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Posted: 10/10/2006 8:14:10 AM EDT
[#1]
Not a flame, but a serious question. Why would you want a very expensive and heavy
semi-auto .223? Is it a cool factor thing or novelty purchase? |
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Posted: 10/10/2006 8:16:58 AM EDT
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Semi-auto belt feds are a rarity. The only ones I know about are replicas of the M2 and the M1919, a couple of semi-auto BAR clones, and some H&K 21 clones made from converted H&K G3 rifle clones. I don't know of any semi-auto M249 clones. |
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Posted: 10/10/2006 8:17:15 AM EDT
[#3]
If I had the money to spend on something like that I probably would 
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Posted: 10/10/2006 8:21:02 AM EDT
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I seriously doubt that. A post sample costs more than that IIRC. a semi auto conversion would likely cost twice as much. |
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Posted: 10/10/2006 8:21:50 AM EDT
[#5]
I remember it... 6 figure cost...
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Posted: 10/10/2006 8:23:09 AM EDT
[#6]
It would require the manufacture of semi-auto M249's. Which I don't think has ever happened, unless someone bought some unfinished recievers and finished them in semi format.
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Posted: 10/10/2006 8:25:39 AM EDT
[#7]
I remember seeing them too, a few years back 8000 IIRC
A Full auto one for us peons is like 100k, of course LE can buy them for about $5000, you know, for our safety 
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Posted: 10/10/2006 8:26:19 AM EDT
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Rock Island used to make semi-auto M-60s if I recall correctly, but they were rather spendy.
I just googled it, and the one example I found for sale was offered for the low, low retail price of only US$15,000.00!  Not giving the link, because I don't want anyone else to out-bid me!
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Posted: 10/10/2006 8:26:53 AM EDT
[#9]
cop basher. 
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Posted: 10/10/2006 8:28:22 AM EDT
[#10]
Making a semi-auto from a full isn't easy. BATFE must approve the receiver so it cannot be easily converted. No drop-in parts.
And the sporting caluse is often used. While an M2/M1919 can be "sporting" for say, reenactment use, a M249 doesn't yet have that use... Time. Just time. |
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Posted: 10/10/2006 8:31:13 AM EDT
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What? Nobody re-enacts the invasion of Panama? |
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Posted: 10/10/2006 8:31:26 AM EDT
[#12]
Part of it is a cool factor. I got into a discussion with a buddy of mine about it, I figured the collective arfcom knowledge would merit some information.
Also, I am aware that Beta C mags are more readily available and cheaper (I have two  )
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Posted: 10/10/2006 8:31:39 AM EDT
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Some gun rag talked about the FN plant and said that the M249 is a bitch to make. Takes a good deal of time, and has to be done right. Can't just slap it together.
 No pr0n!? 
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Posted: 10/10/2006 8:41:02 AM EDT
[#14]
Actually, I want to see if I can bump fire it
That would be the tacti-coolest! |
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Posted: 10/10/2006 9:00:55 AM EDT
[#15]
Kharn |
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Posted: 10/10/2006 9:05:22 AM EDT
[#16]
A buddy of mine had a Semi M249 a few years back. Can't remember who made it though. As I recall it ran well.
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Posted: 10/10/2006 9:09:19 AM EDT
[#17]
Wow, every M249 I've ever seen looks like it was slapped together by poorly trained monkeys. Poor machining and worse welding. Cheaply made POS, IMO. |
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Posted: 10/10/2006 9:16:00 AM EDT
[#18]
Then tell that to the ATF and lets start gettings some Imbel FAL's coming back into the country. |
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Posted: 10/10/2006 9:16:24 AM EDT
[#19]
Here you go!!!!
Look down the page a-ways - $8,500 ..... www.urban-armory.com/justin.htm Semi HK-21/RPD, too ...... FN minimi semi auto saw $8500.00!!! call to get on the list delivery in 2006 see pic below ................ 
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Posted: 10/10/2006 9:17:14 AM EDT
[#20]
US Ordnance still does. |
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Posted: 10/10/2006 9:17:54 AM EDT
[#21]
uhh, they are imported. 
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Posted: 10/10/2006 9:39:14 AM EDT
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I believe the FAL, along with the AK (two popular examples) are considered non-sporting. That's why we see floods of AK and FAL parts kits coming in, but no full guns. That's why WASR's come in as single stack guns with thumbhole stocks and are converted to double stack and pistol grips once they get here. The FAL, with it's "high capacity" magazines, pistol grip and bayonet lug place it firmly in the non-sporting group. I could be wrong though, and if I am, I'm sure someone will correct me. |
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Posted: 10/10/2006 9:47:52 AM EDT
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If FN Manufactured a semi-M249, I'd pay $6000 for it in a heartbeat. If is was some converted parts gun hack job made by Bubba LLC, I wouldn't be interested in it at any price.
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Posted: 10/10/2006 9:52:53 AM EDT
[#24]
I wish we were still being flooded with FAL kits. Kits are definitely drying up. |
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Posted: 10/10/2006 9:59:33 AM EDT
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15,000.00 for a semi M60????? Wow I know where a NIB OK unfired cant remember about the box for allot less than that its a AM Delta (iirc) If interested post or IM me its at a buddies fun shop he had 3 now he has 1 left.
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Posted: 10/10/2006 10:04:03 AM EDT
[#26]
US Ordnance has the M60 and M60E3 Semi-Auto models starting at $6 or 8000 |
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Posted: 10/10/2006 10:04:33 AM EDT
[#27]
SteyrAug,
What is the post sample cost for an HK-21E? |
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Posted: 10/10/2006 10:59:25 AM EDT
[#28]
Honestly I don't know. Everything is POR and I've never had an LE agency request one. |
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Posted: 10/10/2006 11:10:12 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/10/2006 11:17:45 AM EDT
[#30]
Vietnam is the most recent to have a big following. Ive seen Mod Demos of Grenada at time line type events, but no one is doing Cubans or Grenadines |
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Posted: 10/10/2006 11:25:15 AM EDT
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If I was willing to drop $6K on a semi (which could be spent on a real MG - MACx2/AC-556/UZI/...), I would get this - nice gun and great company (they make the XMG MG-34 conversion) .....
www.brpguns.com/mg42semi.htm In reality, it would be wiser to get an XMG and run it on a sem-auto AR-15 lower in the advent that one may get an RR or RDIAS in the future ..... www.brpguns.com/xmg.htm |
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Posted: 10/10/2006 11:33:44 AM EDT
[#32]
I want a real M60.
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Posted: 10/10/2006 11:35:24 AM EDT
[#33]
get a shrike beltfed upper for your ar15-m16
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Posted: 10/10/2006 11:39:21 AM EDT
[#34]
lolz |
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Posted: 10/10/2006 11:55:14 AM EDT
[#35]
Why not just wait for the Shrike?
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Posted: 10/10/2006 12:11:48 PM EDT
[#36]
Been waiting on that one a looooonnnnnggggg time
 Unfortunately, don't think that is going to ever materialize 
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Posted: 10/10/2006 12:17:50 PM EDT
[#37]
Wow the one I know of is $6500.00 |
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Posted: 10/10/2006 12:26:31 PM EDT
[#38]
Not that anyone but civilians and perhaps some police still use those things after their failure in Afghanistan. |
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Posted: 10/10/2006 12:44:44 PM EDT
[#39]
A few people have gotten their's, including SteyrAUG on this board. I wonder what the big hold up is? They would be selling like hotcakes! |
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Posted: 10/10/2006 1:16:19 PM EDT
[#40]
Yeah, but SteyerAUG has more guns than the NRA museum. Hell, he probably has things that haven't even been invented yet
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Posted: 10/10/2006 1:23:18 PM EDT
[#41]
I believe it was US Ordnance that was also making the semi M249s. I don't know if they ever actually released a production version, but I know someone was trying to build one. IIRC, the price was close to $10K. |
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Posted: 10/10/2006 1:58:01 PM EDT
[#42]
?????? |
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Posted: 10/10/2006 1:58:57 PM EDT
[#43]
See my post - Urban Armory is taking orders at $8K - I don't know who is making them. |
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Posted: 10/10/2006 2:01:03 PM EDT
[#44]
Just ordered three last week - they're in that ballpark. |
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Posted: 10/10/2006 2:02:52 PM EDT
[#45]
ORF is planning one and by the time they get it out it will be a C&R.
j/k |
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Posted: 10/10/2006 3:55:38 PM EDT
[#46]
Yeah, but I remember seeing that Urban Armory over five years ago. Let's see if they ever actually deliver any. |
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Posted: 10/11/2006 4:36:27 AM EDT
[#47]
Yea, come to think of it, that ad has been there a long time ..... Too bad the conversion for the MAC didn't materialize - at a reasonable price - work - and not be classified as a postie!!!!!! |
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Posted: 10/11/2006 5:13:33 AM EDT
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A belt-fed semi-auto... isn't that like having monster truck tires on a bicycle?
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Posted: 10/11/2006 8:45:27 AM EDT
[#49]
 Click To See The M60E4 In Action  RIA M60-E4 |
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Posted: 10/11/2006 3:17:49 PM EDT
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I remember probably 7 years ago or so, seeing some ads in shotgun news for semi auto M249's. As one other poster has mentioned, I also seem to recall it was US Ordnance producing them. And for the record, semi auto or not, heavy or not, I would gladely shell out a few thousand dollars for a SAW. I hated being forced to carry one in the Army, but now I kinda miss my 249.
-Ben |
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