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Posted: 8/2/2015 3:57:10 AM EDT
This is bullshit, I haven't even had my first African big game hunt yet!
time to win the lotto or marry a rich women hope this isn't a dupe Link "Yesterday, Reps. Raul Grijalva, D-Ariz., ranking member of the House Natural Resources Committee, and Earl Blumenauer, D-Ore., co-chair of the Congressional Animal Protection Caucus — both stalwart champions of animal welfare — led a letter signed by 48 other House Democratic members urging the US Fish and Wildlife Service to finalize its proposed rule listing the African lion as threatened under the Endangered Species Act. The United Nations General Assembly has also passed a resolution condemning the poaching and trafficking of wildlife and calling on governments worldwide to take action to tackle these challenges. And on Monday, US Senator Robert Menendez, D-N.J., a devoted friend to the work of The HSUS and HSI, is introducing a bill to ban all imports of trophies and parts from African lions and other at-risk species into the US. The bill is called the Conserving Ecosystems by Ceasing the Importation of Large (CECIL) Animal Trophies Act. That's because Palmer is not so different from thousands of other wealthy trophy hunters in the US and throughout the world, who hopscotch all over the earth in luxury and comfort to kill the largest "specimens" of the rarest mammals. Baiting, jacklighting, shooting in parks or fenced areas, with guides even drugging animals to allow these aging men to shoot these magnificent creatures, are all par for the course. That's their hobby, albeit a warped, selfish, and inhumane one. It's going on every day in the remote reaches of the globe, enabled by professional guides and wildlife officials who are at least complicit if not directly on the take from rich people with a mania for killing the most beautiful creatures in the world. As for Zimbabwe, this is a country long plagued by terrible leadership in the post-colonial era, and it is a nation deeply corrupted, autocratic, and ruthless when it comes to the treatment of wildlife. Walter Palmer went there because there are too many officials there ready and willing to sell off wildlife to the highest bidder. Good for them for seeking extradition this time — but let's just not be fooled into thinking that this is a principled, forward-thinking government at work. Zimbabwe is even allowing wealthy foreigners to slay elephants for trophies. That program is so badly managed that the US Fish and Wildlife Service suspended imports of elephant trophies from that country in 2014 and again in 2015. If Zimbabwe is serious about taking action, it should follow in the footsteps of Botswana and ban all trophy hunting. It should turn the pages of the history books and step into the era of wildlife watching and appreciation. Eco-tourism dwarfs trophy hunting in its economic impact, and it's got great promise as a sustainable means of livelihood for Africans and African economies. Kenya, Rwanda, Uganda, and other nations are showing the way. Now it's time for Zimbabwe to stop allowing targets on the backs of its glorious and diminishing wildlife. " I don't see nations like Zimbabwe that allow hunting legally going for this, They already choose to allow it for a reason, no way in hell they are giving up all that money and everything else it brings they have almost nothing to loose by keeping it legal |
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Christ, the guy paid over $50,000 to hunt there. That's probably like infinity Zimbabwe dollars.
He may have fucked up, but let's not destroy a major economic venue there. |
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The left Has found their path to victory one common sense bill at a time. I can't even keep up with all the legislation going on and that's the way they want it. We are truly fucked now that even elected and appointed official in DC has all three powers. To their credit it should cut down on the red tape in theory. Thankfully, for now, we the people could still proove to be the ultimate check against the relentless encroachment on our liberty by the left and their cronies if we so choose.
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I'm OK with trophy hunting going the way of the dodobird View Quote I am not sure if Zimbabwe has a law against animal waist but they should, its common for the African game hunter to provide hundreds of meals to local tribes and people with a single kill animal skins and other useful stuff for people living a tribal life style, its not exactly poor African kids dying in filth like you see in "Save the poor children of Africa" commericals the icing on the cake is, he gets a trophy No different than dear hunting, we hunt for meat, and we get a keep sake to remember it |
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Grijalva is a waste of oxygen. Not my rep, thankfully (different district)
That guy can eat a bag of dicks |
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I've never been a fan of trophy hunting until now. I really want to shoot something majestic now.
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There's actually a Congressional Animal Protection Caucus?
I don't want to live on this planet anymore. |
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What the fuck is "eco-tourism"? For some reason, I have a hard time believing that it brings in more cash than trophy hunters do.
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The goal of CAPC is to build broad coalitions in support of common-sense, humane animal welfare laws.
In the 113th Congress, members of the Caucus hosted briefings on a diverse range of animal-related topics, including increased protections for African lions, the problematic use of antibiotics in industrial agriculture operations, and abusive soring techniques used on Tennessee Walking Horses. View Quote |
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I want to shoot a snow leopard and feed it to some spotted owls, then shoot them too... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I've never been a fan of trophy hunting until now. I really want to shoot something majestic now. I want to shoot a snow leopard and feed it to some spotted owls, then shoot them too... Don't shoot her. |
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Quoted: I want to shoot a snow leopard and feed it to some spotted owls, then shoot them too... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I've never been a fan of trophy hunting until now. I really want to shoot something majestic now. I want to shoot a snow leopard and feed it to some spotted owls, then shoot them too... |
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I'm OK with trophy hunting going the way of the dodobird View Quote A July 15teerner I'm sure you are. Study how wildlife management works and who pays for it. Also take note of how a animal spends it's last breath on this earth in the wild. It's only going to live for so many years. Which is the more humane death....a swift kill by a human or a lingering death by old age or animal predator death. Get over your species guilt. |
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Yeah Botswana is a country to follow, with poachers having wiped out most of the wild life because there is no economic reason to protect the animals.
Eco-tourism dwarfs trophy hunting in its economic impact. View Quote Oh really? I'd like a link to that. |
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Quoted: I want to shoot a snow leopard and feed it to some spotted owls, then shoot them too... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I've never been a fan of trophy hunting until now. I really want to shoot something majestic now. I want to shoot a snow leopard and feed it to some spotted owls, then shoot them too... I now want to be this guy |
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I'm really impressed by this. If they ban trophy hunting, poachers will just quit too and take up knitting.
It's...big city thinking* *i forget who that was...been awhile. |
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I'm going to teach a silver back gorilla to smoke it will either get cancer or burn down the jungle either way it should piss off someone. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I've never been a fan of trophy hunting until now. I really want to shoot something majestic now. I want to shoot a snow leopard and feed it to some spotted owls, then shoot them too... As long as it knows how to light a lighter for other smokers, I'm down! I'd love to see a gorilla light a cigarette for me. |
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I wonder how long that bill has been sitting around just waiting for an event to capitalize on?
How did this blow up into such a big story, anyway? |
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I wonder how long that bill has been sitting around just waiting for an event to capitalize on? How did this blow up into such a big story, anyway? View Quote Well, it just so happens to be helping keep the Planned Parenthood video stories, and the new one about how the Garland, TX wannabe-jihadis bought their guns via a branch of the ATF's Fast & Furious program, and... |
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Quoted: 90 posts in 2 days? NORCAL to the courtesy phone..... NORCAL to the courtesy phone View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I'm OK with trophy hunting going the way of the dodobird 90 posts in 2 days? NORCAL to the courtesy phone..... NORCAL to the courtesy phone Methinks I smell Dan in another guise. (Hi Dan.) |
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Quoted: As long as it knows how to light a lighter for other smokers, I'm down! I'd love to see a gorilla light a cigarette for me. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I've never been a fan of trophy hunting until now. I really want to shoot something majestic now. I want to shoot a snow leopard and feed it to some spotted owls, then shoot them too... As long as it knows how to light a lighter for other smokers, I'm down! I'd love to see a gorilla light a cigarette for me. |
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Quoted: No kidding. Methinks I smell Dan in another guise. (Hi Dan.) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm OK with trophy hunting going the way of the dodobird 90 posts in 2 days? NORCAL to the courtesy phone..... NORCAL to the courtesy phone No kidding. Methinks I smell Dan in another guise. (Hi Dan.) |
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I am shocked, shocked I say, that its Democrats putting this up.
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I think Dan was smart enough to put together an ar lower. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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No kidding. Methinks I smell Dan in another guise. (Hi Dan.) Dan was a Glock guy, you are giving him too much credit. |
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I'm OK with trophy hunting going the way of the dodobird View Quote Don't worry it will. When they ban trophy hunting and they can't operate the wildlife refuges and conservation areas these hunts take place on, the locals and poachers will have culled ( locals with machine guns and jeeps is much more human) or killed everything in sight either for cash on the black market or due to trampled crops, deaths in the village, encrochment... Never fear though! We'll save a few to admire in cage only propagating the race by in-vitro and feeding them cat food.Yeah! That's Tomorrowland! Hope and Change! |
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Trophy hunting is the most ethical form of hunting.
The animals taken are the oldest and least productive, having reached old age and being near death. The meat goes to locals who need it. The money paid is often the entire yearly income for the locals. The hides are exported which funds an entire industry for taxidermy and shipping that would not otherwise exist. The tourist dollars are spent in areas that otherwise receive little to no tourism...effectively creating a money desert if not for the hunts. Lastly, and most importantly, trophy hunting gives all of the people involved in the above strong financial incentive to protect the animals. It gives the animals real monetary value. Without this value, the animals are a nuisance to the locals and are slaughtered just like we kill roaches. Don't take my word for it...look at countries that outlawed safari hunting. Look at their animal populations outside a few road based tourist parks. |
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You are just pissed because you broke your ar and can't shoot a lion with it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'm OK with trophy hunting going the way of the dodobird No, I actually think killing any animal for sport is stupid. Food only. |
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But I was told they only want to stop illegal poaching
In no way would this be turned into an attack on all hunters. |
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No, I actually think killing any animal for sport is stupid. Food only. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'm OK with trophy hunting going the way of the dodobird No, I actually think killing any animal for sport is stupid. Food only. Teeners from the USA. Join date, post count. What could possibly be expected? |
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