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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:23:49 AM EDT
The next time you decide to floor it and blow down the New Jersey Turnpike, beware of a new fleet of "ghost cars" lurking in traffic and waiting to stick you with a ticket.
The State Police today unveiled a newly designed black Chevy Caprice with a frosted image of the division's logo that will be out on the streets just in time for the unofficial start of summer. While the cars are technically marked, they won't stand out in traffic. "The only new thing here is the graphics," State Police Capt. Stephen Jones said. "We've had unmarked cars for years, and it is an effective way to catch that segment of idiot drivers who behave dangerously on the roads until they see a marked car." Jones said these new cars will blend in, just like unmarked cars. http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2015/05/bad_drivers_beware_new_ghosts_patrolling_the_nj_tu.html Surprised it took them this long. We and other departments went down this path years ago. 
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:26:24 AM EDT
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No tinted front windows for the peasantry!
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:27:24 AM EDT
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No tinted front windows for the peasantry! Cars get HOT inside with all the electronics without it. 
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:29:17 AM EDT
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Between Virginia and Maryland I have seen everything from a moped to a garbage truck used this way.
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:30:07 AM EDT
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Between Virginia and Maryland I have seen everything from a moped to a garbage truck used this way. The south has the monopoly on weird patrol cars. |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:32:54 AM EDT
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Pickup trucks are not uncommon around here. Generally they are used for DOT inspections but they also do regular traffic enforcement at times.
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:37:47 AM EDT
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Pickup trucks are not uncommon around here. Generally they are used for DOT inspections but they also do regular traffic enforcement at times. My town guys have a Dodge 1500 in their fleet. |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:40:58 AM EDT
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Indiana SP has a DOT-marked F150 working the construction zones and interstate around Indy. So, if you're driving a white F150 and are stuck behind a 911 fastidiously adhering to the posted limit, you now know why.
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:42:00 AM EDT
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I hate this form of reactive policing...
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:42:03 AM EDT
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Lots of local PD's in NJ do this already.
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:42:21 AM EDT
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I am not a fan of unmarked traffic squads.
I don't like these either. The whole purpose is to have visibility so people obey traffic laws without having to stop them. The idea of using unmarked or "low profile" cars to enforce traffic is just counter productive. But that's my opinion and I'm not the decider. But I won't drive one. |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:42:49 AM EDT
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My old boss on the criminal warrant team drove an old beater minivan. We could roll up damn near anywhere and grab fools. Nobody ever gave it a second look.
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:43:05 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:43:41 AM EDT
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Cars doing traffic stops should at the very least have a full size light bar on the roof.
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:43:51 AM EDT
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My old boss on the criminal warrant team drove an old beater minivan. We could roll up damn near anywhere and grab fools. Nobody ever gave it a second look. We had an unmarked Prius for awhile that worked great. Wasn't used for traffic though. |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:44:40 AM EDT
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Are "Ghost Cars" like "Ghost Guns"? Build 'em yourself with no VIN? I don't know what the equivalent of a "30 magazine clip" would be on a 'ghost car.'
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:45:56 AM EDT
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Does this skirt some kind of legislation? Like something about unmarked cars not being able to do traffic enforcement or something?
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:46:07 AM EDT
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We had an unmarked Prius for awhile that worked great. Wasn't used for traffic though. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My old boss on the criminal warrant team drove an old beater minivan. We could roll up damn near anywhere and grab fools. Nobody ever gave it a second look. We had an unmarked Prius for awhile that worked great. Wasn't used for traffic though. Would be great for traffic. Wouldn't even have to write tickets. The shame of being pulled over by a Prius trumps any fine you could levy. |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:46:13 AM EDT
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Between Virginia and Maryland I have seen everything from a moped to a garbage truck used this way. The south has the monopoly on weird patrol cars. You must not be familiar Connecticut. Or its state police. Or their fleet of vehicles. |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:47:58 AM EDT
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We had an unmarked Prius for awhile that worked great. Wasn't used for traffic though. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My old boss on the criminal warrant team drove an old beater minivan. We could roll up damn near anywhere and grab fools. Nobody ever gave it a second look. We had an unmarked Prius for awhile that worked great. Wasn't used for traffic though. Unmarked or odd vehicles have their place, don't get me wrong, but traffic enforcement isn't ( or shouldn't ) be one. |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:48:06 AM EDT
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Lots of local PD's in NJ do this already. Yup. |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:48:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are "Ghost Cars" like "Ghost Guns"? Build 'em yourself with no VIN? I don't know what the equivalent of a "30 magazine clip" would be on a 'ghost car.' |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:48:57 AM EDT
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I am not a fan of unmarked traffic squads. I don't like these either. The whole purpose is to have visibility so people obey traffic laws without having to stop them. The idea of using unmarked or "low profile" cars to enforce traffic is just counter productive. But that's my opinion and I'm not the decider. But I won't drive one. Meh. People will drive like idiots until they see a cop... then go back to driving like them once they're out of sight. We get plenty of "aggressive driver" complaints for that reason. |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:49:17 AM EDT
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Cars doing traffic stops should at the very least have a full size light bar on the roof. Not worth the cost anymore. |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:49:51 AM EDT
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Does this skirt some kind of legislation? Like something about unmarked cars not being able to do traffic enforcement or something? Not around here. Maybe in Wisconsin? |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:50:01 AM EDT
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Between Virginia and Maryland I have seen everything from a moped to a garbage truck used this way. The south has the monopoly on weird patrol cars. Spokane has mustangs Colfax has a subaru Beat that? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:50:17 AM EDT
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I hate this form of reactive policing... Revenue has to be generated somehow . |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:50:20 AM EDT
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You must not be familiar Connecticut. Or its state police. Or their fleet of vehicles. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Between Virginia and Maryland I have seen everything from a moped to a garbage truck used this way. The south has the monopoly on weird patrol cars. You must not be familiar Connecticut. Or its state police. Or their fleet of vehicles. I am very familiar with them, actually. 
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:50:48 AM EDT
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Spokane has mustangs Colfax has a subaru Beat that? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Between Virginia and Maryland I have seen everything from a moped to a garbage truck used this way. The south has the monopoly on weird patrol cars. Spokane has mustangs Colfax has a subaru Beat that? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Spokane, Mexico?
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:51:24 AM EDT
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I am very familiar with them, actually.
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Between Virginia and Maryland I have seen everything from a moped to a garbage truck used this way. The south has the monopoly on weird patrol cars. You must not be familiar Connecticut. Or its state police. Or their fleet of vehicles. I am very familiar with them, actually.
Then I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. 
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:52:12 AM EDT
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Meh. People will drive like idiots until they see a cop... then go back to driving like them once they're out of sight. We get plenty of "aggressive driver" complaints for that reason. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I am not a fan of unmarked traffic squads. I don't like these either. The whole purpose is to have visibility so people obey traffic laws without having to stop them. The idea of using unmarked or "low profile" cars to enforce traffic is just counter productive. But that's my opinion and I'm not the decider. But I won't drive one. Meh. People will drive like idiots until they see a cop... then go back to driving like them once they're out of sight. We get plenty of "aggressive driver" complaints for that reason. Of course they will. Like I said, unmarked squads have their place, but traditional traffic enforcement isn't one. |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:53:20 AM EDT
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Between Virginia and Maryland I have seen everything from a moped to a garbage truck used this way. The south has the monopoly on weird patrol cars. Spokane has mustangs Colfax has a subaru Beat that? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Blue Scion xB with body kit This was an unmarked car working with an unmakred Silverado on 183 in Austin a few weeks back. |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:53:46 AM EDT
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I hate this form of reactive policing... Revenue has to be generated somehow . You have no idea what you're talking about. Regurgitating shit you've heard on the internet does not make you smart. |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:53:58 AM EDT
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A department near here has some stealth cars.
I predict those will be citation issuing machines. |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:54:24 AM EDT
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Then I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Between Virginia and Maryland I have seen everything from a moped to a garbage truck used this way. The south has the monopoly on weird patrol cars. You must not be familiar Connecticut. Or its state police. Or their fleet of vehicles. I am very familiar with them, actually.
Then I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. And I am familiar with the south as well. Having driven down to SC / GA a few times.
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:54:50 AM EDT
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Sneaky bastards
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:55:38 AM EDT
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You have no idea what you're talking about. Regurgitating shit you've heard on the internet does not make you smart. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I hate this form of reactive policing... Revenue has to be generated somehow . You have no idea what you're talking about. Regurgitating shit you've heard on the internet does not make you smart. Lol @ your butthurt. |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:55:40 AM EDT
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I preferred the overly marked car when I was in traffic even though we had an unmarked we could use. The unmarked had a crappy light system in it and no one ever got out of your way. Got just as many tickets as the guys in the unmarked.
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:56:33 AM EDT
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Between Virginia and Maryland I have seen everything from a moped to a garbage truck used this way. The south has the monopoly on weird patrol cars. Spokane has mustangs Colfax has a subaru Beat that? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile AL State Troopers use to have an unmarked Lexus sedan they used around Montgomery/Prattville. First time I saw it the driver was crossing the median and I had already seen a half dozen marked Trooper cars and I thought he is about to get busted then the blue lights came on. I |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:56:33 AM EDT
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The south has the monopoly on weird patrol cars. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Between Virginia and Maryland I have seen everything from a moped to a garbage truck used this way. The south has the monopoly on weird patrol cars. The NJSP use a wide variety of unconventional unmarked cars. Minivans, pickups, imports, grandma sedans... Just an odd lot. It's like someone realized that a fleet model in fleet model colors with alley lights and fairly obvious "low profile" party flashers stands out like a sore thumb.
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:56:50 AM EDT
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Lol @ your butthurt. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I hate this form of reactive policing... Revenue has to be generated somehow . You have no idea what you're talking about. Regurgitating shit you've heard on the internet does not make you smart. Lol @ your butthurt. You really need to get your own material. Again with the internet puke. |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:56:51 AM EDT
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Cars doing traffic stops should at the very least have a full size light bar on the roof. Not worth the cost anymore. A light bar on the roof lets people know without question that the car behind them is actually a police car. Inside headliner bars are not suitable substitutes. Furthermore I question the total cost of ownership since a roof mounted lightbar can be put on a new body style with a couple of cheap brackets while headliner bars are much more specific to a body style limiting their ability to be reused. |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:56:52 AM EDT
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Between Virginia and Maryland I have seen everything from a moped to a garbage truck used this way. The south has the monopoly on weird patrol cars. I take it you've never been to Hawaii. Some patrol vehicles are personally owned by the officer. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:57:57 AM EDT
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You really need to get your own material. Again with the internet puke. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I hate this form of reactive policing... Revenue has to be generated somehow . You have no idea what you're talking about. Regurgitating shit you've heard on the internet does not make you smart. Lol @ your butthurt. You really need to get your own material. Again with the internet puke. Your bias is entertaining . Please keep going. |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:58:02 AM EDT
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Indiana SP has a DOT-marked F150 working the construction zones and interstate around Indy. So, if you're driving a white F150 and are stuck behind a 911 fastidiously adhering to the posted limit, you now know why.
TC They have a white F-150 and a yellow DOT truck with ladder racks also down south of you They can catch more that enough without the unmarked shit. I wish people including me would not stop unless marked.
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:58:51 AM EDT
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I am not a fan of unmarked traffic squads. I don't like these either. The whole purpose is to have visibility so people obey traffic laws without having to stop them. The idea of using unmarked or "low profile" cars to enforce traffic is just counter productive. But that's my opinion and I'm not the decider. But I won't drive one. You won't see the real oddballs pulling people over for piddly shit. The only time they come out of the closet is when they stop a real winner, and then you see four, five, six of 'em all at once. If I were to guess, the guys in the oddballs probably radio to marked units for routine stuff.
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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:58:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: AL State Troopers use to have an unmarked Lexus sedan they used around Montgomery/Prattville. First time I saw it the driver was crossing the median and I had already seen a half dozen marked Trooper cars and I thought he is about to get busted then the blue lights came on. I Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Between Virginia and Maryland I have seen everything from a moped to a garbage truck used this way. The south has the monopoly on weird patrol cars. Spokane has mustangs Colfax has a subaru Beat that? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile AL State Troopers use to have an unmarked Lexus sedan they used around Montgomery/Prattville. First time I saw it the driver was crossing the median and I had already seen a half dozen marked Trooper cars and I thought he is about to get busted then the blue lights came on. I |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 12:01:06 PM EDT
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I preferred the overly marked car when I was in traffic even though we had an unmarked we could use. The unmarked had a crappy light system in it and no one ever got out of your way. Got just as many tickets as the guys in the unmarked. http://i.imgur.com/eIM2NoO.png Doubt the NJSP has your former departments tight ass behavior. |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 12:01:29 PM EDT
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I take it you've never been to Hawaii. Some patrol vehicles are personally owned by the officer. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Between Virginia and Maryland I have seen everything from a moped to a garbage truck used this way. The south has the monopoly on weird patrol cars. I take it you've never been to Hawaii. Some patrol vehicles are personally owned by the officer. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Was going to post about Hawaii. |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 12:01:40 PM EDT
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The NJSP use a wide variety of unconventional unmarked cars. Minivans, pickups, imports, grandma sedans... Just an odd lot. It's like someone realized that a fleet model in fleet model colors with alley lights and fairly obvious "low profile" party flashers stands out like a sore thumb. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Between Virginia and Maryland I have seen everything from a moped to a garbage truck used this way. The south has the monopoly on weird patrol cars. The NJSP use a wide variety of unconventional unmarked cars. Minivans, pickups, imports, grandma sedans... Just an odd lot. It's like someone realized that a fleet model in fleet model colors with alley lights and fairly obvious "low profile" party flashers stands out like a sore thumb. I have never seen one used in patrol however. Do they have a fleet of them? Yeah. |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 12:02:16 PM EDT
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Between Virginia and Maryland I have seen everything from a moped to a garbage truck used this way. The south has the monopoly on weird patrol cars. Spokane has mustangs Colfax has a subaru Beat that? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Garbage trucks,mini vans,Camrys, beater pick ups, every suv ever made. cross overs, they have used every type of vehicle around here since the 70's. |
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