weapons Ban and Law Enforcement Protection Act of 2007'. SEC. 2. REINSTATEMENT FOR 10 YEARS OF REPEALED CRIMINAL PROVISIONS RELATING TO ASSAULT WEAPONS AND LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICES. (a) Reinstatement of Provisions Wholly Repealed- Paragraphs (30) and (31) of section 921(a), subsections (v) and (w) and Appendix A of section 922, and the last 2 sentences of section 923(i) of title 18, United States Code, as in effect just before the repeal made by section 110105(2) of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, are hereby enacted into law. (b) Reinstatement of Provisions Partially Repealed- Section 924 of title 18, United States Code, is amended-- (1) in subsection (a)(1), by striking subparagraph (B) and inserting the following: `(B) knowingly violates subsection (a)(4), (f), (k), (r), (v), or (w) of section 922;'; and (2) in subsection (c)(1)(B), by striking clause (i) and inserting the following: `(i) is a short-barreled rifle, short-barreled shotgun, or semiautomatic assault weapon, the person shall be sentenced to a term of imprisonment of not less than 10 years; or'. SEC. 3. DEFINITIONS. (a) In General- Section 921(a)(30) of title 18, United States Code, as added by section 2(a) of this Act, is amended to read as follows: `(30) The term `semiautomatic assault weapon' means any of the following: `(A) The following rifles or copies or duplicates thereof: `(i) AK, AKM, AKS, AK-47, AK-74, ARM, MAK90, Misr, NHM 90, NHM 91, SA 85, SA 93, VEPR; `(ii) AR-10; `(iii) AR-15, Bushmaster XM15, Armalite M15, or Olympic Arms PCR; `(iv) AR70; `(v) Calico Liberty; `(vi) Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU; `(vii) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, or FNC; `(viii) Hi-Point Carbine; `(ix) HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, or HK-PSG-1; `(x) Kel-Tec Sub Rifle; `(xi) M1 Carbine; `(xii) Saiga; `(xiii) SAR-8, SAR-4800; `(xiv) SKS with detachable magazine; `(xv) SLG 95; `(xvi) SLR 95 or 96; `(xvii) Steyr AUG; `(xviii) Sturm, Ruger Mini-14; `(xix) Tavor; `(xx) Thompson 1927, Thompson M1, or Thompson 1927 Commando; or `(xxi) Uzi, Galil and Uzi Sporter, Galil Sporter, or Galil Sniper Rifle (Galatz). `(B) The following pistols or copies or duplicates thereof: `(i) Calico M-110; `(ii) MAC-10, MAC-11, or MPA3; `(iii) Olympic Arms OA; `(iv) TEC-9, TEC-DC9, TEC-22 Scorpion, or AB-10; or `(v) Uzi. `(C) The following shotguns or copies or duplicates thereof: `(i) Armscor 30 BG; `(ii) SPAS 12 or LAW 12; `(iii) Striker 12; or `(iv) Streetsweeper. `(D) A semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine, and that has-- `(i) a folding or telescoping stock; `(ii) a threaded barrel; `(iii) a pistol grip; `(iv) a forward grip; or `(v) a barrel shroud. `(E)(i) Except as provided in clause (ii), a semiautomatic rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds. `(ii) Clause (i) shall not apply to an attached tubular device designed to accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition. `(F) A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine, and has-- `(i) a second pistol grip; `(ii) a threaded barrel; `(iii) a barrel shroud; or `(iv) the capacity to accept a detachable magazine at a location outside of the pistol grip. `(G) A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds. `(H) A semiautomatic shotgun that has-- `(i) a folding or telescoping stock; `(ii) a pistol grip; `(iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine; or `(iv) a fixed magazine capacity of more than 5 rounds. `(I) A shotgun with a revolving cylinder. `(J) A frame or receiver that is identical to, or based substantially on the frame or receiver of, a firearm described in any of subparagraphs (A) through (I) or (L). `(K) A conversion kit. `(L) A semiautomatic rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General. In making the determination, there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United States military or any Federal law enforcement agency is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, and a firearm shall not be determined to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting event.'. (b) Related Definitions- Section 921(a) of such title is amended by adding at the end the following: `(36) Barrel Shroud- The term `barrel shroud' means a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel of a firearm so that the shroud protects the user of the firearm from heat generated by the barrel, but does not include a slide that encloses the barrel, and does not include an extension of the stock along the bottom of the barrel which does not encircle or substantially encircle the barrel. `(37) Conversion Kit- The term `conversion kit' means any part or combination of parts designed and intended for use in converting a firearm into a semiautomatic assault weapon, and any combination of parts from which a semiautomatic assault weapon can be assembled if the parts are in the possession or under the control of a person. `(38) Detachable Magazine- The term `detachable magazine' means an ammunition feeding device that can readily be inserted into a firearm. `(39) Fixed Magazine- The term `fixed magazine' means an ammunition feeding device contained in, or permanently attached to, a firearm. `(40) Folding or Telescoping Stock- The term `folding or telescoping stock' means a stock that folds, telescopes, or otherwise operates to reduce the length, size, or any other dimension, or otherwise enhances the concealability, of a firearm. `(41) Forward Grip- The term `forward grip' means a grip located forward of the trigger that functions as a pistol grip. `(42) Pistol Grip- The term `pistol grip' means a grip, a thumbhole stock, or any other characteristic that can function as a grip. `(43) Threaded Barrel- The term `threaded barrel' means a feature or characteristic that is designed in such a manner to allow for the attachment of a firearm as defined in section 5845(a) of the National Firearms Act (26 U.S.C. 5845(a)).'. SEC. 4. GRANDFATHER PROVISION. Section 922(v)(2) of title 18, United States Code, as added by section 2(a) of this Act, is amended-- (1) by inserting `(A)' after `(2)'; and (2) by adding after and below the end the following: `(B) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to any firearm the possession or transfer of which would (but for this subparagraph) be unlawful by reason of this subsection, and which is otherwise lawfully possessed on the date of the enactment of this subparagraph.'. SEC. 5. REPEAL OF CERTAIN EXEMPTIONS. Section 922(v)(3) of title 18, United States Code, as added by section 2(a) of this Act, is amended by striking `(3)' and all that follows through the 1st sentence and inserting the following: `(3) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to any firearm that-- `(A) is manually operated by bolt, pump, level, or slide action; `(B) has been rendered permanently inoperable; or `(C) is an antique firearm.'. SEC. 6. REQUIRING BACKGROUND CHECKS FOR THE TRANSFER OF LAWFULLY POSSESSED SEMIAUTOMATIC ASSAULT WEAPONS. Section 922(v) of title 18, United States Code, as added by section 2(a) of this Act, is amended by adding at the end the following: `(5) It shall be unlawful for any person to transfer a semiautomatic assault weapon to which paragraph (1) does not apply, except through-- `(A) a licensed dealer, and for purposes of subsection (t) in the case of such a transfer, the weapon shall be considered to be transferred from the business inventory of the licensed dealer and the dealer shall be considered to be the transferor; or `(B) a State or local law enforcement agency if the transfer is made in accordance with the procedures provided for in subsection (t) of this section and section 923(g). `(6) The Attorney General shall establish and maintain, in a timely manner, a record of the make, model, and date of manufacture of any semiautomatic assault weapon which the Attorney General is made aware has been used in relation to a crime under Federal or State law, and the nature and circumstances of the crime involved, including the outcome of relevant criminal investigations and proceedings. The Attorney General shall annually submit the record to the Congress and make the record available to the general public.'. SEC. 7. STRENGTHENING THE BAN ON THE POSSESSION OR TRANSFER OF A LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICE. (a) Ban on Transfer of Semiautomatic Assault Weapon With Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device- (1) IN GENERAL- Section 922 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by inserting after subsection (y) the following: `(z) It shall be unlawful for any person to transfer any assault weapon with a large capacity ammunition feeding device.'. (2) PENALTIES- Section 924(a) of such title is amended by adding at the end the following: `(8) Whoever knowingly violates section 922(z) shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both.'. (b) Certification Requirement- (1) IN GENERAL- Section 922(w) of such title, as added by section 2(a) of this Act, is amended-- (A) in paragraph (3)-- (i) by adding `or' at the end of subparagraph (B); and (ii) by striking subparagraph (C) and redesignating subparagraph (D) as subparagraph (C); and (B) by striking paragraph (4) and inserting the following: `(4) It shall be unlawful for a licensed manufacturer, licensed importer, or licensed dealer who transfers a large capacity ammunition feeding device that was manufactured on or before the date of the enactment of this subsection, to fail to certify to the Attorney General before the end of the 60-day period that begins with the date of the transfer, in accordance with regulations prescribed by the Attorney General, that the device was manufactured on or before the date of the enactment of this subsection.'. (2) PENALTIES- Section 924(a) of such title, as amended by subsection (a)(2) of this section, is amended by adding at the end the following: `(9) Whoever knowingly violates section 922(w)(4) shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both.'. SEC. 8. UNLAWFUL WEAPONS TRANSFERS TO JUVENILES. Section 922(x) of title 18, United States Code, is amended-- (1) in paragraph (1)-- (A) in subparagraph (B), by striking the period and inserting a semicolon; and (B) by adding at the end the following: `(C) a semiautomatic assault weapon; or `(D) a large capacity ammunition feeding device.'; and (2) in paragraph (2)-- (A) in subparagraph (B), by striking the period and inserting a semicolon; and (B) by adding at the end the following: `(C) a semiautomatic assault weapon; or `(D) a large capacity ammunition feeding device.'. SEC. 9. BAN ON IMPORTATION OF LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICE. (a) In General- Section 922(w) of title 18, United States Code, as added by section 2(a) of this Act, is amended-- (1) in paragraph (1), by striking `(1) Except as provided in paragraph (2)' and inserting `(1)(A) Except as provided in subparagraph (B)'; (2) in paragraph (2), by striking `(2) Paragraph (1)' and inserting `(B) Subparagraph (A)'; and (3) by inserting before paragraph (3) the following: `(2) It shall be unlawful for any person to import or bring into the United States a large capacity ammunition feeding device.'. (b) Conforming Amendment- Section 921(a)(31)(A) of such title, as added by section 2(a) of this Act, is amended by striking `manufactured after the date of enactment of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994'.

Ok, some important notes:

This AWB doesn't prevent semi-autos from having features (bayonet lugs, folding stocks, flash suppressors, etc.) like the old one did. There will be no such thing as a post-ban AR or AK. This ban prevents the manufacture of ANY so-called "assault weapon". It bans all the guns specifically listed from being produced for civilians PERIOD, no matter what features you remove from them. Yes, this means that even the California-legal AR-15's are totally banned too.

It bans standard-capacity magazines, of course.

It bans any gun that is based on the design of a banned gun or uses parts from a banned gun.

It bans any rifle not specifically listed that is semi-auto and has any ONE of the following features: a pistol grip, folding stock, a forward grip, a threaded barrel, or barrel shroud.

It bans any semi-auto shotgun a detachable magazine or holds more than five rounds in the integral tube magazine, has a pistol grip, or a folding stock.

It bans any pistol that takes a magazine outside of the grip, has a barrel shroud, a threaded barrel, or a forward grip (which would be an AOW, but what the fuck do they know about NFA laws).

That's right, no threaded barrels for any semi-auto guns ever. Hey, you saved up and got a silencer? Good for you, tough shit that you can't put it on any of your semi-auto guns.

Parts kits are banned too.

Any gun that is used by a police or federal agency or is a copy of one used by a military is banned too. So if any police department ever adopts your semi-auto rifle or shotgun, even if it isn't one of the one specifically banned and doesn't have any of the features that makes it verboten, then it's banned anyway. Which gives them a nifty means of banning just about everything by having some agency officially "adopt" it and now everyone who owns one is a criminal.

Except for .22 rifles with an integral tube magazine, no semi-autos with integral magazines that hold more than ten rounds.

While it DOES grandfather all the semi-auto guns in private hands prior to the ban, it makes it illegal to sell or transfer one without going through an FFL. Wanna sell your buddy your M1 Carbine? Sorry, gotta go through an FFL first. Oh, and it's illegal for your kid to possess an "assault weapon" or a magazine for one.

Oh, and did I mention that there's no expiration date?

Heller MIGHT keep such a ban from ever being enacted... or it might not. There's enough wiggle room for them to justify a lot of evil shit. Especially if they get one or more of our judges replaced.

Heh yep remember the whole camels nose under the tent now let me show you the whole camel  Sarah Brady speech

yeah they were some smug fucks back then

Quoted: Thanks to the OP for this thread. Wow...just, wow...

+1 It's very timely given the potential to move left or right in this election. The people who were vigorously pushing that agenda are still out there.

Quoted: Counter plan:

+1

The really scary part is if any of those items were to pass into law, there would be plenty of people on here willing to comply. The law is the law. Vote if you don't like them. Until then, follow the law.

Words to live by..."from my cold, dead hands. '

Quoted: Holy shit. And FWIW the Fudds would be perfectly fine with this.

Or, at least until they could no longer get .45acp or 30-06 ammo for their deer rifle, no longer buy a new turkey gun, no longer handload, or buy the parts to "bubba" that 1944 Mauser they picked up at an now-closed gun show.  While Heller gave us a victory, the anti-gun groups will continue to push for "reasonable restrictions" that will infringe on our rights.

James

Some of Arfcom was in kindergarten when Brady was rammed down our throats.
Never forget! They have an agenda and they will not stop.
Heller will give them pause but the plan is an end-around to tax, restrict and vilify our "gun culture".
Micro stamping, arsenal licenses, ammo and magazine restrictions, etc.
None of this is reasonable!

As of today we have two potato head "white supremacists" in the pokey accused of gunning for Obongo.
If you don't think the anti's are not going to make hay out of their "sniper rifles" then you're already beyond hope.
Say goodbye to your optics and bolt action rifles.

They have been very quiet about guns lately. Too quiet.
Obongo is the biggest threat to our rights that there has ever been.
If that bastard wins we are going to see a blizzard of federal legislation backed by presidential mandate and it ain't going to be pretty.

The time to act is now.
How about we just skip the "cold dead hands" bravado for now and do something to ensure we never find ourselves in that situation.
Vote. Join the NRA or another association of your choice.
And for the love of god swallow your third party pride and cast a vote that counts for McCain.

Quoted: Snip You called it.

Thank you for the huge pile of quotes for the ASUsax Quote Database.  

Now I will go be completely unproductive filing those for the next hour.  

Tag for later!

An important point for everyone here to remember:   They had a plan, and they didn't ask for everything at once.

And most of all they certainly scream and stamp their feet and refuse to vote because the Democrat party or certain candidates refused to ban all guns RIGHT NOW!

In our political system, incrementalism is the way to get things done.

Banning high speed airguns and paint guns "which can be converted into REAL guns?"

WTF!

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Quoted: Banning high speed airguns and paint guns "which can be converted into REAL guns?" WTF!Don't try to follow their logic. There isn't any.

Quoted: It is funny that just a couple of weeks ago some deuchbag on this site posted that he was going to vote for obamination because everything we warned him about when Clinton was running never came to fruition. I guess it was just because Clinton was such a good guy and we got it wrong.  Not that we worked our asses off at defeating the Clinton beast at every turn while said deuchbag went obliviously through life.  But we didn't stop all of the Clinton damage.  After all, the oil crisis of today and 9-11 all were because of Clinton's stupid decisions.  Can we say import ban?

The first import ban was put into place by an EO signed by Bush 41 in 1989.

Don't forget, we have to watch them too.

Looks like they FAILED.

Quoted: Quoted: Snip You called it. Thank you for the huge pile of quotes for the ASUsax Quote Database.   Now I will go be completely unproductive filing those for the next hour.

There's a LOT more where those came from, including good quotes from good people, not just evil quotes from douchebags.

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Snip You called it. Thank you for the huge pile of quotes for the ASUsax Quote Database.   Now I will go be completely unproductive filing those for the next hour.   There's a LOT more where those came from, including good quotes from good people, not just evil quotes from douchebags.

Oh, I know.  I have a Spreadsheet, Filterable by Person, Genre, etc.

That's just a good source.  The problem is that I have to go through and make sure I dont' double-enter stuff.  

Until their "sniper rifles" were banned..........then you would hear howls of indignation

Quoted: Holy shit. And FWIW the Fudds would be perfectly fine with this.

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Snip You called it. Thank you for the huge pile of quotes for the ASUsax Quote Database.   Now I will go be completely unproductive filing those for the next hour.   There's a LOT more where those came from, including good quotes from good people, not just evil quotes from douchebags. Oh, I know.  I have a Spreadsheet, Filterable by Person, Genre, etc. That's just a good source.  The problem is that I have to go through and make sure I dont' double-enter stuff.

No, I meant that I have a lot more quotes where I got those from. A whole file full.

Quoted: Looks like they FAILED.

Sadly, they will never give up.


None of us will live to see the day whe we can "relax" knowing that our rights and way of life are safe from these attacks. We have to always be alert to this kind of thing.

tag

Quoted: Essential to the Neanderthal gun culture are the typical military clothing, camouflage, pouches, boots and other combat gear. They euphemistically refer to this as "militaria." Elimination of the future sale of these items will cripple the culture of violence well into the 21st century. The above quote is the single most horrifying thing I have read in recent memory. It illustrates their perception of normal, everyday people who happen to own a gun. You see, they don't fear the violent, inner-city gangsters and thugs. They aren't trying to make the cities safer by eliminating gang violence. They simply want to disarm people they disagree with, because they fear us. It is a gripping, consuming, pervasive fear. They feel like they can't really breathe knowing that if they really behaved like they wanted to (decadent, hedonistic, self-absorbed, rude, selfish) they might just piss off someone enough to want to kill them. And they don't want to make that easy. Tell me, what in all creation do they want to be able to do (as individuals) that requires ordinary people to be defenseless? What actions do they have in mind when they imagine an angry gun owner shooting them? I believe the reason they want us all disarmed is so that they can "safely" say and do things that would make a reasonable person want to shoot someone. I can't come up with any other explanation.

This is exactly the reason.  I have absolutely no doubt whatsoever.

man, they are jam packed with crazy...