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Posted: 2/3/2007 4:22:08 PM EDT
Damn strong words.


www.washingtontimes.com/functions/print.php?StoryID=20070203-121354-8054r


Caption: Democratic Presidential hopeful Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y. gestures while speaking at the Democratic National Committee Winter Meetings in Washington, yesterday. (AP)

Hillary vows to end war
By Donald Lambro

THE WASHINGTON TIMES
Published February 3, 2007

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton said yesterday she would end the Iraq war as president if the conflict was still raging when she took office.

"If we in Congress don't end this war before January 2009, as president, I will," the New York Democrat said at the Democratic National Committee Winter Meeting here.

Iraq and economic populism were by far the dominant issues among the half-dozen presidential contenders who sought their party leadership's support at the DNC meeting. Mrs. Clinton and her chief rivals repeatedly brought the overflow crowd at the Washington Hilton to its feet in cheering each denunciation of President Bush's war policies.

After well-received speeches by Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois and former Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina, who called for early troop withdrawal from a war they said never should have been waged, Mrs. Clinton was under pressure to stake out an equally strong policy position before the fiercely anti-war audience.

"I want to be very clear about this: If I had been president in October 2002, I would not have started this war," said the former first lady, who has been criticized by anti-war voices for voting to authorize the war and steadfastly refusing to support calls for a military pullout.

Mrs. Clinton has refused to say her vote for the war was a mistake and has proposed a cap on troop levels instead of troop reductions. A group of anti-war hecklers could be heard in the packed hall when she talked about her support for a Senate resolution opposing Mr. Bush's plan to send an additional 21,500 troops to Iraq, a resolution some of her rivals have called weak and ineffective.

But she defended the nonbinding resolution being debated in the Senate.

"I understand there is frustration and outrage," Mrs. Clinton said, adding that "if we can pass a resolution disapproving of the troop escalation, that will be the first time we said no to President Bush." She also called for cutting funds for the Iraqi army if it does not achieve certain benchmarks.

Of the three top-tier candidates, Mr. Edwards drew the strongest responses for his emotional message of economic populism as he talked of poverty in America, "children who go to bed hungry" and do not have health care -- repeating the challenging refrain: "Will you stand up for them, will you stand up for America?"

He condemned the Senate resolution challenging the troop buildup in Iraq as meaningless, and in a pointed remark that some saw as a thinly veiled criticism of Democrats such as Mrs. Clinton, he said: "This is not a time for political calculation. This is a time for political courage. We have to stand up against George Bush's escalation of this war."

Denouncing those in the party who want to change its policies to broaden its appeal to more moderate voters, Mr. Edwards said, "We don't need to redefine the Democratic Party, we need to reclaim it."

Mr. Obama, who was received like a celebrity, also condemned the war, saying that the party's candidates had "a responsibility to put forward a plan to get us out of Iraq and [end] the bloodshed." He called for a phased withdrawal from Iraq in three to four months.

But much of his speech was a more muted, reflective critique of modern-day campaigning, which he said has turned politics "into a game, a blood sport" in which one's opponents "are not just wrong, but they are bad. This is not a game, this is not about digging up skeletons. This is not a contest for TV cameras. It's a contest for America," Mr. Obama said.

Sen. Christopher J. Dodd of Connecticut also criticized the Democrats' compromise resolution on the war.

"Frankly, I'm disappointed," Mr. Dodd said. "It's time to get our troops out of the country and we're debating a nonbinding resolution. It's time to send a bill to the president with real teeth in it."

Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. of Delaware, Gov. Bill Richardson of New Mexico and former Gov. Tom Vilsack of Iowa are scheduled to address the DNC today.

Link Posted: 2/3/2007 4:24:59 PM EDT
[#1]
She will get the "Let's hurry and surrender vote".
Link Posted: 2/3/2007 4:25:43 PM EDT
[#2]
Vietnam the sequal!
Link Posted: 2/3/2007 4:29:11 PM EDT
[#3]
Die bitch!
Link Posted: 2/3/2007 4:30:53 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
She will get the "Let's hurry and surrender vote".




Link Posted: 2/3/2007 4:31:39 PM EDT
[#5]
If that's not giving "aid," that sure as heck is giving "comfort" to the enemy!  Can you imagine being at war with an entity with a serious contender for "leader"  who was saying that??!  Hilary is nothing more that an establishment Jane Fonda.
Link Posted: 2/3/2007 4:31:49 PM EDT
[#6]
So, how will she get the terrorists to stop attacking?

Link Posted: 2/3/2007 4:32:38 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:

Quoted:
She will get the "Let's hurry and surrender vote".






Man, if that ain't the truth.

No foresight - just get our troops out now.  

Reminds me of this pic:

Link Posted: 2/3/2007 4:36:38 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
So, how will she get the terrorists to stop attacking?



The Dems are calling for more diplomacy.

That’ll stop ‘em.
Link Posted: 2/3/2007 4:37:32 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
If that's not giving "aid," that sure as heck is giving "comfort" to the enemy!  Can you imagine being at war with an entity with a serious contender for "leader"  who was saying that??!  Hilary is nothing more that an establishment Jane Fonda.


My retirement cert is signed by Slick Willy - it's packed in a box, never to see the wall.  

Same family, same shit.
Link Posted: 2/3/2007 4:38:33 PM EDT
[#10]
That pic is very Naziesque and reminds me of some of Hitlers rants. Its just begging for a caption in German IMO
Link Posted: 2/3/2007 4:38:53 PM EDT
[#11]
Sad as this and as much as I hate to say this here is the reality....

Hillary has more money raised than anyone.

Many will elect her thinking it's a way for Bill to get back in.

90% of the population still thinks that Clinton made the economy great. (it was Reaganomics but many think it was Bill)

The media loves her.

There isn't a conservative running right now that can beat her.

Rudy is not a conservative, but the only one so far according to polls with a chance.


The sad fact is this..... She may end up getting elected.

Unfortunately, we are the minority. Unfortunately the majority of those who do vote, vote based on the "feel good" sound bites.

I sure hope I am wrong here, I really do. BUT I think you may be looking at the next President.

I mean face it, I never thought her husband would get in the first time, and I was shocked that he got re-elected for a second term.

The mob is unfortunately acutely unaware of the issues and consequences of their voting trends.

It's gonna be a long 2 yrs watching this stuff.


Link Posted: 2/3/2007 4:40:06 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
So, how will she get the terrorists to stop attacking?



Capitulate.
Link Posted: 2/3/2007 4:40:53 PM EDT
[#13]
..
Link Posted: 2/3/2007 4:42:02 PM EDT
[#14]



Of the three top-tier candidates, Mr. Edwards drew the strongest responses for his emotional message of economic populism as he talked of poverty in America, "children who go to bed hungry" and do not have health care -- repeating the challenging refrain: "Will you stand up for them, will you stand up for America?"




I wonder how many of those poverty stricken children live here?
Link Posted: 2/3/2007 4:42:06 PM EDT
[#15]
This is GW's war. He should clean it up as soon as possible.
Link Posted: 2/3/2007 4:42:34 PM EDT
[#16]

I need T P for my bungholio!
Link Posted: 2/3/2007 4:42:47 PM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
The sad fact is this..... She may end up getting elected.


I'm right there with you...just sadder, with a good helping of disgust.
Link Posted: 2/3/2007 4:43:00 PM EDT
[#18]
Who cares?  
No one supports the war anymore.  
Hell half this site doesn't support it.
If you think this will galvanize America against her, you are sadly mistaken.
This will make moderates (liberal-lites) like her even more.

I am one of those that still falls into the supports Bush on terrorism, and tax cuts and anti-UN, but not a whole lot.  He squander a prime opportunity to rally conservatives, while Republicans ran Washington.  Now we are set to have another 10-20 years of Democrat rule.  It will get ugly.  Jimmy Carter inflation ugly.  Jimmy Carter hostage (terrorism) ugly.

I don't think all is well in Iraq, but I don't have a better solution, either.  My solution would be to go nuclear on Iran.  But that would create more trouble than it would solve, I suspect.  So I am one of those who doesn't know the answer, but "Cut and Run" ain't it, for sure.

Link Posted: 2/3/2007 4:44:04 PM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:

Quoted:
So, how will she get the terrorists to stop attacking?



Capitulate.


Yeah...we'll capitulate, and they'll continue to decapitate.
Link Posted: 2/3/2007 4:45:55 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:
images.washtimes.com/photos/full/20070202-104316-7173.jpg
I need T P for my bungholio!



Hey now, dont go insulting a person more intelligent than her, thats just wrong!
Link Posted: 2/3/2007 4:46:03 PM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:
NonConformist...
That pic is very Naziesque and reminds me of some of Hitlers rants.







Link Posted: 2/3/2007 4:46:13 PM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
I don't think all is well in Iraq, but I don't have a better solution, either.  My solution would be to go nuclear on Iran.  But that would create more trouble than it would solve, I suspect.  So I am one of those who doesn't know the answer, but "Cut and Run" ain't it, for sure.


I'm with you, except the nuke option.  I say hammer them before they hammer us.

Yeah, Bush didn't get it exaclty right.

But any other viable option at the time (Kerry) would've left us worse off.
Link Posted: 2/3/2007 4:48:08 PM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:

Quoted:
The sad fact is this..... She may end up getting elected.


I'm right there with you...just sadder, with a good helping of disgust.


What's even sadder is it will continue to get worse.  The liberal majority is growing at an increasing rate.  Maybe exponentially.  No one wants to take personal responsibility.  Everyone wants the government to provide for them.  Add to that the millions of illegals and felons, and dead people that will be voting Democrat in the next 10 years and the picture ain't rosy.  

It will take another charismatic person like Ronald Reagan.  I hope to God that person is lurking in the shadows somewhere.  I really thought we had that person in Sec of State Blackwell, of Ohio.  He is an enthusiastic conservative, but was soundly defeated along party lines in the last election for state Governor.
Link Posted: 2/3/2007 4:50:24 PM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
The sad fact is this..... She may end up getting elected.


I'm right there with you...just sadder, with a good helping of disgust.


What's even sadder is it will continue to get worse.


Of this, I have absolutely no doubt.
Link Posted: 2/3/2007 4:52:51 PM EDT
[#25]


Fur Die Heimat und das viertes Bitches Reich!
Link Posted: 2/3/2007 4:54:16 PM EDT
[#26]
I'm no foreign relations or terrorist expert, but saying she'll end the war doesn't that mean she's admitting defeat? That is not good IMHO.
Link Posted: 2/3/2007 5:05:49 PM EDT
[#27]
It will be a sad day for America if her or Obama are elected POTUS. The saddest part is it will most likely happen.
Link Posted: 2/3/2007 5:37:03 PM EDT
[#28]
WE can only hope for this:

BANG!
Link Posted: 2/3/2007 5:43:12 PM EDT
[#29]
ruh oh, i believe that picture falls under coc violation...

also, i wonder if she gets an erection like hitler used to while doing his speeches.
Link Posted: 2/3/2007 5:44:22 PM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:
ruh oh, i believe that picture falls under coc violation...

also, i wonder if she gets an erection like hitler used to while doing his speeches.


I hear that she's hung like a doughnut!
Link Posted: 2/3/2007 5:44:38 PM EDT
[#31]
Yeah, IBTL
Link Posted: 2/3/2007 5:47:26 PM EDT
[#32]

Quoted:
ruh oh, i believe that picture falls under coc violation...

also, i wonder if she gets an erection like hitler used to while doing his speeches.


Simmer down that pic does not violate anything.

Jesus relax.

Link Posted: 2/3/2007 5:53:52 PM EDT
[#33]
Yeah, but taking his post in its entirety...
Link Posted: 2/3/2007 5:58:05 PM EDT
[#34]

Quoted:
WE can only hope for this:
i49.photobucket.com/albums/f293/WolfgangZ/Bitch.jpg
BANG!


I actually believe it would happen if she was elected.
Link Posted: 2/3/2007 6:11:07 PM EDT
[#35]
She won't make it 28 feet before she has her "Dean" moment.

Trust me.

Yesterday, the Stupid Cunt said that she'd "take the profits" from the oil companies - she committed to use the power of the .gov to steal money from Big Oil.

Do you think they will use some percentage of their untold billions to Swift Boat her campaign?

The Dims really want Obama Osama Obama, and they will throw Stupid Cunt to the wolves when she goes Hitler in front of the wrong audience in order to get him.
Link Posted: 2/3/2007 6:12:57 PM EDT
[#36]
If she does get elected, then she will make some nuclear power mad enough at us that they will nuke us.  I can imagine multiple cities disappearing because of her.  She is a very angry and vengful person.  She simply is not fit for the presidency.
Link Posted: 2/3/2007 6:14:45 PM EDT
[#37]
Link Posted: 2/3/2007 6:17:32 PM EDT
[#38]
Here is my 30 second photochop.
Link Posted: 2/3/2007 6:22:19 PM EDT
[#39]
WAR IS PEACE!
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY!
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH!

Sieg heil! *clicks heels*
Link Posted: 2/3/2007 6:22:36 PM EDT
[#40]





very scary
Link Posted: 2/3/2007 6:24:09 PM EDT
[#41]
She wins and I'm selling off almost everything I own save my 4x4, motorcycle and guns and get a couple of acres of land in Wyoming so far off map you'll need a hunting dog and a Ouija board to find me.

I'd rather spend my last days in a tiny cabin by myself rather than watch this nation die at her hands (and most of the people around me thinking that it's a Good Thing).

Link Posted: 2/3/2007 6:28:51 PM EDT
[#42]
Me and a few close friends are right there in sentiment with you.
Link Posted: 2/3/2007 6:32:30 PM EDT
[#43]

Quoted:
She wins and I'm selling off almost everything I own save my 4x4, motorcycle and guns and get a couple of acres of land in Wyoming so far off map you'll need a hunting dog and a Ouija board to find me.

I'd rather spend my last days in a tiny cabin by myself rather than watch this nation die at her hands (and most of the people around me thinking that it's a Good Thing).



Hunting dog, check
Ouija board, ordered and on the way

Will you take some company?
Link Posted: 2/3/2007 6:38:12 PM EDT
[#44]
She wins and 2008 is the last election that we see under the current form of government.

Mark my words....
Link Posted: 2/3/2007 6:39:21 PM EDT
[#45]
If she is elected the first terrorists bombs will go off to coincide with the finish of her inauguration speech.
Link Posted: 2/3/2007 6:46:35 PM EDT
[#46]

Quoted:
She wins and 2008 is the last election that we see under the current form of government.

Mark my words....



Quoted:
If she is elected the first terrorists bombs will go off to coincide with the finish of her inauguration speech.


Yep squared.
Link Posted: 2/3/2007 6:54:32 PM EDT
[#47]

Quoted:
Die COW bitch!


fixed it
Link Posted: 2/3/2007 6:55:16 PM EDT
[#48]

Quoted:
She wins and I'm selling off almost everything I own save my 4x4, motorcycle and guns and get a couple of acres of land in Wyoming so far off map you'll need a hunting dog and a Ouija board to find me.

I'd rather spend my last days in a tiny cabin by myself rather than watch this nation die at her hands (and most of the people around me thinking that it's a Good Thing).



Wolf, you already moved to MT to escape the coming storm.

Are you planning on moving again to the undisclosed bugout location in case of zombie infestation or a severe case of Nationwide Liberal Mental Disorder?
Link Posted: 2/3/2007 6:58:23 PM EDT
[#49]


definetally seeing a resemblance.
Link Posted: 2/3/2007 6:59:52 PM EDT
[#50]

Quoted:

Quoted:
She wins and I'm selling off almost everything I own save my 4x4, motorcycle and guns and get a couple of acres of land in Wyoming so far off map you'll need a hunting dog and a Ouija board to find me.

I'd rather spend my last days in a tiny cabin by myself rather than watch this nation die at her hands (and most of the people around me thinking that it's a Good Thing).



Wolf, you already moved to MT to escape the coming storm.

Are you planning on moving again to the undisclosed bugout location in case of zombie infestation or a severe case of Nationwide Liberal Mental Disorder?


MT was always planned as a "decompression stop" to see how I'd deal with a more rural environment.  The last thing I wanted to do was jump into "really rural" and find out I couldn't deal with it.  As it turns out I'm fine with it and miss very little about urban "conveniences".  The hermit/recluse lifestyle seems to suit me.  
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