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Posted: 11/23/2014 10:10:08 AM EDT
[#1]
As a reloader, I'm too lazy to put that much work into making that brass. I don't have a can, so there's that too. |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 10:12:21 AM EDT
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I wouldn't do it again. I haven't fired my 300BLK in probably two years. Yes it's quiet. But so is my suppressed 9mm AR with subsonics, which is way cheaper to shoot. I would also rather shoot a 5.56 AR with a suppressor. Yeah it's louder, but still quiet enough, and again much cheaper. Any of my other options still puts a hole in paper. And I am set up for reloading 300BLK.
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Posted: 11/23/2014 10:12:28 AM EDT
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As a reloader, I'm too lazy to put that much work into making that brass. I don't have a can, so there's that too. same |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 10:14:33 AM EDT
[#4]
I have an appreciation for the caliber.
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Posted: 11/23/2014 10:14:55 AM EDT
[#5]
Yes. Making your own 300 BO brass from fired .223 cases and reloading makes it much more fun. I find the brass doesn't stretch and it seems like the cases will last forever almost like reloading .45 acp.
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Posted: 11/23/2014 10:17:45 AM EDT
[#6]
Unless ammo gets cheaper I'm not interested.
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Posted: 11/23/2014 10:18:33 AM EDT
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Unless ammo gets cheaper I'm not interested. Kinda where I'm at. |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 10:20:17 AM EDT
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I reload, so I am happy with it. I don't burn piles of it of course, but it is a pretty versatile round
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Posted: 11/23/2014 10:23:50 AM EDT
[#9]
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I have an appreciation for the caliber. Me too. Although I don't have a can, or have shot any subsonics....yet, It performs well for a nice, lightweight semi auto hunting rifle for deer and hogs. |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 10:24:07 AM EDT
[#10]
I have mine for two main reasons. I can hunt with it in a pistol, and I cast bullets, so it is cheap to shoot. I have more time than money, and casting/reloading is a hobby as much as the shooting is.
The lead bullets are lot easier on our steel plates, and i can shoot a lot more for the same money. If you don't reload, then wanting a quiet subsonic specialty round is the main draw. Or if you want a hunting round bigger than a .22 for states that require it. But you have to pay more for ammo. For me, as a reloader, it was worth the investment as a hunting rig I can shoot cheap. |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 10:25:10 AM EDT
[#11]
I'd not buy it again for sure.
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Posted: 11/23/2014 10:27:30 AM EDT
[#12]
I use mine with 125gr supers for deer.
I was going to build a subsonic 8" pistol or SBR, but the cost of heavy 30cal projectiles steared me away. |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 10:28:23 AM EDT
[#13]
I sold the one I had; just wasn't all that impressed with it.
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Posted: 11/23/2014 10:28:30 AM EDT
[#14]
I have four built, 2 extra barrels, and a few lowers. I might put a few more together, who knows?. I bought my first just after they came out and bought a bunch of ammo then too. I think it's great for the purposes I use it for.
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Posted: 11/23/2014 10:28:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes. Making your own 300 BO brass from fired .223 cases and reloading makes it much more fun. I find the brass doesn't stretch and it seems like the cases will last forever almost like reloading .45 acp. Agreed, but I'm mostly loading subsonics right now. Same for supers? For anyone that already preps rifle brass, converting .223 to 300blk is really only one more step and an easy one at that. The cheap mini chopsaw and a jig makes quick work of cutting the cases down to close to the proper length - maybe 3 secs a case if setup properly. Then just resize and trim as normal. The CTS trimmers are priced right and work quick IMO for anything I load a lot of like .223 or 300blk (WFT work good too).
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Posted: 11/23/2014 10:29:01 AM EDT
[#16]
Not really new. IIRC Twenty years ago it was called 300 Whisper.
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Posted: 11/23/2014 10:30:55 AM EDT
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For those of us that reload and have suppressors, its a very sweet deal. Brass is available and the various powders are out there.
I still think it is a very multi-purpose round that is easily adaptable over a wide range of applications , offering excellent performance over other calibers. I built a pistol that will do what many other weapons cannot. If there is one gun to reach for, this may be it. Ammo is coming down in price and I am seeing it on the shelves now in many places. Many of us .300 Blackout fans have been loading and purchasing for a couple years now, and my current supplies will easily sustain me using it for years. Nobody said this hobby is cheap and I love these cool little rounds. For the plinkers that want to do it cheap, this is not your deal. For the folks that want adequate power midrange and versatility that exceeds other rounds, this is your next step up. What gets hit, goes down. |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 10:40:40 AM EDT
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I love it and just bought my second upper. I've wanted to get into reloading for sometime and this got me into it. I've never been the biggest have of 223, so I love shooting this bigger bullet. It's so versital in many situations. I don't have a can yet but that was my main reason to buy I to it. With a can and shooting subs I'll be able to shoot at my dads with him. I'm kind of getting him into guns and teaching him about them. We lives to shoot but would never go to a range so it will be great to do it at his place. It's also great out of shorter barrels.
The only downside is ammo price. But I'm seeing it on shelves all over and I think it will come down. We just need more people shooting it! Buy in!! |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 10:45:13 AM EDT
[#19]
I just did. I sold the 16" and put together an 8.5"
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Posted: 11/23/2014 10:46:09 AM EDT
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In my opinion the 300BLK is another boring boutique round. Yawn.
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Posted: 11/23/2014 10:48:17 AM EDT
[#21]
Myths that I had busted with 300 blk
-it is not 762x51 in a small package (this is what everyone who had one at work kept telling me), I think it's a smaller, lighter 458 SOCOM in terms of how far you can throw it -you won't be able to plug and play, get some new buffers and springs and some range time -adding a can affects the above -accuracy issues with some kinds of ammo (for me it was the Wally World Remington) -ammo is not "readily available AND cheap" you'll have to learn to reload, reloads are tricky to dial in and you'll probably have malfs until you set everything up -it's not the "hog killer" it's been advertised as. At least two bigger 300 pound hogs were still alive and kicking With that said, a silenced 10" SBR with 300 blk is a sweet shooting gun once you get it working. |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 10:50:17 AM EDT
[#22]
Ammo has been getting cheaper. I am routinely finding UMC and other cheaper rounds for 70 cents a round. With a 30 cal suppressor and a single set of dies I can shoot really quiet, which is a good capability to have.
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Posted: 11/23/2014 10:55:55 AM EDT
[#23]
I'd definitively do it again.
My 300 blackout with a 10.5" Rainier Arms Ultra Match barrel has been incredibly accurate for me- more so than my 5.56 out to a certain range of course The price of the ammo isn't that great but it's cheaper than 308, usually! |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 10:56:11 AM EDT
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in the middle of building mine
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Posted: 11/23/2014 10:57:29 AM EDT
[#25]
It sucks
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Posted: 11/23/2014 10:59:21 AM EDT
[#26]
Well, I went with a 9" SBR and a suppressor. So it is pretty cool in that setup as it is quiet like a suppressed .22LR but it hits harder, and you can step up to Krinkov level ballistics with a mag change. If you reload, it uses readily available components - .223 brass and .308 bullets.
Downsides? Well, I appreciate what a flat shooting cartridge 5.56 is a lot more now. With 5.56, I usually don't even worry about what ammo I zeroed with under 300yds; because anything 5.56 will be close enough. With .300 BLK from a 9" barrel, you get some dramatic point of impact shifts just by changing rounds (and I'm not just talking sonic to subsonic either). So trying to remember which holdover goes with which zero for each type of ammo is like doing calculus in your head (for me anyway). And if you don't reload, your choices are cheapish ($0.38-$0.60/rd) blasting ammo that doesn't match either subsonics or premium hunting/self-defense ammo for trajectory, or you shoot the premium stuff at $1 a round. I think I am still on the fence at the moment; but it is giggle like a schoolgirl quiet. Of course, so is my .22LR with suppressor and it is a lot cheaper to plink with. |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 11:03:30 AM EDT
[#27]
Yes.
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Posted: 11/23/2014 11:14:05 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
As a reloader, I'm too lazy to put that much work into making that brass. I don't have a can, so there's that too. I've seen bulk .300 Blackout brass (converted from 5.56) at Cabela's, and there's a few guys on the EE that sell it in bulk as well. You can save a little bit by making it yourself but it's no longer necessary to do so. |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 11:21:55 AM EDT
[#29]
Just stick to 7.62x39..... that's all 300blk is anyways, just the western rendition of it. Yeah, takes funky mags in an AR but once you get the kinks worked out, it just goes
Or you could just get an AK/VZ/Sig/Vepr/SKS and run with it..... 
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Posted: 11/23/2014 11:26:13 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just stick to 7.62x39..... that's all 300blk is anyways, just the western rendition of it. Yeah, takes funky mags in an AR but once you get the kinks worked out, it just goes Or you could just get an AK/VZ/Sig/Vepr/SKS and run with it.....  |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 11:27:00 AM EDT
[#31]
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As a reloader, I'm too lazy to put that much work into making that brass. snip. Quote HistoryQuoted:
As a reloader, I'm too lazy to put that much work into making that brass. snip. plus Quoted:
Unless ammo gets cheaper I'm not interested. Plus I already have an SBR that I like. |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 11:27:27 AM EDT
[#32]
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I wouldn't do it again. I haven't fired my 300BLK in probably two years. Yes it's quiet. I would also rather shoot a 5.56 AR with a suppressor. Yeah it's louder, but still quiet enough, and again much cheaper. Any of my other options still puts a hole in paper. And I am set up for reloading 300BLK. Same. It's quiet but meh. The novelty wore off real fast and the cost to produce brass, reload a 30 cal bullet etc is a turn off to me. I don't hunt so it's really of no use to me. Just puts a bigger hole in paper and costs more to do. |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 11:27:41 AM EDT
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Myths that I had busted with 300 blk -it is not 762x51 in a small package (this is what everyone who had one at work kept telling me), I think it's a smaller, lighter 458 SOCOM in terms of how far you can throw it -you won't be able to plug and play, get some new buffers and springs and some range time -adding a can affects the above -accuracy issues with some kinds of ammo (for me it was the Wally World Remington) -ammo is not "readily available AND cheap" you'll have to learn to reload, reloads are tricky to dial in and you'll probably have malfs until you set everything up -it's not the "hog killer" it's been advertised as. At least two bigger 300 pound hogs were still alive and kicking With that said, a silenced 10" SBR with 300 blk is a sweet shooting gun once you get it working. Every one of your issues could have been avoided by doing 10 minutes of research . |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 11:30:01 AM EDT
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If you can reload 556, then 300blk is no different, assuming you are not doing this on a single stage
It takes me the same amount of steps/time to convert 556 to 300 as it does processing once fired LC Dillon 650 556 In goes brass resize/deprime Trim out goes brass 556 --> 300 in goes brass deprime size and trim to 300 out goes brass So easy even I can do it. $50 LC once fired brass, and the shit brass I used to toss that is no good for 556 works perfect when turned into 300, even blanks have a use now. 2x 10.5" and a 16" AR(assembled with cheap easily obtained parts), really was plug and play, no change in buffer or spring or even adjustable gas blocks, they just run Adding a can has had a HUGE effect, a grin ear to ear, subs run with or without the can. Accuracy, hits what I aim at, but I don't and have not ever bought any factory ammo, why when I can make subs for $.12 a piece?, super for the same if i cast them? 300 is for reloaders, if your a Flavor of the month buyer you are doing it wrong I am a noob reloading, and with over 10 different 300 loads in subs and supers and even learning casting on it I have had NO dialing in issues with it at all except for getting speeds in the right place. Use the proper powders and spend some time on 300blktalk.com If you do not reload, or don't have stoopid amounts of cash, then you probably should not be playing with any niche round..... ever  This would be pointless if I didn't reload.
And all my 556 are getting lonely as they rarely get time in the yard anymore. |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 11:30:53 AM EDT
[#35]
I haven't been able to find any H110 or AA1680, so that is a real downer.
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Posted: 11/23/2014 11:32:41 AM EDT
[#36]
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As a reloader, I'm too lazy to put that much work into making that brass. I don't have a can, so there's that too. I have to agree. It really was a lot of work, for very little reward. Sold upper, dies, and trimmer to same buyer and never looked back. |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 11:32:57 AM EDT
[#37]
IMR4198 works real good and there is load data for it.
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Posted: 11/23/2014 11:34:12 AM EDT
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Yes. Considering ammo is getting cheaper and expanding subsonic are coming online I agree. Also considering all I have invested is a $100 barrel it it well worth it. |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 11:34:23 AM EDT
[#39]
Meh, I think that I'll pass on it.
I don't reload (don't have room in my current house) I shoot a lot (don't want to shoot $1/rd ammo out of a semi auto) Sorry, but it's not you 300BO, it's me.
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Posted: 11/23/2014 11:34:35 AM EDT
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Me too. Although I don't have a can, or have shot any subsonics....yet, It performs well for a nice, lightweight semi auto hunting rifle for deer and hogs. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have an appreciation for the caliber. Me too. Although I don't have a can, or have shot any subsonics....yet, It performs well for a nice, lightweight semi auto hunting rifle for deer and hogs. So, why not 6.x for much better ballistics? |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 11:35:33 AM EDT
[#41]
I'd do it again.
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Posted: 11/23/2014 11:36:58 AM EDT
[#42]
I have one but I don't shoot it as much as I used to, I prefer my 7.62x39
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Posted: 11/23/2014 11:37:27 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So, why not 6.x for much better ballistics? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I have an appreciation for the caliber. Me too. Although I don't have a can, or have shot any subsonics....yet, It performs well for a nice, lightweight semi auto hunting rifle for deer and hogs. So, why not 6.x for much better ballistics? |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 12:01:09 PM EDT
[#44]
I would like to get into it.
I have a quantity of .300 Whisper brass I bought years ago but never really did the gun. I have a .30 can I have lowers registered as SBRs I am a long time handloader. I don't care about the price of the ammo. I like to play around with new stuff. I get bored with owning and/or doing the same old thing. I see factory ammo on the shelves for whatever that is worth. Weather permitting, I go to the rifle range a few times a week. A typical rifle shooting session for me is 40 rounds. I don't just spray ammo down range. |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 12:02:27 PM EDT
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Never fell for the hype as most new things are. Just like 5.7 round and many other weapons (ACR, FN2000...).
I wait at least 1 or 2 years before getting into the new stuff just to see if its worth it and I wait for the price to come down. I can afford most weapons and ammo I just don't like throwing money away for a fad. |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 12:04:57 PM EDT
[#46]
As a reloader who makes his own brass (from spent .223) with an SBR'd Suppressed .300 blk?
I would absolutely do it again. As a matter of fact, I have a lower sitting in my safe right now that is gonna be another .300blk when it grows up. |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 12:10:09 PM EDT
[#47]
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Just stick to 7.62x39..... that's all 300blk is anyways, just the western rendition of it. Yeah, takes funky mags in an AR but once you get the kinks worked out, it just goes Or you could just get an AK/VZ/Sig/Vepr/SKS and run with it..... .300blk obsoletes 7.62x39 and causes the AR to render the AK platform obsolete. |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 12:15:04 PM EDT
[#48]
I'm not getting into the 300 game. It would be like my experience with 6.8 SPC. Shoot it sparingly, than almost never due to the cost of ammo.
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Posted: 11/23/2014 12:29:21 PM EDT
[#49]
It's a good round for its intended purpose, but in 10 years it will just be added to the long list of forgotten alternate caliber rounds developed for the AR15.
to answer the question, YES I would do it again, reason is AR15's are a large part of my firearm hobby & I like to try all variants, So the 300BO will be added to the pile of alternative AR caliber uppers I own & play with. I must admit that .458 SOCOM is still my favorite ?? alternate AR caliber. |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 12:31:48 PM EDT
[#50]
I like the 6.8 better |
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