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Posted: 7/21/2008 7:45:48 AM EDT
TEHRAN, Iran — Eight women and one man convicted of adultery are set to be stoned to death in Iran, activists said Sunday. Lawyer and women's rights activist, Shadi Sadr, said the nine were convicted of adultery in separate cases in different Iranian cities. "Their verdicts are approved, and they may be executed at any time," she told reporters. Sadr, who has been leading a campaign in Iran against stoning deaths since 2006, said trial protocol was not applied properly in the cases. Six of the nine were convicted based solely on judges' decisions with no witnesses or the presence of their lawyers during their confessions, she said. Most of the nine come from areas of Iran that have low rates of literacy and some did not understand the cases against them, she said. One of Sadr's colleagues, Mohammad Mostafai, said his client, Malak Qorbani, had plead guilty to adultery even though she did not know the meaning of the charge. The nine are between 27 and 50 years old, among them a male music teacher who was convicted of adultery for having an affair with one of his students, the activists said. "We are trying to stop the implementation of their verdicts. And secondly, we want to amend the country's penal law, in which death by stoning is prescribed," Sadr said. Calls to judiciary officials were not immediately returned on Sunday. Under Iran's Islamic laws, adultery in the only capital offense punishable by stoning. Other capital offenses in Iran include murder, rape, armed robbery, apostasy, blasphemy, drug trafficking, prostitution, treason and espionage. The punishment is also applied in some other countries such as Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, Sudan and Nigeria. A man is usually buried up to his waist, while a woman is buried up to her neck. Those carrying out the verdict then throw stones until the condemned dies. Stoning was widely imposed in the early years after Iran's 1979 Islamic revolution that toppled the pro-Western Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi and brought hard-line clerics to power. But in recent years, it has seldom been applied, though the government rarely confirms when it carries out stoning sentences. The last stoning death confirmed by the government was in July 2007. In the recent years, reformist legislators demanded an end to death by stoning as a punishment for adultery, but opposition from hard-line clerics sidelined their efforts. Along with adultery, other capital offenses in Iran include murder, rape, armed robbery, apostasy, blasphemy, drug trafficking, prostitution, treason and espionage. |
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hmmm, the math doesn't add up for me. |
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My guess is that the State wanted to execute the guy for some political reason, and then picked eight "whores" to execute along side him for propaganda purposes (i.e. to cover their real motives). I cannot imagine the horror women must endure to live over there. At any moment someone could accuse you of anything and then you are stoned to death without a fair trial. |
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I'm sure someone will come along shortly and tell us what a wonderful country Iran is. |
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The Iran fan-boys and paid PR men tend to avoid these threads. It doesn't fit their PR template. |
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vito |
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It isn't nearly THAT bad, but it certainly is life under despotic rule. The women in my family are pretty liberal (little "L") and they've not gotten into trouble since the revolution. |
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A friend of mine worked in the U.A.E. and witnessed a stoning. The way they did it was to tie the people on the ground to stakes at a construction site, and use a front-end loader to drop rocks on them.
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Well that's not very sporting. |
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I'm sure the Farsi was just mis-translated, and the Iranian government is really treating these 9 people to Chuck-E-Cheese.
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What happened to all those women's rights' advocates? They should be coming out of the woodworks. BUT alas it is not the USA, so they are surprising silent.
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I have no problem with this. I say good for them. That's about the only part of their laws I don't have problems with.
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I can't imagine the horror they must go through being stoned to death.
I am no supporter of adultery in any way, but this kind of punishment is just not right. |
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Any of you ever read how the Iranians stone people to death? First they bury the victim up to their neck. Then they wrap the head of the victim so they can't see the rocks coming. They let kids throw the stones first and after a while let adults throw the rocks. It takes hours for them to die.
I'd love to see every cleric in Iran suffer from stoning. |
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This is why our forefathers kept the last bullet for themselves when fighting the savages. |
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What the fuck comes to mind. |
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I'm not going to lose sleep over it till they start doing that here.
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I don't know if I could do that. Take a quick/easy way out, or take one more of the SOBs with me. I think I'll take the SOB w/ me & take my chances. |
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Wow... So I'm trying to figure-out what [screwed-up] background you come from by your statement. "Christian"? Does not compute as even Christ himself refused to stone the whore. Atheist? Why would you care if they strayed, at least to the point that you think they deserve to die for it? Did our revered Founding Fathers believe in capital punishment for adulterers? Not from any writings I've seen. So I have to add another WTF/WTH? to the pile here... |
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No kidding. How do you justify that morality? |
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I have no problem with people who DESERVE IT being stoned to death. I don't see anyone in the 9 set for execution, however, who deserve it. That's the trouble with a place like Iran. Yes, they do have criminals just like we do in the United States, and yes, they don't coddle them. ...but they don't stop at executing legitimate criminals like murderers, rapists, and child molesters. They also hang 16 year old girls for trivial offenses and stone people to death for violating their religious customs, ESPECIALLY in the more rural areas where f**kwit clerics rule with an iron fist. That's a no-go. |
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No one deserves to be stoned to death. Jesus himself was pretty clear about that, and even an agnostic like me can see the inhumanity of it. We do not punish monsters by becoming one ourself. |
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Death by torture has no place in the civilized world. |
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I smell a set-up where Obama is going to negotiate a pardon...
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well they really dont have the problem of supporting people on death row I guess........
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The thread is still "young". |
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Again; the thread is still "young". |
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Adds up just fine for me! |
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You know,that's what makes me laugh. These people,that's all the y know. you can't change the politics without changing the way people think. |
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Exactly... Third world savages with nukes. |
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Not young anymore. He was a no-show in the Iran photoshoped missile threads too. He won't touch a thread that makes his paymasters look bad. |
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That should tell us something about the ingrained culture of those running the show in Iran. And yet there are those here who would like us to believe that allowing them the capability to manufacture nuclear weapons and long range ballistic missiles poses no danger to the world in general or the United States in particular. Of course at least one of them worked for the Iranian National Oil Company during the American Embassy hostage crisis. I suppose money talks. |
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Aren't the male relatives of the girls supposed to rape them first?
Doesn't that somehow restore the "family honor"? I love the middle east. It's like a living museum of what europe must have been like 5,000 years ago. Maybe make that 10,000 years. |
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I'm confused. Does Vito work for Iran? I thought he was British military? |
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Jesus' rebuke to the crowd gathered to stone the woman caught in adultery was not a commentary on the method of execution. It was a rebuke of the pharisees who had gathered to stone her: "1 But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives. 2 Now early in the morning He came again into the temple, and all the people came to Him; and He sat down and taught them. 3 Then the scribes and Pharisees brought to Him a woman caught in adultery. And when they had set her in the midst, 4 they said to Him, “Teacher, this woman was caught in adultery, in the very act. 5 Now Moses, in the law, commanded us that such should be stoned. But what do You say?” 6 This they said, testing Him, that they might have something of which to accuse Him. But Jesus stooped down and wrote on the ground with His finger, as though He did not hear. 7 So when they continued asking Him, He raised Himself up and said to them, “He who is without sin among you, let him throw a stone at her first.” 8 And again He stooped down and wrote on the ground. 9 Then those who heard it, being convicted by their conscience, went out one by one, beginning with the oldest even to the last. And Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. 10 When Jesus had raised Himself up and saw no one but the woman, He said to her, “Woman, where are those accusers of yours? Has no one condemned you?” 11 She said, “No one, Lord.” And Jesus said to her, “Neither do I condemn you; go and sin no more.” Luke 8 The woman was merely bait that the pharisees were trying to use to trap Jesus.
There's nothing pretty about killing somebody no matter how you do it. |
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