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Posted: 5/23/2017 2:00:42 PM EDT
A little while ago someone posted a video of an airdrop where the parachute cabling failed and a number of HummVees fell out of the sky like rain. $500,000 worth of damage, easy. Here it is for those who didn't see it:
 Failed To Load Title Now imagine all that was caused by just one clueless guy in the army who screwed up because he didn't know what he was doing I.E. he used duct tape to tie rope ends together. Or, imagine some idiot in the air force who didn't secure a bomb properly and it fell off the plane and caused a million dollar crater in the runway. Or, imagine a Marine who drives a tank through an Osprey. Or imagine someone in the Navy who accidentally launched a torpedo at a ship and it sinks. Use your imagination on how much of an idiot an idiot can be and who could make a very expensive idiot mistake. Nobody gets killed but a lot of damage is caused. So what would the military do to him? Making him do ten thousand pushups is inadequate punishment for a million dollar crater in a runway. Would they fine him for the damage and dock his wages for the next thousand years? Or would that be prison time? Or does this happen all the time and the authorities would just shrug and say "Ah well what can you do?" Just wondering, since I am not MIL... |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 2:01:44 PM EDT
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Promote them
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Posted: 5/23/2017 2:02:05 PM EDT
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They'll probly promote him...
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Posted: 5/23/2017 2:03:18 PM EDT
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Send them to OCS.
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Posted: 5/23/2017 2:03:42 PM EDT
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Promote them..
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Posted: 5/23/2017 2:04:04 PM EDT
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Dishonerable discharge. Possible courts marshal with serious jail time if there's proof of negligence and not just incompetence.
I heard of several stories about guys screwing up and their actions causing damage if not destruction of aircraft that ended them up spending most of if not all the rest of their lives at Leavenworth. |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 2:04:49 PM EDT
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FPNI
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Posted: 5/23/2017 2:05:13 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/23/2017 2:06:11 PM EDT
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I've talked to people involved with that.
The shit they used to secure it in place passed inspection, but it was actually degraded to the point that it was weak as shit. They properly secured it, but the material was fucked. |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 2:06:33 PM EDT
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One month pay.
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Posted: 5/23/2017 2:07:03 PM EDT
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FPNI |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 2:07:27 PM EDT
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FPNI
I've seen it multiple times. |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 2:07:33 PM EDT
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I can't comment on destruction of vehicles but I can say that if you jettison a 240 at 500 feet, it will get pushed under the rug....
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Posted: 5/23/2017 2:09:38 PM EDT
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They get sent to FT Polk or Ft Hood.
A fate worse than death |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 2:11:12 PM EDT
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They become lifers and decision makers
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Posted: 5/23/2017 2:11:31 PM EDT
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Send them to the Marine Corps!
 
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Posted: 5/23/2017 2:12:18 PM EDT
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Lol, well those humvees are probably the shittiest ones they could find in the unit. So def. not $500k in damage. Shit happens in heavy drop ops. And a team rigs them, not one guy. So more than one may have screwed up here.
But to your point, the idiots typically stay in as long as they can and are careerists. They're the bad leaders who are inept, can't make decisions, etc. |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 2:14:36 PM EDT
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I can't comment on destruction of vehicles but I can say that if you jettison a 240 at 500 feet, it will get pushed under the rug.... Some things are just not worth the paperwork |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 2:14:44 PM EDT
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... hopefully, Ft. Leavenworth
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Posted: 5/23/2017 2:15:18 PM EDT
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Lol, well those humvees are probably the shittiest ones they could find in the unit. So def. not $500k in damage. Shit happens in heavy drop ops. And a team rigs them, not one guy. So more than one may have screwed up here. But to your point, the idiots typically stay in as long as they can and are careerists. They're the bad leaders who are inept, can't make decisions, etc. Word |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 2:16:38 PM EDT
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Ultimately they get out, move to Arizona and become Senators.
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Posted: 5/23/2017 2:17:20 PM EDT
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Is that an old video?
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Posted: 5/23/2017 2:17:43 PM EDT
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If it's anything like the private sector, promotion.
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Posted: 5/23/2017 2:18:20 PM EDT
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Ultimately they get out, move to Arizona and become Senators. |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 2:19:11 PM EDT
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No shit, how many planes did he destroy? ETA: The actual number seems to be 4, plus by his own admission destroying a set of power lines in Spain and knocking out power to an entire town. |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 2:22:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/23/2017 2:26:37 PM EDT
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The hummvees fall on the LoadMaster probably. If you screw up often enough and bad enough you'll quite possibly do some time. Usually it's a 'good of the service' discharge or a refusal to train discharge. If it a bunch of little stuff it is lots of extra duty.
Lots of folks get rejected for reenlistment based on things in their fitreps. Would suck to be an E5 with 16 years and on the street - no retirement benefits. But then if you're an E5 with 16 years you're a screw up any way. |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 2:28:29 PM EDT
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Send them to OCS. The Ol' Crew Chief |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 2:32:56 PM EDT
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They get sent to FT Polk or Ft Hood. A fate worse than death |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 2:34:26 PM EDT
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Normally they figure out an excuse to blame someone else and recieve brownie points with higher ups for it, which eventually leads to promotions.
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Posted: 5/23/2017 2:34:30 PM EDT
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I bet they stopped laughing once they realized that those were their only rides.
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Posted: 5/23/2017 2:36:27 PM EDT
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Put them in charge.
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Posted: 5/23/2017 2:37:12 PM EDT
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Lol, well those humvees are probably the shittiest ones they could find in the unit. So def. not $500k in damage. Shit happens in heavy drop ops. And a team rigs them, not one guy. So more than one may have screwed up here. But to your point, the idiots typically stay in as long as they can and are careerists. They're the bad leaders who are inept, can't make decisions, etc. |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 2:37:57 PM EDT
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Promote them |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 2:38:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/23/2017 2:41:10 PM EDT
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they become Chief of Staff
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Posted: 5/23/2017 2:45:46 PM EDT
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I was always told that experience is the best teacher. Go see a recruiter and get back to us in a few years with a run-down of your career.
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Posted: 5/23/2017 3:02:42 PM EDT
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They make them transgender. Trannies.
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Posted: 5/23/2017 3:03:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/23/2017 3:20:30 PM EDT
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Report of Survey. If liable, it will come out of his pay. If he ETS' it will be withheld from any Federal Tax refunds he is supposed to get, until paid off. DFAS loves to give you a pay slip (LES) saying "No pay due. Debt to U.S. Government"
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Posted: 5/23/2017 3:25:44 PM EDT
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Ultimately they get out, move to Arizona and become Senators. Made my day, thanks! |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 3:27:53 PM EDT
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We gave a bunch of guys administrative discharges in the CG for simply not being worth it. Either idiots, or just failing.
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Posted: 5/23/2017 3:33:38 PM EDT
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Promote them |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 3:35:17 PM EDT
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Promote them to make them go away.
Or someone just has to suffer through dealing with them for 4 years until they go away.  Army proof |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 3:35:24 PM EDT
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Lose a couple of Hummers or fuck up an aircraft? Eh, someone might get get some paperwork in their file.
Lose the mirror on the Hummer when you drive to close to a tree limb? No biggie, it's a field loss. Lose the Jesus pin while you're cleaning your rifle after an FTX? Jesus, Joseph, and Doggy Style Mary, it's your ass now. |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 3:35:45 PM EDT
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Promote them |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 3:36:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/23/2017 3:36:47 PM EDT
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I believe there was an SP about 10 years ago who ran his patrol car into a parked F-15 and actually jammed the car underneath the jet.
Florida, IIRC. here it is: SP vs. F-15 |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 3:39:18 PM EDT
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Very easy to tell who has, and hasn't served based on the responses.
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Posted: 5/23/2017 3:39:37 PM EDT
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I was in the Army and there was a female Sgt who was scared of the dark (to the point where one night I had to walk her from the TOC to her vehicle, and no, she wasn't worth the trouble). On top of all that she was a complete idiot. You'd think that a situation like that would make her incompatible with a service that emphasizes nighttime operations, so you'd think that that would get her booted, right? Wrong. They moved her out of the line platoon and made her a military police investigator. True story.
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Posted: 5/23/2017 3:52:18 PM EDT
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Dumbass I worked with ignored all the audio and visual cues that his wheels were up.
Then he wondered why the runway was closer then normal when he came to a halt. Didn't slow his career down one bit, now he flies for an airline and gets maybe 8K a month in retirement. And no, he wasn't a "good dude" with shitty luck |
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