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Posted: 11/27/2015 5:31:44 PM EDT
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It's not illegal if you pay your tax and get your stamp... |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 5:33:52 PM EDT
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Very first use of US troops to quell a domestic uprising, the Whiskey Rebellion. Happened in 1796 if my recollection is correct. Untaxed liquor has been a no go ever since.
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Posted: 11/27/2015 5:34:59 PM EDT
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It's not illegal if you pay your tax and get your stamp... Just like firearm mufflers 
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Posted: 11/27/2015 5:35:17 PM EDT
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Because the man doesn't trust you with your own booze.
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Posted: 11/27/2015 5:35:30 PM EDT
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Honestly it's such a stupid law. I think it infringes on an individual's personal rights.
Selling it is one thing, but you need to pay a tax for personal use? Even if you already paid taxes on the ingredients? |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 5:35:39 PM EDT
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What's the difference between brewing your own beer and distilling your own spirits?
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Posted: 11/27/2015 5:36:34 PM EDT
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Is saying FATF appropriate here?
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Posted: 11/27/2015 5:36:58 PM EDT
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I think you are allowed to distill for your personal use. You can't sell it though
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Posted: 11/27/2015 5:37:05 PM EDT
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You don't need any license or stamp to distill.
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Posted: 11/27/2015 5:37:21 PM EDT
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The taxman wants his cut. He doesn't give a shit about anyone's safety.
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Posted: 11/27/2015 5:37:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think you are allowed to distill for your personal use. You can't sell it though Beer and wine is Okay. No distilling for drinking |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 5:38:13 PM EDT
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What's the difference between brewing your own beer and distilling your own spirits? That is what I don't understand. Beer and wine are fine. But distill? Bad boy. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 5:38:45 PM EDT
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I think you are allowed to distill for your personal use. You can't sell it though No. The only way to distill ethanol without a license is for fuel, and then you must register your still with the BATFE. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 5:40:00 PM EDT
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Because uncle sugar needs his tax money. Look at the shitstorm you would incur if you are caught fueling up with non taxed diesel
No other reason |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 5:40:37 PM EDT
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Nope. Beer and wine is Okay. No distilling for drinking Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think you are allowed to distill for your personal use. You can't sell it though Beer and wine is Okay. No distilling for drinking It's illegal to concentrate alcohol by removing water by any means, including freezing. So even apple jack is illegal. 
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Posted: 11/27/2015 5:41:19 PM EDT
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Beer and wine was allowed by a change in the law.
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Posted: 11/27/2015 5:41:36 PM EDT
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The electric water distillers look just like the alcohol ones do in the countries where it's legal.
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Posted: 11/27/2015 5:42:37 PM EDT
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You don't need any license or stamp to distill. Distilling water is okay. Distilling alcohol is very bad, legally. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 5:42:52 PM EDT
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I hope every one understands that these stills are to be used for distilling water.
I use a lot of distilled water when rust bluing guns. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 5:43:26 PM EDT
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The electric water distillers look just like the alcohol ones do in the countries where it's legal. So do the essential oil stills. 
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Posted: 11/27/2015 5:44:18 PM EDT
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It's all about the $$. The Feds and the states all dip their beaks in the liquor business. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 5:44:58 PM EDT
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I think you are allowed to distill for your personal use. You can't sell it though Nope. No distilling of alcohol for human consumption without permission and paying the taxes under ANY circumstances. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 5:47:28 PM EDT
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Sooooo stupid.
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Posted: 11/27/2015 5:49:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because uncle sugar needs his tax money. Look at the shitstorm you would incur if you are caught fueling up with non taxed diesel No other reason Well, if you just want to run around your yard in circles in your dually, refine away. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 5:49:46 PM EDT
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Having the equipment is legal.
Having the ingredients is legal. As soon as you light the burners you're in federal violation and subject to arrest for MULTIPLE infractions of federal law. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 5:50:17 PM EDT
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What's the difference between brewing your own beer and distilling your own spirits? Government arrogance. It comes from busybodies who think they know better than everybody else. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 5:50:38 PM EDT
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It's illegal to concentrate alcohol by removing water by any means, including freezing. So even apple jack is illegal. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think you are allowed to distill for your personal use. You can't sell it though Beer and wine is Okay. No distilling for drinking It's illegal to concentrate alcohol by removing water by any means, including freezing. So even apple jack is illegal. I call bullshit on this, unless it's just New York being extra retarded. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 5:53:32 PM EDT
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I think we should write a letter to the ATF for clarification.
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Posted: 11/27/2015 5:53:40 PM EDT
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Fun fact: The federal government used to get a good bit of it's revenue from alcohol taxes. That's why the BATFE's predictors were called revenuers and worked under the department of the treasury: they ensured the government got their revenue. Thus the prohibition movement pushed for the income tax in order to create an alternate tax source to make prohibition feasible. However, after the ratification of the 21st amendment neither the income tax nor the alcohol tax statutes were repealed. Terrible things we still have as a result of prohibition:
Income Tax National Firearms Act NASCAR |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 5:54:43 PM EDT
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Is saying FATF appropriate here? Nope. They don't have anything to do with getting set up as a distiller. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 5:55:02 PM EDT
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I call bullshit on this, unless it's just New York being extra retarded. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think you are allowed to distill for your personal use. You can't sell it though Beer and wine is Okay. No distilling for drinking It's illegal to concentrate alcohol by removing water by any means, including freezing. So even apple jack is illegal. I call bullshit on this, unless it's just New York being extra retarded. Nope, thats federal , although NY is retarded. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 5:55:24 PM EDT
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Follow the money. If the Gov can tax it, it's a revenue stream that must not be interrupted. If you bypass the Gov revenue stream you will meet with legislation to prevent it.
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Posted: 11/27/2015 5:55:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I call bullshit on this, unless it's just New York being extra retarded. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I think you are allowed to distill for your personal use. You can't sell it though Beer and wine is Okay. No distilling for drinking It's illegal to concentrate alcohol by removing water by any means, including freezing. So even apple jack is illegal. I call bullshit on this, unless it's just New York being extra retarded. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 5:56:37 PM EDT
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Nope. No distilling of alcohol for human consumption without permission and paying the taxes under ANY circumstances. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think you are allowed to distill for your personal use. You can't sell it though Nope. No distilling of alcohol for human consumption without permission and paying the taxes under ANY circumstances. Ha, i bet that works out just like no more MG's,registration for suppressors, and SBR's.... |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 5:56:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nope. They don't have anything to do with getting set up as a distiller. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Is saying FATF appropriate here? Nope. They don't have anything to do with getting set up as a distiller. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 5:56:52 PM EDT
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You can get a free (I think) permit to distill ethanol to be used as a fuel.
http://www.ttb.gov/forms/f511074.pdf |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 5:58:13 PM EDT
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It's not illegal to distill alcohol. It's illegal to distill it and sell it without giving the government their cut.
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Posted: 11/27/2015 5:58:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You can get a free (I think) permit to distill ethanol to be used as a fuel. http://www.ttb.gov/forms/f511074.pdf |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 5:59:12 PM EDT
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Home brewing is one of the few things we can thank President Jimmy Carter for today.
Home distilling will eventually be legalized in a similar manner, or at least I hope it will be. But today? The difference between home brew and home distillation is a few years in federal PMITA prison. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 5:59:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's not illegal to distill alcohol. It's illegal to distill it and sell it without giving the government their cut. This is legally incorrect. You can't brew up a batch of 'shine for yourself legally. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 6:01:28 PM EDT
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It's illegal to concentrate alcohol by removing water by any means, including freezing. So even apple jack is illegal. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think you are allowed to distill for your personal use. You can't sell it though Beer and wine is Okay. No distilling for drinking It's illegal to concentrate alcohol by removing water by any means, including freezing. So even apple jack is illegal. Better notify Jack Daniels, Jim Beam, etc. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 6:01:56 PM EDT
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This is like reading a machine gun thread in GD... |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 6:02:59 PM EDT
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They will be the ones to bust your still and shoot your dog though if you don't do it legally. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is saying FATF appropriate here? Nope. They don't have anything to do with getting set up as a distiller. You have more to worry about from the state ABC type agencies than from the ATF. Unless you are trafficking shine in interstate commerce. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 6:03:11 PM EDT
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It's not illegal to distill alcohol. It's illegal to distill it and sell it without giving the government their cut. Wrong. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 6:03:55 PM EDT
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It's not illegal if you pay your tax and get your stamp... There is more to it as you likely know. You have to distill a certain amount per year, like hundreds of gallons, and there are building requirements. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 6:04:11 PM EDT
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The liquor industry doesn't want you too.
If someone proposed a ballot initiative that would legalize it for personal use, MADD and liquor companies would unite, and shoot it down, and follow up with a magazine worth of anchor shots. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 6:07:31 PM EDT
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Better notify Jack Daniels, Jim Beam, etc. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think you are allowed to distill for your personal use. You can't sell it though Beer and wine is Okay. No distilling for drinking It's illegal to concentrate alcohol by removing water by any means, including freezing. So even apple jack is illegal. Better notify Jack Daniels, Jim Beam, etc. I meant at home, without a license as in the context of this post, don't be obtuse. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 6:07:35 PM EDT
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For people interested in how to do home distillation and more specifically how easy it is there are plenty of very good english language resources on the internet. Most of these are from places like Australia where personal use distilling is not illegal. However, much like building your own suppressor, I am not advocating that someone in the US proceed without the proper paperwork from the government.
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Posted: 11/27/2015 6:09:13 PM EDT
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There is more to it as you likely know. You have to distill a certain amount per year, like hundreds of gallons, and there are building requirements. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's not illegal if you pay your tax and get your stamp... There is more to it as you likely know. You have to distill a certain amount per year, like hundreds of gallons, and there are building requirements. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Granted, but the similarities are, well, by design... |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 6:11:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Granted, but the similarities are, well, by design... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: It's not illegal if you pay your tax and get your stamp... There is more to it as you likely know. You have to distill a certain amount per year, like hundreds of gallons, and there are building requirements. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Granted, but the similarities are, well, by design... |
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