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Posted: 2/24/2017 9:40:35 AM EDT
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Yikes. I don't think my BAC has ever been that low...
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Posted: 2/24/2017 9:40:55 AM EDT
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That's what a drink now? This is what happens when the right legislate morality, same shit the left pulls, statist will be statist
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Posted: 2/24/2017 9:41:10 AM EDT
[#3]
Holy shit, that could be one beer for some people.
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Posted: 2/24/2017 9:44:03 AM EDT
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Yikes. I don't think my BAC has ever been that low... 
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Posted: 2/24/2017 9:44:45 AM EDT
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Holy shit, that could be one beer for some people. I only had half a beer officer, I swear! |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 9:45:00 AM EDT
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Lol. Gotta keep that sweet sweet money train moving somehow!
Doin right ain't got no end. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 9:45:55 AM EDT
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At what point is it simply too low?  It's always been about $$$, never about safety.
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Posted: 2/24/2017 9:49:17 AM EDT
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Yikes. I don't think my BAC has ever been that low... |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 9:52:01 AM EDT
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Lol. Gotta keep that sweet sweet money train moving somehow! Doin right ain't got no end. I would have thought they would have switched to DWC by now... Driving While Cellphoneing... Seriously they have beat DWI down to where it's not making enough $$$$. Would not doubt that using mouthwash in the morning could get you close to .05... |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 9:53:15 AM EDT
[#10]
Damn, you can get that from just sniffing the cap.
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Posted: 2/24/2017 9:55:56 AM EDT
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When the state finally takes every dime you have. It's always been about $$, never about safety.This. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 9:56:00 AM EDT
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Do the taxi or limo unions have a foothold there?
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Posted: 2/24/2017 9:56:02 AM EDT
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I would have thought they would have switched to DWC by now... Driving While Cellphoneing... Seriously they have beat DWI down to where it's not making enough $. Would not doubt that using mouthwash in the morning could get you close to .05... Quote History<strong>Quoted:</strong>
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Lol. Gotta keep that sweet sweet money train moving somehow! Doin right ain't got no end. I would have thought they would have switched to DWC by now... Driving While Cellphoneing... Seriously they have beat DWI down to where it's not making enough $. Would not doubt that using mouthwash in the morning could get you close to .05... I once got picked for a random breathalyzer at work, and I blew .06. It was early in the morning and I hadn't had an alcoholic beverage in about two weeks, so I think it was the toothpaste or mouthwash that did me in. Fortunately it only had to be under .08, but I would have been FUCKED if these new laws were in place. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 9:56:04 AM EDT
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I don't think most people would even show signs of impairment at that level.
HGN is visible at .08, and some don't have a ton of trouble with other tests if they are on the edge. .05? I could see it happen if they were on the way down and it was close to 2 hours before the evidentiary test is administered and they drop down to .05. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 9:57:02 AM EDT
[#15]
that's just "revenuing" now.
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Posted: 2/24/2017 9:57:24 AM EDT
[#16]
If it saves just one life!
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Posted: 2/24/2017 9:57:29 AM EDT
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It's always been a huge fund raiser for municipalities. Just another way to bleed the public of funds. Why not increase the pool of potential targets? Statists gonna Statist
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Posted: 2/24/2017 9:58:17 AM EDT
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You can pass a breathlyzer if you butt chug.
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Posted: 2/24/2017 9:58:36 AM EDT
[#19]
They are gonna start getting into the realm of false positives....
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Posted: 2/24/2017 10:02:07 AM EDT
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To .05 At what point is it simply too low? That is the point. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 10:02:40 AM EDT
[#21]
Not to worry, in a few more years, it'll be 0.1. If you blow anything but 0's you'll get a DUI. They need the money!!! Don't ya know, the govt is BROKE, especially at the local level!!
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Posted: 2/24/2017 10:04:25 AM EDT
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I dunno if you can pick a BAL and apply it to everyone.
Some people have better reflexes than other and their mind is wired differently. I'd bet that your average collegiate level athlete can drive better with a .08 BAL than a sober 70 year old curmudgeon. I think they should transition to a reaction timing filed test than a BAL test. In fact, the reaction timing test should be part of the driver's license test. If your reaction timing sucks when sober...you probably shouldn't drive. So instead of DUI...maybe we issue RTS (reaction time sucks) tickets instead. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 10:04:43 AM EDT
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Not to worry, in a few more years, it'll be 0.1. If you blow anything but 0's you'll get a DUI. They need the money!!! Don't ya know, the govt is BROKE, especially at the local level!! 0.1 is already over the limit in all 50 states, I believe. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 10:08:27 AM EDT
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Here n AZ we have about five or so different DUI statutes that you can be charged with, one of which is termed "impaired to the slightest degree" meaning you could be a .01 and depending on how it was written you just bought yourself a DUI here.
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Posted: 2/24/2017 10:09:17 AM EDT
[#25]
Meh. States rights.
Don't like? Don't drink and drive. Simple. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 10:09:51 AM EDT
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Holy shit, that could be one beer for some people. Not with Utah beer... |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 10:10:21 AM EDT
[#27]
I see no reason to lower it to that level.
A person can still be convicted of DUI at a .05 if you can demonstrate the person could not properly operate a vehicle. I have made several such cases. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 10:12:54 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/24/2017 10:12:57 AM EDT
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I don't think most people would even show signs of impairment at that level. HGN is visible at .08, and some don't have a ton of trouble with other tests if they are on the edge. .05? I could see it happen if they were on the way down and it was close to 2 hours before the evidentiary test is administered and they drop down to .05. My eyes start to bounce in the .07 to .08 range. <--- volunteer drinker for an academy SFST class. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 10:14:50 AM EDT
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You can pass a breathlyzer if you butt chug. No shit? Well the next party I go to is going to get awkward when the Jello shots come out and I drop my pants. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 10:17:11 AM EDT
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I see no reason to lower it to that level. A person can still be convicted of DUI at a .05 if you can demonstrate the person could not properly operate a vehicle. I have made several such cases. I'd love to see their research behind the new number. 
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Posted: 2/24/2017 10:17:29 AM EDT
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0.1 is already over the limit in all 50 states, I believe. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not to worry, in a few more years, it'll be 0.1. If you blow anything but 0's you'll get a DUI. They need the money!!! Don't ya know, the govt is BROKE, especially at the local level!! 0.1 is already over the limit in all 50 states, I believe. Numbers are hard. 
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Posted: 2/24/2017 10:18:59 AM EDT
[#33]
there will be a day...... you will be wired to a lie detector and just the thought of wanting a beer will get you an DWI
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Posted: 2/24/2017 10:19:55 AM EDT
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Meh. States rights. Don't like? Don't drink and drive. Simple. I can't believe this post took soooo long. GD is slipping. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 10:20:57 AM EDT
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You can pass a breathlyzer if you butt chug. Not even going to ask .... no. 
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Posted: 2/24/2017 10:20:58 AM EDT
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I see no reason to lower it to that level. A person can still be convicted of DUI at a .05 if you can demonstrate the person could not properly operate a vehicle. I have made several such cases. At that point I don't know if the people were driving drunk or just morons that happened to be drinking before doing dumb stuff. Not that it matters since either one will kill you with a car. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 10:21:35 AM EDT
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My eyes start to bounce in the .07 to .08 range. <--- volunteer drinker for an academy SFST class. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't think most people would even show signs of impairment at that level. HGN is visible at .08, and some don't have a ton of trouble with other tests if they are on the edge. .05? I could see it happen if they were on the way down and it was close to 2 hours before the evidentiary test is administered and they drop down to .05. My eyes start to bounce in the .07 to .08 range. <--- volunteer drinker for an academy SFST class. How does one volunteer for this
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Posted: 2/24/2017 10:21:44 AM EDT
[#38]
They really need to move it down to 0,01
That way they can wring maximum media points out of every arrest - "He blew a 0.1 THAT'S 10 TIMES THE LEGAL LIMIT!!!" The old threshold of 0.1 had plenty of merit. 0.08 is just some MADD bullshit. When someone gets popped at 0.14 the media screams about them being "nearly twice the legal limit" Yet every time I see a crash, the reported BAC is not 0.09 - it is 0.18 or higher. Drunks are gonna get drunk. They get REAL drunk. Sadly, they will still drive no matter what, and the courts will keep putting them back on the street. Driving after your 3rd DUI conviction should be impossible. The only thing a limit that low (0.05) will do is put a bunch of casual drinkers (and some mouthwash users) in jail. The drunks will still be o the road. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 10:22:19 AM EDT
[#39]
The gov loves ZERO TOLERANCE.
It is coming. Felonies for everyone. Don't drive after using mouthwash or taking a tablespoon of cough med. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 10:23:52 AM EDT
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Even in the morning? Where you from, Port Aransas? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yikes. I don't think my BAC has ever been that low... LOL! <------ Grew up in Kingsville |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 10:24:50 AM EDT
[#41]
.05 to .1 is a driving while ability impaired in many states already.
.10 to .15 is dui. .15 and up UR toast. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 10:25:07 AM EDT
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I'd love to see their research behind the new number. Here's the nalasis: The number is established not at the tolerance of the drinker, but at the tolerance of the voters. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 10:28:41 AM EDT
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To .05 At what point is it simply too low? Oh you know, because, Safety. It's for the children. Thank God we have our heroes in blue to ruin the lives of everyday people for having a beer with lunch
Oh but states rights. This certainly isn't about money or abusive over reach by the government or their JBT's. Nope. It's for the good of the common man. You had a beer? A BEER!? Lock him up! And bankrupt him too! We need new cruisers!I mean, er,safer streets... Edited to not offend God's chosen few. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 10:29:33 AM EDT
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Have to wonder how they arrived at that number.
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Posted: 2/24/2017 10:29:41 AM EDT
[#45]
President McMullin will bring real conservatism back to America.
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Posted: 2/24/2017 10:34:15 AM EDT
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Mormon's irrational fear of alcohol
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Posted: 2/24/2017 10:35:02 AM EDT
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To .05 At what point is it simply too low? Actually, that is not lowering the BAC needed for DUI. A % BAC is simply a presumed level of intoxication. For example, here in Texas a person IS intoxicated, under the law, if the person's BAC is at .08%. A person under .08% can still be intoxicated. The presumed level is an objective definition, if a jury determines that a person was .08% BAC then that element of DWI (or DUI in other states) has been met. The elements of DWI in Texas, for example, are, 1) a person 2) is intoxicated 3) while operating a motor vehicle 4)in a public place If the offender is below .08% BAC and alcohol is the suspected intoxicant, then the jury can still determine a person intoxicated by this definition found in PC 49.01 Sec. 49.01. DEFINITIONS. In this chapter:
(2) "Intoxicated" means: (A) not having the normal use of mental or physical faculties by reason of the introduction of alcohol, a controlled substance, a drug, a dangerous drug, a combination of two or more of those substances, or any other substance into the body Texas is pretty standard across the US. Make sense? |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 10:36:36 AM EDT
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I can't believe this post took soooo long. GD is slipping. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Meh. States rights. Don't like? Don't drink and drive. Simple. I can't believe this post took soooo long. GD is slipping. As it turns out you can still believe in those things and say that this is stupid. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 10:36:42 AM EDT
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Oh you know, because, Safety. It's for the children. Thank God we have our heroes in blue to ruin the lives of everyday people for having a beer with lunch
Oh but states rights. This certainly isn't about money or abusive over reach by the government or their JBT's. Nope. It's for the good of the common man. At least it's up in that LDS hovel of a state, and not anywhere that matters. Have 9 wives? no biggie. Some underage? Oh that's no biggie, our good book says its ok. You had a beer? A BEER!? Lock him up officers. Make sure you bankrupt him too. You're a fool. A big fat idiot. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 10:37:02 AM EDT
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I'd love to see their research behind the new number. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I see no reason to lower it to that level. A person can still be convicted of DUI at a .05 if you can demonstrate the person could not properly operate a vehicle. I have made several such cases. I'd love to see their research behind the new number. Agree |
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