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Posted: 1/21/2017 2:23:15 PM EDT
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and a non-engineering job wanting a mechanical/aero engineering degree. What the fuck is wrong with HR and hiring managers? |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 2:28:58 PM EDT
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and a non-engineering job wanting a mechanical/aero engineering degree. What the fuck is wrong with HR and hiring managers? It just sucks they want qualified people to fill their job openings. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 2:33:44 PM EDT
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and a non-engineering job wanting a mechanical/aero engineering degree. What the fuck is wrong with HR and hiring managers? It just sucks they want qualified people to fill their job openings. That's cute but in general, people with mechanical engineering degrees gravitate towards engineering jobs not drafting. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 2:36:27 PM EDT
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and a non-engineering job wanting a mechanical/aero engineering degree. What the fuck is wrong with HR and hiring managers? It just sucks they want qualified people to fill their job openings. Sounds more like they want to hire someone overqualified for shit pay. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 2:38:59 PM EDT
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and a non-engineering job wanting a mechanical/aero engineering degree. What the fuck is wrong with HR and hiring managers? It just sucks they want qualified people to fill their job openings. Sounds more like they want to hire someone overqualified for shit pay. Could be, but their job, their rules. It'll work out one way or another. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 2:46:11 PM EDT
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they have high expectations and only get people that cant meet the requirements and then
they bitch because there is no skilled people to fill the positions. most companies do this anymore and wonder why only crazy people apply. Its their business of course but that doesn't mean its the best way to find good help. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 2:46:53 PM EDT
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Maybe they want to say that there is no one qualified so they can h1b.
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Posted: 1/21/2017 2:47:18 PM EDT
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Sounds more like they want to hire someone overqualified for shit pay. This. I've seen lots of job postings similar to this. New Grad, Entry Level Mechanical Engineer: 5 years experience and PE required 
I was also offered less money for an engineering job than I earned in my internships in college on multiple occasions
In my experience a lot of companies have issues hiring Engineering positions. I've had some that just nailed the process and were fantastic, but more usually interviews involve talking about your experience in stress analysis of composite structures and FEA to a junior HR girl who has no idea if what you just said was English and proceeds to ask you if you know how to use Office 
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Posted: 1/21/2017 2:52:12 PM EDT
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At my company Entry Level does not mean your first job. It means it's the lowest level job we offer.
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Posted: 1/21/2017 2:56:43 PM EDT
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To do this for the US Gov, you need to have a PHD.
WTF over? Major Duties may include, but are not limited to: Provides management and support for Microsoft Exchange network services used for the transmission of information in voice, data, and/or video format and ensure sustained delivery of vital hardwired and wireless network services to customers. Provides information and instruction to customers related to use and verification of backups. Manages accounts, network rights, and access to systems and equipment; and manages systems resources including performance, capacity, availability, serviceability and recoverability. Provides management and support for software and hardware (hubs, bridges, switches, routers, wireless) used for the transmission of information in voice, data, and/or video format and ensure sustained delivery of vital hardwired and wireless network services to customers. Installs, configures, maintains and verifies performance of hardware and software for centralized data storage. The employee resolves hardware/software interface and interoperability problems on a wide variety of different platforms, operating systems including Windows, Macintosh and Linux, applications and desktop configurations. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 3:04:21 PM EDT
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Could be, but their job, their rules. It'll work out one way or another. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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and a non-engineering job wanting a mechanical/aero engineering degree. What the fuck is wrong with HR and hiring managers? It just sucks they want qualified people to fill their job openings. Sounds more like they want to hire someone overqualified for shit pay. Could be, but their job, their rules. It'll work out one way or another. This thread didn't take long. I love the corporate cock sucking on this site. Fucking shit stain employers demanding top tier employees then wanting to insult them with shit for pay but still having the nerve to demand the world out of them. Yeah, we all have to suck the corporate cock because employment isn't a two way street or a symbiotic relationship. These stupid fucks actively scrape the bottom of the barrel after seeing that this initial plan didn't work out so well then complain about not being able to find good employees. It's a dog eat dog world these days. Treat your employer with the same contempt they treat you with, always be on the look out and ready to pounce on a better opportunity, and always remember that you and your loved ones come first. They want to treat their employees and customers like shit while raising prices and lowering quality and service? Give them the same treatment. Oh arfcom patriotic, capitalistic, conservative real Americans, please forgive me for not gobbing the corporate jizz and speaking ill of shitty employers. 
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Posted: 1/21/2017 3:09:08 PM EDT
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Usually, you see that shit, and what it really means is that they are building a case for bringing in an H1B to do the job.
Acquaintance who works HR pretty much confessed to that being the case, when I asked her about it. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 3:10:15 PM EDT
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I like entry level jobs that say you need three years of experience in that exact position somewhere else. But they ALL say that. How the hell do you get hired in Catch-22 land?
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Posted: 1/21/2017 3:10:29 PM EDT
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That's cute but in general, people with mechanical engineering degrees gravitate towards engineering jobs not drafting. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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and a non-engineering job wanting a mechanical/aero engineering degree. What the fuck is wrong with HR and hiring managers? It just sucks they want qualified people to fill their job openings. That's cute but in general, people with mechanical engineering degrees gravitate towards engineering jobs not drafting. 
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Posted: 1/21/2017 3:12:46 PM EDT
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This thread didn't take long. I love the corporate cock sucking on this site. Fucking shit stain employers demanding top tier employees then wanting to insult them with shit for pay but still having the nerve to demand the world out of them. Yeah, we all have to suck the corporate cock because employment isn't a two way street or a symbiotic relationship. These stupid fucks actively scrape the bottom of the barrel after seeing that this initial plan didn't work out so well then complain about not being able to find good employees. It's a dog eat dog world these days. Treat your employer with the same contempt they treat you with, always be on the look out and ready to pounce on a better opportunity, and always remember that you and your loved ones come first. They want to treat their employees and customers like shit while raising prices and lowering quality and service? Give them the same treatment. Oh arfcom patriotic, capitalistic, conservative real Americans, please forgive me for not gobbing the corporate jizz and speaking ill of shitty employers. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 3:14:14 PM EDT
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They probably have a specific person they want to hire and are hoping the requirements will allow them to cut everyone else out of the mandated hiring process Yep, Seen it before. Policy says they must advertise for job. So they advertise, making job qualifications that it is very unlikely anyone will meet except the one they already have in mind. AKA going through the motions. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 3:21:55 PM EDT
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You don't believe a company should be able to make whatever applicant requirements they want for their positions? Companies can do whatever they want with their job. That doesn't mean we can't point out their retardedness. I'm tired of hearing people bitch about not being able to find any good hires because of their own stupidity; or hearing about how their underpaid, over qualified employees aren't performing well. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 3:23:01 PM EDT
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Maybe they want to say that there is no one qualified so they can h1b. This. Seen it before. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 3:23:17 PM EDT
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Companies can do whatever they want with their job. That doesn't mean we can't point out their retardedness. I'm tired of hearing people bitch about not being able to find any good hires because of their own stupidity; or hearing about how their underpaid, over qualified employees aren't performing well. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 3:24:12 PM EDT
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most companies also have piss poor human resources and they just copy shit
from the internet as a guideline for job openings. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 3:29:07 PM EDT
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Usually, you see that shit, and what it really means is that they are building a case for bringing in an H1B to do the job. Acquaintance who works HR pretty much confessed to that being the case, when I asked her about it. Time for Trump to put hefty tax penalties on bringing in H1B people. I doubt there is a job out there that no one is America is qualified to do, it's more like the company doesn't want to pay what it is worth. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 3:30:59 PM EDT
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they have high expectations and only get people that cant meet the requirements and then they bitch because there is no skilled people to fill the positions. most companies do this anymore and wonder why only crazy people apply. Its their business of course but that doesn't mean its the best way to find good help. It's done so they can claim "no americans qualified for the job" then they hire some Indian or Pakistani for shit wages on an H1B visa. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 3:31:55 PM EDT
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I remember an ad I saw about 15 years ago.
Req. BS in comp sci or info systems 3 years exp A+ cert Job descr. Unbox, set up, and configure new desktop computers. And get them hooked into the network. $10/hr + available(employee paid) insurance. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 3:32:15 PM EDT
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At my company Entry Level does not mean your first job. It means it's the lowest level job we offer. English - does your company speak it? First job is exactly what entry level is supposed to mean. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 3:33:59 PM EDT
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This thread didn't take long. I love the corporate cock sucking on this site. Fucking shit stain employers demanding top tier employees then wanting to insult them with shit for pay but still having the nerve to demand the world out of them. Yeah, we all have to suck the corporate cock because employment isn't a two way street or a symbiotic relationship. These stupid fucks actively scrape the bottom of the barrel after seeing that this initial plan didn't work out so well then complain about not being able to find good employees. It's a dog eat dog world these days. Treat your employer with the same contempt they treat you with, always be on the look out and ready to pounce on a better opportunity, and always remember that you and your loved ones come first. They want to treat their employees and customers like shit while raising prices and lowering quality and service? Give them the same treatment. Oh arfcom patriotic, capitalistic, conservative real Americans, please forgive me for not gobbing the corporate jizz and speaking ill of shitty employers. You may suck corporate cock, but in a democratic republic, employers have the right to chose their employees. They also have a right to determine qualifications for applicants. Enjoy your shit-stained jizz. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 3:38:21 PM EDT
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English - does your company speak it? First job is exactly what entry level is supposed to mean. TPNI If you're advertising for a job for something other than the lowest jr engineer, or equivalent in whatever discipline, then you call the job by that name not 'Entry Level' |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 3:38:39 PM EDT
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To do this for the US Gov, you need to have a PHD. WTF over? Major Duties may include, but are not limited to: Provides management and support for Microsoft Exchange network services used for the transmission of information in voice, data, and/or video format and ensure sustained delivery of vital hardwired and wireless network services to customers. Provides information and instruction to customers related to use and verification of backups. Manages accounts, network rights, and access to systems and equipment; and manages systems resources including performance, capacity, availability, serviceability and recoverability. Provides management and support for software and hardware (hubs, bridges, switches, routers, wireless) used for the transmission of information in voice, data, and/or video format and ensure sustained delivery of vital hardwired and wireless network services to customers. Installs, configures, maintains and verifies performance of hardware and software for centralized data storage. The employee resolves hardware/software interface and interoperability problems on a wide variety of different platforms, operating systems including Windows, Macintosh and Linux, applications and desktop configurations. Used to see that all the time on USAJOBS, it would read something like "Needs 1 year specialized experience at X level OR a Masters Degree" or "Needs three years specialized experience at X level OR a PhD". I always viewed it as they wanted to make it more favorable to veterans though, tons of civilian DOD jobs on there are written like that. Makes it tough to get foot in the door if you aren't ex-military. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 3:39:28 PM EDT
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They probably have a specific person they want to hire and are hoping the requirements will allow them to cut everyone else out of the mandated hiring process Quote HistoryQuoted:
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and a non-engineering job wanting a mechanical/aero engineering degree. What the fuck is wrong with HR and hiring managers? Or they're angling for an H1B with credentials from some garbage organizations. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 3:40:14 PM EDT
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It just sucks they want qualified people to fill their job openings. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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and a non-engineering job wanting a mechanical/aero engineering degree. What the fuck is wrong with HR and hiring managers? It just sucks they want qualified people to fill their job openings. Reading is Fundamental. 10 years experience is NOT Entry Level, period. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 3:40:42 PM EDT
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To do this for the US Gov, you need to have a PHD. WTF over? Major Duties may include, but are not limited to: Provides management and support for Microsoft Exchange network services used for the transmission of information in voice, data, and/or video format and ensure sustained delivery of vital hardwired and wireless network services to customers. Provides information and instruction to customers related to use and verification of backups. Manages accounts, network rights, and access to systems and equipment; and manages systems resources including performance, capacity, availability, serviceability and recoverability. Provides management and support for software and hardware (hubs, bridges, switches, routers, wireless) used for the transmission of information in voice, data, and/or video format and ensure sustained delivery of vital hardwired and wireless network services to customers. Installs, configures, maintains and verifies performance of hardware and software for centralized data storage. The employee resolves hardware/software interface and interoperability problems on a wide variety of different platforms, operating systems including Windows, Macintosh and Linux, applications and desktop configurations. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 3:41:10 PM EDT
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The economy crashed around the time Zero got elected and certain sectors haven't recovered. Outsourcing hasn't helped either.
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Posted: 1/21/2017 3:43:01 PM EDT
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It would be interesting if they are offering entry level pay to go with the 10 years experience.
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Posted: 1/21/2017 3:43:31 PM EDT
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This thread didn't take long. I love the corporate cock sucking on this site. Fucking shit stain employers demanding top tier employees then wanting to insult them with shit for pay but still having the nerve to demand the world out of them. Yeah, we all have to suck the corporate cock because employment isn't a two way street or a symbiotic relationship. These stupid fucks actively scrape the bottom of the barrel after seeing that this initial plan didn't work out so well then complain about not being able to find good employees. It's a dog eat dog world these days. Treat your employer with the same contempt they treat you with, always be on the look out and ready to pounce on a better opportunity, and always remember that you and your loved ones come first. They want to treat their employees and customers like shit while raising prices and lowering quality and service? Give them the same treatment. Oh arfcom patriotic, capitalistic, conservative real Americans, please forgive me for not gobbing the corporate jizz and speaking ill of shitty employers. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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and a non-engineering job wanting a mechanical/aero engineering degree. What the fuck is wrong with HR and hiring managers? It just sucks they want qualified people to fill their job openings. Sounds more like they want to hire someone overqualified for shit pay. Could be, but their job, their rules. It'll work out one way or another. This thread didn't take long. I love the corporate cock sucking on this site. Fucking shit stain employers demanding top tier employees then wanting to insult them with shit for pay but still having the nerve to demand the world out of them. Yeah, we all have to suck the corporate cock because employment isn't a two way street or a symbiotic relationship. These stupid fucks actively scrape the bottom of the barrel after seeing that this initial plan didn't work out so well then complain about not being able to find good employees. It's a dog eat dog world these days. Treat your employer with the same contempt they treat you with, always be on the look out and ready to pounce on a better opportunity, and always remember that you and your loved ones come first. They want to treat their employees and customers like shit while raising prices and lowering quality and service? Give them the same treatment. Oh arfcom patriotic, capitalistic, conservative real Americans, please forgive me for not gobbing the corporate jizz and speaking ill of shitty employers. @A_G If you nailed it any harder there'd be a 3 mile deep crater. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 3:44:23 PM EDT
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Maybe they want to say that there is no one qualified so they can h1b. This! There are a lot of companies scamming the legal immigration system for cheaper workers that they can import. But, first they have to satisfy the Dept. of Labor's requirement that they tried locating qualified US citizens first. 
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Posted: 1/21/2017 3:51:20 PM EDT
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Reading is Fundamental. 10 years experience is NOT Entry Level, period. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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and a non-engineering job wanting a mechanical/aero engineering degree. What the fuck is wrong with HR and hiring managers? It just sucks they want qualified people to fill their job openings. Reading is Fundamental. 10 years experience is NOT Entry Level, period. Reading is Fundamental. 10 years experience IS Entry Level for that company. They can ask for however many years of experience they want for an entry level job. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 4:28:47 PM EDT
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Reading is Fundamental. 10 years experience IS Entry Level for that company. They can ask for however many years of experience they want for an entry level job. The market will tell them if they need change their requirements. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 4:31:44 PM EDT
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They probably have a specific person they want to hire and are hoping the requirements will allow them to cut everyone else out of the mandated hiring process Surfing for a H1B |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 5:16:44 PM EDT
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They probably have a specific person they want to hire and are hoping the requirements will allow them to cut everyone else out of the mandated hiring process Quote HistoryQuoted:
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and a non-engineering job wanting a mechanical/aero engineering degree. What the fuck is wrong with HR and hiring managers? Fraternity member graduated with a mechanical engineer. To the best of my knowledge, never worked a day in his life in that field. Last I talked to him, he was hawking some kind of Amway bs. Tim has probably hit the nail on the head. Some people serve a purpose, somewhere. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 5:26:04 PM EDT
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Professional HR are the scum of the corporate world and that world is one huge cesspool.
They'll pass up hiring great people to hire well presented turds with impressive resumes to find out they are turds. It is sad but that is the way it is. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 5:31:49 PM EDT
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Maybe they want to say that there is no one qualified so they can h1b. Ding ding ding. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 5:38:10 PM EDT
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Entry level jobs (non-technical) at my company require 5 years experience and a related degree
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Posted: 1/21/2017 5:46:37 PM EDT
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Sounds more like they want to hire someone overqualified for shit pay. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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and a non-engineering job wanting a mechanical/aero engineering degree. What the fuck is wrong with HR and hiring managers? It just sucks they want qualified people to fill their job openings. Sounds more like they want to hire someone overqualified for shit pay. This... It's been going on for long enough for it to become kind of a joke. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 6:33:06 PM EDT
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and a non-engineering job wanting a mechanical/aero engineering degree. What the fuck is wrong with HR and hiring managers? every accounting job i looked at wanted 2-10 years experience and/or cpa for entry level. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 6:38:26 PM EDT
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Could be, but their job, their rules. It'll work out one way or another. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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and a non-engineering job wanting a mechanical/aero engineering degree. What the fuck is wrong with HR and hiring managers? It just sucks they want qualified people to fill their job openings. Sounds more like they want to hire someone overqualified for shit pay. Could be, but their job, their rules. It'll work out one way or another. Actually there are a few rules that might apply to this situation. If I had a law degree and time I would troll the heck out of them. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 6:38:42 PM EDT
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Entry level jobs (non-technical) at my company require 5 years experience and a related degree Just because it's an entry level job doesn't mean there will not be previous experience and or education requirements. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 6:39:23 PM EDT
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every accounting job i looked at wanted 2-10 years experience and/or cpa for entry level. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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and a non-engineering job wanting a mechanical/aero engineering degree. What the fuck is wrong with HR and hiring managers? every accounting job i looked at wanted 2-10 years experience and/or cpa for entry level. 
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Posted: 1/21/2017 6:41:28 PM EDT
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You don't believe a company should be able to make whatever applicant requirements they want for their positions? Fine. But employees get to bargain collectively to compensate. Freedom of association and free market, and all that stuff. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 6:49:35 PM EDT
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Actually there are a few rules that might apply to this situation. If I had a law degree and time I would troll the heck out of them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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and a non-engineering job wanting a mechanical/aero engineering degree. What the fuck is wrong with HR and hiring managers? It just sucks they want qualified people to fill their job openings. Sounds more like they want to hire someone overqualified for shit pay. Could be, but their job, their rules. It'll work out one way or another. Actually there are a few rules that might apply to this situation. If I had a law degree and time I would troll the heck out of them. Yeah, troll them hard for knowing what they want in a new employee! Bring in the .gov too, because we need more business rules. Hell, won't be long before somebody suggests they be sued for discrimination. Let's get some SJW's to protest at the job site. Damn them for having standards. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 6:59:06 PM EDT
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Fine. But employees get to bargain collectively to compensate. Freedom of association and free market, and all that stuff. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You don't believe a company should be able to make whatever applicant requirements they want for their positions? Fine. But employees get to bargain collectively to compensate. Freedom of association and free market, and all that stuff. 
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Posted: 1/21/2017 7:10:02 PM EDT
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this seems to be a plague that just keeps growing in the service industry, some spots are worse than others, but as a whole it is shit now.
the MAGA cant start soon enough |
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