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Posted: 7/19/2017 4:50:09 PM EDT
Looked up the laws of commie commie and says you can't even transport unloaded pistol unless traveling to range or hunting. What a peice of shit state but have to bring woman to beach.
Should I just bring #2 pencil? Prolly illegal too |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 4:56:40 PM EDT
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Play it safe and leave it at home to avoid possible legal entanglements. My brother is also leery about bringing his pistol to Cali for vacation next month, and he is a federal agent!
 
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Posted: 7/19/2017 5:03:40 PM EDT
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Do you intend to tell someone if they ask?
Unless you do something VERY stupid, your chances of speaking to anyone about it are slim. |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 5:14:25 PM EDT
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Your choice, but I would leave it at home. The risk seems to outweigh the reward. YMMV.
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Posted: 7/19/2017 5:15:22 PM EDT
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I took mine last time I went. Just kept it unloaded in the suitcase until I got to the hotel.
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Posted: 7/19/2017 5:15:47 PM EDT
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I just wouldn't go to Cali
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Posted: 7/19/2017 5:16:35 PM EDT
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I just wouldn't go to Cali |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 5:16:47 PM EDT
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Take a good blade and leave the pistol at home.
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Posted: 7/19/2017 5:18:28 PM EDT
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I always do. I've got one of those small handgun safes just big enough for one handgun and a mag or two. Not much bigger than a book. Keep the gun unloaded. Loaded mag is ok inside the safe with it.
I keep it under the seat while driving. That use to be legal as a few years ago. I hope it still is. I'm sure a CA member can confirm. I'd take a Glock 27 or 1911. No mags over 10 rounds. |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 5:18:52 PM EDT
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I just wouldn't go to Cali |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 5:19:23 PM EDT
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Lock it on a box with unloaded mags. Have ammo separate.
Make sure your pistol does not have a threaded barrel and no mags over 10 rounds. If you have a 1911 you'd be pretty safe. I flew with my glock 19 into Chicago O'Hare a couple weeks ago and left from O'Hare with my checked 19 with no problems. |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 5:20:14 PM EDT
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But you will be going to a range to shoot at some point right?
Better have 10rnd mags to bring. |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 5:22:23 PM EDT
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I always do. I've got one of those small handgun safes just big enough for one handgun and a mag or two. Not much bigger than a book. Keep the gun unloaded. Loaded mag is ok inside the safe with it. I keep it under the seat while driving. That use to be legal as a few years ago. I hope it still is. I'm sure a CA member can confirm. I'd take a Glock 27 or 1911. No mags over 10 rounds. Center console and glovebox are not considered a locked case. |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 5:22:45 PM EDT
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I always do. I've got one of those small handgun safes just big enough for one handgun and a mag or two. Not much bigger than a book. Keep the gun unloaded. Loaded mag is ok inside the safe with it. I keep it under the seat while driving. That use to be legal as a few years ago. I hope it still is. I'm sure a CA member can confirm. I'd take a Glock 27 or 1911. No mags over 10 rounds. |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 5:22:48 PM EDT
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Not entering that state is the easiest way to avoid this problem.
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Posted: 7/19/2017 5:23:35 PM EDT
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Looked up the laws of commie commie and says you can't even transport unloaded pistol unless traveling to range or hunting. What a peice of shit state but have to bring woman to beach.
Should I just bring #2 pencil? Prolly illegal too Carry it in a locked container (doesn't have to be a case by any means; backpack compartment with the zippers held closed by a lock would suffice, or something else soft like that). The gun has to be unloaded, but you can have your loaded mags with you, whether in the same compartment or container as the gun or in a different one, as you prefer, and if they are stored separately, they don't need to be locked (you could carry them on your person if you wanted to). Don't bring in mags with a capacity larger than 10 rounds (a larger capacity mag blocked to 10 is okay) and don't bring in a pistol with a threaded barrel or which otherwise might run afoul of the assault weapons ban (most should not). |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 5:25:30 PM EDT
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Handguns in cars must be in a locked case or compartment separate from ammo. If the gun is in the passenger compartment it must be in locked case. If in the trunk just in a bag is ok. Center console and glovebox are not considered a locked case. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I always do. I've got one of those small handgun safes just big enough for one handgun and a mag or two. Not much bigger than a book. Keep the gun unloaded. Loaded mag is ok inside the safe with it. I keep it under the seat while driving. That use to be legal as a few years ago. I hope it still is. I'm sure a CA member can confirm. I'd take a Glock 27 or 1911. No mags over 10 rounds. Center console and glovebox are not considered a locked case. |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 5:25:33 PM EDT
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Just bring a pointed stick,
But you better check the local pointed stick regs first |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 5:29:30 PM EDT
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I fly with a pelican case and a simple 3 number lock. No keys to worry about.
Having a pistol in case Cali goes to shit is better than nothing. GD thinks we can only defend ourselves with CA DOJ approved sharp sticks but again, no threaded barrels, no mags over 10 rounds keep the gun locked and ammo separate you will be fine. If SHTF you can load up in your hotel or pull over and load up to GTFO. |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 5:34:45 PM EDT
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When I drive or fly to visit my folks in Southern California. I'll bring my 1911 with me along with at least 4 to 6 ten round mags.
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Posted: 7/19/2017 5:37:17 PM EDT
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I left mine at home last summer when I visited my brother in the Bay Area, and, oddly enough, I didn't miss it. We even attended a Black Lives Matter rally in Oakland, and didn't feel threatened enough to want it.
*For the record, the rally was happening between the restaurant where we had dinner, and his apartment.* |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 5:38:21 PM EDT
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I once heard of a man who traveled through CA with terrible things in his trunk. He never left the interstate and drove straight through without ever stopping. IDK that it would mean anything to you, or even if it was an urban legend. Probably was as no man would do those things.
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Posted: 7/19/2017 5:41:15 PM EDT
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You might be thinking of assault weapon transport laws, because that isn't the law with respect to pistols. Carry it in a locked container (doesn't have to be a case by any means; backpack compartment with the zippers held closed by a lock would suffice, or something else soft like that). The gun has to be unloaded, but you can have your loaded mags with you, whether in the same compartment or container as the gun or in a different one, as you prefer, and if they are stored separately, they don't need to be locked (you could carry them on your person if you wanted to). Don't bring in mags with a capacity larger than 10 rounds (a larger capacity mag blocked to 10 is okay) and don't bring in a pistol with a threaded barrel or which otherwise might run afoul of the assault weapons ban (most should not). |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 5:41:47 PM EDT
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Ammo does not need to be separate. This is commonly stated, but remains wrong. The firearm itself just needs to be unloaded. |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 5:42:50 PM EDT
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I had to drive to CA last month. Pistols were in a locked case, magazines in a backpack, both in the back of the vehicle. I unloaded when I stopped for gas in Yuma and did the opposite once I left CA. My asshole survived.
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Posted: 7/19/2017 5:43:45 PM EDT
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You said "beach".
I would take into account where you are going and what you are doing. I wouldn't take a gun if I'm going swimming in the surf, and I'm not sure I'd risk leaving it in the car. I've never been searched by police living in CA for the last 50 odd years. My car was twice searched by Border Patrol, but they didn't take second notice of my guns or check the capacity of my mags. I do generally try to obey the law when I know I'm going through BP checkpoints, however. Also, illegal carry is usually not a felony and you should get the firearm back later. A compact Glock might be a good choice, not such a loss if the police take it and don't return it. |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 5:45:20 PM EDT
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While true, if you want to avoid a hassle by some LEO who have their personal interpretations and don't appreciate you holding up your cell phone and showing them the language of the laws it's a way to avoid a headache in coastal California like Los Angeles or San Francisco but if your in a red county or town like Bakersfield or Redding then you're less likely to experience this. OP is going to the beach, I assume he's dealing with coastal California and north of Oceanside its generally pretty pro gun control from the populace to the police |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 5:45:35 PM EDT
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I left mine at home last summer when I visited my brother in the Bay Area, and, oddly enough, I didn't miss it. We even attended a Black Lives Matter rally in Oakland, and didn't feel threatened enough to want it. *For the record, the rally was happening between the restaurant where we had dinner, and his apartment.*  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 5:46:14 PM EDT
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I took mine last time I went. Just kept it unloaded in the suitcase until I got to the hotel. |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 5:47:15 PM EDT
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I left mine at home last summer when I visited my brother in the Bay Area, and, oddly enough, I didn't miss it. We even attended a Black Lives Matter rally in Oakland, and didn't feel threatened enough to want it. *For the record, the rally was happening between the restaurant where we had dinner, and his apartment.* |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 5:48:17 PM EDT
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There are beaches in other places, just in case you weren't clear on that.
But yeah, I'd leave it at home. |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 5:48:22 PM EDT
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I just wouldn't go to Cali 
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Posted: 7/19/2017 5:50:40 PM EDT
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When I have to go to this place and am usually driving, which means I had to go through Canada. There I do not travel with pistols. However I do travel with a short barrel(legal length) pump action shot gun and a lever action 44 Mag rifle. No issue with either one of these!
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Posted: 7/19/2017 5:52:34 PM EDT
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Looked up the laws of commie commie and says you can't even transport unloaded pistol unless traveling to range or hunting. What a peice of shit state but have to bring woman to beach.
Should I just bring #2 pencil? Prolly illegal too Aw, internet research skills are well developed. Want help with a map too or just going to drive west til the car is wet? Oh yeah, pics? |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 5:55:02 PM EDT
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Grand Avenue? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG-1523-258092.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I left mine at home last summer when I visited my brother in the Bay Area, and, oddly enough, I didn't miss it. We even attended a Black Lives Matter rally in Oakland, and didn't feel threatened enough to want it. *For the record, the rally was happening between the restaurant where we had dinner, and his apartment.* There was a "Flat Earther" on the periphery, and he was hilarious. A young black guy in a wheelchair, his chair festooned with big banners explaining why a spherical planet was incorrect. "THE EARTH IS FLAT!!!!!" is what he screamed through a bullhorn the entire time of the rally, and it pissed off everyone within earshot. |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 5:56:28 PM EDT
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I always do. I've got one of those small handgun safes just big enough for one handgun and a mag or two. Not much bigger than a book. Keep the gun unloaded. Loaded mag is ok inside the safe with it. I keep it under the seat while driving. That use to be legal as a few years ago. I hope it still is. I'm sure a CA member can confirm. I'd take a Glock 27 or 1911. No mags over 10 rounds. 
Last time, I ended up just taking the G43, though. I'd love to see national reciprocity passed, but I doubt that will ever happen. |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 6:00:15 PM EDT
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Take a good blade and leave the pistol at home. |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 6:02:39 PM EDT
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I would bring a J frame
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Posted: 7/19/2017 6:10:43 PM EDT
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just got back from San Diego - highly recommend the USS Midway Museum & the Maritime Museum. Took my ever faithful glock 27 in 40S&W. Just unload it and lock it when you hit the border.
I rather have a gun in a safe or trunk I can get to then no gun at all. |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 6:10:44 PM EDT
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Just take a rape whistle
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Posted: 7/19/2017 6:12:55 PM EDT
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Just store seperate from the boolits in a locked container...
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Posted: 7/19/2017 6:14:50 PM EDT
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As long as its locked in the trunk I wouldn't worry about it.
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Posted: 7/19/2017 6:18:54 PM EDT
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Can you bring a concealed taser into the state?
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Posted: 7/19/2017 6:33:01 PM EDT
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No, it was last July in Frank Ogawa Plaza downtown. It was amusing to me, so we stuck around and listened for awhile. You'd think that if mass communication was the goal of the rally, then they would have brought in a PA system that didn't suck. The speakers all sounded like variations of Charlie Brown's teacher, and I was only standing 50-60 yards away from them. There was a "Flat Earther" on the periphery, and he was hilarious. A young black guy in a wheelchair, his chair festooned with big banners explaining why a spherical planet was incorrect. "THE EARTH IS FLAT!!!!!" is what he screamed through a bullhorn the entire time of the rally, and it pissed off everyone within earshot.  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 6:40:48 PM EDT
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I live here and loaded magazines with unloaded pistol in a locked container is legal as long as you do not import +10 round magazines/no threaded barrels etc. See below:
CA Firearms wikipedia PC§ 25610. When being transported, handguns must be unloaded and in a locked fully enclosed container other than the glove box or any console attached to the vehicle. The trunk of a car is considered to be a locked container but a glove box or "utility box" is specifically forbidden. If one believes he or she is within a "gun-free school zone" (area surrounding 1,000 feet from the edge of school grounds which teaches any grade from kindergarten to 12th grade) then the handgun must be locked in a fully enclosed container. Failure to lock up a handgun while in a school zone is a violation of federal (only if one does not possess a concealed weapons permit issued by California) and state law. 1.1. "Loaded" A firearm is "loaded" when there is: an unexpended cartridge or shell, consisting of a case that holds a charge of powder and a bullet or shot, in, or attached in any manner to, the firearm…including, but not limited to, in the firing chamber, magazine, or clip thereof attached to the firearm.. Therefore, carrying a loaded magazine separate from the handgun is NOT Prohibited under the CA Penal Code. As long as the loaded magazine is not inserted into the gun, you are carrying/transporting an unloaded weapon. e.g. Ammunition and handgun are in the same box but the handgun does not have a loaded magazine inserted, nor a round in the chamber. A lockable gun case such as one of these gun vault or a Console Vault are considered legal to transport a unloaded firearm and loaded magazines as long as they remain locked to passengers. I have a CA carry permit, but keep a truck carbine and extra pistol (our carry guns must be listed by serial number on our permits for concealed carry) in a locked soft case under my rear seat. Also legal. Picture - (go ahead and make fun of my funky grip - it is just a method to get around our asinine laws) I use a small keyed lock thru the zipper pulls and a D ring to lock it. 
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Posted: 7/19/2017 6:41:36 PM EDT
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I have a beat to shit California approved Wilson combat from the last century that I take with me.
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Posted: 7/19/2017 6:52:37 PM EDT
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You might be thinking of assault weapon transport laws, because that isn't the law with respect to pistols. Carry it in a locked container (doesn't have to be a case by any means; backpack compartment with the zippers held closed by a lock would suffice, or something else soft like that). The gun has to be unloaded, but you can have your loaded mags with you, whether in the same compartment or container as the gun or in a different one, as you prefer, and if they are stored separately, they don't need to be locked (you could carry them on your person if you wanted to). Don't bring in mags with a capacity larger than 10 rounds (a larger capacity mag blocked to 10 is okay) and don't bring in a pistol with a threaded barrel or which otherwise might run afoul of the assault weapons ban (most should not). |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 7:06:27 PM EDT
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While true, if you want to avoid a hassle by some LEO who have their personal interpretations and don't appreciate you holding up your cell phone and showing them the language of the laws it's a way to avoid a headache in coastal California like Los Angeles or San Francisco but if your in a red county or town like Bakersfield or Redding then you're less likely to experience this. OP is going to the beach, I assume he's dealing with coastal California and north of Oceanside its generally pretty pro gun control from the populace to the police Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ammo does not need to be separate. This is commonly stated, but remains wrong. The firearm itself just needs to be unloaded. |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 7:08:08 PM EDT
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You said "beach". I would take into account where you are going and what you are doing. I wouldn't take a gun if I'm going swimming in the surf, and I'm not sure I'd risk leaving it in the car. I've never been searched by police living in CA for the last 50 odd years. My car was twice searched by Border Patrol, but they didn't take second notice of my guns or check the capacity of my mags. I do generally try to obey the law when I know I'm going through BP checkpoints, however. Also, illegal carry is usually not a felony and you should get the firearm back later. A compact Glock might be a good choice, not such a loss if the police take it and don't return it. |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 7:09:07 PM EDT
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True, however CHP is all over the state and most don't play local politics like the Central Valley. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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While true, if you want to avoid a hassle by some LEO who have their personal interpretations and don't appreciate you holding up your cell phone and showing them the language of the laws it's a way to avoid a headache in coastal California like Los Angeles or San Francisco but if your in a red county or town like Bakersfield or Redding then you're less likely to experience this. OP is going to the beach, I assume he's dealing with coastal California and north of Oceanside its generally pretty pro gun control from the populace to the police |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 7:12:28 PM EDT
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Yeah, fuck all that. "Durr, just keep it unloaded, locked up, disassembled, not in passenger compartment, with 10rd mags or less, with etc etc etc" No thanks. I'd just rather never go there and never support anything in that state with one dollar if I have a choice.
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