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Posted: 4/16/2015 12:22:24 AM EDT
Why do they care?
Odds are, most people getting abortions or are pro abortion are not Republican.  
Seems like a self correcting problem, Move On.
Link Posted: 4/16/2015 12:23:55 AM EDT
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I always figured the best way to shrink the welfare rolls would be free birth control for everyone.
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Why do you care?
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Why do you care?

Its costing Republicans votes
Link Posted: 4/16/2015 12:26:56 AM EDT
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Racists support abortion. Always been that way.
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I guess that's like your opinion man...
Link Posted: 4/16/2015 12:30:38 AM EDT
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Again with this? Bored tonight?
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Why do they care?

Odds are, most people getting abortions or are pro abortion are not Republican.  

Seems like a self correcting problem, Move On.




Why do you care?


Its costing Republicans votes
I kind of agree.

 
During election cycles, the abortion and "bedroom issues" for the right are as caustic as the second amendment is to the left...
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If there was ONE type of welfare/subsidy I'd have zero problem paying for with my taxes, it would be free contraception.

Teaching "abstinence" does jack shit.
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Why do they care?
Odds are, most people getting abortions or are pro abortion are not Republican.  
Seems like a self correcting problem, Move On.


Why do you care?

Its costing Republicans votes


Cite?
Link Posted: 4/16/2015 12:33:42 AM EDT
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Oh THIS topic's never been done before.  

Well today, anyway.

To answer you question, many people consider abortion to be murder.  That's why we care.
Link Posted: 4/16/2015 12:33:48 AM EDT
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It's an easy trap to fall into if you don't know the history of Eugenics/Molecular Biology.
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Simply put, if I believe something is murder and don't have a problem, what does that say about me?
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It doesn't make sense.  If welches don't want the responsibility, so be it.

We don't need that demographic of voters any more than we need to facilitate the perpetual crybaby.  Fuck the flamesuit.




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Why do they care?
Odds are, most people getting abortions or are pro abortion are not Republican.  
Seems like a self correcting problem, Move On.


Why do you care?

Its costing Republicans votes
I kind of agree.   During election cycles, the abortion and "bedroom issues" for the right are as caustic as the second amendment is to the left...

Why would any Republican care if every single Democrat woman had an abortion every single time they got pregnant for the next 30 years?
Less of them, more of you.
Trust this....if every Democrat could put something in the public water supply that would Only keep Republicans from breathing and breeding more Republicans........They would.
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Odds are, most people getting abortions or are pro abortion are not Republican.  


Seems like a self correcting problem, Move On.






Why do you care?



Its costing Republicans votes






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Well, for a small sample - at least 32% of arfcom (assuming most of arfcom leans right)....

 







 
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Why do they care?
Odds are, most people getting abortions or are pro abortion are not Republican.  
Seems like a self correcting problem, Move On.


Why do you care?

Its costing Republicans votes


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Well, for a small sample - at least 32% of arfcom (assuming most of arfcom leans right)....  

https://www.ar15.com/mobile/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1736779

 


I don't think that poll proves what you think it proves.

I voted yes because I won't vote for a pro choicer.
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I don't think that poll proves what you think it proves.





I voted yes because I won't vote for a pro choicer.
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Well, for a small sample - at least 32% of arfcom (assuming most of arfcom leans right)....  

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I don't think that poll proves what you think it proves.

I voted yes because I won't vote for a pro choicer.
I think you just qualified GlorifiedG's point...    


Ok...insomnia being what it is, entertain me with the convoluted logic that brings you to the conclusion that I "qualified" his point.

Link Posted: 4/16/2015 12:54:07 AM EDT
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What is the purpose of this thread? And the 87,000 previous generic abortion threads?
Are declared and/or potential republican candidates spending a lot of time on abortion and you're wondering why?
Or is it a desire to keep the abortion issue percolating?
What's the reason?
Link Posted: 4/16/2015 1:03:51 AM EDT
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Many elections have been lost by Republicans for this reason alone.
Many women agree with Republican ideals, except for this one issue.
That's a point of contention that they could leave alone and through other policies, let people change their own minds on later.
But women sure as shit don't like being told what they can and cannot or should and should not do with their own body, it just pisses them the Fuck off.
Perhaps later they'll come around, but not this way.
Link Posted: 4/16/2015 1:15:26 AM EDT
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I know that when you uncritically accept what the TV says one might be inclined to think this.  But real polls on the subject shows that support for abortion is about 50/50. So while ditching a pro life platform might attract a small "conservative but pro choice" segment of voters, it will alienate a huge segment of the base creating a net loss for Republicans.
Link Posted: 4/16/2015 1:15:56 AM EDT
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WalkerBushPaulCruz are not running around babbling about abortion? House or senate voting on it? Why is it an issue today, April16 2015?
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Odds are, most people getting abortions or are pro abortion are not Republican.  
Seems like a self correcting problem, Move On.


Why do you care?

Its costing Republicans votes


It's not the only thing costing them votes, in fact it is likely a very small part of their problem.
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I know that when you uncritically accept what the TV says one might be inclined to think this.  But real polls on the subject shows that support for abortion is about 50/50. So while ditching a pro life platform might attract a small "conservative but pro choice" segment of voters, it will alienate a huge segment of the base creating a net loss for Republicans.
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I know that when you uncritically accept what the TV says one might be inclined to think this.  But real polls on the subject shows that support for abortion is about 50/50. So while ditching a pro life platform might attract a small "conservative but pro choice" segment of voters, it will alienate a huge segment of the base creating a net loss for Republicans.

By alienate, you mean Republican women will vote Democrat?
A small vote the other way would have kept jug ears out second time, doncha know.
Link Posted: 4/16/2015 1:30:46 AM EDT
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Maybe there are people who believe that standing up for what is right is more important than winning, or that allowing people to kill children so they could get elected would be wrong?

If you only had to kill one child to be elected president, would you do it?

Maybe they believe that the abortion issue is more important than any other issue in America today.

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By alienate, you mean Republican women will vote Democrat?
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I know that when you uncritically accept what the TV says one might be inclined to think this.  But real polls on the subject shows that support for abortion is about 50/50. So while ditching a pro life platform might attract a small "conservative but pro choice" segment of voters, it will alienate a huge segment of the base creating a net loss for Republicans.

By alienate, you mean Republican women will vote Democrat?
A small vote the other way would have kept jug ears out second time, doncha know.


No. Pro lifers will stay home and stop donating in droves.

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The way things are these days, abortion as a political issue is like debating what color to paint the living room while the kitchen is on fire. There are far more important things that we need to be attending to.

Don't care... at all. (And let's face it, it's a political loser. That genie is never going back in the bottle.)
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Maybe there are people who believe that standing up for what is right is more important than winning, or that allowing people to kill children so they could get elected would be wrong?

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I wouldn't be the one killing that one kid, they would, and they'd have to live with it not me.
The Democrats have no problem killing peoples souls by confiscating their wealth and redistributing it to your political opposites, and keep winning.
And so it was, he stood by his morals and is no more, Poor sap.
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yeah, being pro abortion suuuuure helped the democrat party in 2010 and 2014.
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Many elections have been lost by Republicans for this reason alone.


Many women agree with Republican ideals, except for this one issue.


That's a point of contention that they could leave alone and through other policies, let people change their own minds on later.


But women sure as shit don't like being told what they can and cannot or should and should not do with their own body, it just pisses them the Fuck off.


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Republicans, barring the current office of presidency, hold more Congressional seats, Senate seats, governorships, and state house seats than at any time since WWII.





Just what the fuck are they doing wrong there cowboy?  





The goddam country is a sea of Red, and in 2016 we have a better than even chance of getting the POTUS  according to every poll out there.  Jesus, you'd think the GOP is running a whorehouse and losing money with all the "if only the Republicans did this they might could win" threads on the Internet.




 






 





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And so it was, he stood by his morals and is no more, Poor sap.


yeah, being pro abortion suuuuure helped the democrat party in 2010 and 2014.

Oh, that's what won it? Wow.
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Because GOP leadership has gerrymandered themselves hyper-conservative districts.  All they have to do each election cycle is wag the abortion stick to scare evangelicals to the polls.  Unfortunately, this fucks over Republicans outside the bible belt when idiots spout off about "legitimate rape."
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Republicans, barring the current office of presidency, hold more Congressional seats, Senate seats, governorships, and state house seats than at any time since WWII.

Just what the fuck are they doing wrong there cowboy?  

The goddam country is a sea of Red, and in 2016 we have a better than even chance of getting the POTUS  according to every poll out there.  Jesus, you'd think the GOP is running a whorehouse and losing money with all the "if only the Republicans did this they might could win" threads on the Internet.
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Many elections have been lost by Republicans for this reason alone.
Many women agree with Republican ideals, except for this one issue.
That's a point of contention that they could leave alone and through other policies, let people change their own minds on later.
But women sure as shit don't like being told what they can and cannot or should and should not do with their own body, it just pisses them the Fuck off.
Perhaps later they'll come around, but not this way.
Republicans, barring the current office of presidency, hold more Congressional seats, Senate seats, governorships, and state house seats than at any time since WWII.

Just what the fuck are they doing wrong there cowboy?  

The goddam country is a sea of Red, and in 2016 we have a better than even chance of getting the POTUS  according to every poll out there.  Jesus, you'd think the GOP is running a whorehouse and losing money with all the "if only the Republicans did this they might could win" threads on the Internet.




The republicans ONLY saving grace in 2010 and 2014 has been how bad dems looked and acted.

If they stopped self sabotaging on the stupidity that is their stance on gay marriage, abortion, and even maybe the debil refer, they'd have a shot at going toe to toe in an election that mattered and winning.

On the plus side, I have no problems welcoming hill dog so we can watch the majority in the house and senate cave on everything that matters against another should be powerless dem in the white house. Should be a hoot.
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And so it was, he stood by his morals and is no more, Poor sap.


yeah, being pro abortion suuuuure helped the democrat party in 2010 and 2014.

Oh, that's what won it? Wow.


...apparently we didn't win based on superior reading comp skills. Jesus.

The theory being bandied about here, which was invented by liberal democrats I might add, is that conservative social positions cost GOP candidates elections, and therefore win elections for democrats. If that is the case, how come democrats lose a LOT. They've got a mud hole stomped in their ass twice in the last 4 years. Other than that, their gay/enviro-nazi/feminazi/pot smoking/abort them all nonsense is working great!

I'm not suggesting that the GOP should lead with social issues on all fronts, but the theory that they need to abandon all morals and become democrats a) is the medias plan for how to stop republicans from ever getting elected, and b) keeps people at home and unexcited about voting. Remember Reagan, bold colors....not pale pastels. Also, stop listening to what the media is telling you everyone thinks. It's coloring your judgement. The percentage of people that would love to vote GOP but refuse to do so base on abortion is very VERY small.
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Why would any Republican care if every single Democrat woman had an abortion every single time they got pregnant for the next 30 years?
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Odds are, most people getting abortions or are pro abortion are not Republican.  
Seems like a self correcting problem, Move On.


Why do you care?

Its costing Republicans votes
I kind of agree.   During election cycles, the abortion and "bedroom issues" for the right are as caustic as the second amendment is to the left...

Why would any Republican care if every single Democrat woman had an abortion every single time they got pregnant for the next 30 years?
Less of them, more of you.
Trust this....if every Democrat could put something in the public water supply that would Only keep Republicans from breathing and breeding more Republicans........They would.


Let's expand that to Jews or any others you see as untermenschen and see how you like the sound of it.
It's murder and murder is wrong, that is why some of us care.
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You staunch anti abortion guys really ought to spend more time working in The Hood. You'll meet all kinds of democrats that could enlighten your thought processes.
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Well if you believe that abortion is basically murder in most cases, you probably are going to have strong feelings about it.

It should always be handled by state law though, since it's not a constitutional issue.  Which is one reason Roe vs Wade shouldn't have gone to the Supreme Court.
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We lost again
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Let's expand that to Jews or any others you see as untermenschen and see how you like the sound of it.
It's murder and murder is wrong, that is why some of us care.

That's interesting, but for now lets just keep it about people that more of my tax money so they can give it to those that have no intention of working or paying taxes.
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I think you are correct on this.



However I can't help but wonder what will have more of an effect on the future of this country, abortion or obama/hitlerycare?



abortion or racial harmony?



abortion or immigration amnesty?
Just seems to me like throwing out the baby with the bathwater.



 
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What is the purpose of this thread? And the 87,000 previous generic abortion threads?
Are declared and/or potential republican candidates spending a lot of time on abortion and you're wondering why?
Or is it a desire to keep the abortion issue percolating?
What's the reason?
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What is the purpose of this thread? And the 87,000 previous generic abortion threads?
Are declared and/or potential republican candidates spending a lot of time on abortion and you're wondering why?
Or is it a desire to keep the abortion issue percolating?
What's the reason?

Libertardians wanna make sure the left wins.

All the while they will ignore that even Saint Paul opposes abortion.
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LIFE , LIBERTY, AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS....what is so damned hard to understand about that?
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Many elections have been lost by Republicans for this reason alone.
Many women agree with Republican ideals, except for this one issue.
That's a point of contention that they could leave alone and through other policies, let people change their own minds on later.
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There are a hell of a lot of women against tax payer funded abortion.
You have to be one sick bitch to rabidly fight for your "right" to butcher your unborn baby. It's a huge miscalculation to assume all women are like that.

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I grew up in "the hood" and had many friends.

If you wanna say that all N-----rs should be killed before they're born man up and say it.

It's pretty obvious that's exactly the disgusting shit you're spewing above.
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The Hood

The Hoooood

Sounds scary!
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I grew up in "the hood" and had many friends.

If you wanna say that all N-----rs should be killed before they're born man up and say it.

It's pretty obvious that's exactly the disgusting shit you're spewing above.
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You staunch anti abortion guys really ought to spend more time working in The Hood. You'll meet all kinds of democrats that could enlighten your thought processes.

I grew up in "the hood" and had many friends.

If you wanna say that all N-----rs should be killed before they're born man up and say it.

It's pretty obvious that's exactly the disgusting shit you're spewing above.

lol..some folks feel that membership to an online forum is much more important than carrying the courage of ones convictions.
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Let's expand that to Jews or any others you see as untermenschen and see how you like the sound of it.
It's murder and murder is wrong, that is why some of us care.

That's interesting, but for now lets just keep it about people that more of my tax money so they can give it to those that have no intention of working or paying taxes.
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My mother was almost forced by my father to abort me. They were heading to New York state where it was legal when she left him and came home.

I grew up in the hood and am a contributing member to society.

Your speculation as to who gets aborted is racist, ignorant bullshit.
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I think you are correct on this.

However I can't help but wonder what will have more of an effect on the future of this country, abortion or obama/hitlerycare?

abortion or racial harmony?

abortion or immigration amnesty?



Just seems to me like throwing out the baby with the bathwater.
 
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Maybe they believe that the abortion issue is more important than any other issue in America today.

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I think you are correct on this.

However I can't help but wonder what will have more of an effect on the future of this country, abortion or obama/hitlerycare?

abortion or racial harmony?

abortion or immigration amnesty?



Just seems to me like throwing out the baby with the bathwater.
 

It's nowhere near my number one issue and it's just the usual bullshit spewed by the leftists here to badmouth the GOP.

I will speak my mind when it comes up though.
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