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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:29:40 PM EDT
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I bet she votes for Bernie.
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:30:57 PM EDT
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At some point these people need to be cut off.
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:31:09 PM EDT
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I give her credit for wanting to improve herself, but she made some pretty bad decisions along the way. That kind of debt can buy a house and car.
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:31:34 PM EDT
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I bet she votes for Bernie. Being fair, and not supporting Bernie in anyway, something will have to be done about college debt. What that is I do not know, but the current levels of it are going to seriously hamper our future economy and are utterly unsustainable. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:32:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I give her credit for wanting to improve herself, but she made some pretty bad decisions along the way. That kind of debt can buy a house and car. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:33:43 PM EDT
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She's a dumbass and should not be around children.
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:33:47 PM EDT
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Being fair, and not supporting Bernie in anyway, something will have to be done about college debt. What that is I do not know, but the current levels of it are going to seriously hamper our future economy and are utterly unsustainable. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I bet she votes for Bernie. Being fair, and not supporting Bernie in anyway, something will have to be done about college debt. What that is I do not know, but the current levels of it are going to seriously hamper our future economy and are utterly unsustainable. Nothing can be done about retarded people who make shitty decisions. Whether it be college debt, credit card debt, housing debit, vehicle debt, etc, etc. You can't fix stupid. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:33:51 PM EDT
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The line that gets lost in all the writers Boo Hoo:
"“I am not a victim,” said Ms. Kelley, who shared her loan documents with me. “I made choices.”" |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:34:08 PM EDT
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Being fair, and not supporting Bernie in anyway, something will have to be done about college debt. What that is I do not know, but the current levels of it are going to seriously hamper our future economy and are utterly unsustainable. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I bet she votes for Bernie. Being fair, and not supporting Bernie in anyway, something will have to be done about college debt. What that is I do not know, but the current levels of it are going to seriously hamper our future economy and are utterly unsustainable. To be fair......whatever is decided, needs to compensate those of who made decisions that didn't put us in a hole. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:34:20 PM EDT
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What the hell did she do to roll up that kind of a debt???
Four years of college at the place I'm about to graduate from (a University) would run less than 1/8th of that. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:34:45 PM EDT
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Being fair, and not supporting Bernie in anyway, something will have to be done about college debt. What that is I do not know, but the current levels of it are going to seriously hamper our future economy and are utterly unsustainable. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I bet she votes for Bernie. Being fair, and not supporting Bernie in anyway, something will have to be done about college debt. What that is I do not know, but the current levels of it are going to seriously hamper our future economy and are utterly unsustainable. Yeah, stop making ridiculous, shitty loans and make these retards pay back the money they borrowed. Or the banks can fail, fuck it. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:34:46 PM EDT
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Did she got to Harvard or something?
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:34:57 PM EDT
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Did she got to Harvard or something?
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:35:53 PM EDT
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This is symptom of the "college is a right" issue in society right now.
Along with the "everyone needs to go to college" issue. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:35:54 PM EDT
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Thank goodness she didn't become a math teacher.
Her ex husband was a genius compared to her. Since she also accumulated debt in her name and not her kids for their education, she is still actively bilking her lenders and ultimately, the taxpayer. As far as I'm concerned, she can live in the poorhouse the rest of her life. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:36:24 PM EDT
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She had taken out her first student loan 25 years earlier and had yet to make a single payment.  |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:36:24 PM EDT
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What the hell did she do to roll up that kind of a debt??? Four years of college at the place I'm about to graduate from (a University) would run less than 1/8th of that. Deferred payments for 25 years |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:36:44 PM EDT
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There must be a point once you get past that initial sick to your stomach feelings and it's not even like it's real money anymore.
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:37:21 PM EDT
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There is much truth in this diagnosis. But it does not explain the plight of Liz Kelley, a Missouri high school teacher and mother of four who made a series of unremarkable decisions about college and borrowing. She now owes the federal government $410,000, and counting. This is a staggering and unusual sum. The average undergraduate who borrows leaves school with about $30,000 in debt. But Ms. Kelley’s circumstances are not unique. Of the 43.3 million borrowers with outstanding federal student loans, 1.8 percent, or 779,000 people, owe $150,000 or more. And 346,000 owe more than $200,000. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/29/upshot/student-debt-in-america-lend-with-a-smile-collect-with-a-fist.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=mini-moth®ion=top-stories-below&WT.nav=top-stories-below I'd say that her decision were pretty remarkable. Student loans aren't to live off of unless your major will gaurentee a ROI that will cover it. A simple cost benefit analysis (as in, I want to be a teacher and probably shouldn't borrow a1/2 million dollars). Some fucktards haven't figured that out. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:37:24 PM EDT
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Anyone who goes to college is a fool. No pity.
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:37:32 PM EDT
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Being fair, and not supporting Bernie in anyway, something will have to be done about college debt. What that is I do not know, but the current levels of it are going to seriously hamper our future economy and are utterly unsustainable. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I bet she votes for Bernie. Being fair, and not supporting Bernie in anyway, something will have to be done about college debt. What that is I do not know, but the current levels of it are going to seriously hamper our future economy and are utterly unsustainable. How about colleges eliminate all degrees that end in "studies" and get the damn government out of the loan business? |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:37:44 PM EDT
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I'm a fast reader.... And it's easy to see who didn't read the article before posting!
Sucks to be her. The issue is more than her bad decisions. It is also how the law allows abuse not only by the lender but also the educational institutions that push these loans harder than crack dealers! |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:38:52 PM EDT
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She's a dumbass and should not be around children. Yup. How can someone THIS stupid be allowed to teach children? I swear the movie "Idiocracy" will be viewed as a documentary in the near future. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:39:20 PM EDT
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There must be a point once you get past that initial sick to your stomach feelings and it's not even like it's real money anymore. It's "free" because they don't ha the foresight to be good stewards of their own future. When they don't have initial repercussions because they borrowed, and have the mentality I just described, it's a recipe for disaster. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:39:40 PM EDT
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Anyone who goes to college is a fool. No pity. Eh, I wouldn't say that. Some fields, such as the medical field and engineering fields need to have formalized education. Trades and technical folks have no business going to college. Don't even get me started on degrees in "women's issues" and "social work". A friend of the family spent 4 years going to an ivy league school to get a degree in "social work", so she could make 30k a year working on CPS cases. I'm pretty sure anyone with a pulse can do that. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:40:43 PM EDT
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Nothing can be done about retarded people who make shitty decisions. Whether it be college debt, credit card debt, housing debit, vehicle debt, etc, etc. You can't fix stupid. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I bet she votes for Bernie. Being fair, and not supporting Bernie in anyway, something will have to be done about college debt. What that is I do not know, but the current levels of it are going to seriously hamper our future economy and are utterly unsustainable. Nothing can be done about retarded people who make shitty decisions. Whether it be college debt, credit card debt, housing debit, vehicle debt, etc, etc. You can't fix stupid. Not disagreeing with you, but do you really think these people will ever pay off their loans? A lot of the idiots in my generation get worthless degrees and are so narcissistic they are nearly unemployable. Add in the subsidizing of college education with government backed loans that are not able to be discharged with bankruptcy and the spending power of this generation to support our economy is being drastically reduced. Something is going to have to give somewhere.
ETA: Full disclosure... I have about $30k in loans that I'm working on paying off. I do not, nor do I wish for anyone else other than me to be responsible for them or for their repayment. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:40:52 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:41:20 PM EDT
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Being fair, and not supporting Bernie in anyway, something will have to be done about college debt. What that is I do not know, but the current levels of it are going to seriously hamper our future economy and are utterly unsustainable. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I bet she votes for Bernie. Being fair, and not supporting Bernie in anyway, something will have to be done about college debt. What that is I do not know, but the current levels of it are going to seriously hamper our future economy and are utterly unsustainable. Nope. I went to school (a private university, so more expensive than state school), took on debt, got a good job in the field I studied, and paid it off in 10 years. There are TONS of scholarship funds out there, and multiple degrees that actually generate enough income to pay off the debt. It is when people go to school to get obscure degrees in fields that offer very little ROI that people start calling for free tuition. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:41:37 PM EDT
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4 kids and massive debt . She has made more than 1 poor decision
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:41:41 PM EDT
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Deferred payments for 25 years Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What the hell did she do to roll up that kind of a debt??? Four years of college at the place I'm about to graduate from (a University) would run less than 1/8th of that. Deferred payments for 25 years What a stupid ass. I hope to get my loan paid off ASAP upon graduation. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:41:42 PM EDT
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I give her credit for wanting to improve herself, but she made some pretty bad decisions along the way. That kind of debt can buy a house and car. No, she made a lot of bad choices along the way. She didn't make a single payment on the loans in 25 years. Outside of the uncontrollable life events, e.g. illness, she still made lots of bad choices. Compound interest is the greatest and the worst thing depending on which way it is cutting. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:41:48 PM EDT
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It's "free" because they don't ha the foresight to be good stewards of their own future. When they don't have initial repercussions because they borrowed, and have the mentality I just described, it's a recipe for disaster. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There must be a point once you get past that initial sick to your stomach feelings and it's not even like it's real money anymore. It's "free" because they don't ha the foresight to be good stewards of their own future. When they don't have initial repercussions because they borrowed, and have the mentality I just described, it's a recipe for disaster. Yea. Maybe they never even get that initial gut feeling. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:42:06 PM EDT
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All she needs to do to see what an idiot looks like is to find a mirror.
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:42:17 PM EDT
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This is symptom of the "college is a right" issue in society right now. Along with the "everyone needs to go to college" issue. The left wants everyone to go to college so they can use the college system to further indoctrinate the students. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:42:26 PM EDT
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Anyone who goes to college is a fool. No pity. No anyone who goes to an expensive college and does not get a stem degree is a fool. if you want to be a teacher go to a cheap state or community college and pay cash. if you want to be a doctor or a lawyer you can go to harvard because your career will allow you to pay for it. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:42:33 PM EDT
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I think teaching should be the last occupation she needs to be doing...that and financial advisor...
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:42:53 PM EDT
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she needs to pay back every penny of it
people with student loan debt come across like they had nothing to do with having it and it should be the govt's problem |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:43:02 PM EDT
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Not disagreeing with you, but do you really think these people will ever pay off their loans? A lot of the idiots in my generation get worthless degrees and are so narcissistic they are nearly unemployable. Add in the subsidizing of college education with government backed loans that are not able to be discharged with bankruptcy and the spending power of this generation to support our economy is being drastically reduced. Something is going to have to give somewhere. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I bet she votes for Bernie. Being fair, and not supporting Bernie in anyway, something will have to be done about college debt. What that is I do not know, but the current levels of it are going to seriously hamper our future economy and are utterly unsustainable. Nothing can be done about retarded people who make shitty decisions. Whether it be college debt, credit card debt, housing debit, vehicle debt, etc, etc. You can't fix stupid. Not disagreeing with you, but do you really think these people will ever pay off their loans? A lot of the idiots in my generation get worthless degrees and are so narcissistic they are nearly unemployable. Add in the subsidizing of college education with government backed loans that are not able to be discharged with bankruptcy and the spending power of this generation to support our economy is being drastically reduced. Something is going to have to give somewhere. Oh, I agree with you 100%. The only solution I'm aware of is to completely do away with college lending. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:43:14 PM EDT
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A nice house and a nice car. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I give her credit for wanting to improve herself, but she made some pretty bad decisions along the way. That kind of debt can buy a house and car. You could throw in a rental house or two around here for that kind of coin. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:44:17 PM EDT
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Nope. I went to school (a private university, so more expensive than state school), took on debt, got a good job in the field I studied, and paid it off in 10 years. There are TONS of scholarship funds out there, and multiple degrees that actually generate enough income to pay off the debt. It is when people go to school to get obscure degrees in fields that offer very little ROI that people start calling for free tuition. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I bet she votes for Bernie. Being fair, and not supporting Bernie in anyway, something will have to be done about college debt. What that is I do not know, but the current levels of it are going to seriously hamper our future economy and are utterly unsustainable. Nope. I went to school (a private university, so more expensive than state school), took on debt, got a good job in the field I studied, and paid it off in 10 years. There are TONS of scholarship funds out there, and multiple degrees that actually generate enough income to pay off the debt. It is when people go to school to get obscure degrees in fields that offer very little ROI that people start calling for free tuition. If you work a part time job during your sophomore and senior year of high school, and work a full time job through all 4 years of college, you can graduate debt free with zero scholarships. It's actually quite easy. Then again, that would require actual work ethic and less of the "entitlement" mentality. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:44:35 PM EDT
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She should have spent some of that money on an exercise bike.
She's a fat-assed pig. Who in the fuck would stick their dick on that fat-assed whore to make babies. 
Fuck her, at this rate she'll never pay back her loans. She'll be on the bankruptcy wagon in 3, 2, 1. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:45:46 PM EDT
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Being fair, and not supporting Bernie in anyway, something will have to be done about college debt. What that is I do not know, but the current levels of it are going to seriously hamper our future economy and are utterly unsustainable. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I bet she votes for Bernie. Being fair, and not supporting Bernie in anyway, something will have to be done about college debt. What that is I do not know, but the current levels of it are going to seriously hamper our future economy and are utterly unsustainable. Imagine what will happen to a society that takes debt and does not pay it back. $19 trillion will be nothing. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:46:19 PM EDT
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The left wants everyone to go to college so they can use the college system to further indoctrinate the students. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This is symptom of the "college is a right" issue in society right now. Along with the "everyone needs to go to college" issue. The left wants everyone to go to college so they can use the college system to further indoctrinate the students. Well, sure, but that's only part of it. The "working" class is flooded with shitty 4 year degrees to the point that employers are mandating degrees for entry level positions, because they can. Basically the whole thing is cheapened. Outside of specialty fields, the vast majority of college grads never find jobs in their field of study. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:46:26 PM EDT
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Not disagreeing with you, but do you really think these people will ever pay off their loans? A lot of the idiots in my generation get worthless degrees and are so narcissistic they are nearly unemployable. Add in the subsidizing of college education with government backed loans that are not able to be discharged with bankruptcy and the spending power of this generation to support our economy is being drastically reduced. Something is going to have to give somewhere.
ETA: Full disclosure... I have about $30k in loans that I'm working on paying off. I do not, nor do I wish for anyone else other than me to be responsible for them or for their repayment. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I bet she votes for Bernie. Being fair, and not supporting Bernie in anyway, something will have to be done about college debt. What that is I do not know, but the current levels of it are going to seriously hamper our future economy and are utterly unsustainable. Nothing can be done about retarded people who make shitty decisions. Whether it be college debt, credit card debt, housing debit, vehicle debt, etc, etc. You can't fix stupid. Not disagreeing with you, but do you really think these people will ever pay off their loans? A lot of the idiots in my generation get worthless degrees and are so narcissistic they are nearly unemployable. Add in the subsidizing of college education with government backed loans that are not able to be discharged with bankruptcy and the spending power of this generation to support our economy is being drastically reduced. Something is going to have to give somewhere.
ETA: Full disclosure... I have about $30k in loans that I'm working on paying off. I do not, nor do I wish for anyone else other than me to be responsible for them or for their repayment. They can sell their blood, or their organs, or their brains seeing as they're not using them anyway. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:47:21 PM EDT
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How is that even fucking possible to run up that much debt on just school?
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:47:30 PM EDT
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I know of a Reed college graduate and a law school grad who has failed the board exam twice ...owes over 200k and works in a coffee shop.
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:47:48 PM EDT
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ETA: Full disclosure... I have about $30k in loans that I'm working on paying off. I do not, nor do I wish for anyone else other than me to be responsible for them or for their repayment. I bet it pisses you off to see these worthless fucks getting sympathy degrees on the taxpayer dime. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:47:57 PM EDT
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What the hell did she do to roll up that kind of a debt??? Four years of college at the place I'm about to graduate from (a University) would run less than 1/8th of that. Can put 2 doctors through med school for her english degree. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:48:40 PM EDT
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I bet it pisses you off to see these worthless fucks getting sympathy degrees on the taxpayer dime. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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ETA: Full disclosure... I have about $30k in loans that I'm working on paying off. I do not, nor do I wish for anyone else other than me to be responsible for them or for their repayment. I bet it pisses you off to see these worthless fucks getting sympathy degrees on the taxpayer dime. You have no idea. 
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Posted: 11/27/2015 7:49:14 PM EDT
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Anyone who goes to college is a fool. No pity. Found one. |
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