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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:08:40 AM EDT
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Nothing wrong with an AR10.
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:08:58 AM EDT
[#2]
Armalite DEF10. Use your remaining money to buy mags and ammo.
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:09:22 AM EDT
[#3]
Isn't there some issue with them shaking optics to death?
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:10:16 AM EDT
[#4]
When you pull a thingy called a trigger it'll go bang.
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:14:01 AM EDT
[#5]
I hear that it's one of the lightest weigh and lightest recoiling 7.62 "battle rifles" on the market. Also read about them being hard on optics. Haven't had any experience with one.
I'm already into .308 Ar's so I don't want to add different, more expensive mags into the mix. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:17:19 AM EDT
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Isn't there some issue with them shaking optics to death? I remember hearing something about this too. Is this just with cheap optics, or will it tear up an ACOG or ELCAN? |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:17:26 AM EDT
[#7]
Still wish there was a .30-06 AR on the market.
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:21:36 AM EDT
[#8]
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I remember hearing something about this too. Is this just with cheap optics, or will it tear up an ACOG or ELCAN? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Isn't there some issue with them shaking optics to death? I remember hearing something about this too. Is this just with cheap optics, or will it tear up an ACOG or ELCAN? I only have around 1k rounds through mine, but my ACOG has held up to it. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:21:44 AM EDT
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I currently own three .308 "Battle Rifles"; an OBR, an SR25 ECC, and a Scar17. With that said, I absolutely love mine.
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:21:48 AM EDT
[#10]
They are really light, have a pretty good reliability record, fold, and come in cool colors.
That's about all I know. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:23:51 AM EDT
[#11]
Very pleased with mine. I have a Aimpoint m4s on it.
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:25:12 AM EDT
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In before someone bitches about the SOCOM mandated reciprocating charging handle/forward assist. As if FNH forgot how to engineer a non reciprocating charging handle hur dur!
I really like mine. The greatest issue is the cost of the proprietary mags imo. No problems with damaged optics here (Aimpoint). |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:28:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Still wish there was a .30-06 AR on the market. Found something better.   |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:28:51 AM EDT
[#14]
Sold my AR platform 308 for one. I only have 60 rounds through it. Got the FDE. Also got sucked in by the prior promotional package with free magazines that I'm still waiting for........
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:40:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Isn't there some issue with them shaking optics to death? I've read they can eat cheap optics. Why does this rifle do that is their some crazy harmonics traveling through that gun? Does the buffer system work well in it? |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:58:07 AM EDT
[#16]
It's pretty operator
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Posted: 3/4/2015 3:33:21 AM EDT
[#17]
Handles really nice, lightweight and controls are where you expect them to be. Muzzle break slams you with a concussion shock wave and the trigger sucks.
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Posted: 3/4/2015 3:47:02 AM EDT
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Nothing wrong with an AR10. What does a scar or ar10 do that a fal doesn't? Well, other than break your wallet. lol |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 3:48:20 AM EDT
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Sold my AR platform 308 for one. I only have 60 rounds through it. Got the FDE. Also got sucked in by the prior promotional package with free magazines that I'm still waiting for........ Platform lol sorry |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 4:00:45 AM EDT
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Still wish there was a .30-06 AR on the market. I think there is one coming soon. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 4:09:19 AM EDT
[#21]
about 2k rounds through mine with Acog that hasnt died. The rifle has a way of shaking mounts lose if you dont locktite and decently clamp down. (no issues since doing that) light as hell on weight and recoil for 308 and IMHO the best platform out there. I am waiting to see how that CZ Bren shapes up though.
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Posted: 3/4/2015 4:23:10 AM EDT
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I currently own three .308 "Battle Rifles"; an OBR, an SR25 ECC, and a Scar17. With that said, I absolutely love mine. Can you compare the accuracy of the KAC to the Scar? Own and love my Scar... But I'm wondering if the SR25 is accurate enough to replace my bolt .308 for precision rifle use. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 4:31:53 AM EDT
[#23]
According to the people who were issued them that post on ARF, they suck.
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Posted: 3/4/2015 4:37:31 AM EDT
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What does a scar or ar10 do that a fal doesn't? Well, other than break your wallet. lol Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Nothing wrong with an AR10. What does a scar or ar10 do that a fal doesn't? Well, other than break your wallet. lol Accuracy of the FAL does not compare to that of a SCAR or AR10....not even close. The latter are also much easier to mount a scope, have better ergonomics, are lighter, etc. The FAL and M1A are fine for collectors, but for a shooter, there are better choices now. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 4:40:45 AM EDT
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Can you compare the accuracy of the KAC to the Scar? Own and love my Scar... But I'm wondering if the SR25 is accurate enough to replace my bolt .308 for precision rifle use. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I currently own three .308 "Battle Rifles"; an OBR, an SR25 ECC, and a Scar17. With that said, I absolutely love mine. Can you compare the accuracy of the KAC to the Scar? Own and love my Scar... But I'm wondering if the SR25 is accurate enough to replace my bolt .308 for precision rifle use. That really depends on what your accuracy requirement is; you didn't say. If you are comparing that SR25 against a really high-end custom bolt rifle, then no, it's not going to be quite as accurate. If you are comparing it to an "off the rack" Rem 700, then yeah, it can be pretty close. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 4:54:48 AM EDT
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I love mine. Have a Leupold Mark 6 1-6 on it. No issues. Stock trigger sucks, I replaced mine with a Geissele. I took it deer hunting this year and shot a buck at over 160 yards. I'd recommend one!
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Posted: 3/4/2015 5:13:57 AM EDT
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I like mine. I was lucky enough to get it 20% off at a Black Friday sale just before Sandy Hook. I took off the muzzle brake for a suppressor mount. I've shot .75" five shot groups with it stock using match ammo. At some point I'll get around to changing the trigger. It does have one of the Handl Defense lowers now so it'll shoot P-mags which is awesome. I'm debating about buying 13" bbl for it since they are now available for public consumption. We'll see.
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Posted: 3/4/2015 5:42:48 AM EDT
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Found something better.
http://wwiiairsoftreenactorsofmichigan.yolasite.com/resources/VFC-AEG-BAR-M1918A2-STD-AG-1_01.jpg?timestamp=1315427880436 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Still wish there was a .30-06 AR on the market. Found something better.
http://wwiiairsoftreenactorsofmichigan.yolasite.com/resources/VFC-AEG-BAR-M1918A2-STD-AG-1_01.jpg?timestamp=1315427880436 You ever hold one? Have an OOW model. 20 pounds of hog. Barely any recoil, but that bitch is heavy. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 6:05:58 AM EDT
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Ask yourself why you want a .308 rifle.
If it's to reach out and thump stuff, then ask yourself why you would want to hobble yourself with a 16" barrel and pay out your nose for it. If you just want a toy that gives you range swag, fireballs, and loud noise, then by all means, go for it. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 6:29:52 AM EDT
[#30]
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Ask yourself why you want a .308 rifle. If it's to reach out and thump stuff, then ask yourself why you would want to hobble yourself with a 16" barrel and pay out your nose for it. If you just want a toy that gives you range swag, fireballs, and loud noise, then by all means, go for it. Que? 
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Posted: 3/4/2015 6:52:05 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Que? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ask yourself why you want a .308 rifle. If it's to reach out and thump stuff, then ask yourself why you would want to hobble yourself with a 16" barrel and pay out your nose for it. If you just want a toy that gives you range swag, fireballs, and loud noise, then by all means, go for it. Que? Short barrels on 308 rifles suck, because then you are basically shooting an AK round but with 308 weight to it. But to be honest Larry Vickers says dont go short than 16" |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 7:49:26 AM EDT
[#32]
I've used one quite a bit. It's a very nice rifle. Light, comfortable, low recoil, good aftermarket support.
But for the price they want, they are out of their loopy Belgian minds
At $1,500 it would rule the market, but at $2,500+ there are way better options. It's not any more accurate than an AR pattern 7.62. Spare barrels are almost $1,000 . There is a documented occurrence of it breaking high end optics, in a relatively short timeframe, due to the recoil impulse. The stock is kind of shitty, I managed to break mine while doing a ruck run and stress shoot event.
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Posted: 3/4/2015 8:06:20 AM EDT
[#33]
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Short barrels on 308 rifles suck, because then you are basically shooting an AK round but with 308 weight to it. But to be honest Larry Vickers says dont go short than 16" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ask yourself why you want a .308 rifle. If it's to reach out and thump stuff, then ask yourself why you would want to hobble yourself with a 16" barrel and pay out your nose for it. If you just want a toy that gives you range swag, fireballs, and loud noise, then by all means, go for it. Que? Short barrels on 308 rifles suck, because then you are basically shooting an AK round but with 308 weight to it. But to be honest Larry Vickers says dont go short than 16" It wouldn't be so bad if they'd used a 1:10" twist so heavier rounds could be used, but 1"12" hamstrings it in my opinion for a 16" barrel. That said, I can do 1 MOA with 168 gr HPBT all day which is twice the accuracy of my old FN FAL with less weight and a better trigger (now that I have the Geissele in it...) I will be buying a 20" heavy profile 1:10 twist barrel when available. Still kicking myself for not buying that demo Desert Hi-Dog match SS barrel I saw on GB for $1k back in early 2013... |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 8:18:16 AM EDT
[#34]
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What does a scar or ar10 do that a fal doesn't? Well, other than break your wallet. lol Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Nothing wrong with an AR10. What does a scar or ar10 do that a fal doesn't? Well, other than break your wallet. lol My best FAL shoots 2MOA with 155gr Hornady Steel Match. My Scar 17 shoots 1/2 MOA with the same ammo. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 8:18:18 AM EDT
[#35]
I had 2 AR10's before I got my first Scar 17. I now had 2 17's and 1 AR10.
Most of the haters dont have one and have never shot them. I expected more out of the trigger, but through some Giselle triggers in and now the rifle are fantastic!! |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 8:19:50 AM EDT
[#36]
If I was going to spend that much on a .308, I would definitely take a close look at LMT's offering. I have read nothing but great things about those .Besides, I have 4 of the 5.56 LMT's.
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Posted: 3/4/2015 8:23:11 AM EDT
[#37]
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I only have around 1k rounds through mine, but my ACOG has held up to it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Isn't there some issue with them shaking optics to death? I remember hearing something about this too. Is this just with cheap optics, or will it tear up an ACOG or ELCAN? I only have around 1k rounds through mine, but my ACOG has held up to it. My TA31, Aimpoint Micro, and Eotech 512 all had problems with the SCAR 17. My Vortex Razor has not. Ive read that several manufacturers had to harden their scopes for the 17. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 8:24:47 AM EDT
[#38]
I like mine. Not substantially better than an AR-10, but a bit lighter and Whippier. The mag, lower, and optics issues are real, but not something that either more money or patience won't fix. With more AR-10 options on the market in the market like the Colt, I don't see much reason one can argue for the SCAR-17 these days unless you just want it, which should be reason enough.
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Posted: 3/4/2015 10:03:05 AM EDT
[#39]
Scar 17 is the best battle rifle ever made
Reliable Accurate Light weight Ergonomic Easy and fast to clean Folding stock - if you're inside a car ----- Hk-91 not ergonomic FAL not accurate Ar-10 doesn't fold (slightly less reliable ) Next .....:) |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 10:05:18 AM EDT
[#40]
Thanks for all of the good info. I think I've picked my next rifle. Now I just have to figure out a way to pay for it
. Might take a little saving for a while....
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Posted: 3/4/2015 10:30:49 AM EDT
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Flame suit on.
At the first Crimson Trace midnight 3 gun, FN brought a full auto SCAR as a stage gun. When we went to rotate in to that stage, the gun was down for repair so we got diverted. After a few hours' work they could not get it running again and simply cancelled that stage. Meanwhile a full auto PWS ran like a raped ape in the shoot house stage, 60 rounds full auto for each shooter, 10 shooters per squad, at least 10 squads plus press, VIP, etc. The FN-supplied SAW ran, but only 10 rounds per shooter. The SCAR did not return for the next year's match, or the next. That episode pretty much cured me of SCAR fever, which I had real bad. Go ahead, bring out the torches and pitchforks. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 10:33:12 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If it's to reach out and thump stuff, then ask yourself why you would want to hobble yourself with a 16" barrel and pay out your nose for it. Its easy to shoot out to 1000m with a 16in 308. New mil semi auto 308s both went in the 16 direction. |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 10:33:54 AM EDT
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I really like mine.  |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 10:52:11 AM EDT
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Still wish there was a .30-06 AR on the market. Found something better.
http://wwiiairsoftreenactorsofmichigan.yolasite.com/resources/VFC-AEG-BAR-M1918A2-STD-AG-1_01.jpg?timestamp=1315427880436 You ever hold one? Have an OOW model. 20 pounds of hog. Barely any recoil, but that bitch is heavy. 
HCAR FTMFW!!! 
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Posted: 3/4/2015 10:58:22 AM EDT
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MK20 SSR is supposed to be released soon
I saw a guy selling 5 NIB FDE Scar 17 mags at a gun show a couple years ago for $70 for all of them. I would have FO'd like a hobo on a ham sammich...only if I had a Scar 17... |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 1:10:56 PM EDT
[#46]
I've been lusting after one for quite some time. It's 2nd on my buy list after I buy a CMP Garand.
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Posted: 3/4/2015 1:14:30 PM EDT
[#47]
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Nothing wrong with an AR10. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Nothing wrong with an AR10. Nothing wrong with an AR10, but if it's at a similar price point I'd go with the SCAR. Quoted:
What does a scar or ar10 do that a fal doesn't? Well, other than break your wallet. lol 
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Posted: 3/4/2015 1:17:46 PM EDT
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Still wish there was a .30-06 AR on the market. I think a company called Nemo Arms (or something like that) makes one I believe. It is either. 30-06 or 300WinMag..i don't remember. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 3/4/2015 1:20:23 PM EDT
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I really wanted one until I shot a friend's awhile ago. Not that it is a bad rifle, I guess it just didn't live up to the hype IMO.
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Posted: 3/4/2015 1:21:47 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Found something better. http://wwiiairsoftreenactorsofmichigan.yolasite.com/resources/VFC-AEG-BAR-M1918A2-STD-AG-1_01.jpg?timestamp=1315427880436 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Still wish there was a .30-06 AR on the market. Found something better. http://wwiiairsoftreenactorsofmichigan.yolasite.com/resources/VFC-AEG-BAR-M1918A2-STD-AG-1_01.jpg?timestamp=1315427880436 |
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