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Posted: 3/27/2015 5:34:45 AM EDT
Hello ARFCOM
I am proud of Mother Russia.

Here is some armor porn


1. Main battle tank based on the "Armata" (unified heavily armored combat platform)

- Fully automated (remote controlled) unmanned turret with the latest 125 mm tank gun (better than L55 with new ammunition and longer penetrators). Ammunition types: KE, HE, cumulative, anti-tank missiles. There are indications that tank gun and autoloader can be replaced with 152mm gun.
- The crew in  armored capsule separated from ammunition and fuel.
- Armor and ERA plates of new generation
- AESA-radar(s) (in addition to optical/thermal imaging channels)
- Advanced electronics. Panoramic sight with "hunter-killer" mode, battle tactical control system etc
- New generation of the hard-kill active protection system "Afganit" (the principle of work similar to the Israeli "Trophy" APS)
- 1300 - 1500hp diesel engine
- Max speed is up to 90 kmph









2. Heavy IFV on Armata platform spotted:







3. First quality photo of the T-95 (Object 195) tank:

- Fully automated (remote controlled) unmanned turret with 152mm tank gun. Ammunition types: KE, HE, cumulative, anti-tank missiles, SAM missiles, tactical nuclear munition.
- The crew in  armored capsule(in hull) separated from ammunition and fuel.
- Armor and ERA plates of new generation
- Radar (in addition to optical/thermal imaging channels)
- Hard-kill active defense system
- 1300 - 1500hp diesel engine






Look at the T-95's turret:

-    152mm gun
-    30mm auxiliary automatic gun
-    Panoramic sight
-    Tank radar (supposedly)
-    Radars of the active protection system and its hard-kill units (mini-cannons).
-    Smoke grenade launchers (or aerosol charges launchers as a part of soft-kill active protection system, "Shtora" successor).


T-95 was rejected and replaced with unified combat platform "Armata"
Link Posted: 3/27/2015 5:38:27 AM EDT
[#1]
lol Russia.

Come talk to us when you have a professional NCO corp worth a shit, you have the ability to un-garrison your troops, and most importantly have the ability to project those troops both logistically and economically.

Until then, these are just more pop top tanks that Russia can deploy in fewer numbers.
Link Posted: 3/27/2015 5:42:02 AM EDT
[#2]
10 years from now pics will be floating around the net of fields full of these things rotting away somewhere in Russia.
Link Posted: 3/27/2015 5:46:56 AM EDT
[#3]
What happens when it throws a track? LOL.
Link Posted: 3/27/2015 5:48:49 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/27/2015 5:50:28 AM EDT
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Looks halfway there.  Why does every advancement of Soviet technology look like it is done at an abandoned strip mine?
Link Posted: 3/27/2015 5:55:15 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/27/2015 5:55:49 AM EDT
[#7]
Will you send me many pockages of glorious peoples' wood laminate stock sets?



I also require many pockages of glorious peoples' bakelite mags.


Edit: What the hell happened to the arfcom. Does someone drop acid into my orange juice?
Link Posted: 3/27/2015 5:56:47 AM EDT
[#8]
My ATGM sense is all tingly.
Link Posted: 3/27/2015 5:59:35 AM EDT
[#9]
Lol, let us know when your economy recovers and your have enough rubles to rub together to build more than 5 of those tanks.
Link Posted: 3/27/2015 6:01:01 AM EDT
[#10]
Nice Warthog bait.
Link Posted: 3/27/2015 6:01:53 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/27/2015 6:04:01 AM EDT
[#12]
I see that it's broken down already. Someone working on the t95. Lol
Link Posted: 3/27/2015 6:04:25 AM EDT
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lol Russia.

Come talk to us when you have a professional NCO corp worth a shit, you have the ability to un-garrison your troops, and most importantly have the ability to project those troops both logistically and economically.

Until then, these are just more pop top tanks that Russia can deploy in fewer numbers.
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Do you mean a modern day Russian army, its NCO corps, logistic abilities etc?

Russian army has the strongest ground forces in the world.
http://www.globalfirepower.com/country-military-strength-detail.asp?country_id=Russia
Link Posted: 3/27/2015 6:04:38 AM EDT
[#14]
Russia's military should stick to what it does best.  Sodomy and making music videos.

Link Posted: 3/27/2015 6:09:33 AM EDT
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Do you mean a modern day Russian army, its NCO corps, logistic abilities etc?

Russian army has the strongest ground forces in the world.
http://www.globalfirepower.com/country-military-strength-detail.asp?country_id=Russia
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lol Russia.

Come talk to us when you have a professional NCO corp worth a shit, you have the ability to un-garrison your troops, and most importantly have the ability to project those troops both logistically and economically.

Until then, these are just more pop top tanks that Russia can deploy in fewer numbers.


Do you mean a modern day Russian army, its NCO corps, logistic abilities etc?

Russian army has the strongest ground forces in the world.
http://www.globalfirepower.com/country-military-strength-detail.asp?country_id=Russia

lol
First off globalfirepower really, that's your source.

Second, do you know what a professional NCO corp is?

Third, Logistically the Russian's have proven just how inept they are at logistics in pretty much every conflict they have been in since the fall of communism and Russia's economy is circling the drain.

Having a bunch of rusting tanks and APC's does not make an army powerful.
Link Posted: 3/27/2015 6:12:01 AM EDT
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I like the sound of an unmanned turret with a separate armored crew capsule.

Here come the drone tanks in about ten more years.


Link Posted: 3/27/2015 6:13:58 AM EDT
[#17]
Quality over quantity. Us Number One.
Link Posted: 3/27/2015 6:14:59 AM EDT
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You need to settle on a single avatar.


Link Posted: 3/27/2015 6:15:37 AM EDT
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Do you mean a modern day Russian army, its NCO corps, logistic abilities etc?

Russian army has the strongest ground forces in the world.
http://www.globalfirepower.com/country-military-strength-detail.asp?country_id=Russia
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lol Russia.

Come talk to us when you have a professional NCO corp worth a shit, you have the ability to un-garrison your troops, and most importantly have the ability to project those troops both logistically and economically.

Until then, these are just more pop top tanks that Russia can deploy in fewer numbers.


Do you mean a modern day Russian army, its NCO corps, logistic abilities etc?

Russian army has the strongest ground forces in the world.
http://www.globalfirepower.com/country-military-strength-detail.asp?country_id=Russia

Just for that asinine statement, I wanna see the boys from 3ID put a hurting a Russian unit.
Link Posted: 3/27/2015 6:19:23 AM EDT
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Just for that asinine statement, I wanna see the boys from 3ID put a hurting a Russian unit.
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lol Russia.

Come talk to us when you have a professional NCO corp worth a shit, you have the ability to un-garrison your troops, and most importantly have the ability to project those troops both logistically and economically.

Until then, these are just more pop top tanks that Russia can deploy in fewer numbers.


Do you mean a modern day Russian army, its NCO corps, logistic abilities etc?

Russian army has the strongest ground forces in the world.
http://www.globalfirepower.com/country-military-strength-detail.asp?country_id=Russia

Just for that asinine statement, I wanna see the boys from 3ID put a hurting a Russian unit.

In a conventional fight our boys win hands down.  My fear is that the Russian's demand a dance off.  We might be in real trouble, especially with the Russian's superior track suits.
Link Posted: 3/27/2015 6:29:56 AM EDT
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Do you mean a modern day Russian army, its NCO corps, logistic abilities etc?

Russian army has the strongest ground forces in the world.
http://www.globalfirepower.com/country-military-strength-detail.asp?country_id=Russia
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lol Russia.

Come talk to us when you have a professional NCO corp worth a shit, you have the ability to un-garrison your troops, and most importantly have the ability to project those troops both logistically and economically.

Until then, these are just more pop top tanks that Russia can deploy in fewer numbers.


Do you mean a modern day Russian army, its NCO corps, logistic abilities etc?

Russian army has the strongest ground forces in the world.
http://www.globalfirepower.com/country-military-strength-detail.asp?country_id=Russia


Hey, bro, haters gonna hate.  There are Germans who still remember the outcome of The Great Patriotic War, while most Americans think we won the war singlehandedly by invading at Normandy.

Those are some interesting new armor.  I find the move to remotely operated turrets interesting. It seems like the idea is increased crew survivability, rather than reducing crew size by dumping the loader as was first done with the -72 (IIRC).

Got any more pictures of Russian gear?
Link Posted: 3/27/2015 6:30:41 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/27/2015 6:39:47 AM EDT
[#23]
"All Blue elements, this is Blue 1. Platoon volley on my mark...."
Link Posted: 3/27/2015 6:45:49 AM EDT
[#24]
Why does Russia think it can get into another arms race with the USA. When Russia's economy is collapsing. Belarus is demanding trade from Russia in USD instead of Rubles. And Russia is no where near as strong as the Soviet Union?
Link Posted: 3/27/2015 6:47:01 AM EDT
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First off globalfirepower really, that's your source.
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lol
First off globalfirepower really, that's your source.


What's wrong with globalfirepower?

Second, do you know what a professional NCO corp is? Third, Logistically the Russian's have proven just how inept they are at logistics in pretty much every conflict they have been in since the fall of communism


How you can estimate an modern-day Russian army objectively? Today's armed forces of Russian Federation havn't seen in a full action (with exception of a lot of training manoeuvres/exercises)
First Chechen campaign - the Army was nearly demolished during the Eltsin period.
Second Chechen campaign - the Army had a few of improvements (first NCO units get involved into operations in a big numbers etc.)
Russian-Georgian war (so called "pacification of Georgia" operation) - the reforms and modernization program had only began.
Civilian war in Ukraine - no direct intervention of Russian army.

and Russia's economy is circling the drain.


Russian economy is far from being in a poor(the worst) condition. One or two years from this time and it would be on a way of recovery and growth.

Having a bunch of rusting tanks and APC's does not make an army powerful.


Russia attemping to replace all "rusing" tanks and APCs with modern platforms.
Link Posted: 3/27/2015 6:48:20 AM EDT
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"Top speed of 90kmph"

Does the engine need a complete rebuild if it runs that speed for more than a minute?
Link Posted: 3/27/2015 6:49:45 AM EDT
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The Iraqis shot down 5 or 6 of those. I'm sure they'll do great in a less permissive environment.
Link Posted: 3/27/2015 6:53:11 AM EDT
[#28]
If you have to tell everyone how great and powerful you are,  then you're not great and powerful
Link Posted: 3/27/2015 6:56:05 AM EDT
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Hey, bro, haters gonna hate.  There are Germans who still remember the outcome of The Great Patriotic War, while most Americans think we won the war singlehandedly by invading at Normandy.

Those are some interesting new armor.  I find the move to remotely operated turrets interesting. It seems like the idea is increased crew survivability, rather than reducing crew size by dumping the loader as was first done with the -72 (IIRC).

Got any more pictures of Russian gear?
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lol Russia.

Come talk to us when you have a professional NCO corp worth a shit, you have the ability to un-garrison your troops, and most importantly have the ability to project those troops both logistically and economically.

Until then, these are just more pop top tanks that Russia can deploy in fewer numbers.


Do you mean a modern day Russian army, its NCO corps, logistic abilities etc?

Russian army has the strongest ground forces in the world.
http://www.globalfirepower.com/country-military-strength-detail.asp?country_id=Russia


Hey, bro, haters gonna hate.  There are Germans who still remember the outcome of The Great Patriotic War, while most Americans think we won the war singlehandedly by invading at Normandy.

Those are some interesting new armor.  I find the move to remotely operated turrets interesting. It seems like the idea is increased crew survivability, rather than reducing crew size by dumping the loader as was first done with the -72 (IIRC).

Got any more pictures of Russian gear?


OK, bro.

Here is Armata's MBT video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYhyzJ7jdGE

Armata's heavy IFV video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Bk-wgWOTiA

The last vehicle supposedly fitted with an "Afganit" active protection system .
Link Posted: 3/27/2015 7:03:34 AM EDT
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Wonder how they would fair in Afghanistan.
Link Posted: 3/27/2015 7:06:46 AM EDT
[#31]
Is this a primorsky thread?
Link Posted: 3/27/2015 7:07:31 AM EDT
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And they're incapable of either one.
Link Posted: 3/27/2015 7:09:06 AM EDT
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What's wrong with globalfirepower?



How you can estimate an modern-day Russian army objectively? Today's armed forces of Russian Federation havn't seen in a full action (with exception of a lot of training manoeuvres/exercises)
First Chechen campaign - the Army was nearly demolished during the Eltsin period.
Second Chechen campaign - the Army had a few of improvements (first NCO units get involved into operations in a big numbers etc.)
Russian-Georgian war (so called "pacification of Georgia" operation) - the reforms and modernization program had only began.
Civilian war in Ukraine - no direct intervention of Russian army.



Russian economy is far from being in a poor(the worst) condition. One or two years from this time and it would be on a way of recovery and growth.



Russia attemping to replace all "rusing" tanks and APCs with modern platforms.
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lol
First off globalfirepower really, that's your source.


What's wrong with globalfirepower?

Second, do you know what a professional NCO corp is? Third, Logistically the Russian's have proven just how inept they are at logistics in pretty much every conflict they have been in since the fall of communism


How you can estimate an modern-day Russian army objectively? Today's armed forces of Russian Federation havn't seen in a full action (with exception of a lot of training manoeuvres/exercises)
First Chechen campaign - the Army was nearly demolished during the Eltsin period.
Second Chechen campaign - the Army had a few of improvements (first NCO units get involved into operations in a big numbers etc.)
Russian-Georgian war (so called "pacification of Georgia" operation) - the reforms and modernization program had only began.
Civilian war in Ukraine - no direct intervention of Russian army.

and Russia's economy is circling the drain.


Russian economy is far from being in a poor(the worst) condition. One or two years from this time and it would be on a way of recovery and growth.

Having a bunch of rusting tanks and APC's does not make an army powerful.


Russia attemping to replace all "rusing" tanks and APCs with modern platforms.

Global firepower has been inaccurate for sometime and does not take into account things like mothballed hardware.

You don't know what an NCO corp is, go look it and come back.

So you think Russia has stepped up it's military abilities to a modern level in 7 years?  Okay...given the state of the Russian economy how do you think that has been possible?'

Russia's economy is dependent on fossil fuels...good luck with that.

Attempting to replace is a cute concept...call us when they actually have modern gear in place and in deployable conditions.

If you think Russian units have not had direct action in The Ukraine...you will believe anything.
Link Posted: 3/27/2015 7:13:45 AM EDT
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I like the sound of an unmanned turret with a separate armored crew capsule.

Here come the drone tanks in about ten more years.


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I like the sound of an unmanned turret with a separate armored crew capsule.

Here come the drone tanks in about ten more years.




The Armata platform was designed with a total automation in mind.




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Nice Warthog bait.



The Iraqis shot down 5 or 6 of those. I'm sure they'll do great in a less permissive environment.



I guess how a tank radars would deal with air threats. There are rumors that T-95 MBT had modified 9M311 SAM missiles in its armament (in autoloader's carousel)
Link Posted: 3/27/2015 7:14:10 AM EDT
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I like the sound of an unmanned turret with a separate armored crew capsule.

Here come the drone tanks in about ten more years.


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You are correct, first "optionally manned" and then fully autonomous tanks are definitely coming.
Link Posted: 3/27/2015 7:15:33 AM EDT
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Our little Putin on a ritz awakes!

I hope they at least double your vodka ration comrade!
Link Posted: 3/27/2015 7:16:53 AM EDT
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In for the LULZ
Link Posted: 3/27/2015 7:17:04 AM EDT
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Holy smokes this is andy/vito had a baby with Baghdad bob and they birthed the new spokesguy for Russia.

Cilivian war in Ukraine with no Russian involvement.

Really?

Lots of funerals for russian soldiers that they're having trouble explaining away.  some patriotic families who remember how it was are playing ball, but some are starting to make noise

Every time some new t72 bolt on Lego kit comes its:
Rooshan tank kooood be best tank ven it works.
(That's not a grammer error.
It's singular.)
Link Posted: 3/27/2015 7:20:15 AM EDT
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The Iraqis shot down 5 or 6 of those. I'm sure they'll do great in a less permissive environment.
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Nice Warthog bait.



The Iraqis shot down 5 or 6 of those. I'm sure they'll do great in a less permissive environment.


Yeah, the airspace over a Republican Guard Division was "permissive."

Link Posted: 3/27/2015 7:20:20 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/27/2015 7:22:41 AM EDT
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Gas was under $2.00 yesterday.
Link Posted: 3/27/2015 7:24:03 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/27/2015 7:25:33 AM EDT
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Global firepower has been inaccurate for sometime and does not take into account things like mothballed hardware.

You don't know what an NCO corp is, go look it and come back.

So you think Russia has stepped up it's military abilities to a modern level in 7 years?  Okay...given the state of the Russian economy how do you think that has been possible?'

Russia's economy is dependent on fossil fuels...good luck with that.

Attempting to replace is a cute concept...call us when they actually have modern gear in place and in deployable conditions.

If you think Russian units have not had direct action in The Ukraine...you will believe anything.
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What's wrong with globalfirepower?

Second, do you know what a professional NCO corp is? Third, Logistically the Russian's have proven just how inept they are at logistics in pretty much every conflict they have been in since the fall of communism


How you can estimate an modern-day Russian army objectively? Today's armed forces of Russian Federation havn't seen in a full action (with exception of a lot of training manoeuvres/exercises)
First Chechen campaign - the Army was nearly demolished during the Eltsin period.
Second Chechen campaign - the Army had a few of improvements (first NCO units get involved into operations in a big numbers etc.)
Russian-Georgian war (so called "pacification of Georgia" operation) - the reforms and modernization program had only began.
Civilian war in Ukraine - no direct intervention of Russian army.



Russian economy is far from being in a poor(the worst) condition. One or two years from this time and it would be on a way of recovery and growth.

Having a bunch of rusting tanks and APC's does not make an army powerful.


Russia attemping to replace all "rusing" tanks and APCs with modern platforms.

Global firepower has been inaccurate for sometime and does not take into account things like mothballed hardware.

You don't know what an NCO corp is, go look it and come back.

So you think Russia has stepped up it's military abilities to a modern level in 7 years?  Okay...given the state of the Russian economy how do you think that has been possible?'

Russia's economy is dependent on fossil fuels...good luck with that.

Attempting to replace is a cute concept...call us when they actually have modern gear in place and in deployable conditions.

If you think Russian units have not had direct action in The Ukraine...you will believe anything.


Give it time, shortly after the Georgian-Russian war no russky would admit it was a war and in his post he admitted it. He just needs a few more years to admit Russia's involvement in the Ukraine.
Link Posted: 3/27/2015 7:28:54 AM EDT
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Man, new tanks and socks?

The Russian Soldier is getting spoiled.
Link Posted: 3/27/2015 7:31:58 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/27/2015 7:32:42 AM EDT
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Fantasy land.
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Looks halfway there.  Why does every advancement of Soviet technology look like it is done at an abandoned radioactive strip mine?
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10 years from now pics will be floating around the net of fields full of these things rotting away somewhere in Russia.



Looks halfway there.  Why does every advancement of Soviet technology look like it is done at an abandoned radioactive strip mine?



Link Posted: 3/27/2015 7:38:10 AM EDT
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"We, like put a big piece of pipe over the main gun, they think its like a 160mm or something; scares the crap out of the Krauts".
Link Posted: 3/27/2015 7:52:50 AM EDT
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The Iraqis shot down 5 or 6 of those. I'm sure they'll do great in a less permissive environment.
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Nice Warthog bait.



The Iraqis shot down 5 or 6 of those. I'm sure they'll do great in a less permissive environment.



OMG...the horror...a combat aircraft was shot down in combat...

Its like the pilots are expected to take casualties just like everyone else....

The horror...

Link Posted: 3/27/2015 8:03:27 AM EDT
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Making it a considerably larger target is placing a lot of faith in its APS.

I guess they'll try selling them to India and China and will maybe be able to afford about as many Su-34s they have flying. The Russian fantasy is the Soviet army of 1977 equipped with these things: ain't happening.


 The US did a study in the early 80s that added an additional crewman just for maintenance,radio watch,security,ammo handling etc that concluded a 5th crewman made M60s and M1s more effective.2 man crew leads to many negatives. I guess their plan is 2 other tanks stop whenever 1 throws a track and never being somewhere relying upon human eyes is important.
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