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Posted: 6/21/2008 8:40:12 PM EDT

roguevalley  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list   Sat Jun-21-08 01:33 PM
Response to Reply #5
11. and then you punch them in the face. I think I would at that moment.

fuckers. You could also ask them about their 'service'. call them cowards.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6393825#6394284
Link Posted: 6/21/2008 8:41:30 PM EDT
[#1]
They must have forgotten who is armed...
Link Posted: 6/21/2008 8:42:46 PM EDT
[#2]
I guess violence is okay as long as they are the ones committing it.
Link Posted: 6/21/2008 8:43:21 PM EDT
[#3]
Who gives a fuck? They'll never work up the nerve to actually do anything.
Link Posted: 6/21/2008 8:43:24 PM EDT
[#4]
DUers. Violence.

Why am I thinking of the finale in BLAZING SADDLES ?
Link Posted: 6/21/2008 8:44:42 PM EDT
[#5]
Feeling bad about yourself? Go over to DU for a few minutes, you'll feel better.
Link Posted: 6/21/2008 8:46:55 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
Feeling bad about yourself? Go over to DU for a few minutes, you'll feel better.


I would except their layout makes my head want to implode.  I guess once you start reading the posts your head wants to explode so the pressure must even out a little.
Link Posted: 6/21/2008 8:46:55 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
DUers. Violence.

Why am I thinking of the finale in BLAZING SADDLES ?


Dom Delouise yelling...come on you sissy marys, get it right or not in the face, not in the face.
Link Posted: 6/21/2008 8:47:04 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
I guess violence is okay as long as they are the ones committing it.


yea I never understood that about dumycrats so typical
Link Posted: 6/21/2008 8:48:42 PM EDT
[#9]
Wouldn't it be funny if the fellow advising another to punch someone in the face was a bespectacled 5'3", 95 lbs (when wet) weakling in person but a tiger on the keyboard?
Link Posted: 6/21/2008 8:49:16 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
They must have forgotten who is armed...


And how many vets have TBI/PTSD...

Not smart...

I know folks who've come back 'that way'... Picking a fight is NOT a healthy choice...
Link Posted: 6/21/2008 8:49:29 PM EDT
[#11]
These are your Obama supporters folks.
Link Posted: 6/21/2008 8:49:37 PM EDT
[#12]
That Sgt. was more of a man than all those retards put together...
Link Posted: 6/21/2008 8:50:56 PM EDT
[#13]
Link Posted: 6/21/2008 8:53:17 PM EDT
[#14]
Bring it on liberal fucksticks
Link Posted: 6/21/2008 8:56:17 PM EDT
[#15]
I just don't understand those darn liberals.
Link Posted: 6/21/2008 8:59:06 PM EDT
[#16]
Even the frailest, palest skinny lib can act tough on the internet.
Link Posted: 6/21/2008 9:02:55 PM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:

roguevalley  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list   Sat Jun-21-08 01:33 PM
Response to Reply #5
11. and then you punch them in the face. I think I would at that moment.

fuckers. You could also ask them about their 'service'. call them cowards.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6393825#6394284


Wouldn't be the first time.



Remember, violence is ALWAYS wrong... unless you're a socialist.
Link Posted: 6/21/2008 9:03:10 PM EDT
[#18]
Link Posted: 6/21/2008 9:04:18 PM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
DUers. Violence.

Why am I thinking of the finale in BLAZING SADDLES ?


"You brute, you brute, you vicious brute! Waaaaah!"

"I'm parked out by the commissary."
Link Posted: 6/21/2008 9:06:45 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:
Even the frailest, palest skinny lib can act tough on the internet.


They're insane. The ones who aren't insane are either grossly immature or evil.
Link Posted: 6/21/2008 9:06:57 PM EDT
[#21]
I would relish the day...
Link Posted: 6/21/2008 9:26:42 PM EDT
[#22]
We can only hope they are carrying....
Link Posted: 6/21/2008 9:27:42 PM EDT
[#23]
Those comments enrage me, really.

They talk about the "sick minds" that point out that he volunteered for the job.

Ummm. Hello? He did! You know why he did? Because he's a brave, proud, patriotic man who had the balls to VOLUNTEER for the job, knowing the risks, just to keep the assholes on DU safe at home, without having to worry about being subjugated to the same miserable existence that those who lived under Saddam did.

He died to keep you safe, to keep your country safe, and they don't give a hairy rats ass about his sacrifice because they'd rather sit comfortably behind their computer and sigh about how unjust the world is.

I would say to send the DU'ers over there to live under a dictatorship and see how they like it, but apparently that's what they want, and will quite possibly get, since they'll be voting for Obama.

I believe that the WOT does have its problems, and that the Bush admin has mislead the American people, but I don't believe for a second that the country, or world for that matter, would be a better place if we just sat back and allowed ourselves to be attacked and threatened without retaliation.

Fuckers. I cling to the hope that one day they'll see that they're wrong, and that without brave servicemen willing to lay down their lives, then there wouldn't be any of our country left worth saving.
Link Posted: 6/21/2008 9:28:40 PM EDT
[#24]
BRING IT!
Link Posted: 6/21/2008 9:30:26 PM EDT
[#25]
They need to take that frustration... bury it deep down inside... and release it in Denver at the convention
Link Posted: 6/21/2008 9:33:01 PM EDT
[#26]
i want to join that message board and stir the pot anybody with me
Link Posted: 6/21/2008 9:34:17 PM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:
i want to join that message board and stir the pot anybody with me


They'll ban you.  If you don't tow the party line completely or if you ever speak out about a democrat, you'll be banned.  Typical democratic principles of inclusion.
Link Posted: 6/21/2008 9:36:39 PM EDT
[#28]
yeah ur right, but im going to do it anyways
Link Posted: 6/21/2008 9:37:03 PM EDT
[#29]
from another thread...


roguevalley  (1000+ posts)       Fri Sep-16-05 04:13 AM
Response to Reply #2
3. I grew up in Oregon and my experience living in a red place as the daughter of a logger was just fine and dandy. Oregon has EVERYTHING and wonderful places to live. The Portland area usually thinks they ARE the state and everyone else is a squarehead. Frankly, I am tired of that stereotype. Eugene down is the southern part of the state. I grew up in the rogue valley and loved it. Medford is the biggest city there with Ashland, a college town and cultural center, nearby.

The rain used to be greater when I was a kid. The rains come but you can live with it. The summers in August are very hot. Its got every kind of weather and terrain possible from sand dunes to rain forests. Urban and rural mixes, nice small towns, farming. I love it dearly. Its the home I think of when someone asks me where I come from.

There are liberals and conservatives. I have never been bothered for my progressive beliefs and you will be amazed at the diversity. Go and be happy. I was.



Yep. It's an angry woman lashing out.

Wonder if she spikes trees too?

Link Posted: 6/21/2008 9:37:39 PM EDT
[#30]


I advocate mandatory military service for all young men out of high school.

If after they serve honorably they still have a gripe, then I might be willing to listen.
Link Posted: 6/21/2008 9:38:20 PM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:
I guess violence is okay as long as they are the ones committing it.


everything a liberal does is okay for them and not for their opponents.
Link Posted: 6/21/2008 9:39:15 PM EDT
[#32]
Why are you on DU in the first place?
Link Posted: 6/21/2008 9:40:00 PM EDT
[#33]

Quoted:

I advocate mandatory military service for all young men out of high school.

If after they serve honorably they still have a gripe, then I might be willing to listen.


That would be a pretty good way to destroy our military's morale.  Not to mention spark some pretty horrendous civil disturbances at home.  Americans just don't like being conscripted.
Link Posted: 6/21/2008 9:42:18 PM EDT
[#34]
more...


Posted by roguevalley on Sun Mar-05-06 02:50 AM

I'm 53 and I hear ya. Between global warming and the asshats
in charge, I am damned glad I have no grandchildren.


So it's an angry old bat who is lashing out. Maybe she'll get so mad she will wreck her Subaru!
Link Posted: 6/21/2008 9:45:21 PM EDT
[#35]
i wonder how he would feel about him and his daughter being used as a political tool in death.
Link Posted: 6/21/2008 9:45:44 PM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:
Why are you on DU in the first place?


I'll admit it, I'm browsing DU probably every day.  It's like 'reverse news'... since I pretty much disagree with every single position those retards have, I know that everything they are bitching a storm up against is generally something I should (and usually  do) support.  It basically confirms that they are the idiots I always say they are.  

I like this reply.


3. Jeez, what a waste. Tragedy. Yet the war is out of the news like it's not even happening.
We suck.


Not "war sucks" or "that sucks" or "death sucks"... nooooo... it's "WE SUCK".  Yeah, we suck because people are willing to give their lives for you to bitch and whine about it on the internet.
Link Posted: 6/21/2008 9:48:38 PM EDT
[#37]

Quoted:

Quoted:

I advocate mandatory military service for all young men out of high school.

If after they serve honorably they still have a gripe, then I might be willing to listen.


That would be a pretty good way to destroy our military's morale.  Not to mention spark some pretty horrendous civil disturbances at home.  Americans just don't like being conscripted.


Works well in many nations. Teaches responsibility, discipline, and the cost of freedom.
I'll stand by my advocacy. If trained correctly morale can be maintained.

Americans, ALL Americans, need to learn that freedom is not free. Too many do not understand this and it shows in our current society.
Link Posted: 6/21/2008 9:55:34 PM EDT
[#38]

Quoted:

I advocate mandatory military service for all young men out of high school.

If after they serve honorably they still have a gripe, then I might be willing to listen.


NOOOOO...

We have enough trouble with the ones who DO volunteer...

Draftees would just make life SUCK for the rest of us...
Link Posted: 6/21/2008 9:56:34 PM EDT
[#39]

Quoted:

Quoted:

I advocate mandatory military service for all young men out of high school.

If after they serve honorably they still have a gripe, then I might be willing to listen.


NOOOOO...

We have enough trouble with the ones who DO volunteer...

Draftees would just make life SUCK for the rest of us...


Bingo. and the whole thing about involuntary servitude
Link Posted: 6/21/2008 9:57:57 PM EDT
[#40]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

I advocate mandatory military service for all young men out of high school.

If after they serve honorably they still have a gripe, then I might be willing to listen.


That would be a pretty good way to destroy our military's morale.  Not to mention spark some pretty horrendous civil disturbances at home.  Americans just don't like being conscripted.


Works well in many nations. Teaches responsibility, discipline, and the cost of freedom.
I'll stand by my advocacy. If trained correctly morale can be maintained.

Americans, ALL Americans, need to learn that freedom is not free. Too many do not understand this and it shows in our current society.


The way the military operates in those nations is MUCH different from the way the US military operates today...

If you use conscripts, you have a much 'rougher' and less professional force... Punishments, living conditions, etc... It all goes downhill, because you have to make a bunch of unwilling rather-be-elsewheres do a job that SHOULD only be done by professional volunteers...

I don't want to see the Army go back to the days of leadership-by-assbeating & similar....
Link Posted: 6/21/2008 9:58:59 PM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

I advocate mandatory military service for all young men out of high school.

If after they serve honorably they still have a gripe, then I might be willing to listen.


NOOOOO...

We have enough trouble with the ones who DO volunteer...

Draftees would just make life SUCK for the rest of us...


Bingo. and the whole thing about involuntary servitude


That doesn't apply to the draft, as it's been in place since the 1800s and we've had several conscription-manned wars since then...

The draft is legal... It just is a very bad bad, national-survival-only sort of thing to use...
Link Posted: 6/21/2008 10:02:36 PM EDT
[#42]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

I advocate mandatory military service for all young men out of high school.

If after they serve honorably they still have a gripe, then I might be willing to listen.


That would be a pretty good way to destroy our military's morale.  Not to mention spark some pretty horrendous civil disturbances at home.  Americans just don't like being conscripted.


Works well in many nations. Teaches responsibility, discipline, and the cost of freedom.
I'll stand by my advocacy. If trained correctly morale can be maintained.

Americans, ALL Americans, need to learn that freedom is not free. Too many do not understand this and it shows in our current society.


The way the military operates in those nations is MUCH different from the way the US military operates today...

If you use conscripts, you have a much 'rougher' and less professional force... Punishments, living conditions, etc... It all goes downhill, because you have to make a bunch of unwilling rather-be-elsewheres do a job that SHOULD only be done by professional volunteers...

I don't want to see the Army go back to the days of leadership-by-assbeating & similar....


Don't agree. Conscription was in effect in the 50's when my father served. He told me about his service, he said it was just accepted as part of being an American then.


It was a much better society in many ways in the 1950s, and still a good professional Army.  Civilans had a much better sense of duty.Assbeatings? A good leader is a good leader, period.

ETA Too many Amricans are oblivious men die to keep them free. That needs to change, IMO.
Link Posted: 6/21/2008 10:05:31 PM EDT
[#43]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

I advocate mandatory military service for all young men out of high school.

If after they serve honorably they still have a gripe, then I might be willing to listen.


That would be a pretty good way to destroy our military's morale.  Not to mention spark some pretty horrendous civil disturbances at home.  Americans just don't like being conscripted.


Works well in many nations. Teaches responsibility, discipline, and the cost of freedom.
I'll stand by my advocacy. If trained correctly morale can be maintained.

Americans, ALL Americans, need to learn that freedom is not free. Too many do not understand this and it shows in our current society.


So a good citizen can only know the true value of freedom after his government forcibly deprives him of it?

Individuals own their own lives.  This is the basis of classical liberalism.  The philosophy on which our nation was founded.

Forced conscription is the relic of a bygone feudal society that said the lord owned the lives of everyone in his fief.  I cannot think of a more anti-American (for whatever that term is still worth) practice than conscription.
Link Posted: 6/21/2008 10:05:43 PM EDT
[#44]


I'm joining right now- in another tab, in fact.

I love their CoC rules.  Especially #4:

"Content: Do not post messages that are inflammatory, extreme, divisive, incoherent, or otherwise inappropriate. Do not engage in anti-social, disruptive, or trolling behavior. Do not post broad-brush, bigoted statements. The moderators and administrators work very hard to enforce some minimal standards regarding what content is appropriate. But please remember that this is a large and diverse community that includes a broad range of opinion. People who are easily offended, or who are not accustomed to having their opinions (including deeply held personal convictions) challenged may not feel entirely comfortable here. A thick skin is necessary to participate on this or any other discussion forum."

Um, yeah.  That's obviously evenly enforced.

-p.
Link Posted: 6/21/2008 10:07:37 PM EDT
[#45]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

I advocate mandatory military service for all young men out of high school.

If after they serve honorably they still have a gripe, then I might be willing to listen.


That would be a pretty good way to destroy our military's morale.  Not to mention spark some pretty horrendous civil disturbances at home.  Americans just don't like being conscripted.


Works well in many nations. Teaches responsibility, discipline, and the cost of freedom.
I'll stand by my advocacy. If trained correctly morale can be maintained.

Americans, ALL Americans, need to learn that freedom is not free. Too many do not understand this and it shows in our current society.


So a good citizen can only know the true value of freedom after his government forcibly deprives him of it?

Individuals own their own lives.  This is the basis of classical liberalism.  The philosophy on which our nation was founded.

Forced conscription is the relic of a bygone feudal society that said the lord owned the lives of everyone in his fief.  I cannot think of a more anti-American (for whatever that term is still worth) practice than conscription.


Sorry, don't agree. Freedom is best when earned, not handed to you.
You won't change my mind on this.


Link Posted: 6/21/2008 10:08:56 PM EDT
[#46]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

I advocate mandatory military service for all young men out of high school.

If after they serve honorably they still have a gripe, then I might be willing to listen.


NOOOOO...

We have enough trouble with the ones who DO volunteer...

Draftees would just make life SUCK for the rest of us...


Bingo. and the whole thing about involuntary servitude


That doesn't apply to the draft, as it's been in place since the 1800s and we've had several conscription-manned wars since then...

The draft is legal... It just is a very bad bad, national-survival-only sort of thing to use...


There was no 13th Amendment when the Feds started conscripting during the civil war.

Nobody was conscripted afterwards for another 50 years (world War I).
Link Posted: 6/21/2008 10:09:21 PM EDT
[#47]

Quoted:
I guess violence is okay as long as they are the ones committing it.



Ofcourse it is.  Along with freedom of speech, and freedom of the press.  And if new laws agree with thier ideology and mind frame, etc.

Link Posted: 6/21/2008 10:10:45 PM EDT
[#48]
Id like to see them punch a Nam Vet in the face and see what happens. This reminds me of those code pink bitches who were going to catch the USMC recruiters in cages
Link Posted: 6/21/2008 10:12:09 PM EDT
[#49]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

I advocate mandatory military service for all young men out of high school.

If after they serve honorably they still have a gripe, then I might be willing to listen.


That would be a pretty good way to destroy our military's morale.  Not to mention spark some pretty horrendous civil disturbances at home.  Americans just don't like being conscripted.


Works well in many nations. Teaches responsibility, discipline, and the cost of freedom.
I'll stand by my advocacy. If trained correctly morale can be maintained.

Americans, ALL Americans, need to learn that freedom is not free. Too many do not understand this and it shows in our current society.


So a good citizen can only know the true value of freedom after his government forcibly deprives him of it?

Individuals own their own lives.  This is the basis of classical liberalism.  The philosophy on which our nation was founded.

Forced conscription is the relic of a bygone feudal society that said the lord owned the lives of everyone in his fief.  I cannot think of a more anti-American (for whatever that term is still worth) practice than conscription.


Sorry, don't agree. Freedom is best when earned, not handed to you.
You won't change my mind on this.




So a citizen shouldn't be born to freedom?  Americans shouldn't have full citizenship until they've rendered service to the Federal Government?

Freedom is more appreciated when earned.  That doesn't mean the government has the legal or ethical authority to determine who has freedom and who doesn't.  

From whom do you believe our rights come from anyways? I can assure you, they aren't derived from any government.

eta: Freedom is not the government's property to give or take away.  I'm BORN with freedom, regardless of whatever any government may think.  I'm born with certain inalienable rights.  Chief among these being the right to life and liberty.

Sorry, you won't change my mind, either.  Most of the founders and our own founding documents agree with me on this, too.
Link Posted: 6/21/2008 10:12:09 PM EDT
[#50]
I am an Iraq war supporter.

Send some DU people over here to try some violence on me, please.
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