Choose your obsolete but classy carry piece.

Choose your obsolete but classy carry piece. (Page 1 of 3)

Nickel_Plated Joined Feb 2014 Posts 3942 EE 0% (0) PA, USA	Posted: 5/8/2024 8:47:54 PM EDT [Last Edit: Nickel_Plated] If you had to choose between these two for a classy, albeit, admittedly obsolete carry gun, which would it be? A Smith & Wesson Model 36 2" .38 Special rated for +P or A Walther PPK, in .380ACP? No you can't pick a P365XXXL with reddot and 87-round mag.

Max429 Exited Joined Nov 2000 Posts 28199 EE 0% (0) MI, USA	Posted: 5/8/2024 8:49:39 PM EDT [#1] Smith.

Explorer225 Joined Dec 2022 Posts 4133 EE 0% (0) KY, USA	Posted: 5/8/2024 8:49:52 PM EDT [#2] No contest 36 for sure. I carried a 642 for years and I hate the hard trigger on the Walther.

rDigital Member Joined May 2010 Posts 1743 EE 100% (8) OH, USA	Posted: 5/8/2024 8:50:56 PM EDT [Last Edit: rDigital] [#3] HK USP 45, Edit Read the rules. The wheel gun gets the vote. PPK is hot garbage and hurts my hands to shoot.

glenn_r low-speed high-drag Joined Dec 2002 Posts 6479 EE 100% (192) WI, USA	Posted: 5/8/2024 8:51:01 PM EDT [#4] False premise--the 36 isn't obsolete.
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Lungbuster weather-eyed shooter Joined Feb 2009 Posts 16563 EE 100% (1) ID, USA	Posted: 5/8/2024 8:51:19 PM EDT [#6] 1911
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9divdoc Member Joined Mar 2001 Posts 136678 EE 100% (121) WI, USA	Posted: 5/8/2024 8:52:33 PM EDT [#7] Detonics Pocket Nine
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KeithStone Who Want's a Mustache Ride Joined Feb 2012 Posts 4290 EE 100% (59) USA	Posted: 5/8/2024 8:54:20 PM EDT [#8] Quote History Originally Posted By Max429: Smith View Quote FPNI

Hesperus We will softly slip away. Joined Jan 2014 Posts 34583 EE 100% (6) ID, USA	Posted: 5/8/2024 8:56:03 PM EDT [#9] Of the 2. The PPK, unless the Smith is chrome plated. Would a CZ-75 Pre B qualify as obsolete? It's kinda old.
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radioshooter Joined Nov 2006 Posts 2923 EE 0% (0) SC, USA	Posted: 5/8/2024 8:56:48 PM EDT [#10] I've carried a Colt Mustang 380 as a CCW, but not a small revolver. Voted for the 380 as the Devil I Know vs the Devil I Don't Know.

Sputnik556 The voices in my head say I’m just being paranoid Joined Oct 2013 Posts 39368 EE 100% (110) KY, USA	Posted: 5/8/2024 8:57:22 PM EDT [Last Edit: Sputnik556] [#11] PPK. I’ve never owned a DA revolver in my life and I do own a PPK/S, so the PPK makes infinitely more sense.
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NVCapCop Member Joined Jul 2007 Posts 13862 EE 100% (209) USA	Posted: 5/8/2024 8:59:39 PM EDT [#12] HKP7 > PPK

Efl15 Joined Jan 2019 Posts 17245 EE 0% (0) USA	Posted: 5/8/2024 9:00:35 PM EDT [#13] PPK because of James Bond.

jollyg83 Member Joined Oct 2002 Posts 13403 EE 100% (1) VA, USA	Posted: 5/8/2024 9:01:17 PM EDT [#14] Quote History Originally Posted By glenn_r: False premise--the 36 isn't obsolete. View Quote This. I shoot my father in law’s just as dead nuts accurate as I can my Glock 30. Somehow my Glock 19 that I EDC isn’t as accurate but close enough for government work, as they say.

MHowski Count up all your mistakes Joined Oct 2017 Posts 10527 EE 0% (0) PA, USA	Posted: 5/8/2024 9:02:35 PM EDT [#15] Colt Mustang

GarandM1 Joined Apr 2007 Posts 63792 EE 0% (0) UT, USA	Posted: 5/8/2024 9:03:43 PM EDT [#16] Quote History Originally Posted By Max429: Smith. View Quote

308Sako Joined Jan 2006 Posts 6395 EE 100% (3) NV, USA	Posted: 5/8/2024 9:04:45 PM EDT [#17] Carried both for years, well the Walther, but the 36 left me feeling empty before I began...

Prijador Joined Mar 2013 Posts 9381 EE 0% (0) MI, USA	Posted: 5/8/2024 9:05:20 PM EDT [#18] S&W 3913

servicepuke1 Joined Sep 2011 Posts 1501 EE 0% (0) FL, USA	Posted: 5/8/2024 9:05:20 PM EDT [#19] PPK Also a Beretta Jetfire. My mother gave both to me, she carried the Jetfire as her church gun. I usually carry the PPK, no malfunctions in either, she had some mods done to the PPK (feed ramp, I think).

GLOCKshooter Member Joined Jan 2001 Posts 14751 EE 100% (13) GA, USA	Posted: 5/8/2024 9:05:37 PM EDT [#20] P365XXXL with reddot and 87-round mag
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HRJ NorCal Callsign: Warbird Joined Jan 2013 Posts 7153 EE 0% (0) TX, USA	Posted: 5/8/2024 9:05:46 PM EDT [#21] Why is HK4 missing from the pole?
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bdover Member Joined Feb 2017 Posts 3749 EE 100% (129) OH, USA	Posted: 5/8/2024 9:06:46 PM EDT [#22] Quote History Originally Posted By JLPettimoreIII: BHP View Quote Yeah. This is the real answer.

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Posted: 5/8/2024 9:07:15 PM EDT

[#23]

Originally Posted By Nickel_Plated:
If you had to choose between these two for a classy, albeit, admittedly obsolete carry gun, which would it be?

A Smith & Wesson Model 36 2" .38 Special rated for +P

or A Walther PPK, in .380ACP?

No you can't pick a P365XXXL with reddot and 87-round mag.

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Easy answer for me-a gun I already had and sold. I just never shot it, an H&K P7M8 with Trijicon night sights in a nice Don Hume holster.

Wish I could have justified keeping it but I just couldn’t see holding on to the gun when somoene else who might enjoy it more could have it and use it. I miss it.

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cmw Member Joined Dec 2008 Posts 5228 EE 100% (69) USA	Posted: 5/8/2024 9:09:07 PM EDT [#25] Quote History Originally Posted By 9divdoc: Detonics Pocket Nine View Quote Good answer
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LurchAddams Member Joined May 2007 Posts 50610 EE 100% (28) USA	Posted: 5/8/2024 9:09:07 PM EDT [#26] Sig P230
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Joe_Pennsy There are four lights Joined Dec 2002 Posts 22669 EE 100% (93) PA, USA	Posted: 5/8/2024 9:13:50 PM EDT [Last Edit: Joe_Pennsy] [#27] Classy carry gun:
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akethan 343 Joined Sep 2001 Posts 45756 EE 100% (295) IN, USA	Posted: 5/8/2024 9:14:21 PM EDT [#28] PPKs are trash
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alacop Member Joined Jul 2011 Posts 5934 EE 100% (44) AL, USA	Posted: 5/8/2024 9:16:44 PM EDT [#29] Quote History Originally Posted By akethan: PPKs are trash View Quote Not if you thumb cock the first shot.

warkittens Bored, Certified, Phrenologist Joined May 2011 Posts 10794 EE 100% (21) GA, USA	Posted: 5/8/2024 9:18:30 PM EDT [#30] Quote History Originally Posted By glenn_r: False premise--the 36 isn't obsolete. View Quote This. I often carry a S&W 37, which is the same as the 36 except with an aluminum frame for lighter weight. It's a really good pistol and I've got around a thousand trouble-free rounds through it. .38 Special > .380
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SiVisPacem RIP strat81 Joined Apr 2010 Posts 27010 EE 100% (329) USA	Posted: 5/8/2024 9:19:19 PM EDT [#31] Well, I have two 2" S&W Model 36's sitting in the safe, along with a 3" 36-1 and 13 other J-frames, so I'll go with the 36.
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Action45 Member Joined Oct 2006 Posts 24142 EE 100% (103) FL, USA	Posted: 5/8/2024 9:20:30 PM EDT [#32] PPK trigger pull and slide bite are awful

Kodiak-AK Joined Feb 2004 Posts 19350 EE 100% (45) AK, USA	Posted: 5/8/2024 9:20:32 PM EDT [#33] It depends. Will I be wearing a tailored tuxedo or an off the rack suit?

Bellows1 Who me? Joined Mar 2015 Posts 13254 EE 100% (16) USA	Posted: 5/8/2024 9:23:17 PM EDT [#34] Walther PP in 32acp.
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hbilly Joined May 2011 Posts 11853 EE 100% (30) USA	Posted: 5/8/2024 9:24:37 PM EDT [#35] s&w heavy duty

badkarmaiii Joined Feb 2009 Posts 5306 EE 0% (0) NM, USA	Posted: 5/8/2024 9:26:25 PM EDT [#36] I've carried a hard chrome P7M8 in a rig of black elephant with alligator trim. Have also carried a Detonics MkVI in plain leather. Wouldn't trade either for my P365XL in kydex.

10mmillie Joined Aug 2001 Posts 13302 EE 100% (214) TX, USA	Posted: 5/8/2024 9:29:39 PM EDT [#37] Snubby though I don’t believe it to be obsolete.

Solo_ Anti-Communist Joined Dec 2012 Posts 9536 EE 100% (12) FL, USA	Posted: 5/8/2024 9:44:44 PM EDT [Last Edit: Solo_] [#38] The proper caliber for a PPK was .32ACP, not .380ACP .32ACP was the original and optimal caliber. It's a joy to shoot mine in that caliber, a torture to shoot it in .380 (I've had 10) My '65 collectible PPK in .380ACP (sold). I still have my .32ACP PPK, always from '65 '65 PPK with '68 watch by Solo__, on Flickr

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tc556guy Member Joined Dec 2004 Posts 104707 EE 100% (4) NY, USA	Posted: 5/8/2024 9:46:45 PM EDT [Last Edit: tc556guy] [#40] I would go for the 38 Why would anyone pick the inferior caliber?
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safes2small Member Joined Jul 2006 Posts 6380 EE 100% (141) IN, USA	Posted: 5/8/2024 9:46:50 PM EDT [#41] I wouldn’t buy either. My obsolete carry gun is a 686+

Glock63 Member Joined Mar 2001 Posts 12794 EE 100% (113) SD, USA	Posted: 5/8/2024 9:47:32 PM EDT [Last Edit: Glock63] [#42] Series 70 nickel combat commander. Not particularly obsolete, but the oldest pistol I own I'd consider carrying. For your poll, the 38.
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Gator Member of the PC Master Race Joined Nov 2000 Posts 40070 EE 100% (6) TX, USA	Posted: 5/8/2024 9:49:13 PM EDT [#43] Quote History Originally Posted By Efl15: PPK because of James Bond. View Quote This, PPK wins for classy. .38 Special I'm thinking the bois' bar blaster from the trailer park.
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Hesperus We will softly slip away. Joined Jan 2014 Posts 34584 EE 100% (6) ID, USA	Posted: 5/8/2024 10:01:45 PM EDT [#44] Quote History Originally Posted By Kodiak-AK: It depends. Will I be wearing a tailored tuxedo or an off the rack suit? View Quote Off the rack. Budget has been cut to next to nothing. Oh and instead of facing off against a billionaires private security in this scenario you will be trying to defeat a dozen badly inbred rural thugs.
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sparkyfender2 Member Joined Mar 2014 Posts 18493 EE 100% (5) IN, USA	Posted: 5/8/2024 10:16:11 PM EDT [#45] S&W 36. I at times carry a gun that is "outdated" but still works. Attached File

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Posted: 5/8/2024 10:20:51 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By Solo_:
The proper caliber for a PPK was .32ACP, not .380ACP

.32ACP was the original and optimal caliber. It's a joy to shoot mine in that caliber, a torture to shoot it in .380 (I've had 10)

My '65 collectible PPK in .380ACP (sold). I still have my .32ACP PPK, always from '65

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52365541962_70b3095f4c_k.jpg '65 PPK with '68 watch by Solo__, on Flickr

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What he said. The blowback PPK in .380 is not the way. It works very well in .32

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ExFed1811 Joined Apr 2024 Posts 341 EE 0% (0) MS, USA	Posted: 5/8/2024 10:21:59 PM EDT [#47] You left out 1911 in 38 Super.

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Posted: 5/8/2024 10:23:43 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By Explorer225:
No contest 36 for sure. I carried a 642 for years and I hate the hard trigger on the Walther.

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Ditto. I regularly carry a lady smith in 357 and would have no issues carrying a 36 with good 38's. I would want aftermarket grips but even with stock ones I'm ok with it compared to the PPK.
Now, if I don't have to CARRY it, and I can pick an early era PPK in great condition? I'd rather have that because it really is a classy little gun. I just wouldn't consider it a primary choice for carry. I don't wear fitted tuxedos regularly, I can conceal something with a bit more oomph and reliability.

smokycity Joined Feb 2001 Posts 13510 EE 100% (1) FL, USA	Posted: 5/8/2024 10:24:31 PM EDT [#49] Model-60 for me, please.

mleaky Joined Feb 2001 Posts 5859 EE 100% (25) AZ, USA	Posted: 5/8/2024 10:25:33 PM EDT [Last Edit: mleaky] [#50] HK P7 PSP

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