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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:23:36 PM EDT
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The answer you seek is: bad writing.
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:24:04 PM EDT
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I hated Jessie by the last season of the show. I was hoping someone would kill him.
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:24:17 PM EDT
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He needed someone to do his dirty work.
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:24:30 PM EDT
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The answer you seek is: bad writing. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Choke yourself. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:25:16 PM EDT
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Jesse was the son he never had.
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:25:42 PM EDT
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Why did he have such a hardon for Jessie? Why protect the kid ? I have seen the series a couple of times and havnt figured this out. Becuase Walt lost his father at a young age to a terrible disease. He never really had a father figure to look after and watch out for him. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:26:23 PM EDT
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He started actually disliking the kid in the beginning. Jessie was a means to his end.
The closeness developed later from shared experience, and coincided with loss of closeness to his own son/family. They also became more alike (both Jessie AND Walter changed). |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:26:44 PM EDT
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Jesse was the son he never had. Plus he was a son that he could share his new life with. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:27:08 PM EDT
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White was a meth dealing serial killer.
And probably a pedophile who abused his dope dealing serial killer partner when teaching school. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:27:42 PM EDT
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Jesse was the son he never had. This |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:27:49 PM EDT
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They were blind the whole time
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:28:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The answer you seek is: bad writing. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile  |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:30:35 PM EDT
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Perhaps it was Walter White's one link to his humanity as his character became darker before his quasi-redemption.
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:30:41 PM EDT
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maybe im full of shit
but I believe you will notice as his relationship with his family gets worse his relationship with Jesse grows I really didnt like it but I binged watched the entire thing over a couple weeks as I had time if you think about it everything happens for a reason and fits together like one giant puzzle |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:31:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: White was a meth dealing serial killer. And probably a pedophile who abused his dope dealing serial killer partner when teaching school. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:32:05 PM EDT
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They were blind the whole time I fucking knew it. Always wearing glasses and shit. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:34:45 PM EDT
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I hated Jessie by the last season of the show. I was hoping someone would kill him. Always hated Jessie. Hated it even more how people viewed him as a good guy. At least Walter knew what he was. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:39:24 PM EDT
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This got dark.
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White was a meth dealing serial killer. And probably a pedophile who abused his dope dealing serial killer partner when teaching school.
What besides the pedo speculation is not true? White killed and killed. Jessie killed. They sold meth. In bulk. Both deserved an ISIS-gruesome death. In episode 2. But I hate drug dealers. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:40:42 PM EDT
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The question I ask myself is: what would have happened to Gus had he gone with his gut instincts and never hired Walter White?
The man was cautious and calculating and made the right call the first time. I wonder how much that ate at him before his front half fell off. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:40:50 PM EDT
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White was a meth dealing serial killer. And probably a pedophile who abused his dope dealing serial killer partner when teaching school. Ooo, nope. Wrong on both counts. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:41:15 PM EDT
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What besides the pedo speculation is not true? White killed and killed. Jessie killed. They sold method. Both deserved an ISIS-gruesome death. In episode 2. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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White was a meth dealing serial killer. And probably a pedophile who abused his dope dealing serial killer partner when teaching school.
What besides the pedo speculation is not true? White killed and killed. Jessie killed. They sold method. Both deserved an ISIS-gruesome death. In episode 2. Jesse killed exactly 1 person and felt like complete shit over it. He wasn't exactly a serial killer. White was the serial killer. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:41:49 PM EDT
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The question I ask myself is: what would have happened to Gus had he gone with his gut instincts and never hired Walter White? The man was cautious and calculating and made the right call the first time. I wonder how much that ate at him before his front half fell off. Gus would have hired Gail, I guess? |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:43:32 PM EDT
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Ooo, nope. Wrong on both counts. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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White was a meth dealing serial killer. And probably a pedophile who abused his dope dealing serial killer partner when teaching school. Ooo, nope. Wrong on both counts. What's incorrect? White killed a dozen people. He made and sold meth. His partner did the same. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:44:45 PM EDT
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Jesse killed exactly 1 person and felt like complete shit over it. He wasn't exactly a serial killer. White was the serial killer. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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White was a meth dealing serial killer. And probably a pedophile who abused his dope dealing serial killer partner when teaching school.
What besides the pedo speculation is not true? White killed and killed. Jessie killed. They sold method. Both deserved an ISIS-gruesome death. In episode 2. Jesse killed exactly 1 person and felt like complete shit over it. He wasn't exactly a serial killer. White was the serial killer. Felony murder rule makes Jessie a serial murderer too. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:45:16 PM EDT
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Gus would have hired Gail, I guess? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The question I ask myself is: what would have happened to Gus had he gone with his gut instincts and never hired Walter White? The man was cautious and calculating and made the right call the first time. I wonder how much that ate at him before his front half fell off. Gus would have hired Gail, I guess? Gus had already hired Gail. Gail was the person who set up the lab under the laundry (we see Gus talking to Gail while he is unpacking equipment and setting up the lab in the first episode in season 4) and was already producing a product of high purity (96%). Gus even told Gail something along the lines of "For our purposes, 96% will do fine" when Gail was going on about the purity of Walter's product. That makes it even worse as Gus already had a loyal, stable, qualified chemist and a lab all ready to go and then he hired Walt. I assume Gus hired Walt thinking he would only work for him for 3 months (or a short period anyway) and Gail could learn from him along the way. I wonder what Gus was thinking when Gail was murdered. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:45:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Felony murder rule makes Jessie a serial murderer too. Jesus... Show me on the doll where the drug dealer touched you |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:46:13 PM EDT
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I hated Jessie by the last season of the show. I was hoping someone would kill him. Shit I liked him, he wanted to quit a long time ago but due to Walt's obsession with Jesse and cooking he kept being drug back in. Jesse was the only person alive at the end that was worth a shit. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:46:41 PM EDT
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Meh, with the exception of Jesse's girlfriend, White never killed anyone who didn't have it coming iirc. Not exactly a serial killer in the strictest since, but a murderer certainly.
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:46:59 PM EDT
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Edited...VA-gunnut
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:47:04 PM EDT
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Gus had already hired Gail. Gail was the person Gus used to set up the lab for him (we see this in the first episode in season 4) and was already producing a product of high purity (96%). Gus even told Gail "For our purposes, 96% will do fine" when Gail was going on about the purity of Walter's product. That makes it even worse as Gus already has a loyal, stable, qualified chemist and a lab all ready to go and then he hires Walt. I assume Gus hired Walt thinking he would only work for him for 3 months (or a short period anyway) and Gail could learn from him along the way. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The question I ask myself is: what would have happened to Gus had he gone with his gut instincts and never hired Walter White? The man was cautious and calculating and made the right call the first time. I wonder how much that ate at him before his front half fell off. Gus would have hired Gail, I guess? Gus had already hired Gail. Gail was the person Gus used to set up the lab for him (we see this in the first episode in season 4) and was already producing a product of high purity (96%). Gus even told Gail "For our purposes, 96% will do fine" when Gail was going on about the purity of Walter's product. That makes it even worse as Gus already has a loyal, stable, qualified chemist and a lab all ready to go and then he hires Walt. I assume Gus hired Walt thinking he would only work for him for 3 months (or a short period anyway) and Gail could learn from him along the way. You're right, forgot about that setup scene. Doesn't seem like a bad plan to bank on a man with stage 4? lung cancer dying soon. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:48:23 PM EDT
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Try the murder of my sister, fuckhead. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Felony murder rule makes Jessie a serial murderer too. Jesus... Show me on the doll where the drug dealer touched you Try the murder of my sister, fuckhead. I'm sorry that happened. If this is such an emotional issue for you, however, perhaps you shouldn't watch a show about drug dealers who kill people, or participate in discussions about that show. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:48:48 PM EDT
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Jesse killed exactly 1 person and felt like complete shit over it. He wasn't exactly a serial killer. White was the serial killer. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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White was a meth dealing serial killer. And probably a pedophile who abused his dope dealing serial killer partner when teaching school.
What besides the pedo speculation is not true? White killed and killed. Jessie killed. They sold method. Both deserved an ISIS-gruesome death. In episode 2. Jesse killed exactly 1 person and felt like complete shit over it. He wasn't exactly a serial killer. White was the serial killer. Up until the final season when he killed Mike and hired the Nazis to kill witnesses, every person Walt killed was either in self defense or as a preemptive strike against someone who was trying to kill him or Jessie. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:49:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm sorry that happened. If this is such an emotional issue for you, however, perhaps you shouldn't watch a show about drug dealers who kill people, or participate in discussions about that show. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Felony murder rule makes Jessie a serial murderer too. Jesus... Show me on the doll where the drug dealer touched you Try the murder of my sister, fuckhead. I'm sorry that happened. If this is such an emotional issue for you, however, perhaps you shouldn't watch a show about drug dealers who kill people, or participate in discussions about that show. No shit |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:49:46 PM EDT
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He needed someone to do his dirty work. This, he was using him the whole time, for everything. Jesse was easy to manipulate and he needed that. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:50:04 PM EDT
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You're right, forgot about that setup scene. Doesn't seem like a bad plan to bank on a man with stage 4? lung cancer dying soon. That's my guess (cancer meaning Walt doesn't work long). "The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long" only Walt wasn't a light; he was dynamite. Gus took a gamble and lost. I really wish we had more incite into his thinking during the whole thing. He strikes me as a fascinating character. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:50:11 PM EDT
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Try the murder of my sister, fuckhead. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Felony murder rule makes Jessie a serial murderer too. Jesus... Show me on the doll where the drug dealer touched you Try the murder of my sister, fuckhead. Ok, I'm about to sound like a massive dick but maybe you need to learn to separate reality from fantasy. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:50:15 PM EDT
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Meh, with the exception of Jesse's girlfriend, White never killed anyone who didn't have it coming iirc. Not exactly a serial killer in the strictest since, but a murderer certainly. He didn't kill Jane, he just didn't try to save her while she was choking on her own vomit. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:50:26 PM EDT
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It was a complex relationship for sure, but Jessie looked up to and basically worshipped Walter as a father. Walter, obviously having a difficult home situation with his real kids being taken from him by skyler. Walt also can celebrate their combined success with Jesse in ways he cannot with Walt JR. It was father-son on both sides with Walt and Jessie.
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:52:41 PM EDT
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He didn't kill Jane, he just didn't try to save her while she was choking on her own vomit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Meh, with the exception of Jesse's girlfriend, White never killed anyone who didn't have it coming iirc. Not exactly a serial killer in the strictest since, but a murderer certainly. He didn't kill Jane, he just didn't try to save her while she was choking on her own vomit. He did it to teach Jesse a lesson, he also did it so Jesse wouldn't leave him and so Jesse would come back to him and stop spending all of his time with Jane getting high. Remember at the end Walter said he enjoyed it, he enjoyed cooking meth, he enjoyed the danger, and he probably enjoyed killing people. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:52:43 PM EDT
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Try the murder of my sister, fuckhead. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Felony murder rule makes Jessie a serial murderer too. Jesus... Show me on the doll where the drug dealer touched you Try the murder of my sister, fuckhead. Your sister was murdered by a drug dealer or she took drugs and died? They're not the same thing. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:52:44 PM EDT
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Felony murder rule makes Jessie a serial murderer too. Jesus... Show me on the doll where the drug dealer touched you Try the murder of my sister, fuckhead. I'm sorry that happened. If this is such an emotional issue for you, however, perhaps you shouldn't watch a show about drug dealers who kill people, or participate in discussions about that show. No shit In watched one or two episodes to see if there was something redeeming about these characters. There wasn't. Given the general views on drug use expressed here, I don't get why any one liked these characters. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:52:47 PM EDT
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Meh, with the exception of Jesse's girlfriend, White never killed anyone who didn't have it coming iirc. Not exactly a serial killer in the strictest since, but a murderer certainly. Exactly, and he didn't kill her. Her junkie-ass killed herself. He just let it happen. She was trying to fuck him over too. If she hadn't tried to fuck him over he probably would have saved her. Even Mike (Arfcom's hero) had it coming. The only person I feel bad for was Gale Boetticher. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:52:53 PM EDT
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That's my guess (cancer meaning Walt doesn't work long). "The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long" only Walt wasn't a light; he was dynamite. Gus took a gamble and lost. I really wish we had more incite into his thinking during the whole thing. He strikes me as a fascinating character. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You're right, forgot about that setup scene. Doesn't seem like a bad plan to bank on a man with stage 4? lung cancer dying soon. That's my guess (cancer meaning Walt doesn't work long). "The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long" only Walt wasn't a light; he was dynamite. Gus took a gamble and lost. I really wish we had more incite into his thinking during the whole thing. He strikes me as a fascinating character. I want to know what was with that Chilean backstory of his. They touched on it briefly when Hank was investigating him, and then it went away. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:52:56 PM EDT
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BECAUSE HE DOES WHAT I TELL HIM TO
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:53:16 PM EDT
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Jesse killed exactly 1 person and felt like complete shit over it. He wasn't exactly a serial killer. White was the serial killer. Actually he killed 2. Gail and the last Salamanca enforcer in Mexico. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:54:41 PM EDT
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In watched one or two episodes to see if there was something redeeming about these characters. There wasn't. Given the general views on drug use expressed here, I don't get why any one liked these characters. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Try the murder of my sister, fuckhead. I'm sorry that happened. If this is such an emotional issue for you, however, perhaps you shouldn't watch a show about drug dealers who kill people, or participate in discussions about that show. No shit In watched one or two episodes to see if there was something redeeming about these characters. There wasn't. Given the general views on drug use expressed here, I don't get why any one liked these characters. You watched 2 episodes about these characters. The people discussing the show watched 62. You missed out on some very significant character development. Frankly, you have no business discussing the characters based on how little you know about them. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:54:58 PM EDT
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I'm sorry that happened. If this is such an emotional issue for you, however, perhaps you shouldn't watch a show about drug dealers who kill people, or participate in discussions about that show. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Felony murder rule makes Jessie a serial murderer too. Jesus... Show me on the doll where the drug dealer touched you Try the murder of my sister, fuckhead. I'm sorry that happened. If this is such an emotional issue for you, however, perhaps you shouldn't watch a show about drug dealers who kill people, or participate in discussions about that show. Well that escalated quickly, really that got out of hand fast. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:55:14 PM EDT
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Actually he killed 2. Gail and the last Salamanca enforcer in Mexico. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Jesse killed exactly 1 person and felt like complete shit over it. He wasn't exactly a serial killer. White was the serial killer. Actually he killed 2. Gail and the last Salamanca enforcer in Mexico. Self-defense shooting, but true. Should have said murdered 1 person. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:56:06 PM EDT
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I want to know what was with that Chilean backstory of his. They touched on it briefly when Hank was investigating him, and then it went away. I agree with this. Who was he (Gus) and what was in his past that kept a big-shot Drug lord from executing him right after he killed his partner and best friend? I don't really care for spin offs but I would not mind one showing the rise and fall of Gustavo Fring. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 5:56:27 PM EDT
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In watched one or two episodes to see if there was something redeeming about these characters. There wasn't. Given the general views on drug use expressed here, I don't get why any one liked these characters. Because we can separate reality from a T.V. show, Breaking Bad was not only about cooking and selling meth. |
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