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Posted: 1/18/2015 4:44:59 PM EDT
I'm just asking from a scientific point and not the governments experiment..
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From a scientific standpoint there is no such as "race." There are no particular genetic markers that decide race. The genetic difference between those with higher levels of melanin in their skin and paler folk is less than that between Finns and Italians.
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Quoted: From a scientific standpoint there is no such as "race." There are no particular genetic markers that decide race. The genetic difference between those with higher levels of melanin in their skin and paler folk is less than that between Finns and Italians. Race is a completely social construct. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile View Quote |
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From a scientific standpoint there is no such as "race." There are no particular genetic markers that decide race. The genetic difference between those with higher levels of melanin in their skin and paler folk is less than that between Finns and Italians. Race is a completely social construct. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile View Quote LOL cats. I'm sure somebody will come along soon to post the chart showing various genetic groups and the ratio of difference. However.... everything is an arbitrary "construct." Traditional definitions use their own criteria and are no less of a "construct" than more modern categorizations that use different parameters. |
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[racist]the right one and the wrong ones[/racist] ETA: Oh, nevermind...you said NOT gov't experiment. |
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Race was created. One.
Like saying how many fat blonds with large second toes
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5...
This has to be a troll post. Not like is hard too look it up |
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There are three races: pure African homo sapiens, homo sapiens hybridized with Neanderthals (Europe, Asia, Americas), and homo sapiens hybridized with denisovians (Australia, New Guinea).
Its as good as the other definitions. |
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LOL cats. I'm sure somebody will come along soon to post the chart showing various genetic groups and the ratio of difference. However.... everything is an arbitrary "construct." Traditional definitions use their own criteria and are no less of a "construct" than more modern categorizations that use different parameters. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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From a scientific standpoint there is no such as "race." There are no particular genetic markers that decide race. The genetic difference between those with higher levels of melanin in their skin and paler folk is less than that between Finns and Italians. Race is a completely social construct. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile LOL cats. I'm sure somebody will come along soon to post the chart showing various genetic groups and the ratio of difference. However.... everything is an arbitrary "construct." Traditional definitions use their own criteria and are no less of a "construct" than more modern categorizations that use different parameters. I didn't say that there were other more "valid" scientific classifications. Historically human groupings have been by kin, clan, and locality. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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From a scientific standpoint there is no such as "race." There are no particular genetic markers that decide race. The genetic difference between those with higher levels of melanin in their skin and paler folk is less than that between Finns and Italians. Race is a completely social construct. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile View Quote I'm calling bullshit on this. It's not a single marker, it's sets of them in combination. Just because the genetic differences are minor doesn't mean the end results aren't there. This is real and relevant when you're looking at, say, risks for various types of diseases and disorders. There are populations that share various genetic traits and which have varying degrees of distinctiveness (since, obviously, people get around). Smug blathering that race is a social construct is, itself, a political-correctness construct. You might as well deny that dog breeds exist; that's just as fucking stupid. |
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About seven billion. Or one. Or 87.
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You know what OP, in all seriousness, please provide the scientific definition of a "genetic race", and then perhaps someone may be able to attempt to answer your question.
As it is now, "race" is a very non-scientific measure of anything. |
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I'm calling bullshit on this. It's not a single marker, it's sets of them in combination. Just because the genetic differences are minor doesn't mean the end results aren't there. This is real and relevant when you're looking at, say, risks for various types of diseases and disorders. There are populations that share various genetic traits and which have varying degrees of distinctiveness (since, obviously, people get around). Smug blathering that race is a social construct is, itself, a political-correctness construct. You might as well deny that dog breeds exist; that's just as fucking stupid. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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From a scientific standpoint there is no such as "race." There are no particular genetic markers that decide race. The genetic difference between those with higher levels of melanin in their skin and paler folk is less than that between Finns and Italians. Race is a completely social construct. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I'm calling bullshit on this. It's not a single marker, it's sets of them in combination. Just because the genetic differences are minor doesn't mean the end results aren't there. This is real and relevant when you're looking at, say, risks for various types of diseases and disorders. There are populations that share various genetic traits and which have varying degrees of distinctiveness (since, obviously, people get around). Smug blathering that race is a social construct is, itself, a political-correctness construct. You might as well deny that dog breeds exist; that's just as fucking stupid. Is an Asian white is someone from South America white? I say yes. |
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Quoted: I'm calling bullshit on this. It's not a single marker, it's sets of them in combination. Just because the genetic differences are minor doesn't mean the end results aren't there. This is real and relevant when you're looking at, say, risks for various types of diseases and disorders. There are populations that share various genetic traits and which have varying degrees of distinctiveness (since, obviously, people get around). Smug blathering that race is a social construct is, itself, a political-correctness construct. You might as well deny that dog breeds exist; that's just as fucking stupid. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: From a scientific standpoint there is no such as "race." There are no particular genetic markers that decide race. The genetic difference between those with higher levels of melanin in their skin and paler folk is less than that between Finns and Italians. Race is a completely social construct. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I'm calling bullshit on this. It's not a single marker, it's sets of them in combination. Just because the genetic differences are minor doesn't mean the end results aren't there. This is real and relevant when you're looking at, say, risks for various types of diseases and disorders. There are populations that share various genetic traits and which have varying degrees of distinctiveness (since, obviously, people get around). Smug blathering that race is a social construct is, itself, a political-correctness construct. You might as well deny that dog breeds exist; that's just as fucking stupid. So far, you've provided non-specific meaningless blather. Then we'll criticize it. |
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Is an Asian white is someone from South America white? I say yes. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Smug blathering that race is a social construct is, itself, a political-correctness construct. You might as well deny that dog breeds exist; that's just as fucking stupid. Is an Asian white is someone from South America white? I say yes. ...then suddenly the conversation took a turn towards the cerebral when the OP announced that he "likes turtles." |
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Quoted: Used to describe observed genetic differences among humans before genetics were fully understood. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Race is a completely social construct. Used to describe observed genetic differences among humans before genetics were fully understood. |
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Quoted: ...then suddenly the conversation took a turn towards the cerebral when the OP announced that he "likes turtles." View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Smug blathering that race is a social construct is, itself, a political-correctness construct. You might as well deny that dog breeds exist; that's just as fucking stupid. Is an Asian white is someone from South America white? I say yes. ...then suddenly the conversation took a turn towards the cerebral when the OP announced that he "likes turtles." Turtles are a social construct. |
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The problem is there is not clear definition of what a race is - and all it takes is two people to have a kid to suddenly created a category that doesn't fit into any previous category.
Similar with species. We tend to lump species based on the physical traits, but when it comes to something like dogs they are all one species. Even though if a Great Dane and a Tea Cup poodle somehow managed to evolve on their own, we would have made them different species. |
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What the hell is a genetic race?
If two things can breed, they are usually the same species. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Smug blathering that race is a social construct is, itself, a political-correctness construct. You might as well deny that dog breeds exist; that's just as fucking stupid. Is an Asian white is someone from South America white? I say yes. ...then suddenly the conversation took a turn towards the cerebral when the OP announced that he "likes turtles." Turtles are a social construct. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Smug blathering that race is a social construct is, itself, a political-correctness construct. You might as well deny that dog breeds exist; that's just as fucking stupid. Is an Asian white is someone from South America white? I say yes. ...then suddenly the conversation took a turn towards the cerebral when the OP announced that he "likes turtles." Turtles are a social construct. The reality is, all taxonomy is a "social construct", in that, the categorical levels are arbitrary above and below the species level. |
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You know dog breeds are man made, right? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You might as well deny that dog breeds exist; that's just as fucking stupid. You know dog breeds are man made, right? Same process as speciation though, favorable traits are bred, unfavorable ones removed from the line. Just replace nature with human. |
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Quoted: Same process as speciation though, favorable traits are bred, unfavorable ones removed from the line. Just replace nature with human. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: You might as well deny that dog breeds exist; that's just as fucking stupid. You know dog breeds are man made, right? Same process as speciation though, favorable traits are bred, unfavorable ones removed from the line. Just replace nature with human. |
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White, black, Asian, Hispanic, Native American, other.
I believe those are the ones I have to think about pocking ( more like which one do I arbitealy pick) while filling out the census. |
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You know what OP, in all seriousness, please provide the scientific definition of a "genetic race", and then perhaps someone may be able to attempt to answer your question. As it is now, "race" is a very non-scientific measure of anything. View Quote Just trying to point out how I believe people have been sold on Race by the government. Anthropologist I guess look at it differently then we do Ne-groid, Mongoloid and Caucasoid. with about 30 sub-groups. In terms of a noun Its a race of speed ,running driving or running. Race is obsolete as a biological system of classification and I get a fucking headache when I look for an answer from some of the best minds in the country who happen to be member's of this site. |
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The use of domesticated animals (dogs, cats, others) is an invalid use of the term race, or breed, since they are artificial constructs, engineered over the ages by humans.
In the absence of human intervention, these characteristics would disappear over a long time. Likewise, most characteristics differentiating humans will disappear over time, given the vastly increased ability of humans to relocate, and breed with others of different characteristics. In the future, the world will probably be browner (or maybe yellower), but no less human. |
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Quoted: Same process as speciation though, favorable traits are bred, unfavorable ones removed from the line. Just replace nature with human. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: You might as well deny that dog breeds exist; that's just as fucking stupid. You know dog breeds are man made, right? Same process as speciation though, favorable traits are bred, unfavorable ones removed from the line. Just replace nature with human. |
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How many BREEDS of humans are there. That is the question. Pure Bree's offspring breed true, hybrids produce random mixed offspring. Though we almost certainly all evolved from Africanis, geographical isolation has created separate breeds, just like every other species.
The problem is that it is politically incorrect to discuss races as breeds, or as different (we are all supposed to be "equal"). Clearly we are not all the same. Each breed has strengths and weaknesses, which we should learn to use to our advantage instead of calling anyone who points out a difference a racist. So basically, any established group of people is a breed. Some breeds, like Asians, have obvious varieties, like Japanese vs. Chinese or Mongolian, but I suspect they would be considered the same breed. Why does it seem we spend so much time investigating animals and plants, but not ourselves? I'd love to learn more about our breeds. So my guess is roughly: 1) African / Black 2) Asian / Yellow 3) European / White 4) Native American (including South American) / Red |
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How many BREEDS of humans are there. That is the question. Pure Bree's offspring breed true, hybrids produce random mixed offspring. Though we almost certainly all evolved from Africanis, geographical isolation has created separate breeds, just like every other species. The problem is that it is politically incorrect to discuss races as breeds, or as different (we are all supposed to be "equal"). Clearly we are not all the same. Each breed has strengths and weaknesses, which we should learn to use to our advantage instead of calling anyone who points out a difference a racist. So basically, any established group of people is a breed. Some breeds, like Asians, have obvious varieties, like Japanese vs. Chinese or Mongolian, but I suspect they would be considered the same breed. Why does it seem we spend so much time investigating animals and plants, but not ourselves? I'd love to learn more about our breeds. View Quote Actually - Africans are the only pure breed humans. Europeans and the rest are Neanderthal hybrids. |
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