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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:31:28 PM EDT
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Hehe, nice.
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:31:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:33:31 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:34:22 PM EDT
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Rock
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:36:17 PM EDT
[#5]
Burka burka motherfucker
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:39:03 PM EDT
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People pushing back |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:40:55 PM EDT
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Burka burka motherfucker Damn straight. |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:41:46 PM EDT
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People pushing back Wait does that make it gay? |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:42:33 PM EDT
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Damn straight. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Burka burka motherfucker Damn straight. |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:44:40 PM EDT
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Next step: ban islam.
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:48:14 PM EDT
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 Yoga pants for the hot hadji girls!!!! Do it now!!! |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:48:37 PM EDT
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Thread title is misleading. Only one Canton, Ticino, has done it so far.
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:50:55 PM EDT
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Not a fan of government legislating these kind of things.
I'm all for freedom of association by private businesses and people being trespassed who don't comply. |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:52:06 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:53:02 PM EDT
[#15]
The new muzzie rape capitol of the world is taking some back.
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:53:15 PM EDT
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People pushing back I think that is why Trump's poll numbers are so high. Good for the people. |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:54:56 PM EDT
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In b4 the bombings.
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:55:11 PM EDT
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Now......who was it that had THE BELT again? Aloha, Mark |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:57:56 PM EDT
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Good
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Posted: 11/25/2015 11:06:42 PM EDT
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I am totally and completely ok with this.
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Posted: 11/25/2015 11:07:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not a fan of government legislating these kind of things. I'm all for freedom of association by private businesses and people being trespassed who don't comply. Same here. I don't like the idea of gov telling people what they can and can't wear. |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 11:17:11 PM EDT
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OUTSTANDING.... Team Switzerland fuck yeah.
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Posted: 11/25/2015 11:18:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Same here. I don't like the idea of gov telling people what they can and can't wear. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Not a fan of government legislating these kind of things. I'm all for freedom of association by private businesses and people being trespassed who don't comply. Same here. I don't like the idea of gov telling people what they can and can't wear. Normally agree but in this case, it's an official push-back against muslims by a government. About time a government body showed some scrotum. |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 11:21:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Normally agree but in this case, it's an official push-back against muslims by a government. About time a government body showed some scrotum. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Not a fan of government legislating these kind of things. I'm all for freedom of association by private businesses and people being trespassed who don't comply. Same here. I don't like the idea of gov telling people what they can and can't wear. Normally agree but in this case, it's an official push-back against muslims by a government. About time a government body showed some scrotum. What's sad is that if they were doing their actual job as most of us on this site see it, the ban would be unnecessary in the first place. |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 11:23:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The new muzzie rape capitol of the world is taking some back. Isn't that Sweden? |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 11:25:37 PM EDT
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Good
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Posted: 11/25/2015 11:32:32 PM EDT
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Normally agree but in this case, it's an official push-back against muslims by a government. About time a government body showed some scrotum. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not a fan of government legislating these kind of things. I'm all for freedom of association by private businesses and people being trespassed who don't comply. Same here. I don't like the idea of gov telling people what they can and can't wear. Normally agree but in this case, it's an official push-back against muslims by a government. About time a government body showed some scrotum. I just can't rationalize it when it comes to the principles of liberty. You simply can't legislate safety. |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 11:36:44 PM EDT
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Banning them is just as bad as demanding them. |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 11:38:39 PM EDT
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Just spoke with a guy from there. They passed a law, no more building mosques. Currently have 4
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Posted: 11/25/2015 11:39:46 PM EDT
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Fuck, yes!
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Posted: 11/25/2015 11:40:58 PM EDT
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Hehe, nice. Not nice. That had an incredibly simple way to identify the likely suspects, now they'll blend in more easily. . . . edit: but, it is the thought that counts... |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 11:45:56 PM EDT
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Good.
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Just spoke with a guy from there. They passed a law, no more building mosques. Currently have 4 And gooder. 
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Posted: 11/25/2015 11:50:19 PM EDT
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. Banning them is just as bad as demanding them. I'm pretty sure most states in the U.S. have laws against wearing masks in public. So we're ahead of Switzerland in this regard. 
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Posted: 11/25/2015 11:54:21 PM EDT
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. Banning them is just as bad as demanding them. I'm guessing the rationale is that the women are being forced to be subservient and may not be on board with wearing the thing in the first place. This is probably done with the welfare of the women in mind. The result is that these women won't be allowed to leave the house now. |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 11:56:19 PM EDT
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What amazes me is how obtuse so many members of this forum can be, laws like this are really useful for creating a hostile environment that can encourage unwanted visitors to leave. Not a bad thing IMHO.
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Posted: 11/25/2015 11:57:56 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/25/2015 11:59:41 PM EDT
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I just can't rationalize it when it comes to the principles of liberty. You simply can't legislate safety. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not a fan of government legislating these kind of things. I'm all for freedom of association by private businesses and people being trespassed who don't comply. Same here. I don't like the idea of gov telling people what they can and can't wear. Normally agree but in this case, it's an official push-back against muslims by a government. About time a government body showed some scrotum. I just can't rationalize it when it comes to the principles of liberty. You simply can't legislate safety. If you want to defend the principles of liberty may have to compromise because you also have to recognize that you have people of an ideology who are out to change your free society into what they want it to be. The tendency towards being liberal on that ends up allowing them to work against you. If their ideology was a passive one of live and let live, it wouldn't be an issue - there wouldn't be a ban, and there wouldn't be a problem with burqas. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 12:01:15 AM EDT
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Go sons and daughters of William Tell! Go Switzerland!
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Posted: 11/26/2015 12:03:19 AM EDT
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Not a fan of government legislating these kind of things. I'm all for freedom of association by private businesses and people being trespassed who don't comply. I'm pretty sure Switzerland does not have the US Bill of Rights. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 12:09:20 AM EDT
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I'm pretty sure Switzerland does not have the US Bill of Rights. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not a fan of government legislating these kind of things. I'm all for freedom of association by private businesses and people being trespassed who don't comply. I'm pretty sure Switzerland does not have the US Bill of Rights. Liberty and natural rights are a universal concept, regardless of other nations constitutions. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 12:13:31 AM EDT
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40k Muslim women in Switzerland?
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Posted: 11/26/2015 12:13:43 AM EDT
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Liberty and natural rights are a universal concept, regardless of other nations constitutions. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not a fan of government legislating these kind of things. I'm all for freedom of association by private businesses and people being trespassed who don't comply. I'm pretty sure Switzerland does not have the US Bill of Rights. Liberty and natural rights are a universal concept, regardless of other nations constitutions. Then, you are against men forcing women to wear the burka? |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 12:15:48 AM EDT
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If you want to defend the principles of liberty may have to compromise because you also have to recognize that you have people of an ideology who are out to change your free society into what they want it to be. The tendency towards being liberal on that ends up allowing them to work against you. If their ideology was a passive one of live and let live, it wouldn't be an issue - there wouldn't be a ban, and there wouldn't be a problem with burqas. Perhaps. I read your first statement as; in order to have freedom we have to limit freedom. I don't think there has ever been a macro successful application of that kind logic in the long term. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 12:16:05 AM EDT
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Liberty and natural rights are a universal concept, regardless of other nations constitutions. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not a fan of government legislating these kind of things. I'm all for freedom of association by private businesses and people being trespassed who don't comply. I'm pretty sure Switzerland does not have the US Bill of Rights. Liberty and natural rights are a universal concept, regardless of other nations constitutions. They should be universal... but they're not. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 12:18:13 AM EDT
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Sweet
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Posted: 11/26/2015 12:20:02 AM EDT
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Same here. I don't like the idea of gov telling people what they can and can't wear. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not a fan of government legislating these kind of things. I'm all for freedom of association by private businesses and people being trespassed who don't comply. Same here. I don't like the idea of gov telling people what they can and can't wear. Yep. Not surprised by the overwhelming support here, though. "If it doesn't have to do with me owning guns and cops not having cargo pockets, I don't care!" |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 12:21:32 AM EDT
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Then, you are against men forcing women to wear the burka? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not a fan of government legislating these kind of things. I'm all for freedom of association by private businesses and people being trespassed who don't comply. I'm pretty sure Switzerland does not have the US Bill of Rights. Liberty and natural rights are a universal concept, regardless of other nations constitutions. Then, you are against men forcing women to wear the burka? Yes, but not every woman who wears a Burka is forced to wear a Burka. Go after the people enforcing Islamic law on those who are unwilling to follow that law, not those who are willing participants. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 12:22:28 AM EDT
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They should be universal... but they're not. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not a fan of government legislating these kind of things. I'm all for freedom of association by private businesses and people being trespassed who don't comply. I'm pretty sure Switzerland does not have the US Bill of Rights. Liberty and natural rights are a universal concept, regardless of other nations constitutions. They should be universal... but they're not. These discussions are often discussed in the abstract, no? |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 12:24:43 AM EDT
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Perhaps. I read your first statement as; in order to have freedom we have to limit freedom. I don't think there has ever been a macro successful application of that kind logic in the long term. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you want to defend the principles of liberty may have to compromise because you also have to recognize that you have people of an ideology who are out to change your free society into what they want it to be. The tendency towards being liberal on that ends up allowing them to work against you. If their ideology was a passive one of live and let live, it wouldn't be an issue - there wouldn't be a ban, and there wouldn't be a problem with burqas. Perhaps. I read your first statement as; in order to have freedom we have to limit freedom. I don't think there has ever been a macro successful application of that kind logic in the long term. I think I corrected that and left out a word. Macro application is constant. We always have laws, we always have consequences for laws. Sometimes they're written, sometimes they're understood as part of human behavior. It's always applied to criminal behavior within a society. Most just laws are just extensions of "your right to swing your fist ends where my nose begins", but still, there is always that limitation. I agree that ideally it's very, very, very minimal. If you want to maintain the freedoms of your society, you may have to limit someone's exercise of a totalitarian belief system that seeks to dominate your belief system - and you may have to restrict that totalitarian belief system from ever normalizing. They're collectivists who believe in the submission of everyone to Allah as the greatest good; you're an individualist who believes that the individual's rights of self-actualization and self-development and self-improvement, whether on a secular or religious quest with their life, is the greatest good. If theirs demands you submit to the changes in your society they wish to make, you have to decide on compromising your beliefs to theirs, or compromising some of your liberty-minded beliefs to contain theirs. It's not ideal, but the world rarely is. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 12:26:49 AM EDT
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Yes, but not every woman who wears a Burka is forced to wear a Burka. Go after the people enforcing Islamic law on those who are unwilling to follow that law, not those who are willing participants. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not a fan of government legislating these kind of things. I'm all for freedom of association by private businesses and people being trespassed who don't comply. I'm pretty sure Switzerland does not have the US Bill of Rights. Liberty and natural rights are a universal concept, regardless of other nations constitutions. Then, you are against men forcing women to wear the burka? Yes, but not every woman who wears a Burka is forced to wear a Burka. Go after the people enforcing Islamic law on those who are unwilling to follow that law, not those who are willing participants. So, your position is that women voluntarily subject themselves to being 8th class citizens? |
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