http://www.legislativegazette.com/day_item.php?item=377

Assemblywoman Michelle Schimel today went to the New York State
Police firing range in Albany to call attention to a live
demonstration of semiautomatic pistols equipped with microstamping technology.
Microstamping is a patented technology that makes the firing pin and
breech face in semiautomatic pistols capable of stamping letters and
numbers onto the cartridge case of the ammunition when fired. The
characters are imprinted onto the firing pin by a laser when the gun
is manufactured. The information on the cartridge can help law
enforcement link the ammunition to the make, model and serial number
of the gun it was fired from.

Schimel, D-Great Neck, proposed legislation that would require every
semiautomatic weapon manufactured in New York to be equipped with the
technology.

The assemblywoman was joined today by Todd Lizotte, managing director
of pivotal development and co-inventor of the microstamping
technology, and Joshua Horowitz, executive director of the
Educational Fund to Stop Gun Violence, who gave a PowerPoint
presentation aimed at combating the arguments raised by those who
have raised objections to microstamping requirements.

Following the demonstration, a heated debate broke out between
supporters and opponents of microstamping when Assemblyman Greg Ball,
R-Carmel, said the gun industry, including firearms stores and
associations, are not being allowed to test out the microstamping
technology or witness demonstrations. Ball was standing along side of
Jake McGuigan, director of government relations for the National
Shooting Sports Foundation Inc.

Schimel denied the accusations.

(An emailing from NYSRPA yesterday)

Quoted: http://www.legislativegazette.com/day_item.php?item=377 Assemblywoman Michelle Schimel today went to the New York State Police firing range in Albany to call attention to a live demonstration of semiautomatic pistols equipped with microstamping technology. Microstamping is a patented technology that makes the firing pin and breech face in semiautomatic pistols capable of stamping letters and numbers onto the cartridge case of the ammunition when fired. The characters are imprinted onto the firing pin by a laser when the gun is manufactured. The information on the cartridge can help law enforcement link the ammunition to the make, model and serial number of the gun it was fired from. Schimel, D-Great Neck, proposed legislation that would require every semiautomatic weapon manufactured in New York to be equipped with the technology. The assemblywoman was joined today by Todd Lizotte, managing director of pivotal development and co-inventor of the microstamping technology, and Joshua Horowitz, executive director of the Educational Fund to Stop Gun Violence, who gave a PowerPoint presentation aimed at combating the arguments raised by those who have raised objections to microstamping requirements. Following the demonstration, a heated debate broke out between supporters and opponents of microstamping when Assemblyman Greg Ball, R-Carmel, said the gun industry, including firearms stores and associations, are not being allowed to test out the microstamping technology or witness demonstrations. Ball was standing along side of Jake McGuigan, director of government relations for the National Shooting Sports Foundation Inc. Schimel denied the accusations. (An emailing from NYSRPA yesterday)

I feeling that Kimber will be looking for new stomping grounds...

So wjhat if you polsh the breech face and replace the firing pin?

Stupid fucks.

It is also a defacto registry..

Quoted: So wjhat if you polsh the breech face and replace the firing pin? Stupid fucks.

They'll make that a federal felony if they can.   Heaven forbid if you grind down the firing pin: you know what that does.......

So replace the firing pin, or swap it with someone else's.  Same with the extractor, ejector, etc.

what a bunch of bumbling retards.  Maybe they should have microstamping bumbers so we know who they hit when they drive drunk?

CT just killed that proposal when Colt told them that they would leave if a microstamping bill was passed.

Well to insure it doesn't happen people should be contacting the makers of semi-auto hand guns and let them know you the buyer are not in favor of this and will not purchase their weapons if they go this route.

Can't wait till someone goes to the range and picks up a bunch of microstamped brass that's just lying around and leaves it at the next crime scene, causing some innocent person a bunch of unnecessary grief.

Note to self: Use revolvers.

Quoted: Note to self: Use revolvers.

You mean ultra-powerful, vest penetrating weapons that leave no trace, used only by skilled assassins?

Quoted: It is also a defacto registry..

+a jillion  This is the main point that I see people constantly overlooking.  The only way this system works is through registration.  "Long live the Tsar"

Quoted: Can't wait till someone goes to the range and picks up a bunch of microstamped brass that's just lying around and leaves it at the next crime scene, causing some innocent person a bunch of unnecessary grief.

How dare you to think outside the box.

I'll bet the idiots that thought up this stupid stuff never heard of reloading.  

Quoted: Quoted: Can't wait till someone goes to the range and picks up a bunch of microstamped brass that's just lying around and leaves it at the next crime scene, causing some innocent person a bunch of unnecessary grief. How dare you to think outside the box.

You won't have to find a crime scene to wreak havoc.

In that not so very distance future, simply scatter brass anywhere the sheep will find it and *poof*, you've created a 'crime' scene; likely complete with bomb squad, hazmat, BATF and the obligatory SWAT.

Fuck this shit.... all the more reason to buy my guns now.......

I can see this actually causing them to have LESS crimes solved.

If the stamping is there, you'll probably see criminals picking up their brass instead of leaving it at the scene.  No casings = less evidence.  Or they'll just throw other people's brass around as suggested by many others.

Quoted: Fuck this shit.... all the more reason to buy my guns now.......

I'm trying, i'm trying!!

They're already doing it with some tazers...

www.beststungun.com/taserc2.html

Anti-Felon Identification (AFID)
A system to deter misuse through enhanced accountability, AFID includes bar-coded serialization of each cartridge and disperses confetti-like ID tags upon activation.

1: Stickup guys will shove their hand and gat inside a laundry bag to catch the brass.

2: There will be a wave of robberies by laundry bag wielding perps.

3: Laundry bags will be banned.

"...the gun industry, including firearms stores and associations, are not being allowed to test out the microstamping technology, or witness demonstrations". That would be like requiring the use of medical equipment, but not allowing doctors or medical technicians to test it out and rate it first. This is nothing but a political scam; no wonder the popularity of elected officials is as low as it is. Why won't they let people in the industry test it? Probably because after a hundred rounds or so no one could tell what case came out of what gun!

brass catcher

Quoted: Quoted: So wjhat if you polsh the breech face and replace the firing pin? Stupid fucks. They'll make that a federal felony if they can.   Heaven forbid if you grind down the firing pin: you know what that does.......

Yep.

And what a coincidence, I think shooting someone offensively is against the law as well. Let's hope criminals who would use a firearm in a crime don't want that felony conviction for altering their firearm (which I'm sure was legally obtained) as well.

Quoted: what a bunch of bumbling retards.  Maybe they should have microstamping bumbers so we know who they hit when they drive drunk?

+1

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Can't wait till someone goes to the range and picks up a bunch of microstamped brass that's just lying around and leaves it at the next crime scene, causing some innocent person a bunch of unnecessary grief. How dare you to think outside the box. You won't have to find a crime scene to wreak havoc. In that not so very distance future, simply scatter brass anywhere the sheep will find it and *poof*, you've created a 'crime' scene; likely complete with bomb squad, hazmat, BATF and the obligatory SWAT.

And thinking outside the box even more, you can create about a half dozen scenes like this in half an hours time, a majority of the police force is preoccupied leaving you and your friends to wreak some REAL havoc.

edit - mixed up type of microstamping - related ammo microstamping thread


Remember - this is an organized effort by a company to get a microstamping law passed in every state in the US. Why? because they are the only company with a possible microstamping technology in existance, right now

ammunitionaccountability.org


Read who is behind this starting on page 3 of that thread AND CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVES IN GOVERNMENT


edit - my bad - got this thread mixed up with the other microstamping of ammo thread
this tread is gun microstamping of ammo, the other was factory microstamping of ammo

Quoted: So wjhat if you polsh the breech face and replace the firing pin? Stupid fucks.

They would make it illegal to change breach face or firing pin. Only authorized gunsmiths would be able to legally change firing pins and do breach face work.

Quoted: It is also a defacto registry..

So is filling out a form 4473.

so what happens when the firing pin wears out by .005 gun still fires but no micro stamping and even though you are law abiding in every other way now you are a felon in possession of a modified weapon...which was caused by normal use...