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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:15:41 PM EDT
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Based on the data collected by the pollsters up to this point, this is true.
However, as we saw in the pre-Brexit polls the real question is "are the polls accurately reflecting what the voters are thinking"? I personally think 3-5% of the "undecided/Hillary" voters are actually leaning Trump but don't want to say it because they are afraid to admit it. There are precedents for this, at least with Hillary: She had a 21% lead going into the weekend before the Michigan primary. She lost to Bernie three days later. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:16:12 PM EDT
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Polls are always at least within the margin of error skewed to the left. Given how corrupt the media outlets are on each side their is no "independent" polls without trying to push an agenda. The only data I will believe will be posted around Thanksgiving this year after all the lawsuits and voter fraud cases settle. The shit show is in full effect and I don't think for a minute the "voters" have any influence any more.
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:17:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Polls are always at least within the margin of error skewed to the left. Given how corrupt the media outlets are on each side their is no "independent" polls without trying to push an agenda. The only data I will believe will be posted around Thanksgiving this year after all the lawsuits and voter fraud cases settle. The shit show is in full effect and I don't think for a minute the "voters" have any influence any more. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:17:33 PM EDT
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It ain't over til it's over. This early in the election cycle the polls are very inaccurate and used to shape public opinion.
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:17:38 PM EDT
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nope, created to gauge public opinion, or so Naamah told me in bed one night
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:17:54 PM EDT
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Polls are always at least within the margin of error skewed to the left. Given how corrupt the media outlets are on each side their is no "independent" polls without trying to push an agenda. The only data I will believe will be posted around Thanksgiving this year after all the lawsuits and voter fraud cases settle. The shit show is in full effect and I don't think for a minute the "voters" have any influence any more. ^ | | | This. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:18:06 PM EDT
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You people who don't believe these polls, were you old enough to pay attention in 2012 and 2008?
Barring some major turn of events, Trump is going to get slaughtered. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:18:07 PM EDT
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Polls are only valid when they confirm my bias.
Otherwise, Ill give a million reasons why those polls are rigged, but those other polls werent.  |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:19:14 PM EDT
[#9]
I have this bad feeling Broom Hilary is going to be the president.
Recent Rasmussen poll has Trump up by 2 points |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:19:20 PM EDT
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Rush had a good point on this last week:
Polls these days are used, not just to inform where the publics opinion lies, but also to shape the publics opinion. Dems use this info to sway uneducated voters. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:19:35 PM EDT
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Polls are mostly worthless. Up until maybe right before an election.
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:20:42 PM EDT
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Something the ignorant don't realize is that polling companies have a serious financial interest in being accurate. If they screw up these widely publicized polls, they lose all credibility, and lots of future business.
It'll probably be January before the Trumpists finally admit they screwed up in supporting the Orange Con Man from New York. We can still fix this at the convention, if people wake up in time. Free the delegates! |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:21:11 PM EDT
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popularity poll contest vs likely voters or registered voters
I am fine with a 6 point deficit with popularity polls at this point. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:22:03 PM EDT
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Something the ignorant don't realize is that polling companies have a serious financial interest in being accurate. If they screw up these widely publicized polls, they lose all credibility, and lots of future business. It'll probably be January before the Trumpists finally admit they screwed up in supporting the Orange Con Man from New York. We can still fix this at the convention, if people wake up in time. Free the delegates! and here we go |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:22:21 PM EDT
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Excellent. We elected an unknown black man with no experience just so we could say we had a black president.
Why not elect the most corrupt woman in politics just so we can say we've had a woman president? |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:23:44 PM EDT
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Polls are only valid when they confirm my bias. Otherwise, Ill give a million reasons why those polls are rigged, but those other polls werent.
This. I'll go so far as to say I can tell an honest and reputable media outlet by whether or not it tells me what I want to hear. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:23:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Something the ignorant don't realize is that polling companies have a serious financial interest in being accurate. If they screw up these widely publicized polls, they lose all credibility, and lots of future business. It'll probably be January before the Trumpists finally admit they screwed up in supporting the Orange Con Man from New York. We can still fix this at the convention, if people wake up in time. Free the delegates! |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:24:16 PM EDT
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The roof, the roof, the roof is afire,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:24:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You people who don't believe these polls, were you old enough to pay attention in 2012 and 2008? Barring some major turn of events, Trump is going to get slaughtered. Trump is currently polling within the margin of error in Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Ohio and Florida. Hillary cannot win the presidency if she loses those states. I agree that if the election were held next week Hillary would probably win. However, it would not be a landslide -- Bill couldn't win a majority of the popular vote, even as an incumbent -- and Trump would do a lot better than the polls show he would. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:24:38 PM EDT
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You people who don't believe these polls, were you old enough to pay attention in 2012 and 2008? Barring some major turn of events, Trump is going to get slaughtered. Looking back at 2012 now. 0bama was at +3 on Mitt on 6-28. 0bama ended up +3.9%, so it's not looking so hot. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:25:10 PM EDT
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All that really matters is how about four swing states vote.
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:25:29 PM EDT
[#22]
So what does Trump Talk about...if he is losing in the polls?
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:26:06 PM EDT
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Martin Armstrong has computer models that have been nearly 100% accurate for decades.
Here is what he wrote about the US election: "Many comments and emails are pouring in that our model correctly forecast BREXIT years in advance. Here is the picture for the next big chaos period — the US Presidential Election in November. You can see that 3 out of 4 models show a Republican victory. Two of these show 60%+, which is unheard of. What we have just seen in BREXIT is a prelude to the US election. People are very anti-establishment, anti-immigration, and fed up with stagnant wages thanks to rising taxation." https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/north_america/2016-u-s-presidential-election/brexit-one-of-four-all-showing-anti-establishment/ |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:27:17 PM EDT
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Rush had a good point on this last week: Polls these days are used, not just to inform where the publics opinion lies, but also to shape the publics opinion. Dems use this info to sway uneducated voters. "See, all your peers are voting this way. You should too." |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:27:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's what they said four years ago. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Polls are always at least within the margin of error skewed to the left. Given how corrupt the media outlets are on each side their is no "independent" polls without trying to push an agenda. The only data I will believe will be posted around Thanksgiving this year after all the lawsuits and voter fraud cases settle. The shit show is in full effect and I don't think for a minute the "voters" have any influence any more. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:28:11 PM EDT
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Trump is currently polling within the margin of error in Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Ohio and Florida. Hillary cannot win the presidency if she loses those states. I agree that if the election were held next week Hillary would probably win. However, it would not be a landslide -- Bill couldn't win a majority of the popular vote, even as an incumbent -- and Trump would do a lot better than the polls show he would. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You people who don't believe these polls, were you old enough to pay attention in 2012 and 2008? Barring some major turn of events, Trump is going to get slaughtered. Trump is currently polling within the margin of error in Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Ohio and Florida. Hillary cannot win the presidency if she loses those states. I agree that if the election were held next week Hillary would probably win. However, it would not be a landslide -- Bill couldn't win a majority of the popular vote, even as an incumbent -- and Trump would do a lot better than the polls show he would. Trump has to win ALL the swing states if he wants to win. That is unlikely. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:28:38 PM EDT
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Something the ignorant don't realize is that polling companies have a serious financial interest in being accurate. If they screw up these widely publicized polls, they lose all credibility, and lots of future business. It'll probably be January before the Trumpists finally admit they screwed up in supporting the Orange Con Man from New York. We can still fix this at the convention, if people wake up in time. Free the delegates! We need a true conservative leader.... Someone with a steady hand... Someone with the temperament to be Commander and Chief.... 
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:28:50 PM EDT
[#28]
I'm not concerned
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:29:04 PM EDT
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I am sick and tired of this defeatism shit. The odds are quite obviously not in our favor, but still go out and vote. We still have a chance.
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:29:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Something the ignorant don't realize is that polling companies have a serious financial interest in being accurate. If they screw up these widely publicized polls, they lose all credibility, and lots of future business. It'll probably be January before the Trumpists finally admit they screwed up in supporting the Orange Con Man from New York. We can still fix this at the convention, if people wake up in time. Free the delegates! What ticket do you think the puppet masters can cobble together that won't leave the Trumpsters sitting at home in a huff and the Evil Bitch swilling champagne and fondling Huma? |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:29:54 PM EDT
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We need a true conservative leader.... Someone with a steady hand... Someone with the temperament to be Commander and Chief.... http://i.imgur.com/uSbrDtI.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Something the ignorant don't realize is that polling companies have a serious financial interest in being accurate. If they screw up these widely publicized polls, they lose all credibility, and lots of future business. It'll probably be January before the Trumpists finally admit they screwed up in supporting the Orange Con Man from New York. We can still fix this at the convention, if people wake up in time. Free the delegates! We need a true conservative leader.... Someone with a steady hand... Someone with the temperament to be Commander and Chief.... http://i.imgur.com/uSbrDtI.jpg If we lose the general, you are part of the reason why. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:30:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No. Romney was loser because he was a rino & would not attack only play defense. That is the difference with this election. THe Republican Party has not had enough balls to fight. The last time the RNC fought was 1984 when Dukakis rode a tank. Since then the DNC has dictated the news cycle and the narrative. Trump is driving the news cycle (and I don't agree with him - I was a Cruz guy) and that is why people are all panties in a bind. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Polls are always at least within the margin of error skewed to the left. Given how corrupt the media outlets are on each side their is no "independent" polls without trying to push an agenda. The only data I will believe will be posted around Thanksgiving this year after all the lawsuits and voter fraud cases settle. The shit show is in full effect and I don't think for a minute the "voters" have any influence any more. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:31:46 PM EDT
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If we lose the general, you are part of the reason why. Cool. What are you gonna do about it? |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:32:11 PM EDT
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The polls are all over the place. From the time my radio goes off in the morning till I get out of my truck for my morning coffee, I've heard 3 or 4 different polls that claim 3 or 4 different findings.
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:32:15 PM EDT
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No. Romney was loser because he was a rino & would not attack only play defense. That is the difference with this election. THe Republican Party has not had enough balls to fight. The last time the RNC fought was 1984 when Dukakis rode a tank. Since then the DNC has dictated the news cycle and the narrative. Trump is driving the news cycle (and I don't agree with him - I was a Cruz guy) and that is why people are all panties in a bind. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Polls are always at least within the margin of error skewed to the left. Given how corrupt the media outlets are on each side their is no "independent" polls without trying to push an agenda. The only data I will believe will be posted around Thanksgiving this year after all the lawsuits and voter fraud cases settle. The shit show is in full effect and I don't think for a minute the "voters" have any influence any more. Mondale was 84. Dukakis was 88. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:33:03 PM EDT
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I'm not talking about why he lost, that's irrelevant to the subject at hand. The fact is that right up to the end everyone was saying the polls were fucked and "Romney in a landslide." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Polls are always at least within the margin of error skewed to the left. Given how corrupt the media outlets are on each side their is no "independent" polls without trying to push an agenda. The only data I will believe will be posted around Thanksgiving this year after all the lawsuits and voter fraud cases settle. The shit show is in full effect and I don't think for a minute the "voters" have any influence any more. Yeah the polls from 2008 were totally wrong too! http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html#polls |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:34:58 PM EDT
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Polls are only valid when they confirm my bias. Otherwise, Ill give a million reasons why those polls are rigged, but those other polls werent.
Nailed it |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:35:09 PM EDT
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I'm old enough to remember Jimmy Carter was leading in teh polls 12 points ahead of Reagan,
and how I was stupid for even wasting my time to go down and vote for him. 
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:35:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump has to win ALL the swing states if he wants to win. That is unlikely. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: You people who don't believe these polls, were you old enough to pay attention in 2012 and 2008? Barring some major turn of events, Trump is going to get slaughtered. Trump is currently polling within the margin of error in Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Ohio and Florida. Hillary cannot win the presidency if she loses those states. I agree that if the election were held next week Hillary would probably win. However, it would not be a landslide -- Bill couldn't win a majority of the popular vote, even as an incumbent -- and Trump would do a lot better than the polls show he would. Trump has to win ALL the swing states if he wants to win. That is unlikely. I agree it's unlikely -- but not impossible. Especially if there is a stock market meltdown, or another major terrorist attack on US soil, or a major foreign crisis. This is part of the reason why the Left is in full meltdown mode over the Brexit vote: They simply did not see it coming; all the Smart People said it wouldn't -- it couldn't -- happen. Just as all the Smart People now are saying Trump won't -- and can't -- win; deep down inside, there is a real fear among Democrats that Trump could pull it off. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:35:43 PM EDT
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Jesus tap dancing Christ, the primaries aren't even over yet.
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:35:51 PM EDT
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"See, all your peers are voting this way. You should too." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Rush had a good point on this last week: Polls these days are used, not just to inform where the publics opinion lies, but also to shape the publics opinion. Dems use this info to sway uneducated voters. "See, all your peers are voting this way. You should too." Seems like that's how we ended up with Trump. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:36:20 PM EDT
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All that really matters is how about four swing states vote. And its crazy that we're going to get beat by the Democrat "B" team. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:36:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Mondale was 84. Dukakis was 88. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Polls are always at least within the margin of error skewed to the left. Given how corrupt the media outlets are on each side their is no "independent" polls without trying to push an agenda. The only data I will believe will be posted around Thanksgiving this year after all the lawsuits and voter fraud cases settle. The shit show is in full effect and I don't think for a minute the "voters" have any influence any more.  Either way. There is so much BS this election I don't think we can trust much. The big thing I am worried about is the DNC get out the vote effort where everyone living and dead votes early and often.
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:38:40 PM EDT
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Cool. What are you gonna do about it? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If we lose the general, you are part of the reason why. Cool. What are you gonna do about it? How old are you? |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:42:09 PM EDT
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I believe the polls right now. Anyone who does not believe that this is an uphill battle is lying to themselves.
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:46:48 PM EDT
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I believe the polls right now. Anyone who does not believe that this is an uphill battle is lying to themselves. Trump supporters have spent the entire election season lying to themselves. They've got the routine down and are hell bent to drag us all along with them. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:47:54 PM EDT
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Wait and watch.
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:48:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump supporters have spent the entire election season lying to themselves. They've got the routine down and are hell bent to drag us all along with them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I believe the polls right now. Anyone who does not believe that this is an uphill battle is lying to themselves. Trump supporters have spent the entire election season lying to themselves. They've got the routine down and are hell bent to drag us all along with them. So, at this point what would you have us do? |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:48:53 PM EDT
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I believe the polls right now. Anyone who does not believe that this is an uphill battle is lying to themselves. Can we at least wait until we have at least one debate between the candidates before we call the election? This is GD, not CNN. Sheesh. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:49:34 PM EDT
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The GOP selected an outsider, now it must face outsider challenges. Why are we suprised?
The safe money is on Hillary winning. No need to sugar coat it. This is the die we cast. Just have to play it out now |
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