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Posted: 11/29/2015 11:00:13 AM EDT
So I take see a shitton of young people with no medical problems and on no medications that have disability for some reason or other....Most of them are in for stuff like back pain/toothache/headache/rash/sneezed once....
The frequency of these people blows my mind. Is there some class they took to learn how to be a shithead and where can I sign up to take it? But seriously what's the process of becoming disabled as a lot of these people are obviously healthy and have no issues other than "my back hurts". |
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Its a system where you don't have to work and the Govt gives you money and shit.
Its a good gig if your into such things. I myself enjoy working. |
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I've had chronic back issues for 15 years. So bad sometimes that it is hard to walk.
But I still get up and go to work every day like a sucker. Hmmph. |
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But seriously what's the process of becoming disabled as a lot of these people are obviously health and have no issues other than "my back hurts". View Quote Go on the SS website and apply, get examined by doc they send you to, and get approved or denied. If you get denied, hire a lawyer, reapply, and get approved. That's how the guys I know got it. |
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My older brother has been trying to get on SSD for a couple of years. He's been turned down over and over, because he doesn't have any disability. he hired a lawyer to "get his money", but that failed. He went before a judge. Failed. He's been to a couple of shrinks trying to get them to say he is crazy, mentally unstable, thus unfit for work. Failed.
He is still trying, but he will be of age to collect SS legitimately before he figures out they are not going to play his game. I have a disability. I was denied once. The second time I applied I was deemed eligible. Letters from my GP and a specialist stating I could never work again made the process fairly quick.. |
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Go on the SS website and apply, get examined by doc they send you to, and get approved or denied. If you get denied, hire a lawyer, reapply, and get approved. That's how the guys I know got it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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But seriously what's the process of becoming disabled as a lot of these people are obviously health and have no issues other than "my back hurts". Go on the SS website and apply, get examined by doc they send you to, and get approved or denied. If you get denied, hire a lawyer, reapply, and get approved. That's how the guys I know got it. Do you just have it for life then or is there some oversight like seeing a doctor yearly to see if you're still faking your bullshit medical problem adequately? |
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Quoted: But seriously what's the process of becoming disabled as a lot of these people are obviously healthy and have no issues other than "my back hurts". View Quote Call Elk and Elk, they'll explain it for you |
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That, or PTSD. (I know people who I believe legitimately claim disability because of both.) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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these folks are suffering from fibromyalgia That, or PTSD. (I know people who I believe legitimately claim disability because of both.) I have seen many disabled vet plates on vehicles owned by people at the the gym and they seem 100% able bodied the way they lift regularly. I assume it must be that. |
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I have a compressed disk in my spine that has made me a half inch shorter, and a pinched sciatic nerve from lifting weights. I've been in daily pain for 7 years now. It limits the jobs I can do. Lots of twisting, pulling, pushing, and lifting heavy shit I can't do anymore.
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Do you just have it for life then or is there some oversight like seeing a doctor yearly to see if you're still faking your bullshit medical problem adequately? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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But seriously what's the process of becoming disabled as a lot of these people are obviously health and have no issues other than "my back hurts". Go on the SS website and apply, get examined by doc they send you to, and get approved or denied. If you get denied, hire a lawyer, reapply, and get approved. That's how the guys I know got it. Do you just have it for life then or is there some oversight like seeing a doctor yearly to see if you're still faking your bullshit medical problem adequately? They did a follow-up evaluation with me at 5 years. Sometimes they do it every year. It depends on your age and disability. I don't think they will evaluate me again. |
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My wife would easily qualify. She prefers working. As long as she can get out of bed, that's what she will do.
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these folks are suffering from fibromyalgia View Quote Or Depression/Bipolar, or Chronic Back pain. (I see more than a few people who come through our office with multiple medical complaints...on Disability...often with Medicare (definitely with Medicaid either as primary or secondary)...that are under 40 years old. Those are the most common 3 reported issues). ((As an aside...we do a 'review of systems' on our intake sheet. Occasionally you'll get a few 'back pain', maybe 'dry skin/fungal nails', some 'arthritis/joint pain' complaints...from the people who are working and/or retired and on Medicare. The people on Disability have lists like: (Cardiovascular System)...palpitations, leg pain, cold hands/feet. (Genitourinary)...hesitancy, increased urgency, decreased frequency. (Gastrointestinal)..abdominal pain, diarrhea, constipation, increased appetite, decreased appetite, heartburn. (Integumentary)...athletes foot, nail abnormalities, itchyness, dry, scaly skin. (Hematologic)...anemia. (Neurologic)...tingling, tremors, weakness, numbness, headaches. (Musculoskeletal)...back pain, sciatics, joint stiffness, joint swelling, joint pain, muscle weakness, muscle pain, neck pain, back pain, arthritis. (Respiratory)...chest pain, coughing, snoring, shortness of breath.. )) |
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They go into er saying they want to kill themselves. If they do this like 3 times and get declared mentally ill they get moved to the head of the line and get disability.
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Do you just have it for life then or is there some oversight like seeing a doctor yearly to see if you're still faking your bullshit medical problem adequately? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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But seriously what's the process of becoming disabled as a lot of these people are obviously health and have no issues other than "my back hurts". Go on the SS website and apply, get examined by doc they send you to, and get approved or denied. If you get denied, hire a lawyer, reapply, and get approved. That's how the guys I know got it. Do you just have it for life then or is there some oversight like seeing a doctor yearly to see if you're still faking your bullshit medical problem adequately? |
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Not enough jobs to go around. It's tough times we live in fellas.
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But seriously what's the process of becoming disabled as a lot of these people are obviously health and have no issues other than "my back hurts". Go on the SS website and apply, get examined by doc they send you to, and get approved or denied. If you get denied, hire a lawyer, reapply, and get approved. That's how the guys I know got it. Do you just have it for life then or is there some oversight like seeing a doctor yearly to see if you're still faking your bullshit medical problem adequately? Care to share with the class? |
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All the ones in my neighborhood are PTSD and hearing loss.... The mother fuckers can hear the check being dropped in the mailbox though
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But seriously what's the process of becoming disabled as a lot of these people are obviously health and have no issues other than "my back hurts". Go on the SS website and apply, get examined by doc they send you to, and get approved or denied. If you get denied, hire a lawyer, reapply, and get approved. That's how the guys I know got it. Do you just have it for life then or is there some oversight like seeing a doctor yearly to see if you're still faking your bullshit medical problem adequately? Care to share with the class? SSDI is the new welfare. |
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Quoted: Go on the SS website and apply, get examined by doc they send you to, and get approved or denied. If you get denied, hire a lawyer, reapply, and get approved. That's how the guys I know got it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: But seriously what's the process of becoming disabled as a lot of these people are obviously health and have no issues other than "my back hurts". Go on the SS website and apply, get examined by doc they send you to, and get approved or denied. If you get denied, hire a lawyer, reapply, and get approved. That's how the guys I know got it. |
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But seriously what's the process of becoming disabled as a lot of these people are obviously healthy and have no issues other than "my back hurts". Call Elk and Elk, they'll explain it for you "Serious lawyers for serious injuries". Fuck, now I have those two dickwads renting space in my head. |
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Quoted: I have seen many disabled vet plates on vehicles owned by people at the the gym and they seem 100% able bodied the way they lift regularly. I assume it must be that. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: these folks are suffering from fibromyalgia That, or PTSD. (I know people who I believe legitimately claim disability because of both.) I have seen many disabled vet plates on vehicles owned by people at the the gym and they seem 100% able bodied the way they lift regularly. I assume it must be that. Most of the PTSD disabled people I know are vets, and most of them are physically fit. But mentally they're messed up. Their "triggers" are very real. I've had vets' wives tell me that their husbands sometimes wake up in the middle of the night screaming and flailing. Scary stuff. I have a relatively mild case of it, managed by self-discipline and an occasional round of counseling. The 50th anniversary of my stress event is coming up soon. I might get brave and post it here. |
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But seriously what's the process of becoming disabled as a lot of these people are obviously health and have no issues other than "my back hurts". Go on the SS website and apply, get examined by doc they send you to, and get approved or denied. If you get denied, hire a lawyer, reapply, and get approved. That's how the guys I know got it. Do you just have it for life then or is there some oversight like seeing a doctor yearly to see if you're still faking your bullshit medical problem adequately? No one I know ever went back to see the SS doc after they got approved. |
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I've had chronic back issues for 15 years. So bad sometimes that it is hard to walk. But I still get up and go to work every day like a sucker. Hmmph. View Quote Same here Back, knees, shoulders, you name it, it all squeaks back at me on one day or another pretty much every day Getting older is not for the faint of heart The number of section 8 retards out there milking the system is terrifying And they're not ashamed to admit it There used to be some shame associated with being on the dole. |
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Its big business. I remember watching a special investigation about the practice in rural NC. There was a disability lawyer that owned his own practice and rented the medical building to the doc that diagnosed the disability. The medical office and law office shared the same parking lot. There was a clear partnership between the two. In that region, around 30% of residents were on disability. There was even a judge in it. The feds sent it some investigators to break up the scheme. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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But seriously what's the process of becoming disabled as a lot of these people are obviously health and have no issues other than "my back hurts". Go on the SS website and apply, get examined by doc they send you to, and get approved or denied. If you get denied, hire a lawyer, reapply, and get approved. That's how the guys I know got it. A whole bunch of retired guys from my dept. got busted recently. The lawyer and doctors were all in on it. https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1576093_City_cops_and_firefighters_suspected_of_scamming_SS_Disability. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1577821_80_NYC_cops_and_firefighters_charged_with_social_security_disability_fraud More arrests |
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So I take see a shitton of young people with no medical problems and on no medications that have disability for some reason or other....Most of them are in for stuff like back pain/toothache/headache/rash/sneezed once.... The frequency of these people blows my mind. Is there some class they took to learn how to be a shithead and where can I sign up to take it? But seriously what's the process of becoming disabled as a lot of these people are obviously healthy and have no issues other than "my back hurts". View Quote Don't know. My brother in law, Marine, EMT, LEO, and now nurse, has server back issues and is in constant pain. He can't work but the SSA won't approve his disability. |
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It may depend on what part of the country you live in.
I posted my own experience, and my brother's attempts. My case was re-evaluated at five years. Some people are re-evaluated after one year. My brother doesn't qualify, and he tried to get the state to say he was crazy in order to qualify. |
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Go on the SS website and apply, get examined by doc they send you to, and get approved or denied. If you get denied, hire a lawyer, reapply, and get approved. That's how the guys I know got it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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But seriously what's the process of becoming disabled as a lot of these people are obviously health and have no issues other than "my back hurts". Go on the SS website and apply, get examined by doc they send you to, and get approved or denied. If you get denied, hire a lawyer, reapply, and get approved. That's how the guys I know got it. Chicken dinner! I've seen people that have their toddlers on disability. One woman with four kids get five disability checks. |
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Disability is what the doctor says it is.
Back in the early '90s I recall many white young people (early twenties) going to see a doctor for a disability notice. Four of them would then collect welfare from the county and the three adjacent counties. That gave them about $1200 or so apiece. They'd share an apartment (say $1200 split four ways) and have $900 to live off of for the rest of the month. They were screaming with indignence when fingerprinting was proposed for welfare recepients. That would have ended their neat little scam. |
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Yea its a total scam ( unless you are honestly disabled and truly qualify for the benefit )
I rent out a couple rooms in my home to young girls as a way of doubling up on my house payment. So occasionally I will browse the local craigslist section of 'seeking room mate' or something like that. Its basically the section where people will post they are seeking to share / rent a room in your house. 1 common theme I have noticed thru the years is a high majority of them have these few things in common: 1. Young 20s 30s - 2. on disability 3. offer to clean the house yard work etc for reduced rent ( now if you are 'disabled' and can mow my fucking grass and clean the house ... why cant you GET A FUCKING JOB that pays you so you are NOT on disability ? ) I could go on and on ... Of course I only rent out rooms to girls who are gainfully employed full time ( and pretty hot usually ) Just sayin ... seems to me the system is being worked just like the FSA has invaded the welfare system. Its a money grab - to put it in plain English As stated above .. I have NO PROBLEMS someone collecting disability when its rightfully earned / qualified for. I am sure some run into resistance trying to get qualified while others must breeze right through the process. That's why us working folks see the deductions we do on our pay stubs |
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My brother in law, Marine, EMT, LEO, and now nurse, has server back issues and is in constant pain. He can't work but the SSA won't approve his disability. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
My brother in law, Marine, EMT, LEO, and now nurse, has server back issues and is in constant pain. He can't work but the SSA won't approve his disability. Has he hired a lawyer? Everyone I know who got denied and then hired a lawyer got approved. Quoted:
I've seen people that have their toddlers on disability. One woman with four kids get five disability checks. If you watch the documentary "The Wild and Wonderful Whites of West Virginia" they say how the father became an expert on SS disability and got all his kids on it. |
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When Clinton cut back on lifetime welfare a lot of those people just transitioned to ssd. There are companies that go though county welfare rolls and are paid by the county to help welfare rats get ssd.
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When I had been retired for about a year I got a letter from some law office telling me I should apply for disability. Never heard of them and tossed the letter in the trash.
About a month later I got an angry letter telling me I hadn't responded and should do so immediately. I tossed that one also and never heard from them again. The program needs to be abolished (as if a politician would vote against the vote buying scheme). |
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http://apps.npr.org/unfit-for-work/
They found some town in Alabama or wherever where the entire town is on disability |
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Don't know. My brother in law, Marine, EMT, LEO, and now nurse, has server back issues and is in constant pain. He can't work but the SSA won't approve his disability. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So I take see a shitton of young people with no medical problems and on no medications that have disability for some reason or other....Most of them are in for stuff like back pain/toothache/headache/rash/sneezed once.... The frequency of these people blows my mind. Is there some class they took to learn how to be a shithead and where can I sign up to take it? But seriously what's the process of becoming disabled as a lot of these people are obviously healthy and have no issues other than "my back hurts". Don't know. My brother in law, Marine, EMT, LEO, and now nurse, has server back issues and is in constant pain. He can't work but the SSA won't approve his disability. That's because all of the lazy, malingering shit heels in the world. It's the same reason things are locked up on retail shelves, and the same reason that if you ask your doc for pain medicine, the initial response will be, "Unh-hunh" with a sidelong glance. |
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http://apps.npr.org/unfit-for-work/ They found some town in Alabama or wherever where the entire town is on disability View Quote It's called laziness. Half the country is on unemployment, welfare or disability. Think about the long term effects. The Medicare/Medicaid coffers are about to run out. How is the government going to shore it up? That's right, the Social Security Trust Fund. So, instead of Social Security collapsing in 2035, it will now collapse in 2025. Good times |
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Its big business. I remember watching a special investigation about the practice in rural NC. There was a disability lawyer that owned his own practice and rented the medical building to the doc that diagnosed the disability. The medical office and law office shared the same parking lot. There was a clear partnership between the two. In that region, around 30% of residents were on disability. There was even a judge in it. The feds sent it some investigators to break up the scheme. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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But seriously what's the process of becoming disabled as a lot of these people are obviously health and have no issues other than "my back hurts". Go on the SS website and apply, get examined by doc they send you to, and get approved or denied. If you get denied, hire a lawyer, reapply, and get approved. That's how the guys I know got it. Then there's the pill pushing doctors, OxyContin ran rampant in the hills until the state went after the doctors. Now it's meth and heroin. |
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I'm at 60% disability due to being exposed to a shitload of caustic chemicals in the military, which caused me to have severe bilateral Reynaud's disease (it's like having horrible arthritis in both my hands). Been that way since I was 23 and it only gets worse as time goes on. Also have tinnitus from all the jet noise. I actually had no intention of ever filing a claim but my parents neighbor works for the VA and when he found out I had problems but refused to file a claim he chewed my ass real good, something he was apparently accustomed to be a retired Master Chief . I mostly filed so if it gets way worse later on in life it was on paper. I still very much work and use what I get from the VA to pay my mortgage.
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How much does this pay? Is it a percentage of your average income over a period or some fixed government number like $1324.56 a month? Inquiring minds need to know!
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But seriously what's the process of becoming disabled as a lot of these people are obviously health and have no issues other than "my back hurts". Go on the SS website and apply, get examined by doc they send you to, and get approved or denied. If you get denied, hire a lawyer, reapply, and get approved. That's how the guys I know got it. |
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And here I am arguing with my doctor not to go on disability. Doc dont like the idea that someone with my (just diagnosed M.S.) condition is a LEO . I'm so close to retirement and a full pension that I have to stick it out. Its hard to get out of bed some days and my medication makes it hard to even stand up on the days I take it (I am on FMLA on those days). Doc cant make me take disability (I dont think), and I would be embarrassed to even be on it honestly.
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There is abuse from every direction. Hell just look at the military for starters.
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