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Posted: 5/27/2015 11:15:08 AM EDT
Some restaurants will add a fee for drinks that are served on the rocks
supposedly the drink has an extra oz liquor pour so they tack on an extra $1 to $4 for the extra booze apparently depending on their policy, different restaurants charge this fee for drinks served neat, on the rocks and straight up how could all of the alternatives have extra booze poured? something doesn't compute the only one that makes sense is a drink served neat, because extra booze would take the place of the ice if the glass is filled full they pull this scam on all kinds of drinks now - martinis, scotch, old fashioned, you name it |
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I've never heard of it.
If they are serving you a Double on the rocks compared to a single with coke that would make sense. |
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I've been bartending for years and I have never seen it.
But why are you ordering a Martini on the rocks? I'd charge you extra for that idiocy just on principle. |
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That has never happened to me, but I bet some places don't want the drinks to look crappy and unfilled, so they do a longer pour if you take it neat. They probably have giant rocks glasses.
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At the restaurant I worked at, straight liquors on the rocks were an upcharge because it was a larger pour.
Dewars on the rocks? Upcharge. Martini on the rocks? No upcharge, same pour. |
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IIRC, a shot is 1.5 oz and a drink ordered on the rocks is 2 or 2.5, or supposed to be.
Then you get the bars that use a 1.5 oz SIZED shot glass, that is mostly glass and only holds 1oz of liquid and still charge you $8 for a premium shot. I go to the bars that know me well and give me a whiskey glass with something over 1.5 oz as a shot. |
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Some restaurants will add a fee for drinks that are served on the rocks supposedly the drink has an extra oz liquor pour so they tack on an extra $1 to $4 for the extra booze apparently depending on their policy, different restaurants charge this fee for drinks served neat, on the rocks and straight up how could all of the alternatives have extra booze poured? something doesn't compute the only one that makes sense is a drink served neat, because extra booze would take the place of the ice if the glass is filled full they pull this scam on all kinds of drinks now - martinis, scotch, old fashioned, you name it View Quote Fuck that shit. |
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My register has the option for it, but no one actually uses it.
Theoretically a single is 1.25oz, rocks is 2oz and a double is 2.5oz. |
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I just buy a bottle and go home. The only up charge involved is when I charge the shot glass and turn it up.
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this crapola has been going on since about 2005 at least
the weird thing is that different places charge differently one place upcharges for neat, the other for on the rocks why on earth would a straight-up drink have an upcharge? makes zero sense |
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if this is a place you frequent with regularity,the way I see it you have two options.
1) change bars. 2) learn your bartender by his or her name AND learn how to tip. |
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Never heard of it nor have I ever been somewhere that does it.
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It all begins when a person is an innocent waif traipsing through life. Everything is new, fresh and exciting. Then responsibilities begin to weigh upon that person. Liabilities start to occur. Debt creeps in and energy levels wane. The person sees clouds for the first time in their rosy forecast, and is ultimately forced to admit that life is not just a joyous exercise of flip fantastic sex while dangling from a ceiling fan. There are dark forces at work in even the happiest of lives. Cancer, the madman next door, diseased ticks lurking in the shrubbery, intractably stupid children who won't stop drooling upon the upholstery, lost television remotes, on and on. Marriages sour and turn as dry as the prairie wind. A spouse can transform into a bitter harpy hellbent on squeezing the last precious drop of hope from a person. To paraphrase Thoreau people start to live lives of quiet desperation...and the song dies in them. These are the dark forces from which Vodka, for one, is forged. Vodka is the essence of want and need, of false hope and bitter winter. It is filtered through the shards of a thousand shattered dreams. It burns when you drink it, but the burn feels so good. Much like how Blues music is about failure...yet you feel good when you listen to it. You know alcohol is false, but for the moment it is full of promise. You know, promise? Like you used to have? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Someone please explain drinking alcohol It all begins when a person is an innocent waif traipsing through life. Everything is new, fresh and exciting. Then responsibilities begin to weigh upon that person. Liabilities start to occur. Debt creeps in and energy levels wane. The person sees clouds for the first time in their rosy forecast, and is ultimately forced to admit that life is not just a joyous exercise of flip fantastic sex while dangling from a ceiling fan. There are dark forces at work in even the happiest of lives. Cancer, the madman next door, diseased ticks lurking in the shrubbery, intractably stupid children who won't stop drooling upon the upholstery, lost television remotes, on and on. Marriages sour and turn as dry as the prairie wind. A spouse can transform into a bitter harpy hellbent on squeezing the last precious drop of hope from a person. To paraphrase Thoreau people start to live lives of quiet desperation...and the song dies in them. These are the dark forces from which Vodka, for one, is forged. Vodka is the essence of want and need, of false hope and bitter winter. It is filtered through the shards of a thousand shattered dreams. It burns when you drink it, but the burn feels so good. Much like how Blues music is about failure...yet you feel good when you listen to it. You know alcohol is false, but for the moment it is full of promise. You know, promise? Like you used to have? Bravo sir. |
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Never heard of anyone doing that, but ice does actually cost money to make, so . . .
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I always thought when making drink neat, the bartender pours in the same amount of ingredients as a drink with ice.
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There is a bourbon bar in NJ that does this. I asked the bartender why and this was his answer. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I've been bartending for years and I have never seen it. But why are you ordering a Martini on the rocks? I'd charge you extra for that idiocy just on principle. There is a bourbon bar in NJ that does this. I asked the bartender why and this was his answer. I was joking. But that is a very Jersey thing to do, and I totally believe you. |
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This. Local place that I go to watch PPV fights has everything for $3. Shot of Johnny Walker, Budweiser, Sierra Nevada Pale Ale, Crown Royal, Starfucker etc etc, you name it's $3. On the downside it does tend to attract the riff-raff. |
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I have never had this happen. I tip well, learn my bartenders name and whatever else I can pick up and try to go to bars where you know the bartenders have a heavy hand.
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First, I've never experienced this.
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they pull this scam on all kinds of drinks now - martinis... View Quote If you ask for a martini "on the rocks", you're lucky they're only charging you extra, instead of throwing your ass out. |
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It all begins when a person is an innocent waif traipsing through life. Everything is new, fresh and exciting. Then responsibilities begin to weigh upon that person. Liabilities start to occur. Debt creeps in and energy levels wane. The person sees clouds for the first time in their rosy forecast, and is ultimately forced to admit that life is not just a joyous exercise of flip fantastic sex while dangling from a ceiling fan. There are dark forces at work in even the happiest of lives. Cancer, the madman next door, diseased ticks lurking in the shrubbery, intractably stupid children who won't stop drooling upon the upholstery, lost television remotes, on and on. Marriages sour and turn as dry as the prairie wind. A spouse can transform into a bitter harpy hellbent on squeezing the last precious drop of hope from a person. To paraphrase Thoreau people start to live lives of quiet desperation...and the song dies in them. These are the dark forces from which Vodka, for one, is forged. Vodka is the essence of want and need, of false hope and bitter winter. It is filtered through the shards of a thousand shattered dreams. It burns when you drink it, but the burn feels so good. Much like how Blues music is about failure...yet you feel good when you listen to it. You know alcohol is false, but for the moment it is full of promise. You know, promise? Like you used to have? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Someone please explain drinking alcohol It all begins when a person is an innocent waif traipsing through life. Everything is new, fresh and exciting. Then responsibilities begin to weigh upon that person. Liabilities start to occur. Debt creeps in and energy levels wane. The person sees clouds for the first time in their rosy forecast, and is ultimately forced to admit that life is not just a joyous exercise of flip fantastic sex while dangling from a ceiling fan. There are dark forces at work in even the happiest of lives. Cancer, the madman next door, diseased ticks lurking in the shrubbery, intractably stupid children who won't stop drooling upon the upholstery, lost television remotes, on and on. Marriages sour and turn as dry as the prairie wind. A spouse can transform into a bitter harpy hellbent on squeezing the last precious drop of hope from a person. To paraphrase Thoreau people start to live lives of quiet desperation...and the song dies in them. These are the dark forces from which Vodka, for one, is forged. Vodka is the essence of want and need, of false hope and bitter winter. It is filtered through the shards of a thousand shattered dreams. It burns when you drink it, but the burn feels so good. Much like how Blues music is about failure...yet you feel good when you listen to it. You know alcohol is false, but for the moment it is full of promise. You know, promise? Like you used to have? I hate you. |
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It all begins when a person is an innocent waif traipsing through life. Everything is new, fresh and exciting. Then responsibilities begin to weigh upon that person. Liabilities start to occur. Debt creeps in and energy levels wane. The person sees clouds for the first time in their rosy forecast, and is ultimately forced to admit that life is not just a joyous exercise of flip fantastic sex while dangling from a ceiling fan. There are dark forces at work in even the happiest of lives. Cancer, the madman next door, diseased ticks lurking in the shrubbery, intractably stupid children who won't stop drooling upon the upholstery, lost television remotes, on and on. Marriages sour and turn as dry as the prairie wind. A spouse can transform into a bitter harpy hellbent on squeezing the last precious drop of hope from a person. To paraphrase Thoreau people start to live lives of quiet desperation...and the song dies in them. These are the dark forces from which Vodka, for one, is forged. Vodka is the essence of want and need, of false hope and bitter winter. It is filtered through the shards of a thousand shattered dreams. It burns when you drink it, but the burn feels so good. Much like how Blues music is about failure...yet you feel good when you listen to it. You know alcohol is false, but for the moment it is full of promise. You know, promise? Like you used to have? View Quote We got ourselves a Hemingway here. I'll have what he's having... on the rocks. |
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I can't believe so many of you have never experienced this it is very common practice.
The standard price is for a shot 1.25-1.5 oz rocks or neat is 2-2.5 oz. you expect them to give you the extra booze for free or you want a shot in a rocks glass and then complain it doesn't have enough in it? martinis or an old fashioned they are assholes if they tack on a rocks fee unless you ask for it stronger the martini is already an upcharge over the shot of vodka or gin again because it has more booze. I bet a lot of you that have never experienced it will if you go to a bar you frequent and order a shot of x liquor and then same liquor on the rocks. Usually the check won't show Jack daniels $3 +rocks$2 it will just show jack daniels rocks $5 |
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managed a lot of bars and all different kinds...hotels, casinos, night clubs, dance clubs and pubs..
never heard of upcharges for ice.. maybe in Californication..as they up charge or tax or have a fee for damn near everything just for being there and breathing. EDIT!! some(most) bars may charge for "doubles" when pouring a "rocks" drink. as a single ounce or ounce and a quarter(standard) ounce and a half looks LONELY and gets complaints so charging for a double or "shot and a half" may be their answer to controlling costs.. 28 shots per bottle is the average expectation..if they are using a drink gun? they can't pour more than the controlled ounce portion and we're back at charging extra for rocks drinks aka doubles..though drink guns usually have settings for "rock" drinks and the upcharge to go with it. Some bars charge a drink and 1/2 price for rocks drinks as it's generally at least 2 to 2.5 oz.. |
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Some restaurants will add a fee for drinks that are served on the rocks supposedly the drink has an extra oz liquor pour so they tack on an extra $1 to $4 for the extra booze apparently depending on their policy, different restaurants charge this fee for drinks served neat, on the rocks and straight up how could all of the alternatives have extra booze poured? something doesn't compute the only one that makes sense is a drink served neat, because extra booze would take the place of the ice if the glass is filled full they pull this scam on all kinds of drinks now - martinis, scotch, old fashioned, you name it View Quote Isn't "neat" and "straight up" the same thing? |
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Sounds like something they add to bring up the total to the already drunk guy.
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I've never figured out any pricing scheme that makes sense at bars.
I know one bar that charges $3.75 for a pint of craft beer, $4 for a shot of Jim Beam, and charged me $7 for a three finger pour of Woodford Reserve. |
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