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Posted: 7/21/2015 6:01:53 PM EDT
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My spider sense is tingling.
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Posted: 7/21/2015 6:03:37 PM EDT
[#2]
huh.
If true, too bad the marine wasn't able to cap the guy. |
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Posted: 7/21/2015 6:05:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: huh. If true, too bad the marine wasn't able to cap the guy. If true, what's to say he didn't? |
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Posted: 7/21/2015 6:05:56 PM EDT
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"The FBI has recovered a pistol that may have been privately owned and used by one of the Marines killed here Thursday during the shooting at the Navy Operational Support Center, according to law enforcement officials. Investigators are trying to determine, based on forensics, whether the pistol, a 9mm Glock, was used in an exchange with the shooter, Mohammad Youssef Abdulazeez, and possibly wounded him, officials said." https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/marine-in-chattanooga-shooting-might-have-been-armed-officials-say/2015/07/20/1787a027-bbc4-429b-a8cc-9730d73b96a4_story.html Couldn't they just check to see if the magazine was full? It doesn't seem that complicated. |
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Posted: 7/21/2015 6:06:13 PM EDT
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If true, what's to say he didn't? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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huh. If true, too bad the marine wasn't able to cap the guy. If true, what's to say he didn't? I thought the popo made it pretty clear that they mowed him down. |
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Posted: 7/21/2015 6:07:26 PM EDT
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Couldn't they just check to see if the magazine was full? It doesn't seem that complicated. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"The FBI has recovered a pistol that may have been privately owned and used by one of the Marines killed here Thursday during the shooting at the Navy Operational Support Center, according to law enforcement officials. Investigators are trying to determine, based on forensics, whether the pistol, a 9mm Glock, was used in an exchange with the shooter, Mohammad Youssef Abdulazeez, and possibly wounded him, officials said." https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/marine-in-chattanooga-shooting-might-have-been-armed-officials-say/2015/07/20/1787a027-bbc4-429b-a8cc-9730d73b96a4_story.html Couldn't they just check to see if the magazine was full? It doesn't seem that complicated. Well, it's probably still surrounded with police tape and BATFE guys in hazmat suits. After that it'll be quarantined then hermetically sealed and sent to the FBI labs in Quantico where it will be studied by top men. TOP men... 
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Posted: 7/21/2015 6:07:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Couldn't they just check to see if the magazine was full? It doesn't seem that complicated. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"The FBI has recovered a pistol that may have been privately owned and used by one of the Marines killed here Thursday during the shooting at the Navy Operational Support Center, according to law enforcement officials. Investigators are trying to determine, based on forensics, whether the pistol, a 9mm Glock, was used in an exchange with the shooter, Mohammad Youssef Abdulazeez, and possibly wounded him, officials said." https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/marine-in-chattanooga-shooting-might-have-been-armed-officials-say/2015/07/20/1787a027-bbc4-429b-a8cc-9730d73b96a4_story.html Couldn't they just check to see if the magazine was full? It doesn't seem that complicated. There's typically some pretty obvious evidence ejected out the side each time you pull the trigger as well. |
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Posted: 7/21/2015 6:07:55 PM EDT
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Yup.
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Posted: 7/21/2015 6:08:12 PM EDT
[#9]
Get Some!
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Posted: 7/21/2015 6:09:43 PM EDT
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If Glock was there and didn't kill the shooter this will be used to say "see a CCW or weapon at the scene of the shooting doesn't make a difference" "this was a trained professional and he couldn't stop the shooter so how can a citizen CCW'er possibly make any difference?"
Wish the Marines did have guns and did return fire and did kill the bastard. |
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Posted: 7/21/2015 6:10:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought the popo made it pretty clear that they mowed him down. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: huh. If true, too bad the marine wasn't able to cap the guy. If true, what's to say he didn't? I thought the popo made it pretty clear that they mowed him down. It'd be interesting if the autopsy of the faggot showed that a 9mm round killed him rather than the .45 that the police carry there |
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Posted: 7/21/2015 6:10:29 PM EDT
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If they mowed him down the suspect may have been distracted or moved because the Marine struck him or fired on his position.
If ballistics prove this to be true that a round from the Glock struck the suspect or near where the suspect was during the firefight and the police say or FBI says this was a contributing factor to the suspects demise I think it will add fuel to the fire of the right to conceal carry. As in at leas the man had a fighting chance and used it to his advantage. Look how that guy in LV is still mentioned to this day right along side the cops that died that day. A total civilian that even thouh he died he was attempting to the right thing. |
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Posted: 7/21/2015 6:11:01 PM EDT
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There's typically some pretty obvious evidence ejected out the side each time you pull the trigger as well. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"The FBI has recovered a pistol that may have been privately owned and used by one of the Marines killed here Thursday during the shooting at the Navy Operational Support Center, according to law enforcement officials. Investigators are trying to determine, based on forensics, whether the pistol, a 9mm Glock, was used in an exchange with the shooter, Mohammad Youssef Abdulazeez, and possibly wounded him, officials said." https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/marine-in-chattanooga-shooting-might-have-been-armed-officials-say/2015/07/20/1787a027-bbc4-429b-a8cc-9730d73b96a4_story.html Couldn't they just check to see if the magazine was full? It doesn't seem that complicated. There's typically some pretty obvious evidence ejected out the side each time you pull the trigger as well. I swear, some people watch CSI and think everything's easy to figure out. 
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Posted: 7/21/2015 6:12:03 PM EDT
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If the Marine was armed contrary to regs, then God bless him and America!
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Posted: 7/21/2015 6:12:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Couldn't they just check to see if the magazine was full? It doesn't seem that complicated. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: "The FBI has recovered a pistol that may have been privately owned and used by one of the Marines killed here Thursday during the shooting at the Navy Operational Support Center, according to law enforcement officials. Investigators are trying to determine, based on forensics, whether the pistol, a 9mm Glock, was used in an exchange with the shooter, Mohammad Youssef Abdulazeez, and possibly wounded him, officials said." https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/marine-in-chattanooga-shooting-might-have-been-armed-officials-say/2015/07/20/1787a027-bbc4-429b-a8cc-9730d73b96a4_story.html Couldn't they just check to see if the magazine was full? It doesn't seem that complicated. |
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Posted: 7/21/2015 6:12:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Couldn't they just check to see if the magazine was full? It doesn't seem that complicated. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: "The FBI has recovered a pistol that may have been privately owned and used by one of the Marines killed here Thursday during the shooting at the Navy Operational Support Center, according to law enforcement officials. Investigators are trying to determine, based on forensics, whether the pistol, a 9mm Glock, was used in an exchange with the shooter, Mohammad Youssef Abdulazeez, and possibly wounded him, officials said." https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/marine-in-chattanooga-shooting-might-have-been-armed-officials-say/2015/07/20/1787a027-bbc4-429b-a8cc-9730d73b96a4_story.html Couldn't they just check to see if the magazine was full? It doesn't seem that complicated. |
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Posted: 7/21/2015 6:13:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If Glock was there and didn't kill the shooter this will be used to say "see a CCW or weapon at the scene of the shooting doesn't make a difference" "this was a trained professional and he couldn't stop the shooter so how can a citizen CCW'er possibly make any difference?" Wish the Marines did have guns and did return fire and did kill the bastard. "If he hadn't been bleeding out from the wound from the Marine, he may have put up more of a fight, and we may have some dead cops, too." |
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Posted: 7/21/2015 6:13:35 PM EDT
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It'd be interesting if the autopsy of the faggot showed that a 9mm round killed him rather than the .45 that the police carry there Quote HistoryQuoted:
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huh. If true, too bad the marine wasn't able to cap the guy. If true, what's to say he didn't? I thought the popo made it pretty clear that they mowed him down. It'd be interesting if the autopsy of the faggot showed that a 9mm round killed him rather than the .45 that the police carry there oh man the 9 vs 45 thread would be gruesome. |
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Posted: 7/21/2015 6:14:59 PM EDT
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My spider sense is tingling. "See! being armed didn't help and return fire was only dangerous to bystanders!" |
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Posted: 7/21/2015 6:16:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: oh man the 9 vs 45 thread would be gruesome. We can only hope the cocksucker "bought both". |
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Posted: 7/21/2015 6:16:42 PM EDT
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oh man the 9 vs 45 thread would be gruesome. 
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Posted: 7/21/2015 6:20:50 PM EDT
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are there fucking empty shells on the ground?! what fucking idiots!
MAY have? stupid shits! GSR on his hand, barrel? shells? hole size in glass? FUCKING BLOOD on sidewalk! HOW DO THESE DIPSHITS GET POSITION! |
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Posted: 7/21/2015 6:31:27 PM EDT
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"See! being armed didn't help and return fire was only dangerous to bystanders!" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My spider sense is tingling. "See! being armed didn't help and return fire was only dangerous to bystanders!" That, but my thinking is more that they are reactionary. OUR reaction to the whole incident is gaining traction -- about being armed, etc. In seeing that, to placate as many as they can, they are now saying they WERE armed, but it seems like a lot of smoke screening. "may" bothers me. Just thinking out loud... |
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Posted: 7/21/2015 6:33:40 PM EDT
[#24]
OST.
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Posted: 7/21/2015 6:34:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: are there fucking empty shells on the ground?! what fucking idiots! MAY have? stupid shits! GSR on his hand, barrel? shells? hole size in glass? FUCKING BLOOD on sidewalk! HOW DO THESE DIPSHITS GET POSITION! It's okay, you'll know in 6-8 weeks once the lab has decided  |
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Posted: 7/21/2015 6:35:37 PM EDT
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I'd like to think that if one of the Marines had shot him, that terrorist asshole slowly bled to death from it.
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Posted: 7/21/2015 6:36:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought the popo made it pretty clear that they mowed him down. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: huh. If true, too bad the marine wasn't able to cap the guy. If true, what's to say he didn't? I thought the popo made it pretty clear that they mowed him down. |
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Posted: 7/21/2015 6:36:52 PM EDT
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I hope he was able to put up a good fight
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Posted: 7/21/2015 6:41:05 PM EDT
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They know , they just haven't got their stories together of how they want to present this.
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Posted: 7/21/2015 6:41:09 PM EDT
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If Glock was there and didn't kill the shooter this will be used to say "see a CCW or weapon at the scene of the shooting doesn't make a difference" "this was a trained professional and he couldn't stop the shooter so how can a citizen CCW'er possibly make any difference?" Wish the Marines did have guns and did return fire and did kill the bastard. Maybe if he was not forced to keep it hidden because of stupid laws could be the counter. |
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Posted: 7/21/2015 6:44:12 PM EDT
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OST. |
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Posted: 7/21/2015 6:46:26 PM EDT
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And the next part will be "federal investigators are trying to determine if they can charge the dead Marine with carrying a weapon on federal property".
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Posted: 7/21/2015 6:50:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They know , they just haven't got their stories together of how they want to present this. non-stop. If we don't hear about it, they don't want to talk about it because it hurts the narrative. |
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Posted: 7/21/2015 6:52:11 PM EDT
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I thought the popo made it pretty clear that they mowed him down. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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huh. If true, too bad the marine wasn't able to cap the guy. If true, what's to say he didn't? I thought the popo made it pretty clear that they mowed him down. There is always a circle jerk of the responding officers in every one of these scenarios. |
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Posted: 7/21/2015 6:57:48 PM EDT
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Get Some! Awesome. |
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Posted: 7/21/2015 6:57:53 PM EDT
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And the next part will be "federal investigators are trying to determine if they can charge the dead Marine with carrying a weapon on federal property". Yup. Wonder if SGLI will fuck his family over this. |
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Posted: 7/21/2015 7:02:19 PM EDT
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Yup. Wonder if SGLI will fuck his family over this. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And the next part will be "federal investigators are trying to determine if they can charge the dead Marine with carrying a weapon on federal property". Yup. Wonder if SGLI will fuck his family over this. No, I already signed off on the Line of Duty investigation prior to the FBI primary report. Either way we caulking the guns up to guns stored in cars. |
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Posted: 7/21/2015 7:05:32 PM EDT
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No, I already signed off on the Line of Duty investigation prior to the FBI primary report. Either way we caulking the guns up to guns stored in cars. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And the next part will be "federal investigators are trying to determine if they can charge the dead Marine with carrying a weapon on federal property". Yup. Wonder if SGLI will fuck his family over this. No, I already signed off on the Line of Duty investigation prior to the FBI primary report. Either way we caulking the guns up to guns stored in cars. 
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Posted: 7/21/2015 7:08:05 PM EDT
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Even if he missed, bullets whizzing past my head has always been a great motivator to go some place else.
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Posted: 7/21/2015 7:10:47 PM EDT
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There is some stuff that will probably come out in tomorrows press conference
The Marine in question did save others lives by re-entering the HTC's fenced area and preventing the Jihadi from following the group that went over the fence. |
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Posted: 7/21/2015 7:14:35 PM EDT
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There is some stuff that will probably come out in tomorrows press conference The Marine in question did save others lives by re-entering the HTC's fenced area and preventing the Jihadi from following the group that went over the fence. I'm glad he met resistance, and I'm glad that people on the ground aren't afraid to say what's obvious. Thank you. |
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Posted: 7/21/2015 7:17:20 PM EDT
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If Glock was there and didn't kill the shooter this will be used to say "see a CCW or weapon at the scene of the shooting doesn't make a difference" "this was a trained professional and he couldn't stop the shooter so how can a citizen CCW'er possibly make any difference?" Wish the Marines did have guns and did return fire and did kill the bastard. Guns aren't magic charms that automatically kill bad guys. But they certainly offer a distinct fighting chance vs. being completely unarmed. Only the most foolish person believes otherwise. Most Marines have minimal handgun training. I agree they should have rifles. |
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Posted: 7/21/2015 7:18:49 PM EDT
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There is some stuff that will probably come out in tomorrows press conference The Marine in question did save others lives by re-entering the HTC's fenced area and preventing the Jihadi from following the group that went over the fence. Thank you for that |
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Posted: 7/21/2015 7:19:20 PM EDT
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If Glock was there and didn't kill the shooter this will be used to say "see a CCW or weapon at the scene of the shooting doesn't make a difference" "this was a trained professional and he couldn't stop the shooter so how can a citizen CCW'er possibly make any difference?" Wish the Marines did have guns and did return fire and did kill the bastard. Guns aren't magic charms that automatically kill bad guys. But they certainly offer a distinct fighting chance vs. being completely unarmed. Only the most foolish person believes otherwise. Most Marines have minimal (in service) handgun training. I agree they should have rifles. |
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Posted: 7/21/2015 7:19:22 PM EDT
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Died a warrior, weapon in hand.
There is a place at the table in Valhalla for this Marine. |
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Posted: 7/21/2015 7:21:02 PM EDT
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Obama will want to Court Martial the dead Marine.
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Posted: 7/21/2015 7:22:29 PM EDT
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The FBI will put more effort into investigating the possibility that one the Marines had an unauthorized firearm in their possession than they will into investigating the Muslim shooter.
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Posted: 7/21/2015 7:23:59 PM EDT
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Wouldn't surprise me. At least half my unit had guns in their cars
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Posted: 7/21/2015 7:27:09 PM EDT
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The FBI will put more effort into investigating the most expected likely possibility that one of the racist white cismale hetero fascist warmonger gun nut psychopath Marines had an unauthorized illegal assault murder firearm in their possession than they will into investigating the alleged peaceful not-representative-of-all allegedly Muslim alleged shooter. FIFY |
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Posted: 7/21/2015 7:33:40 PM EDT
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If he was armed...good.
However...how long until the administration tries to fuck his family out of his benefits for violating regulations? |
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