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Posted: 10/8/2004 1:47:17 PM EDT
[#1]
Not this shit again...
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Posted: 10/8/2004 1:52:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/8/2004 1:52:55 PM EDT
[#3]
what am I missing. This a DU trick
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Posted: 10/8/2004 1:56:56 PM EDT
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EDITED... Because tayous1 is in Iraq, apparently, and is thus not to be labeled as "sheeple".
Keep safe tayous1, that link is a real can o' worms, didn't mean to jump on ya. - BG |
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Posted: 10/8/2004 2:04:25 PM EDT
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I may have a low post count, and I may have told myself that I'm going to be civil on these boards, but this BS gets me spun up like no other. I was in the Pentagon that day and the GD aircraft cockpit (what was left of it) and front wheel strut assembly came to rest outside our offices. I was with a team that alerted the FBI and helped them find aircraft parts identifying the plane as an American Airliner within 45 minutes of the attack. I can go on and on - but this is BS. Think about it - a plane going 350-400mph strikes a building and people think they will find it intact? There were thousands of plane parts scattered all over the scene, most were small pieces. There were plenty of large pieces, including the engines, but they were mostly insde the impact area. I'd post pics but the darn photo server doesn't seem to be working right now - must be another conspiracy - also not many pics were released because of the sheer volume of classified information dislodged as a result of the strike and follow-on explosive event due to the jet fuel. I also have tens of dozens of photos.....I need to chill, this will make my eyes bleed.
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Posted: 10/8/2004 2:06:06 PM EDT
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Come on man! Where's your brain!?
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Posted: 10/8/2004 2:06:31 PM EDT
[#7]
hmmm good question?
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Posted: 10/8/2004 2:10:59 PM EDT
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"Scary shit about 9/11"??? How bout almost 3,000 dead here and over 1,000 dead and counting "over there".
But be careful about speaking up against you're government. You could be next... Next to... Have an accident. Die of "natural causes" Have a heart attack Commit suicide in an office where you could eat off the floor it's so clean after your death Be a victom of "Gang Violence" in your suburban neighborhood Chased down by a couple of "Quantico types" in black suburbans who just want "the tape" Shall I continue????????? 
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Posted: 10/8/2004 2:13:11 PM EDT
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Defender3, I feel your pain bud. You and I both know what we personally saw there. This same thing keeps popping up every few months. It made me furious the first few times but I've come to accept that some folks will believe the conspiracy theory over the facts no matter what we say. E-95 |
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Posted: 10/8/2004 2:19:34 PM EDT
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I will be glad to upload the photos to my AR15 server space and give you the links so you can post them. Im me for my email address if interested. |
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Posted: 10/8/2004 2:24:29 PM EDT
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How fucking much of the towers were left after they collapsed????????????and this dipshit thinks that a jet going hundreds of miles an hour hitting a building will be found somewhat intact............................HELLO...................
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Posted: 10/8/2004 2:24:58 PM EDT
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Gentlemen, please let it be known that tayous1 is currently fighting in Iraq
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Posted: 10/8/2004 2:25:59 PM EDT
[#13]
What's scary is that some people are actually stupid and insensisitive enough to keep rehashing bullshit like this.
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Posted: 10/8/2004 2:26:12 PM EDT
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E-95 - I'm there for ya Bro...I remember what your team went through in the building - I still wake up at night sweating sometimes.
Robert2011 - I'm a team member, so I should have space also???? I went to log in but the page would not come up. IM sent though. |
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Posted: 10/8/2004 2:26:50 PM EDT
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Aluminum aircraft doing 400+MPH hitting the ground will result in no more aircraft. Recognizable anyway; just itty-bitty tieeny-tiny peices, with the exception of engines.
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Posted: 10/8/2004 2:27:26 PM EDT
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I'm so glad I have 2 other people here that were also there to help me combat these stupid sites. *edit* Nothing against you tayous, I realize that you are just the messenger. |
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Posted: 10/8/2004 2:30:29 PM EDT
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BB - Just for the record - the plane struck between the first and second floors and did not impact the ground. The right wing struck a diesel fuel tank that serviced the helo pad and started it ablaze.
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Posted: 10/8/2004 2:32:41 PM EDT
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Exactly, there was no direct contact with the ground. There was a glancing blow about a 200 feet from the point of impact. It barely disturbed the grass, on the other hand those street lights along 28 did not fare so well. |
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Posted: 10/8/2004 2:32:54 PM EDT
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I stand corrected...but I don't think it would affect the results.
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Posted: 10/8/2004 2:35:17 PM EDT
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Tayous1 - Thanks for your service and keep your body armor on and your head down!
You should know that the first conspiracy on the Pentagon attack came from a French author who made millions on a book he wrote. French - that should say it all. |
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Posted: 10/8/2004 2:35:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/8/2004 2:36:34 PM EDT
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I'm with you Stillie. Tayous, I agree with Stillie and hold nothing against you on this one. Just be aware that you've got two active duty military and one federal USAR guy that were all at the Pentagon telling you that site is full of inaccuracies and fabrications. Edit: And I also want to thank you for your service. Stay safe! E-95 |
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Posted: 10/8/2004 2:37:02 PM EDT
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BB-didn't mean it that way - sorry
 You're right, at that speed, a little skip or bounce makes no difference.....
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Posted: 10/8/2004 2:45:02 PM EDT
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Stillie - I've got a couple of pics of the street lights down damaging some cars.
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Posted: 10/8/2004 2:49:24 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/8/2004 2:52:13 PM EDT
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Ok, simple experament:
1) Take an empty soda can 2) light a good-sized campfire 3) Throw can in fire What happens? Why, it burns up... That's right ALUMINUM (which is what AIRPLANES are made of) BURNS! |
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Posted: 10/8/2004 2:52:26 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/8/2004 2:55:16 PM EDT
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Thanks for the Info on that my Brother sent me the site so I thought I'd have a look at it. I'm not on this site as much as I was say two and a half years ago and I thought that anyone who could tell me if this was true or not would be all you guys here. I'm right now training to go back to Iraq for the third time so I don't get a lot of time to spend on this site. |
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Posted: 10/8/2004 2:56:10 PM EDT
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Defender3, thanks for your service. Those like you constantly stay in my thoughts and prayers. Danny |
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Posted: 10/8/2004 3:04:56 PM EDT
[#30]
Glad we could help. Once again, thanks for protecting our nation. E-95 |
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Posted: 10/8/2004 3:22:07 PM EDT
[#31]
tayous1…
They did not find the other 3 hijacked planes from 9-11… they did find pieces of all the planes and there are plenty of photos of airplane debris around the Pentagon. As pointed out above aluminum burns at fairly low temperatures. That wing of the Pentagon had just finished a renovation in which it was hardened to protect against attack including large scale explosive attack. When you get an airplane strike on a hardened concrete building the initial type of damage expected is a single hole. The wings of the aircraft tend to fold around the main fuselage and follow the fuselage in to the single hole. There were hundreds of eye witnesses to the airplane hitting the Pentagon. If no Plane hit the Pentagon what happen to the plane that disappeared and the people on it. First thing to remember when getting information on the internet is believe nothing that does not come from a source you know to be reliable and even then verify the information. Thanks for your service, Gods speed and be careful. |
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Posted: 10/8/2004 3:28:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/8/2004 3:29:51 PM EDT
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I love how they have some old (assumed) nazi germany speach in the background.. heh.. reeeeeeeetarrrds. |
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Posted: 10/8/2004 4:37:17 PM EDT
[#34]
OK - Let's see if I can post these shots.
This is a shot of the debris field to the front and left of the impact area. You can see clearly a piece of the American Airliner. All those other small pieces are fragments of the building or plane.  Here's a shot of the debris field that is closer to the impact area. You can see that the impact resulted, except for the cables, in very small fragments.  This last shot is the exit hole the aircraft made in the "C" ring Naval OPS center before coming to rest in A&E Drive. The greenish colored items are aircraft parts from the forward fuselage/cockpit area. What you can't see in the hole is a bad guy still strapped into a seat.  Thanks to everyone who offered to host and help. |
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Posted: 10/8/2004 4:43:22 PM EDT
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You mean 27, Washington Blvd., right??? Rt. 28 runs between Sterling and Manassas...BTW, I used to work at the Pentagon...  |
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Posted: 10/8/2004 5:03:41 PM EDT
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¿Anybody got a link to the recent thread showing the F4 that they put on the track and accelerated into the concrete wall? How much was left of the jet?? Now, WTF do you think happened to that airliner???
It vaporized in the same way!! wganz ¶ |
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Posted: 10/8/2004 5:29:23 PM EDT
[#37]
Defender3,
Excellent photos. They're all new to me. I have a photo of my brother and I in the exit hole in the C ring but by the time we showed up all the debris in the serviceway was cleared (including the bad guy). That one landing gear strut was still in the rubble just inside the hole though. E-95 |
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Posted: 10/8/2004 5:44:25 PM EDT
[#38]
I sure would like to see more pics if possible. Especially of the bad guy and the landing gear. Thanks, Defender3 for allowing us to see those.
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Posted: 10/8/2004 6:46:58 PM EDT
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The name of the video is concreteplane1.wmv It shows up in a Google search. Here is one: http://69.93.149.132/files/concreteplane1.wmv |
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Posted: 10/9/2004 11:16:27 AM EDT
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Sorry - won't post any more pictures. Learned that lesson the hard way when armchair assholes used the pictures to propose all sorts of "theories." I'm not going through that again - some people just sit and type crap for their pleasure.
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Posted: 10/9/2004 11:31:52 AM EDT
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That does not make make what he posted any less of a steaming pile of bullshit. That said, keep safe tayous1, and thank you for your sacrifice. |
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Posted: 10/9/2004 11:35:11 AM EDT
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You got that one right. Just food for thought, if we didn't have numerous independant videos of the planes flying into the WTC, how many of the tin-foil-hat crowd would be saying that the towers fell because of something OTHER than a plane, and crying that there were to planes involved to begin with and that this was all a power grab by the bush administration etc etc etc Excuse me, I'm going to go  now. Pretending to be a DUh'er for even a short time makes me sick.
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Posted: 10/9/2004 11:39:22 AM EDT
[#43]
I'll second that one. People also still think that the Pentagon was struck by an errant military missile...
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Posted: 10/9/2004 3:40:04 PM EDT
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Don't think that will stop them. About four or five months ago there was some idiot convinced that the towers came down because of pre-rigged explosives. I posted numerous arguments outlining structural steel performance in heavy fire conditions. However, he refused to believe anything but his own misguided theories. E-95 |
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Posted: 10/9/2004 4:18:32 PM EDT
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Ya think that qualifies for an armchair asshole?
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Posted: 10/9/2004 4:21:52 PM EDT
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Dear Moderators…
…please immidiatly lock the account of ANYONE who posts this link again and make the world a better place! ANdy |
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Posted: 10/9/2004 6:21:32 PM EDT
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So tell me when they should lock up your account arm chair commando??? |
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Posted: 10/9/2004 6:22:10 PM EDT
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That will just hide the facts from them and others. It is far better to let them post it and get these pictures posted in response and set them and MANY others straight. I read the "no-airplane, missile theory" websites a few months ago when I first saw them posted here. Then I visited the debunker sites. The one thing I never saw was actual pictures of aircraft wreckage. I think AR15.com is the first place any such pictures have been posted. I would not mind seeing them tacked, perhaps in the history forum. Many thanks to Defender3 for the pictures. |
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Posted: 10/10/2004 2:12:19 AM EDT
[#49]
Just as soon as this 'Armchair Commando' retires from the Royal Navy…in another 6 years ANdy |
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Posted: 10/10/2004 2:26:44 AM EDT
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I dont Know What to belive All I know is that Al-Gore Invented the internet.
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