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Posted: 2/1/2015 5:32:49 PM EDT
Mitt Romney’s decision to forgo a third try at the White House has settled the question of whether the 2016 GOP presidential field has a front-runner — bestowing a coveted status on former Florida governor Jeb Bush that also raises new challenges and perils. Republicans have a tradition of picking an anointed one early. That establishment candidate almost always ends up with the nomination, although not without a fight and some speed bumps along the way. But this is a particularly unsettled time for the party. It is struggling to define its identity amid open warfare among its various factions. And there are a raft of fresh and potentially appealing faces emerging on the scene, comprising what many Republicans believe could be the strongest undercard of early-bout contenders in decades. Losing Romney as a rival is “a mixed bag for Bush,” said veteran GOP strategist Saul Anuzis, a former chairman of the Michigan Republican party. “He also becomes the target of everyone who is anti-establishment. Before, you had Romney and Bush kind of splitting up that ire.” Bush was already assembling a formidable army of fundraisers and talented operatives, including poaching Romney’s top Iowa strategist, David Kochel, to be his national campaign manager. http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/jeb-bush-has-become-the-gop-front-runner-for-2016--so-now-what/2015/01/31/0105ca68-a96e-11e4-a06b-9df2002b86a0_story.html |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 5:34:40 PM EDT
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no fucking way. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 5:35:39 PM EDT
[#2]
ugh....please no.
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Posted: 2/1/2015 5:36:30 PM EDT
[#3]
Fat Bastard and Sanatorium are the only two non-starters for me. I'd just show-up and vote the down ticket. Fuck those two fools.
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Posted: 2/1/2015 5:36:54 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/1/2015 5:37:10 PM EDT
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In what fucking world do they think putting the name Bush on a ballot is a good idea? I don't care how good he may or may not be, that name is election poison.
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Posted: 2/1/2015 5:38:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/1/2015 5:38:43 PM EDT
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In what fucking world do they think putting the name Bush on a ballot is a good idea? I don't care how good he may or may not be, that name is election poison. I don't get it either. Bush left office with a 20% approval rating. The name is toxic. I can't see anyone getting excited over a Bush campaign. It's almost like they are purposely trying to lose |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 5:39:42 PM EDT
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OH GOODY, the best we can look forward to then is which ever fucking shit eating commie the crazy asshole democrats put forward.
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Posted: 2/1/2015 5:40:18 PM EDT
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Republican party is becoming as useful "running for president" as officials at a Patriots game.
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Posted: 2/1/2015 5:40:21 PM EDT
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He is not the front runner and what makes you think he is?
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Posted: 2/1/2015 5:40:47 PM EDT
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See my recent post on King, Peter. This also applies to Santorum, Christie, Huckabee, etc. I will support Walker, Paul, maybe Cruz or Rubio. The bible thumpers need to get the hell out of politics. The mainstream Republican Party has become a pro-life, anti-gay version of the Democrats. Although I agree with them on those issues, it is so far down the list of the shit I care about it is inconsequentual. Keep voting for big government, more FSA, I start voting 3rd party.
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Posted: 2/1/2015 5:41:00 PM EDT
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I don't get it either. Bush left office with a 20% approval rating. The name is toxic. I can't see anyone getting excited over a Bush campaign. It's almost like they are purposely trying to lose Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In what fucking world do they think putting the name Bush on a ballot is a good idea? I don't care how good he may or may not be, that name is election poison. I don't get it either. Bush left office with a 20% approval rating. The name is toxic. I can't see anyone getting excited over a Bush campaign. It's almost like they are purposely trying to lose Trust in the RINO party, er,........I mean Republican Party, they know what is good for you, they know how to govern........... |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 5:41:18 PM EDT
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I don't get it either. Bush left office with a 20% approval rating. The name is toxic. I can't see anyone getting excited over a Bush campaign. It's almost like they are purposely trying to lose Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In what fucking world do they think putting the name Bush on a ballot is a good idea? I don't care how good he may or may not be, that name is election poison. I don't get it either. Bush left office with a 20% approval rating. The name is toxic. I can't see anyone getting excited over a Bush campaign. It's almost like they are purposely trying to lose +1 Sure, I'll vote for him in the general against a Democrat. But not all Republicans dill do so. He will be bludgeoned to death with George Bush's record. Case closed. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 5:41:30 PM EDT
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There is no way the general population will vote in a Bush again, not for several decades at least. The MSM has made sure of that.
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Posted: 2/1/2015 5:41:54 PM EDT
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See my recent post on King, Peter. This also applies to Santorum, Christie, Huckabee, etc. I will support Walker, Paul, maybe Cruz or Rubio. The bible thumpers need to get the hell out of politics. The mainstream Republican Party has become a pro-life, anti-gay version of the Democrats. Although I agree with them on those issues, it is so far down the list of the shit I care about it is inconsequentual. Keep voting for big government, more FSA, I start voting 3rd party. Walker, Paul and Cruz are pro life too 
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Posted: 2/1/2015 5:42:19 PM EDT
[#16]
Nope.
If he wins the Presidency than we will have a revamp of our H1B Visa program that will allow a HUGE number of foreigners from India, Pakistan, and so forth into the country. Those people will cause a serious decrease in salaries for white collar jobs especially in the IT and Health sectors. The Republican motivation for immigration reform doesn't come from a desire to simply appease Mexicans, but to work in changes that would allow immigration into the USA of a massive number of people in order to push labor costs down across the board. If you like crony capitalism. If you think destroying the middle class completely is a good idea. Well, than Jeb is your man, but he's not mine. I'll vote third party. If the Republican candidate for Senate and the House in my district associated with Jeb or endorses him I will vote against them as well and go third party. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 5:43:00 PM EDT
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See what's happening here, by publishing articles like this, the Washington Compost is dictating the narrative. They would love nothing more than another Bush nomination. If that happens, it's FO time IMHO.
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Posted: 2/1/2015 5:43:50 PM EDT
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Of course he is........It's either Clinton's wife or GW's Brother...... pretty sad if ask me. I don't think anyone wants the job.
Oh and....Fuck Hillary with the broomstick she rode in on. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 5:44:56 PM EDT
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I said it the other thread
The GOP line-up reads like no, nope, fuck no, screw that, and no way.
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Posted: 2/1/2015 5:45:21 PM EDT
[#20]
Sarvis 2016!!
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Posted: 2/1/2015 5:45:32 PM EDT
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Well... It is better news than Chris Christie emerging as a "front runner."
If you were to believe the doom-and-gloom third-party folks on arfcom, It was going to be Chris Christie by a country-mile at this point...  
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Posted: 2/1/2015 5:46:12 PM EDT
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See what's happening here, by publishing articles like this, the Washington Compost is dictating the narrative. They would love nothing more than another Bush nomination. If that happens, it's FO time IMHO. If its Bush vs Clinton, nobody will be happy That said I have seen nowhere where Bush as officially declared he is running |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 5:46:58 PM EDT
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See my recent post on King, Peter. This also applies to Santorum, Christie, Huckabee, etc. I will support Walker, Paul, maybe Cruz or Rubio. The bible thumpers need to get the hell out of politics. The mainstream Republican Party has become a pro-life, anti-gay version of the Democrats. Although I agree with them on those issues, it is so far down the list of the shit I care about it is inconsequentual. Keep voting for big government, more FSA, I start voting 3rd party. That's the thing though if Republicans stop being pro-Religion and "socially" conservative all those religious folks would go Democrat, because the only motivation they have to vote Republican is to oppose abortion and gay marriage. Most Christians would favor redistribution of wealth through socialism. For example, the Catholic Church and its Pope are constantly advocating in favor of wealth redistribution. You people have to understand that those who are sophisticated enough to understand economic, foreign, and national security policies are an inconsequential minority. The majority of the American people are idiots and you've got to give them red meat to motivate them. That red meat is never going to be the deficit or the national debt, because by and large most Americans don't understand any of that at all. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 5:49:05 PM EDT
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No more dynastes. 370 million of us here in the United States the same three families can not rule us like kings.
I would prefer the somewhat slow guy who cleans the offices late at night over any dynasty dude/dudette. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 5:49:53 PM EDT
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In what fucking world do they think putting the name Bush on a ballot is a good idea? I don't care how good he may or may not be, that name is election poison. Because all those democrats are eager to vote for a Republican, only, it has to be someone other than a bush? |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 5:51:31 PM EDT
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Because all those democrats are eager to vote for a Republican, only, it has to be someone other than a bush? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In what fucking world do they think putting the name Bush on a ballot is a good idea? I don't care how good he may or may not be, that name is election poison. Because all those democrats are eager to vote for a Republican, only, it has to be someone other than a bush? Exactly. You are going to lose any Democrats and most independents. Bye bye election. They're getting pretty good at losing. 
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Posted: 2/1/2015 5:52:23 PM EDT
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Emerging or being pushed.
Lucy is holding the football. Go ahead, kick it. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 5:52:31 PM EDT
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Here we do again.
Another "xxxxx is the GOP frontrunner" blah blah blah so the libertardians can jack off all over themselves when they wouldn't vote R no matter what. 
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Posted: 2/1/2015 5:53:32 PM EDT
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Something is very broken. We keep electing people from the same pool of oligarchs and political elite, and expect something to change. The sad truth is he who raises the most campaign funds from large corporate sponsors, and wealthy elite will win the nomination. Unfortunately, there are people and organizations which have much deeper pockets than you. You're contribution of a few hundred dollars is chump change, you can't expect to get what you want without paying for it. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 5:55:12 PM EDT
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I don't get it either. Bush left office with a 20% approval rating. The name is toxic. I can't see anyone getting excited over a Bush campaign. It's almost like they are purposely trying to lose Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In what fucking world do they think putting the name Bush on a ballot is a good idea? I don't care how good he may or may not be, that name is election poison. I don't get it either. Bush left office with a 20% approval rating. The name is toxic. I can't see anyone getting excited over a Bush campaign. It's almost like they are purposely trying to lose That approval rating has gone up a bit since then but I'll bet that makes no difference to you probably. 
Not saying George was the greatest, just saying that your 20% crap is old news and a bit missleading these days based on his leaving office precisely at the time when the peak of the melt down was happening, much of which was not actually his fault. (Barney's Housing program) I don't love the idea of running another Bush either. He will have to overcome a lot of baggage and media BS. Romney may have been a better centrist candidate to run because of this. That said, I would vote for almost anyone over Hilary / Warren. Walker would be my choice based on who I think is running. Just can't get into Cruz though I would vote for him if that was the choice we got stuck with. Paul would be a little better but still, both of them will get destroyed by the MSM IMO. Better for them to stay were they are and come around some other time maybe. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 5:56:24 PM EDT
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Certain media outlets would like Jeb to be the GOP nominee because he will be easy to destroy during the general election. Just like they served up McCain in 2008 with positive articles during the run off.
Once he was the nominee, they started printing what they really thought of him. Remember the article that talked about him not having an email account? |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 5:57:15 PM EDT
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We are a year away from primaries and these clown at the Washington Post already have it decided, and apparently some robots do here too. We haven't had any debates yet, no commercials, and few serious campaign trips.
Does anyone ever consider that you are falling into the dems trap? The post sure isn't a conservative leaning paper. As long as state committees aren't dumb enough to allow open primaries next time (and that is mostly how mccain stayed viable long enough to win, by open primaries in early states like the carolinas, plus some shennaingans between him and huckabee in WV to knock out romney), its all too early to tell. Same with hillary. How well will a stroke victim perform in debates? She doesn't make many open appearances lately. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 5:57:19 PM EDT
[#33]
It's an act of love to spread disease to your childern.
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Posted: 2/1/2015 5:57:45 PM EDT
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That's the thing though if Republicans stop being pro-Religion and "socially" conservative all those religious folks would go Democrat, because the only motivation they have to vote Republican is to oppose abortion and gay marriage. Most Christians would favor redistribution of wealth through socialism. For example, the Catholic Church and its Pope are constantly advocating in favor of wealth redistribution. You people have to understand that those who are sophisticated enough to understand economic, foreign, and national security policies are an inconsequential minority. The majority of the American people are idiots and you've got to give them red meat to motivate them. That red meat is never going to be the deficit or the national debt, because by and large most Americans don't understand any of that at all. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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See my recent post on King, Peter. This also applies to Santorum, Christie, Huckabee, etc. I will support Walker, Paul, maybe Cruz or Rubio. The bible thumpers need to get the hell out of politics. The mainstream Republican Party has become a pro-life, anti-gay version of the Democrats. Although I agree with them on those issues, it is so far down the list of the shit I care about it is inconsequentual. Keep voting for big government, more FSA, I start voting 3rd party. That's the thing though if Republicans stop being pro-Religion and "socially" conservative all those religious folks would go Democrat, because the only motivation they have to vote Republican is to oppose abortion and gay marriage. Most Christians would favor redistribution of wealth through socialism. For example, the Catholic Church and its Pope are constantly advocating in favor of wealth redistribution. You people have to understand that those who are sophisticated enough to understand economic, foreign, and national security policies are an inconsequential minority. The majority of the American people are idiots and you've got to give them red meat to motivate them. That red meat is never going to be the deficit or the national debt, because by and large most Americans don't understand any of that at all. Nice. You managed to label Christians both "socialists" and "not sophisticated enough to understand real issues." Would you like to add "bigots" for the trifecta?
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Posted: 2/1/2015 5:58:13 PM EDT
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Better than Hillary.
Better than Christie. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 5:58:19 PM EDT
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That's the thing though if Republicans stop being pro-Religion and "socially" conservative all those religious folks would go Democrat, because the only motivation they have to vote Republican is to oppose abortion and gay marriage. Most Christians would favor redistribution of wealth through socialism. For example, the Catholic Church and its Pope are constantly advocating in favor of wealth redistribution. You people have to understand that those who are sophisticated enough to understand economic, foreign, and national security policies are an inconsequential minority. The majority of the American people are idiots and you've got to give them red meat to motivate them. That red meat is never going to be the deficit or the national debt, because by and large most Americans don't understand any of that at all. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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See my recent post on King, Peter. This also applies to Santorum, Christie, Huckabee, etc. I will support Walker, Paul, maybe Cruz or Rubio. The bible thumpers need to get the hell out of politics. The mainstream Republican Party has become a pro-life, anti-gay version of the Democrats. Although I agree with them on those issues, it is so far down the list of the shit I care about it is inconsequentual. Keep voting for big government, more FSA, I start voting 3rd party. That's the thing though if Republicans stop being pro-Religion and "socially" conservative all those religious folks would go Democrat, because the only motivation they have to vote Republican is to oppose abortion and gay marriage. Most Christians would favor redistribution of wealth through socialism. For example, the Catholic Church and its Pope are constantly advocating in favor of wealth redistribution. You people have to understand that those who are sophisticated enough to understand economic, foreign, and national security policies are an inconsequential minority. The majority of the American people are idiots and you've got to give them red meat to motivate them. That red meat is never going to be the deficit or the national debt, because by and large most Americans don't understand any of that at all. If you think most Christians in the U.S. go along with the pope on this kind of stuff, you don't know many Christians. Even the Catholics I know don't go along with the church on immigration and wealth redistribution. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 5:58:35 PM EDT
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I will vote for the other republicans especially the local ones, for president I will vote for the democrat since bush will win Oklahoma no matter what. If I lived in a swing state it would be a hard choice but I would probably vote democrat, we need the establishment candidate to get absolutely destroyed to teach the washington cowards a lesson. Keep giving us shit and we will reject it.
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Posted: 2/1/2015 5:59:20 PM EDT
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Jeb Bush will be the next president whether we like it or not.
Just because. I'm sure none of you really believe that if it makes sense, it will happen? Old school politics are still there, and this will get him elected. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 5:59:58 PM EDT
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Palin with bush = Win
The only way I am going to consider bush in any forthcoming election. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 5:59:59 PM EDT
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Burn. Him. Down.
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Posted: 2/1/2015 6:05:27 PM EDT
[#41]
NO.
Dynastic political families are a horrible, horrible thing these days. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 6:07:17 PM EDT
[#42]
Please, don't stay home on election night just because you don't like the Presidential candidate. Your local, state, and federal rep races are just as important and will likely have any even greater impact on your life than who ends up President. If Jeb gets it just vote third party for the Presidential race, but don't forget your local and state offices my friends. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 6:10:34 PM EDT
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Exactly. You are going to lose any Democrats and most independents. Bye bye election. They're getting pretty good at losing. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In what fucking world do they think putting the name Bush on a ballot is a good idea? I don't care how good he may or may not be, that name is election poison. Because all those democrats are eager to vote for a Republican, only, it has to be someone other than a bush? Exactly. You are going to lose any Democrats and most independents. Bye bye election. They're getting pretty good at losing. How many democrats do you know that would vote R? |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 6:11:51 PM EDT
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You all know me, you all know I was part of the better an R than a D crowd...
[NO FUCKING WAY! |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 6:12:43 PM EDT
[#45]
Nope.
Aimless / Cthulhu 2016. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 6:14:03 PM EDT
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You all know me, you all know I was part of the better an R than a D crowd... [NO FUCKING WAY! Just wait until next year this time. Anyone who says they wont vote for Bush will be automatically labeled "Moby" by the usual suspects. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 6:15:10 PM EDT
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How many democrats do you know that would vote R? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In what fucking world do they think putting the name Bush on a ballot is a good idea? I don't care how good he may or may not be, that name is election poison. Because all those democrats are eager to vote for a Republican, only, it has to be someone other than a bush? Exactly. You are going to lose any Democrats and most independents. Bye bye election. They're getting pretty good at losing. How many democrats do you know that would vote R? More than a few, none of which will vote for a Bush. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 6:17:24 PM EDT
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In what fucking world do they think putting the name Bush on a ballot is a good idea? I don't care how good he may or may not be, that name is election poison. 100% agree. The name alone will lose it. Nothing against the man. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 6:20:11 PM EDT
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Both of my parents are registered democrats. They have said that they don't want Hillary in office, but will not vote for Bush.
I won't vote for him either unless someone gets me so drunk I don't know what I am punching on the ballot. None of this matters though. No Bush is going to sit in the big chair for the rest of our lifetimes. Putting him on the ticket will just make the liberals day. |
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Posted: 2/1/2015 6:21:46 PM EDT
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The only reason they would nominate him is to insure Hillary's victory, could be why Romney bowed out, he could have posed to big of a risk where Jeb is a sure bet for that outcome.
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