pass them along to me at [email protected]. Chasing the freeloaders is getting to be a bigger and bigger part of my time

ARjohnson...thanks

I was a Team Member when I received my FFL last August and began selling on the forum prior to paying for a Dealer Membership. I was called to the table by another reputable Dealer on this site and without delay I invested the $400 (6/mo) and has been the best $400 I spent.

Perhaps the Staff should tack this?

The Dealer Protection Act of 2005

Tom

Quoted: I have noticed alot of dealers on the site who are non paying and most aren't even team members. The reason I post this is I know a few dealers on here who pay the 400.00 to support this great site, I don't think it's fair to them. We should have a dead beat dealers list, if you don't pay, you don't stay.

This seems to be a growing problem.

Well 4 down....

Quoted: Well 4 down....

hangin em high...

5...

Quoted: What about the guys with team memberships but 95%+ of their posts are in the EE forums? They clearly aren't here as enthusiasts.

Boomer, I know, that's always a tough call to make. There've always been guys that basically only came here for the EE. The intent is that it's for selling stuff you have lieing around, not for running an e-bay type side business off of. On the other hand if you stumble across a crate full of old take off m16 furniture at an Army Navy store and get a deal on it and take it home to part it off on the EE and make a couple of bucks on it, good for you. With so many new accounts, and fake accounts, it's tough to week out the e-bay refugees.

Quoted: This one doesn't even know where to post (search member name) ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=17&t=236432

Argh someone already told me about that one and I forgot.

I used to e-mail everyone of them with a "if you are a dealer you need to pay to advertise etc" e-mail, but about 75% of them never answer me (why should they, every day they duck me is another day of free sales) then most of the rest  just say

"Dealer, who me? Nah"
"Um you listed 12 NIB leupold scopes for sale"
"Oh, THOSE!, oh I FOUND those. Yeah I leave cookies by the back door and the elves leave me scopes. Besides I shouldn't have to pay I am only selling this stuff dirt cheap to help everyone else out! Oh did I metion that my kids are starving, I fought in the Spanish American War with Teddy Roosevelt and that you suck?"

Quoted: Quoted: This one doesn't even know where to post (search member name) ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=17&t=236432 Argh someone already told me about that one and I forgot. I used to e-mail everyone of them with a "if you are a dealer you need to pay to advertise etc" e-mail, but about 75% of them never answer me (why should they, every day they duck me is another day of free sales) then most of the rest  just say "Dealer, who me? Nah" "Um you listed 12 NIB leupold scopes for sale" "Oh, THOSE!, oh I FOUND those. Yeah I leave cookies by the back door and the elves leave me scopes. Besides I shouldn't have to pay I am only selling this stuff dirt cheap to help everyone else out! Oh did I metion that my kids are starving, I fought in the Spanish American War with Teddy Roosevelt and that you suck?"

hell you should give him a pass just on the humor factor of that reply

I made that up, but it was sort of based on facts.

taggybump

Free Bump

Quoted: Quoted: What's worst are the individual(s) who sit on the EE 24/7 and snap up any good deals that come along. Then a week later they are selling the very same item(s) at a 40% markup! Shameful. Ya, tapco and cdnn have a sale and people turn around and try selling them here for 4x the money.  Then when you try to say something like "you know tapco is selling that for X" Everybody and their momma is jumping down your neck for stomping on the guy's ad.   When the seller is the one try to screw us?

Yeah you'll get the boot for posting stuff like that.

Quoted: What's worst are the individual(s) who sit on the EE 24/7 and snap up any good deals that come along. Then a week later they are selling the very same item(s) at a 40% markup! Shameful.

I've had several customers who have bought something from us and a week later turn around and sell it higher than what they paid for it.

Quoted: I have noticed alot of dealers on the site who are non paying and most aren't even team members. The reason I post this is I know a few dealers on here who pay the 400.00 to support this great site, I don't think it's fair to them. We should have a dead beat dealers list, if you don't pay, you don't stay.

I ante'd up!!!  My site is Industry......

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I have a question: Does my poker thread make me a "dealer"? Yes, now go in the corner! I'm not paying! Neener, neener!

You've paid enough.  Send complaints to me.

Here s My 2 cents

I am about the Oldest Dealer on the Board . I Believe I was First Dealer to Pay Dealer fees and I helped Goatboy set up Dealer System when it became Clear that for the Board to stay on Line more
funds needed to be taken in to help pay the bills to keep it all going. Goatboy and ED Sr kept
it all going a long time with no fees what so ever coming in.

Yes Its true we need to deal quickly with  freeloaders that sell non personal gear in volume for
profit. The Mods and there a a lot of them now , need to be on lookout for this. And when We
Find them is some cases we should not be inviting them to be a dealer If they were cheating us
to begin with.  ban them.

BUT almost WORSE is the Fraud that goes on .  BRAND switching . that is Cheating the Buyers Some by Non Paying Dealers and some By Dealers.

Example Some GUY LISTED RRA stock kits for About $52 as I remember shipped Priority with 2 springs in the deal Yes two springs . Well Dealer cost on RRA stocks are $60 each plus ship to
get them in a dealers door. There are many Cheapknock offs out there that are made of less quality
This is what this guy was selling. When I had a few e-mails back and forth  he admited that he did not know if they were RRA This  goes on With paid dealers also  Selling STAG ARMS items and not calling
it STAG ARMS. is just one resent example of it. I get buyers all the time that e-mail me saying how
that got ripped off by Brand switching from other dealers like . Cheap China Charge Handles of Parts sets that were sold  as Name Brand stuff .  but were crap. Thanking me for Real RRA Parts That I sent.
The Problem has got so bad RRA had to Buy a laser marking Machine and Now marks Factory Uppers
and Stuff Like A3 Detach handles and plans on marking more of their goods to protect their  good name being used by less than honest dealers.

I also  believe too many Dealers have been added to quickly. There are only so many dealers you can have in one spot selling same BRAND.Before it is no longer possibe to sell at a price that dealers need to sell at to make a go of it.  Some dealers do not have enough $$$$ behind them and when they get many backorders in at once they need to sell extra fast to pay for the stuff
and sometimes sell at just a few dollars over cost. Well that makes it damn hard for legit dealers to
make a Fair Profit when you have a underfunded dealer having a FIRE SALE. So when  you throw in UNPAID Dealers into that mix its EXTRA Hard. So Yes Its VERY Clear that the Mods need To Crack
down HARD on UnPaid Dealers. But also make it Clear to Paid Dealers that They need to use CORRECT
Brand names . List Contact Phone Numbers .Address  and contact person info . We need  to clean this up its overdue.

Thanks


Pete
Legal Transfers