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Posted: 8/2/2015 3:57:10 AM EDT
This is bullshit, I haven't even had my first African big game hunt yet!
time to win the lotto or marry a rich women
hope this isn't a dupe

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"Yesterday, Reps. Raul Grijalva, D-Ariz., ranking member of the House Natural Resources Committee, and Earl Blumenauer, D-Ore., co-chair of the Congressional Animal Protection Caucus — both stalwart champions of animal welfare — led a letter signed by 48 other House Democratic members urging the US Fish and Wildlife Service to finalize its proposed rule listing the African lion as threatened under the Endangered Species Act. The United Nations General Assembly has also passed a resolution condemning the poaching and trafficking of wildlife and calling on governments worldwide to take action to tackle these challenges. And on Monday, US Senator Robert Menendez, D-N.J., a devoted friend to the work of The HSUS and HSI, is introducing a bill to ban all imports of trophies and parts from African lions and other at-risk species into the US. The bill is called the Conserving Ecosystems by Ceasing the Importation of Large (CECIL) Animal Trophies Act.

That's because Palmer is not so different from thousands of other wealthy trophy hunters in the US and throughout the world, who hopscotch all over the earth in luxury and comfort to kill the largest "specimens" of the rarest mammals. Baiting, jacklighting, shooting in parks or fenced areas, with guides even drugging animals to allow these aging men to shoot these magnificent creatures, are all par for the course. That's their hobby, albeit a warped, selfish, and inhumane one. It's going on every day in the remote reaches of the globe, enabled by professional guides and wildlife officials who are at least complicit if not directly on the take from rich people with a mania for killing the most beautiful creatures in the world.

As for Zimbabwe, this is a country long plagued by terrible leadership in the post-colonial era, and it is a nation deeply corrupted, autocratic, and ruthless when it comes to the treatment of wildlife. Walter Palmer went there because there are too many officials there ready and willing to sell off wildlife to the highest bidder. Good for them for seeking extradition this time — but let's just not be fooled into thinking that this is a principled, forward-thinking government at work.

Zimbabwe is even allowing wealthy foreigners to slay elephants for trophies. That program is so badly managed that the US Fish and Wildlife Service suspended imports of elephant trophies from that country in 2014 and again in 2015.

If Zimbabwe is serious about taking action, it should follow in the footsteps of Botswana and ban all trophy hunting. It should turn the pages of the history books and step into the era of wildlife watching and appreciation. Eco-tourism dwarfs trophy hunting in its economic impact, and it's got great promise as a sustainable means of livelihood for Africans and African economies. Kenya, Rwanda, Uganda, and other nations are showing the way. Now it's time for Zimbabwe to stop allowing targets on the backs of its glorious and diminishing wildlife. "

I don't see nations like Zimbabwe that allow hunting legally going for this, They already choose to allow it for a reason, no way in hell they are giving up all that money and everything else it brings
they have almost nothing to loose by keeping it legal
Link Posted: 8/2/2015 4:00:57 AM EDT
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Christ, the guy paid over $50,000 to hunt there. That's probably like infinity Zimbabwe dollars.
He may have fucked up, but let's not destroy a major economic venue there.
Link Posted: 8/2/2015 4:01:09 AM EDT
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No it won't.

Retards are retarded.
Link Posted: 8/2/2015 4:01:13 AM EDT
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democrats can choke on  baboon dicks for all i care...
Link Posted: 8/2/2015 4:09:20 AM EDT
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The left Has found their path to victory one common sense bill at a time. I can't even keep up with all the legislation going on and that's the way they want it. We are truly fucked now that even elected and appointed official in DC has all three powers. To their credit it should cut down on the red tape in theory. Thankfully, for now, we the people could still proove to be the ultimate check against the relentless encroachment on our liberty by the left and their cronies if we so choose.
Link Posted: 8/2/2015 4:10:31 AM EDT
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I'm OK with trophy hunting going the way of the dodobird
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I'm not, and certainly not when GOP has a majority in both the House and Senate.

It would be a real big mistake for this bill to even be allowed a committee hearing.
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Even when that means people paying $50-100,000 to take out animals which need to be culled from the gene pool?
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We all know what you think already.

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As long as you go too
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I am not sure if Zimbabwe has a law against animal waist but they should, its common for the African game hunter to provide hundreds of meals to local tribes and people with a single kill
animal skins and other useful stuff for people living a tribal life style, its not exactly poor African kids dying in filth like you see in "Save the poor children of Africa" commericals
the icing on the cake is, he gets a trophy

No different than dear hunting, we hunt for meat, and we get a keep sake to remember it

Link Posted: 8/2/2015 4:19:43 AM EDT
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Grijalva is a waste of oxygen.  Not my rep, thankfully (different district)
That guy can eat a bag of dicks
Link Posted: 8/2/2015 4:20:03 AM EDT
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I've never been a fan of trophy hunting until now. I really want to shoot something majestic now.
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You are just pissed because you broke your ar and can't shoot a lion with it.

 
Link Posted: 8/2/2015 4:23:04 AM EDT
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There's actually a Congressional Animal Protection Caucus?




I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
Link Posted: 8/2/2015 4:24:12 AM EDT
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I want to go sloth hunting now I bet that would piss some people right off.

 
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I feel the same way.

Link Posted: 8/2/2015 4:29:50 AM EDT
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What the fuck is "eco-tourism"?  For some reason, I have a hard time believing that it brings in more cash than trophy hunters do.
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They can take it away if they want..theres other things to trophy hunt if they do....
Link Posted: 8/2/2015 4:31:47 AM EDT
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I want to shoot a snow leopard and feed it to some spotted owls, then shoot them too...
Link Posted: 8/2/2015 4:32:05 AM EDT
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The goal of CAPC is to build broad coalitions in support of common-sense, humane animal welfare laws.

In the 113th Congress, members of the Caucus hosted briefings on a diverse range of animal-related topics, including increased protections for African lions, the problematic use of antibiotics in industrial agriculture operations, and abusive soring techniques used on Tennessee Walking Horses.
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Don't shoot her.

Link Posted: 8/2/2015 4:37:34 AM EDT
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I want to shoot a snow leopard and feed it to some spotted owls, then shoot them too...
I'm going to teach a silver back gorilla to smoke it will either get cancer or burn down the jungle either way it should piss off someone.

 
Link Posted: 8/2/2015 4:37:57 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/2/2015 4:40:03 AM EDT
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Yeah Botswana is a country to follow, with poachers having wiped out most of the wild life because there is no economic reason to protect the animals.

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Oh really? I'd like a link to that.
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Aren't you the guy that was utterly defeated by an end plate on your rifle?
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Aren't you the guy that was utterly defeated by an end plate on your rifle?
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Link Posted: 8/2/2015 4:45:56 AM EDT
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lol nub
Link Posted: 8/2/2015 4:48:09 AM EDT
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I now want to be this guy









Link Posted: 8/2/2015 4:57:45 AM EDT
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Christ, the guy paid over $50,000 to hunt there. That's probably like infinity Zimbabwe dollars.
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Dentist did nothing wrong.

He trusted that the paid guides were following the laws.
Link Posted: 8/2/2015 5:00:05 AM EDT
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I'm really impressed by this. If they ban trophy hunting, poachers will just quit too and take up knitting.
It's...big city thinking*

*i forget who that was...been awhile.
Link Posted: 8/2/2015 5:00:46 AM EDT
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I'm OK with you putting together all your future AR's by yourself, It will keep animals around the world safer, since you can't even install a buttstock correctly.
Link Posted: 8/2/2015 5:02:15 AM EDT
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I'm going to teach a silver back gorilla to smoke it will either get cancer or burn down the jungle either way it should piss off someone.  


As long as it knows how to light a lighter for other smokers, I'm down!

I'd love to see a gorilla light a cigarette for me.
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90 posts in 2 days?




NORCAL to the courtesy phone..... NORCAL to the courtesy phone
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I wonder how long that bill has been sitting around just waiting for an event to capitalize on?

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Well, it just so happens to be helping keep the Planned Parenthood video stories, and the new one about how the Garland, TX wannabe-jihadis bought their guns via a branch of the ATF's Fast & Furious program, and...
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NORCAL to the courtesy phone..... NORCAL to the courtesy phone

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NORCAL to the courtesy phone..... NORCAL to the courtesy phone







No kidding.



 






Methinks I smell Dan in another guise.










(Hi Dan.)
Link Posted: 8/2/2015 5:08:11 AM EDT
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I've never been a fan of trophy hunting until now. I really want to shoot something majestic now.


I want to shoot a snow leopard and feed it to some spotted owls, then shoot them too...
I'm going to teach a silver back gorilla to smoke it will either get cancer or burn down the jungle either way it should piss off someone.  




As long as it knows how to light a lighter for other smokers, I'm down!



I'd love to see a gorilla light a cigarette for me.
I would be so damn happy if gorilla gave me a smoke.

 
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Methinks I smell Dan in another guise.
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NORCAL to the courtesy phone..... NORCAL to the courtesy phone


No kidding.

 
Methinks I smell Dan in another guise.
(Hi Dan.)

I think Dan was smart enough to put together an ar lower.

 
Link Posted: 8/2/2015 5:11:34 AM EDT
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I am shocked, shocked I say, that its Democrats putting this up.
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In before "You seem familiar...."



 
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(Hi Dan.)
I think Dan was smart enough to put together an ar lower.  


Dan was a Glock guy, you are giving him too much credit.
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Don't worry it will.

When they ban trophy hunting and they can't operate the wildlife refuges and conservation areas these hunts take place on, the locals and poachers will have culled ( locals with machine guns and jeeps is much more human) or killed everything in sight either for cash on the black market or due to trampled crops, deaths in the village, encrochment... Never fear though! We'll save a few to admire in cage only propagating the race by in-vitro and feeding them cat food.Yeah! That's Tomorrowland! Hope and Change!
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Fucking 15'rs
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I'm OK with animal equality supporters going the way of the dodobird
Link Posted: 8/2/2015 5:27:09 AM EDT
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Trophy hunting is the most ethical form of hunting.

The animals taken are the oldest and least productive, having reached old age and being near death.

The meat goes to locals who need it.

The money paid is often the entire yearly income for the locals.

The hides are exported which funds an entire industry for taxidermy and shipping that would not otherwise exist.

The tourist dollars are spent in areas that otherwise receive little to no tourism...effectively creating a money desert if not for the hunts.

Lastly, and most importantly, trophy hunting gives all of the people involved in the above strong financial incentive to protect the animals.  It gives the animals real monetary value.  Without this value, the animals are a nuisance to the locals and are slaughtered just like we kill roaches.  

Don't take my word for it...look at countries that outlawed safari hunting.  Look at their animal populations outside a few road based tourist parks.
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Link to end plate thread?
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End plate thread
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No, I actually think killing any animal for sport is stupid.  

Food only.

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But I was told they only want to stop illegal poaching  

In no way would this be turned into an attack on all hunters.
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No, I actually think killing any animal for sport is stupid.  

Food only.

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No, I actually think killing any animal for sport is stupid.  

Food only.



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