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Posted: 3/29/2024 9:25:59 AM EDT
They are planning on Red Flagging anyone who uses firearms in self defense.
They prefer you should be a helpless victim. Beware! |
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Quoted: They are planning on Red Flagging anyone who They prefer you should be a helpless victim. Beware! View Quote Fixed |
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...anyone they don't like or anyone that says anything they don't like.
Non-gun owners probably think they are safe. Wait until they get their homes torn up searching for non-existent weapons. |
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Quoted: ...anyone they don't like or anyone that says anything they don't like. Non-gun owners probably think they are safe. Wait until they get their homes torn up searching for non-existent weapons. View Quote Mostly this. There's some argument for "an unarmed society is a subservient society", but at the end of the day I think the main reason is they believe they should get to make all the rules, and resistance from us lesser beings infuriates them. |
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What could possibly go wrong when folks are denied their rights without due process?
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Quoted: They are planning on Red Flagging anyone who uses firearms in self defense. They prefer you should be a helpless victim. Beware! View Quote You don't have to use firearms to be red flagged. It's about going after gun owners just for having them. |
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I believe that the Democrats intend to make it easy for anyone to red flag a gun owner, no matter how thin the connection between the accuser and accused. I believe that what they intend to follow in this environment is the broad use of red flag laws against political rivals, mainly “MAGA Americans”, in a campaign to disarm and punish (by process) anyone who opposes them.
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Because they are commies and they don't want any pushback from their subjects when they decide to do commie things.
They want the monopoly on violence. And criminals are their useful idiots. |
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Quoted: It's not just Democrats. It's also RINOs. View Quote "RINOs".... do you mean the overwhelming majority of politicians identifying as "republican"? Mk1 Mod0 republicans literally take turns screwing you over to just barely pass shitty legislation to infringe on your rights for decades now. How long do you let them shit on you before you realize they're mostly vile swamp things and abandon them? |
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Dem logic:
red flag all mentally ill. to own a gun you must be mentally ill. red flag all gun owners. |
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Waiting for red flag laws to hit SCOTUS. How can a law be constitutional that goes against two different amendments for no prosecution and no guilty verdict. No crime charged or found guilty, yet they can seize property without due process and violate the second amendment as well.
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Quoted: Waiting for red flag laws to hit SCOTUS. How can a law be constitutional that goes against two different amendments for no prosecution and no guilty verdict. No crime charged or found guilty, yet they can seize property without due process and violate the second amendment as well. View Quote |
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Quoted: They are planning on Red Flagging anyone who uses firearms in self defense. They prefer you should be a helpless victim. Beware! View Quote |
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Quoted: "RINOs".... do you mean the overwhelming majority of politicians identifying as "republican"? Mk1 Mod0 republicans literally take turns screwing you over to just barely pass shitty legislation to infringe on your rights for decades now. How long do you let them shit on you before you realize they're mostly vile swamp things and abandon them? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: It's not just Democrats. It's also RINOs. "RINOs".... do you mean the overwhelming majority of politicians identifying as "republican"? Mk1 Mod0 republicans literally take turns screwing you over to just barely pass shitty legislation to infringe on your rights for decades now. How long do you let them shit on you before you realize they're mostly vile swamp things and abandon them? I don't let them. If they shit on my rights I show them the door. Not enough people do the same. |
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Yet those pushing for and making the laws have plenty of armed security. Funny how that is...
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They want to disarm as many people as they can, it is the nature of government. Many on the right are happy to go along too.
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Clearly crazy people need to be disarmed. Only crazy people think they need a gun therefore all gun owners are crazy and need to be disarmed.
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Quoted: I believe that the Democrats intend to make it easy for anyone to red flag a gun owner, no matter how thin the connection between the accuser and accused. I believe that what they intend to follow in this environment is the broad use of red flag laws against political rivals, mainly “MAGA Americans”, in a campaign to disarm and punish (by process) anyone who opposes them. View Quote I agree this is their ultimate goal. |
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Wait till they get “common sense speech” control and tie it in with this.
Then wait till they get all of our posts retroactively. |
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Quoted: They are building toward anyone over 65 turning in their guns. Then lowering it to 60, 55, etc. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: They are planning on Red Flagging anyone who uses firearms in self defense. They prefer you should be a helpless victim. Beware! Yeah, that was a pretty nasty part of their plans. Disarm people over a certain age. They keep trying to push the age to be able to acquire higher also. 18 is too young, you have to be 21 now. I could see them wanting to use "SCIENCE!" and make it around 27 because the brain doesn't fully mature to around that time. |
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We need to be working on funding and hiring lawyers to fight these laws. If there are already 36 victims of this law in Michigan then we have 36 potential challengers to its constitutionality.
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Quoted: https://img.ifunny.co/images/226aca442c765a00192d2ed5e2ffa283b32246a18e8087f6cb91e91158113082_1.jpg Seems some of us have been down this road before ... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: https://img.ifunny.co/images/226aca442c765a00192d2ed5e2ffa283b32246a18e8087f6cb91e91158113082_1.jpg Seems some of us have been down this road before ... Too bad ironhandjohn ain't with us anymore. |
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The closer we approach economic/financial collapse, the more desperate they become for no 2A.
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The future of hardware bans is in doubt. If you can’t ban guns then control who can own them. Purchase permits, licensing, registration, red flag laws. Rahimi should provide some clarity
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Watch anti gun prosecutors fly red flags on thin or no evidence as an excuse to seize guns. That they have no plan to return and go to the chopper as quickly as the machines can be started.
Their standard response will amount to, "too bad, we believe you are a (unconvicted) threat." |
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You can be denied your second amendment rights simply based on an accusation without due process of law. Just a bag door attempt at confiscation.
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Quoted: You can be denied your second amendment rights simply based on an accusation without due process of law. Just a bag door attempt at confiscation. View Quote As we saw in Vermont you can be red flagged and have your guns seized even when the accusation is about someone else. https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Did-Vermont-violate-their-own-Red-Flag-Law-to-confiscate-guns? |
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Banker: If you want to buy a house or car you're going to have to give up those guns sir because this bank is not doing business with you.
Loan applicant: Huh? Banker: Yes, according to your ESG score we see you routinely purchased both duck and deer hunting licenses and we see you rent a cabin up north during the season. You do business with Brownells, PSA, and LaRue Tactical and even donated to the GOA. None of that is in alignment with our bank's peace, sunshine, and bigger government policy. Now move on. Next ... Banker turns to an LGBTQWTGFBBQ+/- Banker: "Yes it appears your memberships in several victim groups was verified and you qualified for the government subsidized loan rate" Bet me. I dare you. There's going to be a whole government industry gathering personal ESG scores and verifying victim group membership. |
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Quoted: Banker: If you want to buy a house or car you're going to have to give up those guns sir because this bank is not doing business with you. Loan applicant: Huh? Banker: Yes, according to your ESG score we see you routinely purchased both duck and deer hunting licenses and we see you rent a cabin up north during the season. You do business with Brownells, PSA, and LaRue Tactical and even donated to the GOA. None of that is in alignment with our bank's peace, sunshine, and bigger government policy. Now move on. Next ... Banker turns to an LGBTQWTGFBBQ+/- Banker: "Yes it appears your memberships in several victim groups was verified and you qualified for the government subsidized loan rate" Bet me. I dare you. There's going to be a whole government industry gathering personal ESG scores and verifying victim group membership. View Quote That's the goal. |
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I have the tale of two states here in Louisiana. Senator Kennedy is a national treasure. Any time a communist nominee gets in front of him his standard two questions: 1) what is a woman and 2) can you tell me what an assault rifle is?
Senator Cassidy makes a RINO look conservative. Both of them are R’s |
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Law Enforcements, US Military, SS, Politicians and their bodyguards are they exempt with the Red Flag law?
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Quoted: ...anyone they don't like or anyone that says anything they don't like. Non-gun owners probably think they are safe. Wait until they get their homes torn up searching for non-existent weapons. View Quote |
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