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Posted: 12/4/2016 1:11:42 PM EDT
Now I can't find it in my subscriptions it just vanished?
Anyways just wanted to update the thread that the death toll is up from 9 to 24 today. |
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Posted: 12/4/2016 1:22:07 PM EDT
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Probably nuked because people were cheering about the deaths
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Posted: 12/4/2016 1:31:38 PM EDT
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FPNI.
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Posted: 12/4/2016 1:32:33 PM EDT
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People thought it was funny to make fun of fellow citizens who were killed in a fire. As someone who happens to live in Berkeley, CA and attends shows like this, I'm bummed to see some of our members responces. There are many of us living behind enemy lines... why don't people here understand that?
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Posted: 12/4/2016 1:33:14 PM EDT
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Probably nuked because people were cheering about the deaths Seriously? Who was in the warehouse? |
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Posted: 12/4/2016 1:34:43 PM EDT
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Probably nuked because people were cheering about the deaths Seriously? Who was in the warehouse? Californians. |
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Posted: 12/4/2016 1:34:53 PM EDT
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Seriously? Who was in the warehouse? Californians that listen to electronic music with earrings and tattoos. |
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Posted: 12/4/2016 1:35:58 PM EDT
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Seriously? Who was in the warehouse? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Probably nuked because people were cheering about the deaths Seriously? Who was in the warehouse? From what I have seen, mostly young white College students. Snowflake proprietor moaning on fukbook that he lost his cash cow. |
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Posted: 12/4/2016 1:37:03 PM EDT
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GD was typical douchebag GD and making posts finding humor in young Americans burning to death because they probably have different political views than the posters do
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Posted: 12/4/2016 1:38:15 PM EDT
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Seriously? Who was in the warehouse? Artists collective. Those people ARFCOM loves to hate, dress different, think different. Fucking horror show is what it is and a bunch of people need to go to prison for this. This kind of shit doesn't need to happen in a first world country. |
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Posted: 12/4/2016 1:39:07 PM EDT
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Yeah let's just leave the chatting and cheering of death to Americans to ISIS and other shit-for-brains ass wipes huh?
Everytime. Every single time. |
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Posted: 12/4/2016 1:39:20 PM EDT
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FPNI-hopefully there were some timeouts handed down!
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Posted: 12/4/2016 1:39:44 PM EDT
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Probably nuked because people were cheering about the deaths ... If true, that is fucked up. I for one would like to see ARFCOM management purge these interlopers |
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Posted: 12/4/2016 1:39:45 PM EDT
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Snowflake proprietor moaning on fukbook that he lost his cash cow. Saw that....posted the quote from him on the other thread right about the time it got nuked! Narcissistic fucker needs some pound in the ass prison time!! 
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Posted: 12/4/2016 1:40:25 PM EDT
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GD was typical douchebag GD and making posts finding humor in young Americans burning to death because they probably have different political views than the posters do Yeah, well that will get a thread nuked GD brings out the worst in some people |
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Posted: 12/4/2016 1:44:05 PM EDT
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Artists collective. Those people ARFCOM loves to hate, dress different, think different. Fucking horror show is what it is and a bunch of people need to go to prison for this. This kind of shit doesn't need to happen in a first world country. There's plenty of evidence that the safety hazards were known and the city knew about them. I'm interested in why was the owner given a pass? The only path to the 2nd floor was a freaking pile of pallets with varying step heights, some as high as your waist, and there was only one exit on the first floor 
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Posted: 12/4/2016 1:52:43 PM EDT
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There's plenty of evidence that the safety hazards were known and the city knew about them. I'm interested in why was the owner given a pass? The only path to the 2nd floor was a freaking pile of pallets with varying step heights, some as high as your waist, and there was only one exit on the first floor It is California, just like in NYC or Chicago, if you are the right party, and/or makes political donations to the right people for "business reasons" you can get away with anything. |
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Posted: 12/4/2016 1:52:56 PM EDT
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Why this building was not shut down and all tenants removed by the city is the glaring question that needs to be answered. I believe the last inspector went through the building on 11/14.
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Posted: 12/4/2016 1:53:07 PM EDT
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There's plenty of evidence that the safety hazards were known and the city knew about them. I'm interested in why was the owner given a pass? The only path to the 2nd floor was a freaking pile of pallets with varying step heights, some as high as your waist, and there was only one exit on the first floor It is California, just like in NYC or Chicago, if you are the right party, and/or makes political donations to the right people for "business reasons" you can get away with anything. |
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Posted: 12/4/2016 1:53:39 PM EDT
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what caused the fire, too much weed?
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Posted: 12/4/2016 1:54:45 PM EDT
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Probably nuked because people were cheering about the deaths Seriously? Who was in the warehouse? My old roommate for one...he got out though. |
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Posted: 12/4/2016 1:55:43 PM EDT
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Californians that listen to electronic music with earrings and tattoos. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Seriously? Who was in the warehouse? Californians that listen to electronic music with earrings and tattoos. Maybe you could help me to understand how this plays in or is pertinent? I do not understand? |
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Posted: 12/4/2016 1:55:45 PM EDT
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Why this building was not shut down and all tenants removed by the city is the glaring question that needs to be answered. I believe the last inspector went through the building on 11/14. I heard the inspector just went on Nov 17th to do an inspection but couldn't gain access. |
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Posted: 12/4/2016 1:58:13 PM EDT
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Typical GD thread. People in a liberal city died horrible deaths so a few edgy mother fuckers gave no fucks and raised a cheer. Then several here objected to their comments and called them out for beings cunts. I know I did, statement of fact. |
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Posted: 12/4/2016 1:58:39 PM EDT
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what caused the fire, too much weed? The assumption that there was likely a large amount of drug use happening in this place caused a lot of butthurt in the old thread but I think it's likely a contributing factor. A bunch of people out of their minds on various drugs just aren't going to be able to save themselves in a fire. It's not judgment but fact
Previous video from the 2nd floor party area:  OBSCURa MaCHINa - Ghost Ship, Oakland 06032016 |
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Posted: 12/4/2016 2:02:45 PM EDT
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Maybe you could help me to understand how this plays in or is pertinent? I do not understand? You'd have to see the other thread to understand. People on this site celebrating their deaths because they looked like they were "into a certain lifestyle" and most certainly were left wing rioting democrats. 
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Posted: 12/4/2016 2:06:44 PM EDT
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Artists collective. Those people ARFCOM loves to hate, dress different, think different. Fucking horror show is what it is and a bunch of people need to go to prison for this. This kind of shit doesn't need to happen in a first world country. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Seriously? Who was in the warehouse? Artists collective. Those people ARFCOM loves to hate, dress different, think different. Fucking horror show is what it is and a bunch of people need to go to prison for this. This kind of shit doesn't need to happen in a first world country. Oh those nasty SOB'S 
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Posted: 12/4/2016 2:08:40 PM EDT
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what caused the fire, too much weed? Pot needles, for the children. |
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Posted: 12/4/2016 2:12:28 PM EDT
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"Artists collective.
Those people ARFCOM loves to hate, dress different, think different. Fucking horror show is what it is and a bunch of people need to go to prison for this. This kind of shit doesn't need to happen in a first world country." Old run down building chock full of flammable shit and people making living spaces out of a place that was never meant to be lived in. To a decent degree, they brought this on themselves. Over a span of 20 years, I've been to plenty of punk/hardcore shows in basements, livingrooms, warehouses and other structures much like the one that burned down in Oakland. The vast majority of those spaces were run down to one degree or another and Firetraps themselves, usually with one way out and in..... never gave it much thought at the time though.... this being California, wonder if this will spur legislation banning these types of collective art/concert spaces unless they have some kind of state sanctioned licensing (or more vigorously enforce laws on the books).... |
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Posted: 12/4/2016 2:14:24 PM EDT
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I heard the inspector just went on Nov 17th to do an inspection but couldn't gain access. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why this building was not shut down and all tenants removed by the city is the glaring question that needs to be answered. I believe the last inspector went through the building on 11/14. I heard the inspector just went on Nov 17th to do an inspection but couldn't gain access. Quote from local newspaper: "City records show that there were habitability complaints made against the property's owner as recently as November 14 regarding an "illegal interior building structure." City inspectors appear to have visited the building on that date, but were unable to verify whether there were code violations. The city's investigation was still pending when the fire broke out last night." Somebody dropped the ball!!! |
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Posted: 12/4/2016 2:16:57 PM EDT
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You'd have to see the other thread to understand. People on this site celebrating their deaths because they looked like they were "into a certain lifestyle" and most certainly were left wing rioting democrats. Celebrating their deaths is completely wrong but if it swims like a duck and quacks like a duck... |
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Posted: 12/4/2016 2:20:04 PM EDT
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A neighbor interviewed by local news said they had bands and dancing on the roof.
Long history of complaints and violations. Citizens did their part but the city .gov didn't do shit. |
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Posted: 12/4/2016 2:24:55 PM EDT
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Probably nuked because people were cheering about the deaths Which is very sad. I do not see how anyone can have that kind of mentality. |
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Posted: 12/4/2016 2:28:05 PM EDT
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The more that comes out, it sounds like the building owner and the guy who leased it belong in jail.
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Posted: 12/4/2016 2:28:52 PM EDT
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24 confirmed dead. Coroner prepped for up to 40.
It's a horror show, but part of me can't get over that they knew damn well it wasn't safe. |
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Posted: 12/4/2016 2:30:36 PM EDT
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GD was typical douchebag GD and making posts finding humor in young Americans burning to death because they probably have different political views than the posters do In fairness to GD, the feeling would be mutual, I'm sure. Saw enough libtard tweets about the Gatlinburg fires |
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Posted: 12/4/2016 2:32:13 PM EDT
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The assumption that there was likely a large amount of drug use happening in this place caused a lot of butthurt in the old thread but I think it's likely a contributing factor. A bunch of people out of their minds on various drugs just aren't going to be able to save themselves in a fire. It's not judgment but fact
Previous video from the 2nd floor party area:  Attached Filed-Jma50bAMs</iframe> WTF is that shit
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Posted: 12/4/2016 2:36:42 PM EDT
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People thought it was funny to make fun of fellow citizens who were killed in a fire. As someone who happens to live in Berkeley, CA and attends shows like this, I'm bummed to see some of our members responces. There are many of us living behind enemy lines... why don't people here understand that? One question...since you are "living behind enemy lines" who is the enemy? The loss of innocent human life is always a tragedy. Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? said the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live? -Ezekiel 18:23 |
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Posted: 12/4/2016 2:38:36 PM EDT
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WTF is that shit Welp, a tranny DJ for starters. The bongo drums add a nice flair. In all seriousness, what started the fire? Did they have some kind of pyrotechnic? Dropped cigarettes typically don't burn warehouses down. |
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Posted: 12/4/2016 2:39:03 PM EDT
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That's pretty sad... and a terrible way to die.
I enjoy a bit of EDM myself, but some of those "underground" raves are put on in pretty sketchy places. |
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Posted: 12/4/2016 2:44:34 PM EDT
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In fairness to GD, the feeling would be mutual, I'm sure. Saw enough libtard tweets about the Gatlinburg fires |
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Posted: 12/4/2016 2:57:08 PM EDT
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From one of the survivors.
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Posted: 12/4/2016 2:59:19 PM EDT
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Probably nuked because people were cheering about the deaths Seriously? Who was in the warehouse? Ravers. Something I use to go to in the 90's |
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Posted: 12/4/2016 3:34:35 PM EDT
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A neighbor interviewed by local news said they had bands and dancing on the roof.
Long history of complaints and violations. Citizens did their part but the city .gov didn't do shit. I always love it when people on a supposed freedom loving firearms forum suggest more government intervention. |
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Posted: 12/4/2016 3:41:12 PM EDT
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I always love it when people on a supposed freedom loving firearms forum suggest more government intervention. It is funny isn't it. The punitive suits that will be made against the buildings owner and renters are going to dissuade others from doing this. |
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Posted: 12/4/2016 3:42:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI wonder if that person realizes just how truly lucky they are. The odds couldn't have been more stacked against them.
Shouldn't ever bother going to Vegas, or even playing the lottery, 'cause they done used up all their luck. |
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Posted: 12/4/2016 3:45:50 PM EDT
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Probably nuked because people were cheering about the deaths I didn't see anyone cheering or celebrating in that thread. |
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Posted: 12/4/2016 3:49:43 PM EDT
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I didn't see anyone cheering or celebrating in that thread. I sure did. |
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Posted: 12/4/2016 3:49:57 PM EDT
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I didn't see anyone cheering or celebrating in that thread. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Probably nuked because people were cheering about the deaths I didn't see anyone cheering or celebrating in that thread. Then you didn't read it very carefully. |
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Posted: 12/4/2016 3:50:42 PM EDT
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I sure did. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I didn't see anyone cheering or celebrating in that thread. I sure did. |
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Posted: 12/4/2016 3:56:04 PM EDT
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24 confirmed dead. Coroner prepped for up to 40. It's a horror show, but part of me can't get over that they knew damn well it wasn't safe. It's very sad. But when your young you think everything will be fine and nothing will happen. You don't go to a party and make sure there are sprinklers and enough exits. |
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