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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:01:36 PM EDT
[#1]
Wow...
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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:02:34 PM EDT
[#2]
Fuck that. I want it to be $100 an hour. Go big or go home commies.
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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:03:03 PM EDT
[#3]
What if I don't want to be in a union?
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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:03:39 PM EDT
[#4]
You know who the big winners are?
The companies who build and repair robots. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:03:54 PM EDT
[#5]
They call Hillary a "centrist". That is how your fucked up media frames things to make radicals seems ordinary.
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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:03:55 PM EDT
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Fuck that. I want it to be $100 an hour. Go big or go home commies. Trump should propose that just to fuck with them 
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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:04:50 PM EDT
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demoncraps aren't know for their knowledge of how economics works. Liars and idiots pandering to dumb fucks.
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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:05:31 PM EDT
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Link The Democratic Party on Friday adopted a call to raise the minimum wage to $15/hr as part of their established party platform heading into the 2016 election season. The move further polarizes the progressive wing of the party by moving them further to the left of both the Republican Party, and corporate centrist Democrats such as Hillary Clinton.
In response to the Democratic Party’s vote, Terrence Wise, a Kansas City, Mo. McDonald’s and Burger King Worker and member of the National Organizing Committee of the Fight for $15, issued the following statement. “The Democratic Party’s move shows a growing understanding that $15 an hour is what American workers everywhere need to survive and support their families. When fast-food workers first went on strike three years ago in New York City, most people gave them no shot to win. But the movement caught on in every corner of the country and big wage increases are now spreading from coast to coast. By joining together, speaking out and going on strike, we’re changing the politics of the country. And we’re going to keep on fighting until every underpaid worker in this country wins $15 and a union.” So we should assume you'll be voting Democrat this time round? |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:05:34 PM EDT
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They call Hillary a "centrist". That is how your fucked up media frames things to make radicals seems ordinary. Despite what Fox news and AM radio tell you she is. That's why there's a liberal wing to the party, but once you convince people that socialist is a dirty word why not throw it around all the time. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:05:34 PM EDT
[#10]
Do I get a raise relative to the minimum wage?
Surely, I'm worth 50% more now? |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:05:39 PM EDT
[#11]
They'll eventually get it too. This is why we are losing. They are very specific about what they want; they are united, and they just keep repeating the same thing over and over until they get it. Gun owners need to pay attention.
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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:05:55 PM EDT
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demoncraps aren't know for their knowledge of how economics works. Liars and idiots pandering to dumb fucks. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:06:03 PM EDT
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So we should assume you'll be voting Democrat this time round? I'd vote for Sanders, Warren, or 3rd party. ETA According to one of the tests thrown around here, I fall into the anarcho-socialist camp. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:06:04 PM EDT
[#14]
Inflation will be held constant for sure because prices certainly don't follow wages.
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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:06:21 PM EDT
[#15]
I wish these asshats would realize this, if minimum wage is raised to $15 an hour, your still gonna be a minimum wage worker, you'll still be poor, you still wouldn't be able to afford shit. Raise wages and prices follow, a meal at McDonalds cost about the same as a hour of minimum wage.
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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:08:14 PM EDT
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If they get 15 bucks an hour to flip burgers then I want to have my wage index based on the minimum wage increase. There are a ton of bachelors level jobs right now that pay under $15 an hour where I live, so I can't imagine how this is going to affect situations like that. What do you say to the chick with a child development degree that she was getting paid 6 bucks above minimum wage, but will not be paid minimum wage like the cat at Wendy's. The rates for reimbursement of her services have not increased from the insurance companies or states, so the employer can't really afford to pay her more.
It is a small minded solution to a larger issue. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:08:55 PM EDT
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Desperation, this reeks of it.
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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:09:23 PM EDT
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I'd vote for Sanders, Warren, or 3rd party. ETA According to one of the tests thrown around here, I fall into the anarcho-socialist camp. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So we should assume you'll be voting Democrat this time round? I'd vote for Sanders, Warren, or 3rd party. ETA According to one of the tests thrown around here, I fall into the anarcho-socialist camp. So the fact that minimum wages don't actually do anything for the poor doesn't phase you? BTW, anarcho-socialist is an oxymoron. You will not have socialism without an impressively massive government. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:09:35 PM EDT
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Desperation, this reeks of it. Yes it does. They're a mess right now. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:09:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd vote for Sanders, Warren, or 3rd party. ETA According to one of the tests thrown around here, I fall into the anarcho-socialist camp. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So we should assume you'll be voting Democrat this time round? I'd vote for Sanders, Warren, or 3rd party. ETA According to one of the tests thrown around here, I fall into the anarcho-socialist camp. Somewhere, a village needs their idiot. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:10:26 PM EDT
[#21]
The more money you make the more money you pay in taxes. It's a win win for the government.
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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:10:48 PM EDT
[#22]
Why so stingy?
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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:11:33 PM EDT
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So the fact that minimum wages don't actually do anything for the poor doesn't phase you? BTW, anarcho-socialist is an oxymoron. You will not have socialism without an impressively massive government. The government is a tool that can be used properly or, left to its own devices, it can become a tyrannical menace. To prevent the latter you don't dismantle the government, you watch it like a hawk. The price for liberty is eternal vigilance 
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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:12:50 PM EDT
[#24]
So they adopted the Communist Party platform.
Good. They just lost the vote of EVERY small business owner and accountant in America. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:13:07 PM EDT
[#25]
Democrats trying to buy votes with other peoples money yet again.
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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:13:44 PM EDT
[#26]
Gotta buy votes somehow.
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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:14:26 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:15:32 PM EDT
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“The Democratic Party’s move shows a growing understanding that $15 an hour is what American workers everywhere need to survive and support their families." Don't have a family if you can't make a decent living. People need to stop believing that having children is an entitlement (to other people's $$$). It's not going to be funny if the wage is forced to be raised. People will lose their jobs, and the price of goods and services will increase. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:15:39 PM EDT
[#29]
On a somewhat related note... I had a very productive convo at an nyc bar, with a black guy, a dominican guy and an irish guy... (Punch line!) they all left realizing how the scum fucks are sucking us tax payers dry. Who knows who they'll vote for in a year and a half though.
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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:18:29 PM EDT
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The government is a tool that can be used properly or, left to its own devices, it can become a tyrannical menace. To prevent the latter you don't dismantle the government, you watch it like a hawk. The price for liberty is eternal vigilance Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So the fact that minimum wages don't actually do anything for the poor doesn't phase you? BTW, anarcho-socialist is an oxymoron. You will not have socialism without an impressively massive government. The government is a tool that can be used properly or, left to its own devices, it can become a tyrannical menace. To prevent the latter you don't dismantle the government, you watch it like a hawk. The price for liberty is eternal vigilance It's an oxymoron because socialism involves involuntary transfer of wealth or income, requires coercion across many aspects of human activity, which requires a class of people that force accross the population. Not seeing how "anarcho" fits that in any way. At any rate, how can people realisticall get by on $15, paricularly as business will seek increasingly cost effective automation in substitution of increasingly overpriced labor? 
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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:19:32 PM EDT
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So the fact that minimum wages don't actually do anything for the poor doesn't phase you? BTW, anarcho-socialist is an oxymoron. You will not have socialism without an impressively massive government. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So we should assume you'll be voting Democrat this time round? I'd vote for Sanders, Warren, or 3rd party. ETA According to one of the tests thrown around here, I fall into the anarcho-socialist camp. So the fact that minimum wages don't actually do anything for the poor doesn't phase you? BTW, anarcho-socialist is an oxymoron. You will not have socialism without an impressively massive government. Dude, don't correct him, it's too fun to watch. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:19:36 PM EDT
[#32]
A year ago is was $10.10. They sure are going full steam ahead with their nonsense.
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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:20:08 PM EDT
[#33]
Weak.........if they really cared. they go for 100 bucks an hour
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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:21:26 PM EDT
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It's an oxymoron because socialism involves involuntary transfer of wealth or income, requires coercion across many aspects of human activity, which requires a class of people that force accross the population. Not seeing how "anarcho" fits that in any way. At any rate, how can people realisticall get by on $15, paricularly as business will seek increasingly cost effective automation in substitution of increasingly overpriced labor? That's an inevitable future. Society will either adapt to supporting people from cradle to grave or a lot of people are going to die. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:21:32 PM EDT
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The government is a tool that can be used properly or, left to its own devices, it can become a tyrannical menace. To prevent the latter you don't dismantle the government, you watch it like a hawk. The price for liberty is eternal vigilance Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So the fact that minimum wages don't actually do anything for the poor doesn't phase you? BTW, anarcho-socialist is an oxymoron. You will not have socialism without an impressively massive government. The government is a tool that can be used properly or, left to its own devices, it can become a tyrannical menace. To prevent the latter you don't dismantle the government, you watch it like a hawk. The price for liberty is eternal vigilance Like, yeah scro. Cause like, you know that's worked out so well for us so far. 
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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:21:43 PM EDT
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The government is a tool that can be used properly or, left to its own devices, it can become a tyrannical menace. To prevent the latter you don't dismantle the government, you watch it like a hawk. The price for liberty is eternal vigilance Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So the fact that minimum wages don't actually do anything for the poor doesn't phase you? BTW, anarcho-socialist is an oxymoron. You will not have socialism without an impressively massive government. The government is a tool that can be used properly or, left to its own devices, it can become a tyrannical menace. To prevent the latter you don't dismantle the government, you watch it like a hawk. The price for liberty is eternal vigilance No, you don't get it. Whatever power you give to the government *will* be abused. The founders understood this which is why the set up a very limited government. If you set up a very powerful government, as any socialist system will require, you'll simply get more abuse in the end. Anarchism and Socialism are mutually exclusive. Show me an example of your anarcho-socialist system in action. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:22:00 PM EDT
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Dude, don't correct him, it's too fun to watch. I just took the test and thew it out as a baseline for my opinions. I didn't make the test
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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:22:13 PM EDT
[#38]
$10 per hour seems like a better starting point. $15 per hour is too high and reduces the motivation to take harder jobs.
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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:22:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So the fact that minimum wages don't actually do anything for the poor doesn't phase you? BTW, anarcho-socialist is an oxymoron. You will not have socialism without an impressively massive government. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So we should assume you'll be voting Democrat this time round? I'd vote for Sanders, Warren, or 3rd party. ETA According to one of the tests thrown around here, I fall into the anarcho-socialist camp. So the fact that minimum wages don't actually do anything for the poor doesn't phase you? BTW, anarcho-socialist is an oxymoron. You will not have socialism without an impressively massive government. The minimum wage in and of itself outside of indexing for cost of living does not do anything, but with respect to cost of living it obviously does have an effect on a persons ability to earn a living wage. The acrossed the board $15 minimum wage federally does fuck all to take into account the cost of living state per state, so say in a low cost area of the South East it would probably a much higher burden upon the employer then somewhere like NYC. I am sure your boot straps are broken off and you have minted your own coins, but for many people the minimum wage amount does determine the wages their employer is willing to pay them. Anarcho-socialism is not the purists version of anarchist political views, but it does not make it an oxymoron it makes it a different version of a political thought. Voting for Warren would be like nailing your dick to a fucking hand railing, worthless. Sanders may not make gun grabbing his first move, but it is on the to do list, so I don't see him regardless of some of his views as a great deal. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:22:45 PM EDT
[#40]
it is so sickening how they just blatantly give away free shit for votes.
disgusting 
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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:22:51 PM EDT
[#41]
I make it possible for 50 people to work. I'll need an $8 raise too. And in a year, they'll be right back at the spending power they had today.
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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:23:58 PM EDT
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Despite what Fox news and AM radio tell you she is. That's why there's a liberal wing to the party, but once you convince people that socialist is a dirty word why not throw it around all the time. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They call Hillary a "centrist". That is how your fucked up media frames things to make radicals seems ordinary. Despite what Fox news and AM radio tell you she is. That's why there's a liberal wing to the party, but once you convince people that socialist is a dirty word why not throw it around all the time. Seriously? Alinsky would say she is far left Now i know your a liberal, tryinng to convince us that HRC is a centrist. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:24:03 PM EDT
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That's an inevitable future. Society will either adapt to supporting people from cradle to grave or a lot of people are going to die. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's an oxymoron because socialism involves involuntary transfer of wealth or income, requires coercion across many aspects of human activity, which requires a class of people that force accross the population. Not seeing how "anarcho" fits that in any way. At any rate, how can people realisticall get by on $15, paricularly as business will seek increasingly cost effective automation in substitution of increasingly overpriced labor? That's an inevitable future. Society will either adapt to supporting people from cradle to grave or a lot of people are going to die. Given those two options -- I know which one I would choose. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:24:37 PM EDT
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They call Hillary a "centrist". That is how your fucked up media frames things to make radicals seems ordinary. She is, when compared to Barack Obama, Bernie Sanders, and these calls for $15/hr minimum wage. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:24:46 PM EDT
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I just took the test and thew it out as a baseline for my opinions. I didn't make the test Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Dude, don't correct him, it's too fun to watch. I just took the test and thew it out as a baseline for my opinions. I didn't make the test "Anarcho-socialist" is essentially a label that a very silly person gives to himself in order that he may believe that he holds serious ideas. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:25:03 PM EDT
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I have no doubt a $15/hour minimum wage is coming. My question is, how will this affect food service workers currently dependent upon tips? If my server is making $15/hr, I'm sorry, but if the service is less than extraordinary, no tip for you. And I'm certain the IRS will be quick to modify how they view food service wages. Make $15/hr, and get taxed by a system still assuming you're getting a certain % tip on every check.
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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:26:07 PM EDT
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Seriously? Alinsky would say she is far left Now i know your a liberal, tryinng to convince us that HRC is a centrist. Take my views and then compare them to her views
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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:27:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have no doubt a $15/hour minimum wage is coming. My question is, how will this affect food service workers currently dependent upon tips? If my server is making $15/hr, I'm sorry, but if the service is less than extraordinary, no tip for you. And I'm certain the IRS will be quick to modify how they view food service wages. Make $15/hr, and get taxed by a system still assuming you're getting a certain % tip on every check. You realize that waiters now do not make what the majority of people on minimum wage do as their minimum wage is a separate thing right ...? |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:27:17 PM EDT
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The minimum wage in and of itself outside of indexing for cost of living does not do anything, but with respect to cost of living it obviously does have an effect on a persons ability to earn a living wage. The acrossed the board $15 minimum wage federally does fuck all to take into account the cost of living state per state, so say in a low cost area of the South East it would probably a much higher burden upon the employer then somewhere like NYC. I am sure your boot straps are broken off and you have minted your own coins, but for many people the minimum wage amount does determine the wages their employer is willing to pay them. Anarcho-socialism is not the purists version of anarchist political views, but it does not make it an oxymoron it makes it a different version of a political thought. Voting for Warren would be like nailing your dick to a fucking hand railing, worthless. Sanders may not make gun grabbing his first move, but it is on the to do list, so I don't see him regardless of some of his views as a great deal. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So we should assume you'll be voting Democrat this time round? I'd vote for Sanders, Warren, or 3rd party. ETA According to one of the tests thrown around here, I fall into the anarcho-socialist camp. So the fact that minimum wages don't actually do anything for the poor doesn't phase you? BTW, anarcho-socialist is an oxymoron. You will not have socialism without an impressively massive government. The minimum wage in and of itself outside of indexing for cost of living does not do anything, but with respect to cost of living it obviously does have an effect on a persons ability to earn a living wage. The acrossed the board $15 minimum wage federally does fuck all to take into account the cost of living state per state, so say in a low cost area of the South East it would probably a much higher burden upon the employer then somewhere like NYC. I am sure your boot straps are broken off and you have minted your own coins, but for many people the minimum wage amount does determine the wages their employer is willing to pay them. Anarcho-socialism is not the purists version of anarchist political views, but it does not make it an oxymoron it makes it a different version of a political thought. Voting for Warren would be like nailing your dick to a fucking hand railing, worthless. Sanders may not make gun grabbing his first move, but it is on the to do list, so I don't see him regardless of some of his views as a great deal. Then show me an example of anarcho-socialism in the real world that did not end up in pure anarchy or pure socialism. It is a purely theoretical construct that can not exist in the real world. I eagerly await your response. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 6:28:36 PM EDT
[#50]
I guess my wage goes up then.
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