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Link Posted: 3/26/2017 7:35:13 PM EDT
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They'll get this one passed no problems.....
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 8:39:27 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/26/2017 8:41:58 PM EDT
[#3]
But......muh porn they'll know about muh porn !!!
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 8:44:04 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/26/2017 8:48:31 PM EDT
[#5]
How would advertisers use this info?
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 8:54:59 PM EDT
[#6]
Porn hub is going to be full of adds now?
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 8:57:11 PM EDT
[#7]
Are we supporting unconstitutional government overreach now?
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 9:01:24 PM EDT
[#8]
now instead of having to go through the trouble of getting a subpoena or a warrant, the govt can just buy everyone's browsing history en mass and sift through it at their leisure
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 9:09:16 PM EDT
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Do you not understand how data collection and analytics work?
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 9:10:12 PM EDT
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The Senate vote was 50-48, with lawmakers voting entirely along party lines.
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50 Republican senators voted in favor of this?

Da fuq?
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 9:10:52 PM EDT
[#11]
Rut-roh!
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 9:11:44 PM EDT
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Lol! This.

Hurray Capitalism?
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 9:14:54 PM EDT
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It's okay as long as our side is doing it

If you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to worry about
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 9:15:29 PM EDT
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How would advertisers use this info?
Do you not understand how data collection and analytics work?
Obviously your intelligence is too great for me.

I am not worthy.
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 9:19:12 PM EDT
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50 Republican senators voted in favor of this?

Da fuq?
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The Senate vote was 50-48, with lawmakers voting entirely along party lines.
50 Republican senators voted in favor of this?

Da fuq?
LOL.

Repubs. always vote for this kind of shit. They love to take away your right to privacy under the guise of "stripping regulations". 
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 9:22:53 PM EDT
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I'm now much more wary of what category of videos I click on.
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 9:26:04 PM EDT
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As if they haven't been doing it for years.
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 9:27:34 PM EDT
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LOL.

Repubs. always vote for this kind of shit. They love to take away your right to privacy under the guise of "stripping regulations". 
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People here were overjoyed the other day when the Rs were wanting insurance companies to demand your DNA. "Dems Rs be done gettin rid of da regulationz!"
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 9:28:16 PM EDT
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I am thinking it might be about time to drop internet service entirely, and visit some public wifi hot spot when I need to get on the Net.  What a massive pain in the ass.

Fuck the Republican party for allowing this to happen.
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 9:36:53 PM EDT
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Obviously your intelligence is too great for me.

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In short, it allows your ISP to become a central source for taking everything you do online and selling it to anyone interested.  As a website owner, I can track everything you do, down to how long your mouse hovers on a point on a page and I can use your interactions on my page to build a profile about you.  Unfortunately, I would be just one website, so I would know everything that @VooDoo3dfx does on, say, airtightgrannies.com.  I can sell your information about your love of airtight grannies, but it's only partially monetizable, because I don't know what you do when you aren't on airtightgrannies.com.

As an ISP, I can harvest your time on airtightgrannies.com, ARFCOM, ApMex, Amazon, Best Buy, Netflix, Hulu...  Literally every single thing you do online.  I can then feed those into a database, munch up the data in a Hadoop cluster and spit out, on the other end, a very detailed profile of VooDoo3dfx as a commodity.

And that doesn't even get into what the gub'mint could do with it...
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 9:38:16 PM EDT
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 Sure.

  Apparently , most of the guys in this thread have nothing to hide.  "Come on in, officer.  Can I lick your boots?  Ohh, you'd rather put them on my neck?  OK.  I'm sure you have a good reason"
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 9:44:26 PM EDT
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Who wants to get into the VPN business?
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 9:50:44 PM EDT
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high res version here.

50 senators
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 9:57:16 PM EDT
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No need
There is a crap ton available.
Some with "Lifetime" subscriptions

Get your VPN now.


For those of you that don't know how it works.
Without a VPN your ISP see's EVERY site you visit (no matter if its https / SSL or not)
With a VPN you are giving a IP address that forces ALL traffic through that IP.
So, all your provider knows is that you are connecting to that single IP.
They have no idea what sites you visit. They only see that single IP.

That being said there is frequently bottle neck issues and you are unlikely to get maximum throughput on your available ISP bandwidth no matter what VPN provider you choose.
Nevertheless speed is typically more than sufficient (depending on your VPN provider).

Edit:

One more thing. Streaming services very often "Blacklist VPN's" because people try to user them to circumvent geoblocking (using netflix / amazon prime video in europe ...etc when you are not authorised)
So, you will likely deactivate the VPN to use streaming services unless you want to keep rotating trying to find one that hasn't YET been blacklisted (and it soon will be)
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 9:58:05 PM EDT
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We straight up live in a banana republic.   Look at how much ISP's spent on lobbying last year for a clue.

Fuck the Senate.  Every single one of them.

You have zero privacy in America.  You used to have rights.  Now you have none.
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 10:01:10 PM EDT
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What's the over/under until VPN services are banned because "terrorists"?
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 10:04:55 PM EDT
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There are two sides to this.  On one side, your ISP is a public company.  Them selling your browsing data is no different that a store watching how you walk around their store.  As long as they warn me that I am being watched it generally isnt a big deal.  I cannot be guaranteed anonymity in a public space.

Now for obvious reasons I would select a ISP that wouldnt do this shit.  

But maybe the bigger argument here is that if my browsing information is worth something then I have used the service I paid for to make something of value.  If I have made something of value then dont I own it?    If what is proposed is legal, couldnt an ISP also track a day traders ( or even an automated trader) real time and sell this information real time.   Those clicks in real time are valuable, how can they be sold to a competitor by some one who didnt create them?
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 10:05:53 PM EDT
[#28]
Are we on the wrong side???

Why does our congress seem to be selling out our privacies and rights at every turn??
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 10:06:39 PM EDT
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It's not "our side" because you're a troll.
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 10:07:53 PM EDT
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Yup. My ISP sees me connect to a server somewhere and then the traffic just halts as far as they know.
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 10:08:12 PM EDT
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There are two sides to this. On one side, your ISP is a public company.  Them selling your browsing data is no different that a store watching how you walk around their store.  As long as they warn me that I am being watched it generally isnt a big deal.  I cannot be guaranteed anonymity in a public space.

Now for obvious reasons I would select a ISP that wouldnt do this shit.  

But maybe the bigger argument here is that if my browsing information is worth something then I have used the service I paid for to make something of value.  If I have made something of value then dont I own it?    If what is proposed is legal, couldnt an ISP also track a day traders ( or even an automated trader) real time and sell this information real time.   Those clicks in real time are valuable, how can they be sold to a competitor by some one who didnt create them?
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No there isn't. It's fascism.
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 10:09:47 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/26/2017 10:09:49 PM EDT
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Wow Cruz is on that list?
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 10:10:27 PM EDT
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Meh, whatever. At least someone will be able to make some money off of what the government has been making hay with.
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 10:10:59 PM EDT
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Trump will never sign this into law!!!!!! 






Link Posted: 3/26/2017 10:13:44 PM EDT
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There are two sides to this.  On one side, your ISP is a public company.  Them selling your browsing data is no different that a store watching how you walk around their store.  As long as they warn me that I am being watched it generally isnt a big deal.  I cannot be guaranteed anonymity in a public space.

Now for obvious reasons I would select a ISP that wouldnt do this shit.  

But maybe the bigger argument here is that if my browsing information is worth something then I have used the service I paid for to make something of value.  If I have made something of value then dont I own it?    If what is proposed is legal, couldnt an ISP also track a day traders ( or even an automated trader) real time and sell this information real time.   Those clicks in real time are valuable, how can they be sold to a competitor by some one who didnt create them?
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There's a metric fuck ton of folks across the US who *only* have one or two ISPs available as choices for connectivity. My WAG would be somewhere in the neighborhood of ~80 percent of the US wouldn't be *able* to find an ISP who didn't do this if the 5 top ISPs in the US got on board.
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 10:14:20 PM EDT
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Is this the one where they are repealing a last minute rule by the Obama administration, that doesn't even take effect until next year, and is enforced against ISPs but not any other website or service?
So essentially, nothing has changed at all?
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 10:14:28 PM EDT
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Any company who does this is a shitty company.  Dont so business with shitty companies.  

http://www.businessinsider.com/credit-cards-sell-purchase-data-to-advertisers-2013-4

This was done before the internet as well it has just gotten easier.


People should wake up and start taking their privacy seriously.
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 10:14:45 PM EDT
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A midnight regulation that never went into effect. NOTHING has changed since January 19th.

Bullshit narrative.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1977707_What-was-the-purpose-of-Zero-s-midnight-regulations--To-rile-up-the-left--that-s-what-.html
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 10:14:59 PM EDT
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~6 months, but only AFTER a few high profile plots somehow utilizing VPN's are spoiled due to damn fine police work.

Damnit, I knew I should have bought more tinfoil...
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 10:15:57 PM EDT
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How can an ISP be fascist? Its a company like many others. YOU have the right to choose a different company.

Fascist by definition is dictatorship government control with no alternative.
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 10:19:50 PM EDT
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I did not know this vote was happening,,,, I did write them on popvox to vote against for the next vote and why I did not like it.
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 10:20:08 PM EDT
[#43]
Porn and guns, not much else to see here folks.
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 10:21:57 PM EDT
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How can an ISP be fascist? Its a company like many others. YOU have the right to choose a different company.

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How many ISP's have plant in your backyard?  This argument is retarded.  You act like you can go to the store and pick from 50 different ones.
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 10:22:27 PM EDT
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This is odd.  It appears that I side with the Democrats on this one.

How can that be?
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 10:24:20 PM EDT
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What authority does congress have to prevent your ISP from selling this info?

This is something for the market to sort out, not government
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 10:25:03 PM EDT
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Cruz and Paul voted for it.  Schumer voted against it. Guess I know which side I'd be on.
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 10:29:57 PM EDT
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Lol no.

That info is mine. The information produced by my activity belongs 100% to me. No one else. 

Technically, if this passes, ISPs would be allowed to make money off of my "product". 
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 10:30:31 PM EDT
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How can an ISP be fascist? Its a company like many others. YOU have the right to choose a different company.

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By this definition, my ISP is fascist because in my area of rural Wisconsin we only have one choice which is our one and only phone company.
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 10:31:14 PM EDT
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Lol no.

That info is mine. The information produced by my activity belongs 100% to me. No one else. 

Technically, if this passes, ISPs would be allowed to make money off of my "product". 
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Lol no.

That info is mine. The information produced by my activity belongs 100% to me. No one else. 

Technically, if this passes, ISPs would be allowed to make money off of my "product". 
What authority does congress have to prevent your ISP from selling this info?
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