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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:19:19 AM EDT
Am I a thug yet?
*We have been instructed by international to strike tonight at midnight 12/8/15. We have our people in order to stand on picket lines. 
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:21:51 AM EDT
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Probably.
What are they itching to strike about? |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:22:22 AM EDT
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Are you going to beat the scabs?
Are you going to stick it to the man? You could be my new hero. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:23:12 AM EDT
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Are you going to beat the scabs? 
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:23:52 AM EDT
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How does it feel to hate free markets?
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:25:28 AM EDT
[#5]
Mind if I cross the line?
Hopefully, everyone striking will get fired. Txl |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:35:22 AM EDT
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An Oil Bargaining guy, eh?
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:36:55 AM EDT
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Steel ?
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:38:33 AM EDT
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Are you going to beat the scabs? We have to. Its in our bi-laws. Are you going to stick it to the man? Im union. I do it every day. You could be my new hero. I will be. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:39:27 AM EDT
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Steel ? Oil |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:39:51 AM EDT
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How does it feel to hate free markets? It feel good, comrade. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:40:51 AM EDT
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Probably. What are they itching to strike about? I'm sure it's something important, like more free shit 
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:42:34 AM EDT
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Steel ? Oil You are involved in the oil industry and you are going on strike? That doesn't seem very wise with the current price of oil. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:43:17 AM EDT
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I wouldn't get your hopes up for a strike. Only teachers unions strike anymore. It's hard to outsource a school to Mexico. It never works out good for plant managers or the bargaining unit if there is not an tentative. Most contracts are agreed apon in the eleventh hour anyway in my experience.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:43:39 AM EDT
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You are involved in the oil industry and you are going on strike? That doesn't seem very wise with the current price of oil. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Steel ? Oil You are involved in the oil industry and you are going on strike? That doesn't seem very wise with the current price of oil. You say "you" as if its my idea. Trust me, its not... |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:44:36 AM EDT
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I wouldn't get your hopes up for a strike. Only teachers unions strike anymore. It's hard to outsource a school to Mexico. It never works out good for plant managers or the bargaining unit if there is not an tentative. Most contracts are agreed apon in the eleventh hour anyway in my experience. Thats what happened 3 years ago. We got a call about 5 till midnight saying report to work Monday. I expect more of the same this time around. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:45:06 AM EDT
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Someone has to protect the incompetent.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:45:17 AM EDT
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The threat of a strike is a better weapon than actually striking. It's been a long time since I've seen a strike where the workers ended up ahead of the game when the dust finally settles.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:46:19 AM EDT
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Someone has to protect the incompetent. We do have more than our fair share of those. A lot of hard workers/ smart guys though too. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:47:50 AM EDT
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You should break peoples legs who cross the picket line
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:48:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We do have more than our fair share of those. A lot of hard workers/ smart guys though too. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Someone has to protect the incompetent. We do have more than our fair share of those. A lot of hard workers/ smart guys though too. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:49:32 AM EDT
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Sat in on a conference call tonight with the Negotiators on the Union side.
Not looking good. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:51:01 AM EDT
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We got fucked and our CEO got a new house in Tahoe and a 100% raise.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:53:37 AM EDT
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Sat in on a conference call tonight with the Negotiators on the Union side. Not looking good. Somalia has unions? |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:54:05 AM EDT
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The federal department I work for is only funded through 27FEB, might not be allowed to work after that, the House is using it as a bargaining chip to try to get something done with immigration, will probably wind up back-paying us to sit at home for a week again like last time.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:55:27 AM EDT
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Sat in on a conference call tonight with the Negotiators on the Union side. Not looking good. Somalia has unions? Not sure. But PA does
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Posted: 1/29/2015 12:59:05 AM EDT
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You say "you" as if its my idea. Trust me, its not... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Steel ? Oil You are involved in the oil industry and you are going on strike? That doesn't seem very wise with the current price of oil. You say "you" as if its my idea. Trust me, its not... Might as well be if you go along with it. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 1:00:26 AM EDT
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Might as well be if you go along with it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Steel ? Oil You are involved in the oil industry and you are going on strike? That doesn't seem very wise with the current price of oil. You say "you" as if its my idea. Trust me, its not... Might as well be if you go along with it. Ok |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 1:14:26 AM EDT
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You should sell t shirts.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 1:18:44 AM EDT
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My dad went on strike a few times. He was a truck mechanic for the power company and was in the IBEW. He didnt like it and wasn't thrilled to go on strike but didnt want to be a scab either. A lot of guys have that tough decision to make.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 1:21:36 AM EDT
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If I'm not mistaken, Indiana, the state listed as your location is a state that protects the Right To Work.
Why the fuck are you in the union in a state that doesn't compel you to be? |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 1:22:17 AM EDT
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My wife made some serious extra bucks on Scab duty back in 2013. 7X10 for about 6 weeks.
Funny thing...with management & engineering in the plant working, they maintained about 70% the normal output, with less rejected work, but they only put in about 40% of the total labor hours per week as normal union crew. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 1:25:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My wife made some serious extra bucks on Scab duty back in 2013. 7X10 for about 6 weeks. Funny thing...with management & engineering in the plant working, they maintained about 70% the normal output, with less rejected work, but they only put in about 40% of the total labor hours per week as normal union crew. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 1:34:56 AM EDT
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If I'm not mistaken, Indiana, the state listed as your location is a state that protects the Right To Work. Why the fuck are you in the union in a state that doesn't compel you to be? Often times in RTW states, employees at union shops are still considered union members, whether they belong by way of paying dues or not. Those that don't pay dues are referred to as non-dues-paying members. This is because the company and the union have agreed that the union shall be the sole bargaining representative for all hourly employees (or whichever employees that would normally be represented by the union). The union is even required to represent these NDPMs just as they would a member in good standing. The only things NDPMs aren't entitled to is participation in union functions such as meetings, elections, annual picnics, etc. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 1:37:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sounds like your wife's company has really crappy management. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: My wife made some serious extra bucks on Scab duty back in 2013. 7X10 for about 6 weeks. Funny thing...with management & engineering in the plant working, they maintained about 70% the normal output, with less rejected work, but they only put in about 40% of the total labor hours per week as normal union crew. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 1:39:11 AM EDT
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Sounds like your wife's company has really crappy management. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My wife made some serious extra bucks on Scab duty back in 2013. 7X10 for about 6 weeks. Funny thing...with management & engineering in the plant working, they maintained about 70% the normal output, with less rejected work, but they only put in about 40% of the total labor hours per week as normal union crew. More likely, they employed union workers.... Txl |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 1:39:11 AM EDT
[#36]
Will you be standing around the burn barrels waiting to bust heads.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 1:42:17 AM EDT
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My wife made some serious extra bucks on Scab duty back in 2013. 7X10 for about 6 weeks. Funny thing...with management & engineering in the plant working, they maintained about 70% the normal output, with less rejected work, but they only put in about 40% of the total labor hours per week as normal union crew. I work in a manufacturing facility and have a hard time believing that. Even with a seasoned crew of Amish Mexicans giving it their all, there's no way in hell they would crank out 70% schedule with just 40% of the man hours. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 1:44:30 AM EDT
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I work in a manufacturing facility and have a hard time believing that. Even with a seasoned crew of Amish Mexicans giving it their all, there's no way in hell they would crank out 70% schedule with just 40% of the man hours. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My wife made some serious extra bucks on Scab duty back in 2013. 7X10 for about 6 weeks. Funny thing...with management & engineering in the plant working, they maintained about 70% the normal output, with less rejected work, but they only put in about 40% of the total labor hours per week as normal union crew. I work in a manufacturing facility and have a hard time believing that. Even with a seasoned crew of Amish Mexicans giving it their all, there's no way in hell they would crank out 70% schedule with just 40% of the man hours. 
Txl |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 1:46:17 AM EDT
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OP,
Did stopping up the bathroom sinks to flood the offices below, slowing down work, throwing away tooling, and slitting people's tires not get you the contract you want? It didn't work for the union at my company either, but they did it anyway. Quote HistoryQuoted: My wife made some serious extra bucks on Scab duty back in 2013. 7X10 for about 6 weeks. Funny thing...with management & engineering in the plant working, they maintained about 70% the normal output, with less rejected work, but they only put in about 40% of the total labor hours per week as normal union crew. I was running CNC lathes on the weekends and cashing in making my engineer's pay rate for it.  |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 1:53:49 AM EDT
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My wife made some serious extra bucks on Scab duty back in 2013. 7X10 for about 6 weeks. Funny thing...with management & engineering in the plant working, they maintained about 70% the normal output, with less rejected work, but they only put in about 40% of the total labor hours per week as normal union crew. I work in a manufacturing facility and have a hard time believing that. Even with a seasoned crew of Amish Mexicans giving it their all, there's no way in hell they would crank out 70% schedule with just 40% of the man hours.
Txl I should acknowledge that things are different from place to place. Where I work, there's too many precision automated operations that actually have the operators waiting on the equipment instead of the other way around. A laser welding application, for example, would be one of the bottlenecks standing in the way of making that 70% schedule. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 1:56:54 AM EDT
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Often times in RTW states, employees at union shops are still considered union members, whether they belong by way of paying dues or not. Those that don't pay dues are referred to as non-dues-paying members. This is because the company and the union have agreed that the union shall be the sole bargaining representative for all hourly employees (or whichever employees that would normally be represented by the union). The union is even required to represent these NDPMs just as they would a member in good standing. The only things NDPMs aren't entitled to is participation in union functions such as meetings, elections, annual picnics, etc. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If I'm not mistaken, Indiana, the state listed as your location is a state that protects the Right To Work. Why the fuck are you in the union in a state that doesn't compel you to be? Often times in RTW states, employees at union shops are still considered union members, whether they belong by way of paying dues or not. Those that don't pay dues are referred to as non-dues-paying members. This is because the company and the union have agreed that the union shall be the sole bargaining representative for all hourly employees (or whichever employees that would normally be represented by the union). The union is even required to represent these NDPMs just as they would a member in good standing. The only things NDPMs aren't entitled to is participation in union functions such as meetings, elections, annual picnics, etc. and strikes. IIRC when I was working at UPS in Kansas, had a strike happened, my not being a Teamster would not have any impact on me working my shift during the strike. I would also have the same union protections after the strike as the guy who got caught pissing on boxes in his loading trailer. Fuck unions. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 1:58:23 AM EDT
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We got fucked and our CEO got a new house in Tahoe and a 100% raise. Don't feel bad. Our CEO just got a $2.4 million bonus (around $5.5 million for all the chairmen combined) and its looking more and more everyday like we'll be bankrupt by the end of this year or the first quarter of 2016. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 2:00:07 AM EDT
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What are you striking for specifically?
This is GD & it's early, we might as well run this 10-15 pages telling you how wrong you are... |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 2:01:30 AM EDT
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Don't feel bad. Our CEO just got a $2.4 million bonus (around $5.5 million for all the chairmen combined) and its looking more and more everyday like we'll be bankrupt by the end of this year or the first quarter of 2016. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We got fucked and our CEO got a new house in Tahoe and a 100% raise. Don't feel bad. Our CEO just got a $2.4 million bonus (around $5.5 million for all the chairmen combined) and its looking more and more everyday like we'll be bankrupt by the end of this year or the first quarter of 2016. Wow, big time cronyism in the board and won't do anything for the shareholders? |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 2:03:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We got fucked and our CEO got a new house in Tahoe and a 100% raise. Your comment drives right to the heart of what people say about Obama: "Small men fret over how to split up the pie. Big men focus on creating more pie." |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 2:18:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Probably. What are they itching to strike about? "Whattaya got?" |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 2:23:28 AM EDT
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Wow, big time cronyism in the board and won't do anything for the shareholders? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We got fucked and our CEO got a new house in Tahoe and a 100% raise. Don't feel bad. Our CEO just got a $2.4 million bonus (around $5.5 million for all the chairmen combined) and its looking more and more everyday like we'll be bankrupt by the end of this year or the first quarter of 2016. Wow, big time cronyism in the board and won't do anything for the shareholders? Our stock hit an all time low of $0.81 per share this week. The company just suspended the dividends for the first quarter of 2015 to "enhance financial flexibility". |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 2:25:03 AM EDT
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Steel ? Oil Seriously? With as much money and per diem as you guys typically get, what possible reason would you have for a strike? |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 2:27:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You should break peoples legs who cross the picket line Killed him. Involuntary manslaughter. Hell of a thing for a few weeks of shutdown work. Shit gets real in a small town when the largest employer around is looking for workers and the union boys are striking. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 2:27:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't feel bad. Our CEO just got a $2.4 million bonus (around $5.5 million for all the chairmen combined) and its looking more and more everyday like we'll be bankrupt by the end of this year or the first quarter of 2016. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We got fucked and our CEO got a new house in Tahoe and a 100% raise. Don't feel bad. Our CEO just got a $2.4 million bonus (around $5.5 million for all the chairmen combined) and its looking more and more everyday like we'll be bankrupt by the end of this year or the first quarter of 2016. Why didn't you demand the same compensation as the CEO when you accepted your job? |
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