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Posted: 1/22/2015 9:30:54 AM EDT
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A bill recognizing Kansans' freedom to legally carry a concealed firearm without the burdensome requirement of acquiring a Kansas concealed carry license was introduced in the Kansas Senate. Authored by Senate Majority Leader Terry Bruce (R-34), is an important amendment to current Kansas law and has already received 26 cosponsors. Both KSRA and NRA support this legislation.  Freedom Bitches!!!! eta for update: FAQ for Proposed Constitutional Carry Legislation Q1. Does this mean I get a refund on my existing concealed carry permit? ANSWER: No Q2. Do I still have to take a training class to carry concealed without a permit? ANSWER: No Q3. Will I need a concealed carry permit to carry in other states such as those Kansas has reciprocity with? ANSWER: Yes Q4. What other states have Constitutional Carry? ANSWER: Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Vermont, and Wyoming. But check the law of that state as you may need to be a resident of that state to carry concealed without a permit. Q5. What are the odds this bill will pass and be signed into law? ANSWER: We don't have a crystal ball but it looks extremely promising based on the number of sponsors in the Senate and the enthusiasm from those in the House. Pro-Second Amendment legislators hold a majority in both chambers of the Kansas Legislature. Q6. When will the vote be? ANSWER: Once a bill is introduced there are committee hearings and the committee must recommend it be heard by the full chamber it was introduced in. Then that full chamber votes. Upon passage by that first chamber (in this case the Senate) it moves to the other chamber (the House in this case) and then again there is a committee hearing and a full chamber vote. This process takes several weeks. We'll be keeping you up to date every step of the way. Q7. How does this affect carrying concealed in a school zone? ANSWER: The provision in federal law that allows concealed carry in school zones is based upon having a concealed carry permit from their state of residence and that state having no prohibition on licensee's carrying. The KS Attorney General ruled on this issue regarding Open Carry, which requires no license, and advised that you cannot Open Carry a loaded firearm in a school zone. The same will apply to Constitutional (Permitless) Carry. In Federal law, Title 18 USC Section 922(q) is the code that contains the Gun Free School Zone Act of 1995, which prohibits the possession of a firearm in a "school zone". A school zone is defined as the grounds of a public, parochial or private elementary or secondary school and encompasses 1,000 feet of the grounds surrounding the school. The ban on firearm possession does not apply to private property that may be within that 1,000 feet but not part of the school property. You must have a concealed carry permit in order to have or carry a loaded gun in a school zone in Kansas. Q8. Is this the first attempt to pass Constitutional Carry in Kansas? ANSWER: Yes Q9. Do I need to qualify on the range or take any tests to carry concealed without a permit? ANSWER: No Q10. Do I need to pass a background check to carry concealed without a permit? ANSWER: No. However, you must be able to legally possess a firearm. Q11. Will non-residents of Kansas be able to carry concealed without a permit? ANSWER: Yes Q12. Will I still be able to obtain a Kansas Concealed Carry Permit? ANSWER: Yes. All current law and procedures for obtaining a Kansas Concealed Carry Permit will still exist. Many may wish to obtain that permit in order to be able to carry concealed in other states and in order to make gun purchases in Kansas. Q13. Will I be able to carry concealed without a permit in all the same places that I am able to carry concealed with a concealed carry permit? ANSWER: Yes. The rules are the same. Q14. How old do I have to be to carry concealed without a concealed carry permit? ANSWER: You must be 21 years of age or older to carry concealed in Kansas with or without a concealed carry permit. Q15. Will this be a new law? ANSWER: No. This will be an amendment to the existing law which is known as the Personal and Family Protection Act (PFPA). If enacted it will add a provision that you do not have to obtain a concealed carry permit in order to carry concealed in Kansas. All other rules contained in the PFPA will remain the same. Yesterday, Senate Bill 45 passed in the Kansas Senate by a 31 to 7 vote. This permitless carry legislation will now be transmitted to the Kansas House of Representatives where it will be assigned to committee. Authored by Senate Majority Leader Terry Bruce (R-34), SB 45 recognizes Kansans’ freedom to legally carry a concealed firearm without the burdensome requirement of acquiring a Kansas concealed carry handgun license (CCHL). SB 45 is a necessary update to concealed carry in Kansas, allowing law-abiding gun owners the ability to better protect themselves and their loved ones. In Kansas, it is already legal to carry a firearm openly, as long as the individual is not prohibited by law from possessing a firearm. However, under current law, if a firearm becomes covered by a coat or if a woman prefers to carry a firearm for self-protection in her purse, he or she would need to possess a CCHL. This legislation gives Kansans the freedom to choose the best method of carrying for them, based on their attire, gender and/or physical attributes. However, this legislation would also keep in place the current permitting system so that people who obtain a permit could still enjoy the reciprocity agreements that Kansas has with other states. Please thank those state Senators who voted in support of this important Right to Carry reform and begin contacting your state Representative, encouraging him or her to vote for SB 45 when it comes before them. Your NRA-ILA will keep you updated as this bill is assigned to a House committee. UPDATE #3 BILL SIGNED INTO LAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/render?ca=16bc240e-be12-4f0d-8ef8-8e8a9b5593d7&c=40dc4b70-4c5f-11e3-9b72-d4ae5275505f&ch=41ef1b00-4c5f-11e3-9b76-d4ae5275505f |
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Posted: 1/22/2015 9:33:41 AM EDT
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AWESOME!
IN before any Freedom Haters... |
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Posted: 1/22/2015 9:34:30 AM EDT
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yay, Kansas.
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Posted: 1/22/2015 9:36:24 AM EDT
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A step in the right direction for sure!
Congrats Kansas, I hope it quickly passes. |
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Posted: 1/22/2015 9:38:16 AM EDT
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About time but they should refund us all our permit fees if it passes.
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Posted: 1/22/2015 9:39:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: About time but they should refund us all our permit fees if it passes. Thats no shit!! |
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Posted: 1/22/2015 9:55:28 AM EDT
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Good
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Posted: 1/22/2015 9:56:46 AM EDT
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Quoted:
http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/render?ca=6ab0f6c3-23de-41af-b359-b9d6b7808a6f&c=40dc4b70-4c5f-11e3-9b72-d4ae5275505f&ch=41ef1b00-4c5f-11e3-9b76-d4ae5275505f A bill recognizing Kansans' freedom to legally carry a concealed firearm without the burdensome requirement of acquiring a Kansas concealed carry license was introduced in the Kansas Senate. Authored by Senate Majority Leader Terry Bruce (R-34), is an important amendment to current Kansas law and has already received 26 cosponsors. Both KSRA and NRA support this legislation.
Freedom Bitches!!!! 
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Posted: 1/22/2015 9:57:08 AM EDT
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 Hope it Intactos. |
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Posted: 1/22/2015 9:59:02 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/22/2015 10:00:56 AM EDT
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Taking bets on how long before a lawsuit from the BHO/EH monkeys over this once passes & signed?
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Posted: 1/22/2015 10:00:58 AM EDT
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excellent, what are its chances of passing?
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Posted: 1/22/2015 10:03:03 AM EDT
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excellent, what are its chances of passing? I would say they are good. |
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Posted: 1/22/2015 3:43:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Taking bets on how long before a lawsuit from the BHO/EH monkeys over this once passes & signed? 87 seconds. Brady Bunch is already here setting up shop. |
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Posted: 1/22/2015 3:44:53 PM EDT
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http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/render?ca=b968be76-c37f-48ac-b9a0-fa926e9213bd&c=40dc4b70-4c5f-11e3-9b72-d4ae5275505f&ch=41ef1b00-4c5f-11e3-9b76-d4ae5275505f
FAQ for Proposed Constitutional Carry Legislation Q1. Does this mean I get a refund on my existing concealed carry permit? ANSWER: No Q2. Do I still have to take a training class to carry concealed without a permit? ANSWER: No Q3. Will I need a concealed carry permit to carry in other states such as those Kansas has reciprocity with? ANSWER: Yes Q4. What other states have Constitutional Carry? ANSWER: Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Vermont, and Wyoming. But check the law of that state as you may need to be a resident of that state to carry concealed without a permit. Q5. What are the odds this bill will pass and be signed into law? ANSWER: We don't have a crystal ball but it looks extremely promising based on the number of sponsors in the Senate and the enthusiasm from those in the House. Pro-Second Amendment legislators hold a majority in both chambers of the Kansas Legislature. Q6. When will the vote be? ANSWER: Once a bill is introduced there are committee hearings and the committee must recommend it be heard by the full chamber it was introduced in. Then that full chamber votes. Upon passage by that first chamber (in this case the Senate) it moves to the other chamber (the House in this case) and then again there is a committee hearing and a full chamber vote. This process takes several weeks. We'll be keeping you up to date every step of the way. Click this LINK to see the process a bill goes through to become law. Q7. How does this affect carrying concealed in a school zone? ANSWER: The provision in federal law that allows concealed carry in school zones is based upon having a concealed carry permit from their state of residence and that state having no prohibition on licensee's carrying. The KS Attorney General ruled on this issue regarding Open Carry, which requires no license, and advised that you cannot Open Carry a loaded firearm in a school zone. The same will apply to Constitutional (Permitless) Carry. In Federal law, Title 18 USC Section 922(q) is the code that contains the Gun Free School Zone Act of 1995, which prohibits the possession of a firearm in a "school zone". A school zone is defined as the grounds of a public, parochial or private elementary or secondary school and encompasses 1,000 feet of the grounds surrounding the school. The ban on firearm possession does not apply to private property that may be within that 1,000 feet but not part of the school property. You must have a concealed carry permit in order to have or carry a loaded gun in a school zone in Kansas. Q8. Is this the first attempt to pass Constitutional Carry in Kansas? ANSWER: Yes Q9. Do I need to qualify on the range or take any tests to carry concealed without a permit? ANSWER: No Q10. Do I need to pass a background check to carry concealed without a permit? ANSWER: No. However, you must be able to legally possess a firearm. Q11. Will non-residents of Kansas be able to carry concealed without a permit? ANSWER: Yes Q12. Will I still be able to obtain a Kansas Concealed Carry Permit? ANSWER: Yes. All current law and procedures for obtaining a Kansas Concealed Carry Permit will still exist. Many may wish to obtain that permit in order to be able to carry concealed in other states and in order to make gun purchases in Kansas. Q13. Will I be able to carry concealed without a permit in all the same places that I am able to carry concealed with a concealed carry permit? ANSWER: Yes. The rules are the same. Q14. How old do I have to be to carry concealed without a concealed carry permit? ANSWER: You must be 21 years of age or older to carry concealed in Kansas with or without a concealed carry permit. Q15. Will this be a new law? ANSWER: No. This will be an amendment to the existing law which is known as the Personal and Family Protection Act (PFPA). If enacted it will add a provision that you do not have to obtain a concealed carry permit in order to carry concealed in Kansas. All other rules contained in the PFPA will remain the same. |
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Posted: 1/22/2015 3:46:30 PM EDT
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Nice. Are they going to keep some form of permit for those who travel out of state?
If yall need some polite, respectful calls urging support of this one, let us know. 
ETA: Of course you post the FAQ as I'm replying to the thread. 
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Posted: 1/22/2015 3:46:32 PM EDT
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I've met Sen. Tyson.
She is cool 
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Posted: 1/22/2015 3:48:33 PM EDT
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AWESOME!
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Posted: 1/22/2015 3:49:33 PM EDT
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Not sure how I feel about this. On one hand its cool, on the other hand every swingin dick gang banger is going to be walking around with his gat and that kinda scares me a little.
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Posted: 1/22/2015 3:52:45 PM EDT
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Not sure how I feel about this. On one hand its cool, on the other hand every swingin dick gang banger is going to be walking around with his gat and that kinda scares me a little. Freedom is scary.  It is not like the criminals carry without a permit now anyways.
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Posted: 1/22/2015 4:02:38 PM EDT
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Not sure how I feel about this. On one hand its cool, on the other hand every swingin dick gang banger is going to be walking around with his gat and that kinda scares me a little. Because until now criminals have never carried guns because it's illegal.
Sounding awfully anti there. |
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Posted: 1/22/2015 4:05:14 PM EDT
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Not sure how I feel about this. On one hand its cool, on the other hand every swingin dick gang banger is going to be walking around with his gat and that kinda scares me a little. out of
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Posted: 1/22/2015 4:08:02 PM EDT
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It just keeps getting better.
 PermitlessConcealed Carry Legislation Introduced in Kansas Senate A bill recognizing Kansans' freedom to legally carry a concealed firearm without the burdensome requirement of acquiring a Kansas concealed carry license was introduced in the Kansas Senate. Authored by Senate Majority Leader Terry Bruce (R-34), Senate Bill 45 is an important amendment to current Kansas law and has already received 26 cosponsors. Both KSRA and NRA support this legislation. SB 45 is a necessary update to concealed carry in Kansas, allowing law-abiding gun owners the ability to protect themselves and their loved ones. In Kansas, it is already legal to carry a firearm openly, as long as the individual is not prohibited by law from possessing a firearm. However, under current law, if a firearm becomes covered by a coat or if a woman prefers to carry a firearm for self-protection in her purse, one would need to possess a concealed carry permit. This permitless carry legislation gives Kansans the freedom to choose the best method of carrying for them, based on their attire, gender and/or physical attributes. SB 45 is an important pro-gun reform that deserves your support, and we will keep you updated as this legislation is assigned to committee and moves through the legislative process. In the meantime, please use the contact information provided below to thank Senator Terry Bruce as well as the other 25 cosponsors for their work advancing your Right to Keep and Bear Arms. And RIGHT TO HUNT AND FISH IN KANSAS AMENDMENT TO KANSAS CONSTITUTION PROPOSED A Kansas House Concurrent Resolution to amend the Constitution of the State of Kansas has been introduced by Rep. Travis Couture-Lovelady in the KS House of Representatives. HCR 5008 is designed to protect the right to Hunt, Fish and Trap in Kansas. If this resolution passes both chambers of the Kansas legislature then it will be placed on the general election ballot in November 2016 for the voters to decide if it should be codified in the Kansas Constitution. It will require two thirds of the voters voting yes to adopt this resolution. This amendment is to preserve constitutionally the right of the public to hunt, fish and trap wildlife subject to reasonable laws and regulations. The right of the public to hunt, fish and trap shall not modify any provision of common law or statutes relating to trespass, eminent domain or any other private property rights. The exact verbiage that will be codified in the Kansas Constitution, should it pass, is: "The people have the right to hunt, fish and trap, including by the use of traditional methods, subject to laws and regulations that promote wildlife conservation and management and that preserve the future of hunting and fishing. Public hunting and fishing shall be a preferred means of managing and controlling wildlife. This section shall not be construed to modify any provision of law relating to trespass, property rights or water resources." CLICK HERE to read this resolution |
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Posted: 1/22/2015 4:08:44 PM EDT
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Not sure how I feel about this. On one hand its cool, on the other hand every swingin dick gang banger is going to be walking around with his gat and that kinda scares me a little. I just spent some time typing out a pretty scathing response to your post and deleted it all after I realized you're a new member as of this month, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and just post this... 
(Stick around and you might learn a thing or two about guns and an armed society.) |
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Posted: 1/22/2015 4:09:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not sure how I feel about this. On one hand its cool, on the other hand every swingin dick gang banger is going to be walking around with his gat and that kinda scares me a little.  WTF? Felonies, How do they work. |
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Posted: 1/22/2015 4:12:24 PM EDT
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It just keeps getting better. Quote HistoryQuoted:
It just keeps getting better. [div style='text-align: center;'] That is a fucking beautiful State house! No seriously. My inner architectural geek is getting tight pants right now... |
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Posted: 1/22/2015 4:14:45 PM EDT
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Not sure how I feel about this. On one hand its cool, on the other hand every swingin dick gang banger is going to be walking around with his gat and that kinda scares me a little. California much. Freedom is scary I know but it will be OK.
Notice VT is on that list and it is the safest state in the country. Granted no one lives here but still..... |
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Posted: 1/22/2015 4:14:57 PM EDT
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The two problems I see in getting this passed 1. News and anti-gunners claiming how dangerous this will be (see a few posts above) 2. The loss of income from fees. Kansas has budget problems and the bloodsuckers may not want to lose the income. You just have to take one look at Vermont and see what a bloodbath that place is with no license carry. |
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Posted: 1/22/2015 4:15:07 PM EDT
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Not sure how I feel about this. On one hand its cool, on the other hand every swingin dick gang banger is going to be walking around with his gat and that kinda scares me a little. You'll not have any doubts about Constitutional Carry or freedom in general, after perusing this site for a while if you're willing to keep an open mind I was mostly ambivalent about some laws concerning firearm ownership (rights of an EX felon to possess a firearm, for one) until I joined up |
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Posted: 1/22/2015 4:16:41 PM EDT
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The two problems I see in getting this passed 1. News and anti-gunners claiming how dangerous this will be (see a few posts above) 2. The loss of income from fees. Kansas has budget problems and the bloodsuckers may not want to lose the income. You just have to take one look at New Hampshire and see what a bloodbath that place is with no license carry. NH has a license. VT does not. NH is a shall issue and costs $10 for 5 years if a resident |
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Posted: 1/22/2015 4:21:17 PM EDT
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I just spent some time typing out a pretty scathing response to your post and deleted it all after I realized you're a new member as of this month, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and just post this... http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs44/f/2009/135/7/c/Daniel__s_Facepalm_by_xAikaNoKurayami.jpg (Stick around and you might learn a thing or two about guns and an armed society.) Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not sure how I feel about this. On one hand its cool, on the other hand every swingin dick gang banger is going to be walking around with his gat and that kinda scares me a little. I just spent some time typing out a pretty scathing response to your post and deleted it all after I realized you're a new member as of this month, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and just post this... http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs44/f/2009/135/7/c/Daniel__s_Facepalm_by_xAikaNoKurayami.jpg (Stick around and you might learn a thing or two about guns and an armed society.) I'm glad you posted this... I was about to blow a gasket myself. |
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Posted: 1/22/2015 4:23:28 PM EDT
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About time but they should refund us all our permit fees if it passes. I won't lose any sleep over it. |
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Posted: 1/22/2015 4:26:55 PM EDT
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Not sure how I feel about this. On one hand its cool, on the other hand every swingin dick gang banger is going to be walking around with his gat and that kinda scares me a little. You should really not post anymore. |
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Posted: 1/22/2015 4:28:38 PM EDT
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Nice. Maybe I will retire to the land of my birth.
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Posted: 1/22/2015 4:29:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: NH has a license. VT does not. NH is a shall issue and costs $10 for 5 years if a resident Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The two problems I see in getting this passed 1. News and anti-gunners claiming how dangerous this will be (see a few posts above) 2. The loss of income from fees. Kansas has budget problems and the bloodsuckers may not want to lose the income. You just have to take one look at New Hampshire and see what a bloodbath that place is with no license carry. NH has a license. VT does not. NH is a shall issue and costs $10 for 5 years if a resident Ah, thanks. Got them confused. |
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Posted: 1/22/2015 4:29:42 PM EDT
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Not sure how I feel about this. On one hand its cool, on the other hand every swingin dick gang banger is going to be walking around with his gat and that kinda scares me a little. Yep, cause them darn criminal gang bangers all applied for and received their CCL. /
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Posted: 1/22/2015 4:30:29 PM EDT
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I love Kansas more an more every year. So glad the Army sent me there. Now I have even more reason to stay after retirement.
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Posted: 1/22/2015 4:40:35 PM EDT
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I must be slipping, because I hadn't heard all those states had constitutional carry. Last I remember it was Vermont, Alaska and AZ.
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Posted: 1/22/2015 4:47:04 PM EDT
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Not sure how I feel about this. On one hand its cool, on the other hand every swingin dick gang banger is going to be walking around with his gat and that kinda scares me a little. 15ers 
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Posted: 1/22/2015 4:48:51 PM EDT
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Not sure how I feel about this. On one hand its cool, on the other hand every swingin dick gang banger is going to be walking around with his gat and that kinda scares me a little. Well even though several others have responded, I will try to respond to your fears in a reasonable manner. Gangbangers already carry concealed now whenever they feel like it whether they are legal to possess or have a permit or not. So this law won't chang that. If you are carrying and practice more than they do (you know this is a pro gun site right?) you should not be afraid, they should. KS has always been an open carry legal state in modern times, some municipalities just needed reminded of that with lawsuits and this year a codified law from the state legislators putting it in black and white for them since they were slow learners. Now if this passes ,which is highly likely, we will have constitutional carry as it should be. Kansas isn't for everyone but it has its good points as well. We are very gun friendly and most of us outside of Lawrence (damn you Quantrell should of built a bigger fire) and we are not unreasonably afraid of firearms. We recognize them as a legitimate tool. |
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Posted: 1/22/2015 4:50:58 PM EDT
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I love Kansas more an more every year. So glad the Army sent me there. Now I have even more reason to stay after retirement. This. I don't know how people hate it here. Gas is generally cheaper too.
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Posted: 1/22/2015 4:52:35 PM EDT
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The two problems I see in getting this passed 1. News and anti-gunners claiming how dangerous this will be (see a few posts above) 2. The loss of income from fees. Kansas has budget problems and the bloodsuckers may not want to lose the income. You just have to take one look at Vermont and see what a bloodbath that place is with no license carry. VT, NH, ME are always in the top 5 for lowest crime rates nation wide. Statistically the safest place to be in America is Northern New England. |
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Posted: 1/22/2015 4:52:40 PM EDT
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Well even though several others have responded, I will try to respond to your fears in a reasonable manner. Gangbangers already carry concealed now whenever they feel like it whether they are legal to possess or have a permit or not. So this law won't chang that. If you are carrying and practice more than they do (you know this is a pro gun site right?) you should not be afraid, they should. KS has always been an open carry legal state in modern times, some municipalities just needed reminded of that with lawsuits and this year a codified law from the state legislators putting it in black and white for them since they were slow learners. Now if this passes ,which is highly likely, we will have constitutional carry as it should be. Kansas isn't for everyone but it has its good points as well. We are very gun friendly and most of us outside of Lawrence (damn you Quantrell should of built a bigger fire) and we are not unreasonably afraid of firearms. We recognize them as a legitimate tool. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not sure how I feel about this. On one hand its cool, on the other hand every swingin dick gang banger is going to be walking around with his gat and that kinda scares me a little. Well even though several others have responded, I will try to respond to your fears in a reasonable manner. Gangbangers already carry concealed now whenever they feel like it whether they are legal to possess or have a permit or not. So this law won't chang that. If you are carrying and practice more than they do (you know this is a pro gun site right?) you should not be afraid, they should. KS has always been an open carry legal state in modern times, some municipalities just needed reminded of that with lawsuits and this year a codified law from the state legislators putting it in black and white for them since they were slow learners. Now if this passes ,which is highly likely, we will have constitutional carry as it should be. Kansas isn't for everyone but it has its good points as well. We are very gun friendly and most of us outside of Lawrence (damn you Quantrell should of built a bigger fire) and we are not unreasonably afraid of firearms. We recognize them as a legitimate tool. Quit making Kansas sound so good, if everybody finds out about our great gun laws, awesome hunting and fishing, cheap housing, and low crime rate they are all gonna flood up here. J/K, arfcomeers are welcome, just leave the liberals where you are. |
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Posted: 1/22/2015 5:31:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuit making Kansas sound so good, if everybody finds out about our great gun laws, awesome hunting and fishing, cheap housing, and low crime rate they are all gonna flood up here. J/K, arfcomeers are welcome, just leave the liberals where you are. This |
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Posted: 1/22/2015 5:33:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I won't lose any sleep over it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: About time but they should refund us all our permit fees if it passes. I won't lose any sleep over it. Yep. Even if it passes I'll continue to renew my permit for the reciprocity. |
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Posted: 1/22/2015 5:35:03 PM EDT
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A step in the right direction for sure! Congrats Kansas, I hope it quickly passes. 
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Posted: 1/22/2015 5:41:55 PM EDT
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Freedom is scary. It is not like the criminals carry without a permit now anyways.Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not sure how I feel about this. On one hand its cool, on the other hand every swingin dick gang banger is going to be walking around with his gat and that kinda scares me a little. Freedom is scary. It is not like the criminals carry without a permit now anyways.Quoted:
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Not sure how I feel about this. On one hand its cool, on the other hand every swingin dick gang banger is going to be walking around with his gat and that kinda scares me a little. Freedom is scary. It is not like the criminals carry without a permit now anyways.Guess what. They wont be criminals till they *use* the gun now, thanks to this law.Even if nknow beyond a shadow of a doubt someone is up to no good, theres not shit that can be done. If you think the risk of getting caught with an illegal pistols hasnt stopped someone from carrying, you need to come down from your gated communities and spend some time in the hood. No petty criminal wants to get busted with a gun in his waistband. Now? Its not illegal, so why not carry a gun? Remember, whats good for the goose is good for the gander. That corner filled with homies? Now its a corner filled with homies who can legally carry guns . |
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Posted: 1/22/2015 5:42:54 PM EDT
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Because until now criminals have never carried guns because it's illegal.
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Not sure how I feel about this. On one hand its cool, on the other hand every swingin dick gang banger is going to be walking around with his gat and that kinda scares me a little. Because until now criminals have never carried guns because it's illegal.
Sounding awfully anti there. Yes, I"m 100% anti because I dont want criminals with no record empowered to carry guns. How very anti of me. Next up I might actually be giving money to ban pointy sticks.
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Posted: 1/22/2015 5:43:39 PM EDT
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WTF? Felonies, How do they work. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not sure how I feel about this. On one hand its cool, on the other hand every swingin dick gang banger is going to be walking around with his gat and that kinda scares me a little.
WTF? Felonies, How do they work. Sorry, not everyone with their pants around their knees engaged in illegal activities has a record. I know, I know. Its a shocking fact I'm sure you've just been presented. I'll give you time to digest. |
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Posted: 1/22/2015 5:44:36 PM EDT
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Not sure how I feel about this. On one hand its cool, on the other hand every swingin dick gang banger is going to be walking around with his gat and that kinda scares me a little. You should really not post anymore. You should really think about this thing called "Unintended consequences". Imagine for a minute, if you can, if Ferguson were in Kansas. Oh what fun we'll have....... |
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Posted: 1/22/2015 5:44:56 PM EDT
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It'll pass. Now if we could get rid of liberal Lawrence... :)
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