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Posted: 10/3/2015 6:53:33 PM EDT
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OP talks about undercutting all the other remodelers in the area...complains about getting screwed over....
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Posted: 10/3/2015 6:53:59 PM EDT
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I'll bite.
How'd he steal $85 from you? |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 6:54:18 PM EDT
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People are generally fucking retarded.
A hundred years ago when I was managing an auto parts store, I had to fire my asst. manager because he stole $40 out of a register he closed down. 
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Posted: 10/3/2015 6:54:46 PM EDT
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OP talks about undercutting all the other remodelers in the area...complains about getting screwed over.... Free market economy, how does it work? |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 6:55:50 PM EDT
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Met a guy a couple years ago who called me when he lost his job. I do IT by trade but have had an on again off again remodeling business. I do really well with it and get a lot of business from work (aka IT)and I am great at it. Plus I don't need the cash and like working with my hands so I can undercut a lot of people. So I take this kid and teach him a trade. He goes from making $350 a week to $750-900. Then the POS screws me for $85 bucks. What is wrong with people other than really bad math $85>900???? Worst part is this kid goes to church so he tries to say he is a good guy because he does. I believe in God, but so many people hide behind the church. Sunday morning only Christians. I know some. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 6:57:43 PM EDT
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Met a guy a couple years ago who called me when he lost his job. I do IT by trade but have had an on again off again remodeling business. I do really well with it and get a lot of business from work (aka IT)and I am great at it. Plus I don't need the cash and like working with my hands so I can undercut a lot of people. So I take this kid and teach him a trade. He goes from making $350 a week to $750-900. Then the POS screws me for $85 bucks. What is wrong with people other than really bad math $85>900???? Worst part is this kid goes to church so he tries to say he is a good guy because he does. I believe in God, but so many people hide behind the church. Sorry someone did you wrong. Some people are like that. Church doesn't have anything to do with a kid making bad decisions. Going to church doesn't make you a Christian or a moral person, anymore than going into a garage makes you a car. Going to church doesn't keep you from making poor or terrible decisions. Churches have all kinds of people. I would hope that most churches realize that all are sinners and try to point you to salvation and God, but people are gonna do bad things regardless. Don't blame the church just b/c the kid uses church to justify him being good. Obviously, going to church didn't make him good - nor should it. It is a personal decision, not something that he gets through osmosis by sitting on the church bench. Doesn't seem like the kid thought this out. He just messed up a good income b/c he wanted to stiff you $85. Not a wise or even selfish thing to do. Even if he were thinking of himself you would think he would see how more money is better for him. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 6:58:07 PM EDT
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OP talks about undercutting all the other remodelers in the area...complains about getting screwed over.... LOL, that's on par with being the most retarded post I've read today. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 6:58:37 PM EDT
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I swear its a game with people. Same thing with poachers, they feel like they are getting away with it or something.
Not like they are hungry or poor, its a sport to screw someone before they get screwed I guess. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 6:58:54 PM EDT
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People are generally fucking retarded. A hundred years ago when I was managing an auto parts store, I had to fire my asst. manager because he stole $40 out of a register he closed down. People can be very stupid. Especially when it comes to handling money. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 6:59:13 PM EDT
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I'll bite. How'd he steal $85 from you? This. If he straight up and took $85 out of your wallet, then confront him and can him. If it's a calculation error or a mistake, confront him, give him a chance to make it right and move on. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 6:59:15 PM EDT
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Met a guy a couple years ago who called me when he lost his job. I do IT by trade but have had an on again off again remodeling business. I do really well with it and get a lot of business from work (aka IT)and I am great at it. Plus I don't need the cash and like working with my hands so I can undercut a lot of people. So I take this kid and teach him a trade. He goes from making $350 a week to $750-900. Then the POS screws me for $85 bucks. What is wrong with people other than really bad math $85>900???? Worst part is this kid goes to church so he tries to say he is a good guy because he does. I believe in God, but so many people hide behind the church. Meh, at least it wasn't $87. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 7:00:02 PM EDT
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If your a legit contractor take his ass to court.
If you are unlicensed, uninsured, and not paying taxes then keep your mouth shut and take your fucking. You had it coming. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 7:02:55 PM EDT
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Kind of gay, the way it happened. I taught him a bunch of stuff including fixing his car. Long story short, I tell him how to change his oil, and he does it. Drains the tranny fluid instead of the oil. Tells me I should pay the bill. I give him a choice, I stop teaching him remodeling, finances etc and give him $85 and walk or.... So after making $3500 in 4 weeks.... I grew up in the country and him the ghetto.
To the jackass who said I undercut. Funny thing is professionals who I work with are so sick of "contractors" not showing up (they put stuff off), that I am winning the lottery to them. Amazing what respecting people does... Sorry for stepping on your toes... |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 7:03:41 PM EDT
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OP talks about undercutting all the other remodelers in the area...complains about getting screwed over.... There's a subtle difference here that seems to be evading you. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 7:05:23 PM EDT
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OP talks about undercutting all the other remodelers in the area...complains about getting screwed over.... Free market economy, how does it work? Most guys that do it on the side don't usually carry insurance or licensing (if required in the area). That allows them to do work a lot cheaper. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 7:06:15 PM EDT
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OP talks about undercutting all the other remodelers in the area...complains about getting screwed over.... The student has become the teacher. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 7:07:32 PM EDT
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Most guys that do it on the side don't usually carry insurance or licensing (if required in the area). That allows them to do work a lot cheaper. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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OP talks about undercutting all the other remodelers in the area...complains about getting screwed over.... Free market economy, how does it work? Most guys that do it on the side don't usually carry insurance or licensing (if required in the area). That allows them to do work a lot cheaper. You have the option to do that as well. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 7:07:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OP talks about undercutting all the other remodelers in the area...complains about getting screwed over.... Hey OP, why do you reckon you are entitled to be treated fairly when you are screwing people who are actually trying to make a living. I bet you would be all kinds of pissed off if you got fired from your IT job because they found a Paki that is willing to do your job for $12 bucks an hour. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 7:08:04 PM EDT
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Most guys that do it on the side don't usually carry insurance or licensing (if required in the area). That allows them to do work a lot cheaper. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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OP talks about undercutting all the other remodelers in the area...complains about getting screwed over.... Free market economy, how does it work? Most guys that do it on the side don't usually carry insurance or licensing (if required in the area). That allows them to do work a lot cheaper. And how did you extrapolate this into OP's business practices without so much as a smidge of information in support of same? |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 7:08:18 PM EDT
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Most guys that do it on the side don't usually carry insurance or licensing (if required in the area). That allows them to do work a lot cheaper. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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OP talks about undercutting all the other remodelers in the area...complains about getting screwed over.... Free market economy, how does it work? Most guys that do it on the side don't usually carry insurance or licensing (if required in the area). That allows them to do work a lot cheaper. I'd like to see him post his workers comp certificate..... You do pay workers comp right OP? Since you have an employee you are required. I'll hold my breath. 
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Posted: 10/3/2015 7:09:13 PM EDT
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And how did you extrapolate this into OP's business practices without so much as a smidge of information in support of same? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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OP talks about undercutting all the other remodelers in the area...complains about getting screwed over.... Free market economy, how does it work? Most guys that do it on the side don't usually carry insurance or licensing (if required in the area). That allows them to do work a lot cheaper. And how did you extrapolate this into OP's business practices without so much as a smidge of information in support of same? 20yrs in the trades. How about you? |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 7:09:59 PM EDT
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I'd like to see him post his workers comp certificate..... You do pay workers comp right OP? Since you have an employee you are required. I'll hold my breath. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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OP talks about undercutting all the other remodelers in the area...complains about getting screwed over.... Free market economy, how does it work? Most guys that do it on the side don't usually carry insurance or licensing (if required in the area). That allows them to do work a lot cheaper. I'd like to see him post his workers comp certificate..... You do pay workers comp right OP? Since you have an employee you are required. I'll hold my breath. Much freedom, so wow. Nothing like embracing the government regulations and crush small businesses. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 7:10:41 PM EDT
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Kind of gay, the way it happened. I taught him a bunch of stuff including fixing his car. Long story short, I tell him how to change his oil, and he does it. Drains the tranny fluid instead of the oil. Tells me I should pay the bill. I give him a choice, I stop teaching him remodeling, finances etc and give him $85 and walk or.... So after making $3500 in 4 weeks.... I grew up in the country and him the ghetto. Maybe I just need some coffee, but I think I need a translator to understand what this means. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 7:10:42 PM EDT
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I was looking into also getting him a 401K. Dude I make $150K in my real job and $50K-75 doing remodeling. Don't try to judge me because you are a failure. Anymore questions?
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Posted: 10/3/2015 7:10:44 PM EDT
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OP talks about undercutting all the other remodelers in the area...complains about getting screwed over.... Free market economy, how does it work? Most guys that do it on the side don't usually carry insurance or licensing (if required in the area). That allows them to do work a lot cheaper. And how did you extrapolate this into OP's business practices without so much as a smidge of information in support of same? 20yrs in the trades. How about you? Clearly you've never heard of a 1099. 
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Posted: 10/3/2015 7:11:22 PM EDT
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I was looking into also getting him a 401K. Dude I make $150K in my real job and $50K-75 doing remodeling. Don't try to judge me because you are a failure. Anymore questions? Fuck the guys who think people working on the side need to be 'regulated by the government'. Fuck them with a rusty rake. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 7:12:12 PM EDT
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OP talks about undercutting all the other remodelers in the area...complains about getting screwed over.... Free market economy, how does it work? Most guys that do it on the side don't usually carry insurance or licensing (if required in the area). That allows them to do work a lot cheaper. And how did you extrapolate this into OP's business practices without so much as a smidge of information in support of same? 20yrs in the trades. How about you? Running a welding truck, off and on, since 1979. None of which supports your blind presumption slandering OP. ETA: Wow, "ignore" doesn't work on Site Mods/Staff. Just learned this. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 7:13:43 PM EDT
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I appreciate the anti regulations, trust me... But I do want my workers protected.
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Posted: 10/3/2015 7:14:14 PM EDT
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Kind of gay, the way it happened. I taught him a bunch of stuff including fixing his car. Long story short, I tell him how to change his oil, and he does it. Drains the tranny fluid instead of the oil. Tells me I should pay the bill. I give him a choice, I stop teaching him remodeling, finances etc and give him $85 and walk or.... So after making $3500 in 4 weeks.... I grew up in the country and him the ghetto. To the jackass who said I undercut. Funny thing is professionals who I work with are so sick of "contractors" not showing up (they put stuff off), that I am winning the lottery to them. Amazing what respecting people does... Sorry for stepping on your toes... Quote HistoryQuoted:
Kind of gay, the way it happened. I taught him a bunch of stuff including fixing his car. Long story short, I tell him how to change his oil, and he does it. Drains the tranny fluid instead of the oil. Tells me I should pay the bill. I give him a choice, I stop teaching him remodeling, finances etc and give him $85 and walk or.... So after making $3500 in 4 weeks.... I grew up in the country and him the ghetto. To the jackass who said I undercut. Funny thing is professionals who I work with are so sick of "contractors" not showing up (they put stuff off), that I am winning the lottery to them. Amazing what respecting people does... Sorry for stepping on your toes... Ummm.....hey dude.....apparently YOU'RE the jackass who said you undercut people in your original fucking post.
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Posted: 10/3/2015 7:14:45 PM EDT
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I was looking into also getting him a 401K. Dude I make $150K in my real job and $50K-75 doing remodeling. Don't try to judge me because you are a failure. Anymore questions? Yes. When are you buying a Team membership? |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 7:14:48 PM EDT
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Fuck the guys who think people working on the side need to be 'regulated by the government'. Fuck them with a rusty rake. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I was looking into also getting him a 401K. Dude I make $150K in my real job and $50K-75 doing remodeling. Don't try to judge me because you are a failure. Anymore questions? Fuck the guys who think people working on the side need to be 'regulated by the government'. Fuck them with a rusty rake. What they said. Why does a cheaper rate for the same work immediately suggest something underhanded? |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 7:15:14 PM EDT
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OP talks about undercutting all the other remodelers in the area...complains about getting screwed over.... The Irony huh? 
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Posted: 10/3/2015 7:16:22 PM EDT
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If your a legit contractor take his ass to court. g. For $85???
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Posted: 10/3/2015 7:16:48 PM EDT
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Observer I'm sorry... Does your work suck so bad you can't find a job. I'm sorry capitalism offends you. Maybe Obambi can send you a phone...
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Posted: 10/3/2015 7:17:40 PM EDT
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Fuck the guys who think people working on the side need to be 'regulated by the government'. Fuck them with a rusty rake. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I was looking into also getting him a 401K. Dude I make $150K in my real job and $50K-75 doing remodeling. Don't try to judge me because you are a failure. Anymore questions? Fuck the guys who think people working on the side need to be 'regulated by the government'. Fuck them with a rusty rake. Yeah, I am all for government deregulation, in fact I hope like hell they step the fuck out of my life, but they won't and I make my living and feed three mouths by running a legit business and paying my taxes and dues. I don't like guys who undercut me by not following the same rules I am forced to. BTW- Aren't you in law enforcement? That's some irony. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 7:17:44 PM EDT
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I appreciate the anti regulations, trust me... But I do want my workers protected. Of course you do. That's the mark of a great employer. I think that negotiation should be between you and your employee and you and your customer. Not a bunch of busy body dicks who want to place retarded regulations on businesses. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 7:18:19 PM EDT
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I paid the $85, out of pride, it's the lack of loyalty I can't understand.
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Posted: 10/3/2015 7:19:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was looking into also getting him a 401K. Dude I make $150K in my real job and $50K-75 doing remodeling. Don't try to judge me because you are a failure. Anymore questions? Yes, will you buy me a car?  |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 7:19:15 PM EDT
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Yeah, I am all for government deregulation, in fact I hope like hell they step the fuck out of my life, but they won't and I make my living and feed three mouths by running a legit business and paying my taxes and dues. I don't like guys who undercut me by not following the same rules I am forced to. BTW- Aren't you in law enforcement? That's some irony. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I was looking into also getting him a 401K. Dude I make $150K in my real job and $50K-75 doing remodeling. Don't try to judge me because you are a failure. Anymore questions? Fuck the guys who think people working on the side need to be 'regulated by the government'. Fuck them with a rusty rake. Yeah, I am all for government deregulation, in fact I hope like hell they step the fuck out of my life, but they won't and I make my living and feed three mouths by running a legit business and paying my taxes and dues. I don't like guys who undercut me by not following the same rules I am forced to. BTW- Aren't you in law enforcement? That's some irony. How does me hating government regulation make anything ironic? Do you even know what that means? |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 7:19:22 PM EDT
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Observer I'm sorry... Does your work suck so bad you can't find a job. I'm sorry capitalism offends you. Maybe Obambi can send you a phone... Sorry to hurt your feelz, but don't come whining like a little bitch when I quote what you said. I'm capitalist as fuck lil' homie, you don't know me. You don't know me. At ALL. Now go whine somewhere else. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 7:19:43 PM EDT
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Most guys that do it on the side don't usually carry insurance or licensing (if required in the area). That allows them to do work a lot cheaper. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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OP talks about undercutting all the other remodelers in the area...complains about getting screwed over.... Free market economy, how does it work? Most guys that do it on the side don't usually carry insurance or licensing (if required in the area). That allows them to do work a lot cheaper. And they usually don't pull permits etc.When your trying to run a legitimate business and have to pay for bonds,workman's comp, labor burden, bookkeeping, and two million dollars worth of insurance it really changes the way you have to charge. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 7:21:23 PM EDT
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Notice I live in CT, try not pulling a permit here. I started this thread to get insight on how stupid people think and other than a couple good guys, I get more of the same...
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Posted: 10/3/2015 7:21:48 PM EDT
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I paid the $85, out of pride, it's the lack of loyalty I can't understand. What does pride have to do with it? |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 7:22:11 PM EDT
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I fail to understand how he drained transmission fluid trying to do an oil change so you owe $85.
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Posted: 10/3/2015 7:22:45 PM EDT
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How does me hating government regulation make anything ironic? Do you even know what that means? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I was looking into also getting him a 401K. Dude I make $150K in my real job and $50K-75 doing remodeling. Don't try to judge me because you are a failure. Anymore questions? Fuck the guys who think people working on the side need to be 'regulated by the government'. Fuck them with a rusty rake. Yeah, I am all for government deregulation, in fact I hope like hell they step the fuck out of my life, but they won't and I make my living and feed three mouths by running a legit business and paying my taxes and dues. I don't like guys who undercut me by not following the same rules I am forced to. BTW- Aren't you in law enforcement? That's some irony. How does me hating government regulation make anything ironic? Do you even know what that means? Says the guy who enforces the laws, or do you only do that when it bennifits your argument? Having workers comp and paying taxes is the law in case you were unaware. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 7:23:38 PM EDT
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LOL, that's on par with being the most retarded post I've read today. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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OP talks about undercutting all the other remodelers in the area...complains about getting screwed over.... LOL, that's on par with being the most retarded post I've read today. How so. Licensed contractors have to carry a bond, insurance, continuing ed and a plethora of other gov. costs. OP did not say if he was licensed but I assume not because he is able to undercut others. I dunno. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 7:24:59 PM EDT
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It's 85 bucks.
Sounds like you've got the world licked. You can afford to move on. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 7:25:06 PM EDT
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I have a funny feeling the guys changing the subject are the ones who call a week late, show up 4 hours late and remove load bearing walls...
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Posted: 10/3/2015 7:25:15 PM EDT
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Says the guy who enforces the laws, or do you only do that when it bennifits your argument? Having workers comp and paying taxes is the law in case you were unaware. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I was looking into also getting him a 401K. Dude I make $150K in my real job and $50K-75 doing remodeling. Don't try to judge me because you are a failure. Anymore questions? Fuck the guys who think people working on the side need to be 'regulated by the government'. Fuck them with a rusty rake. Yeah, I am all for government deregulation, in fact I hope like hell they step the fuck out of my life, but they won't and I make my living and feed three mouths by running a legit business and paying my taxes and dues. I don't like guys who undercut me by not following the same rules I am forced to. BTW- Aren't you in law enforcement? That's some irony. How does me hating government regulation make anything ironic? Do you even know what that means? Says the guy who enforces the laws, or do you only do that when it bennifits your argument? Having workers comp and paying taxes is the law in case you were unaware. Can you even read? Who said anything about enforcing? Hating the laws has nothing to do with enforcement. What the fuck, over? |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 7:25:39 PM EDT
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How so. Licensed contractors have to carry a bond, insurance, continuing ed and a plethora of other gov. costs. OP did not say if he was licensed but I assume not because he is able to undercut others. I dunno. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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OP talks about undercutting all the other remodelers in the area...complains about getting screwed over.... LOL, that's on par with being the most retarded post I've read today. How so. Licensed contractors have to carry a bond, insurance, continuing ed and a plethora of other gov. costs. OP did not say if he was licensed but I assume not because he is able to undercut others. I dunno. A lot of assumptions going on around here. |
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