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Posted: 11/21/2014 12:55:21 PM EDT
[#1]
Fuck Troy.
Sorry, just had to. |
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Posted: 11/21/2014 12:57:01 PM EDT
[#2]
Fpni
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Posted: 11/21/2014 12:57:54 PM EDT
[#3]
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Fuck Troy. Sorry, just had to. Lol, I just wasn't gonna be one of those OPs that says "in before...." |
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Posted: 11/21/2014 12:58:12 PM EDT
[#4]
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Fuck Troy. Sorry, just had to. FUCK TROY. With a cactus. |
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Posted: 11/21/2014 12:59:26 PM EDT
[#5]
I wouldn't touch it for $5.99 shipped.
Fuck troy |
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Posted: 11/21/2014 1:00:57 PM EDT
[#6]
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Fuck Troy. Sorry, just had to. |
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Posted: 11/21/2014 1:01:52 PM EDT
[#7]
Sorry, I just can't do it.
Great deal though. |
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Posted: 11/21/2014 1:02:10 PM EDT
[#8]
Seriously, SERIOUSLY want that 14.5" pinned, but fuck troy.
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Posted: 11/21/2014 1:02:18 PM EDT
[#9]
I find the direction this thread is going agreeable.
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Posted: 11/21/2014 1:02:50 PM EDT
[#10]
That sounds like a great deal
 I need one of those troy pump action rifles and a smith and wesson with a lock
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Posted: 11/21/2014 1:03:00 PM EDT
[#11]
In before....
Ah, shoot. FPNI |
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Posted: 11/21/2014 1:03:43 PM EDT
[#12]
Fuck Troy.
But, that is a seriously insane deal. Stock is fugly, though.
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Posted: 11/21/2014 1:04:10 PM EDT
[#13]
There is no way a true American would want to own a rifle with our parasite's flag on it.
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Posted: 11/21/2014 1:04:29 PM EDT
[#14]
Okim missing something, can someone explain why people are saying fuck troy?
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Posted: 11/21/2014 1:05:30 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Okim missing something, can someone explain why people are saying fuck troy? |
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Posted: 11/21/2014 1:05:40 PM EDT
[#16]
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Okim missing something, can someone explain why people are saying fuck troy? Interesting first post. To clarify, you've been here for almost a year and you've not heard the backstory? Yer slackin'. 
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Posted: 11/21/2014 1:05:51 PM EDT
[#17]
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Okim missing something, can someone explain why people are saying fuck troy? They hired guys who we feel murdered members of the Weaver family in the Ruby Ridge incident roughly 20 years ago. |
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Posted: 11/21/2014 1:06:45 PM EDT
[#18]
I just bought one, can not pass that deal up. |
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Posted: 11/21/2014 1:07:04 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There is no way a true American would want to own a rifle with our parasite's flag on it. |
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Posted: 11/21/2014 1:07:05 PM EDT
[#20]
They pinned and welded the 16"
 is that a Canada req?
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Posted: 11/21/2014 1:07:40 PM EDT
[#21]
They still owe me my $799 Dick's rifle from 2 years ago.
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Posted: 11/21/2014 1:07:52 PM EDT
[#22]
We thank everyone for their opinions on Dale Monroe. We are still reviewing Mr. Monroe’s relationship with Troy Asymmetric and are looking in to the claims that are being made online. We have reviewed the 1995 Ruby Ridge Congressional testimony and found at 1:42:35 of the taping, it is indeed Ed Wenger who says he would have shot, had Special Agent Horiuchi not shot first.http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/67153-1 The attribution of the statement on gunssavelife.com to Mr. Monroe is incorrect. After reviewing the testimony, we are confident that you, too, will find that it is indeed Wenger that made the statement, not Monroe. Monroe was an FBI HRT member assigned a mission which turned tragic. We are saddened by the events at Ruby Ridge and recognize the significance of the tragedy. If you’ve never worn a uniform, you might not understand why Monroe was in the situation he was in, but if you have worn a uniform, you know how it is to follow orders in a fluid situation. We’re weighing a difficult decision with many facets and things to consider. One thing we know for sure: Mr. Monroe did not state that he would have fired first. We do hope you will take the time to review all of the available materials on Ruby Ridge and Dale Monroe, and welcome your comments, as they will most certainly help us to reach a final, informed decision. |
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Posted: 11/21/2014 1:07:54 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Seriously, SERIOUSLY want that 14.5" pinned, but fuck troy. I'm sitting on four complete lowers. If that was a $400 upper sale, I'd be clawing my eyes out with a serious moral dilemma.
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Posted: 11/21/2014 1:08:08 PM EDT
[#24]
the red part is new to me
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Posted: 11/21/2014 1:08:23 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I just bought one, can not pass that deal up. |
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Posted: 11/21/2014 1:08:31 PM EDT
[#26]
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They hired guyswho are 100% ok with the shot on Vicky Weaver and would have taken it himself who we feel murdered members of the Weaver family in the Ruby Ridge incident roughly 20 years ago. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Okim missing something, can someone explain why people are saying fuck troy? They hired guyswho are 100% ok with the shot on Vicky Weaver and would have taken it himself who we feel murdered members of the Weaver family in the Ruby Ridge incident roughly 20 years ago. Fixed. Those are the words of the man Troy hired. Go ahead and support them if you want to, but once Troy found out he had said this they stuck with their man. Fuck them. |
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Posted: 11/21/2014 1:09:06 PM EDT
[#27]
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We thank everyone for their opinions on Dale Monroe. We are still reviewing Mr. Monroe’s relationship with Troy Asymmetric and are looking in to the claims that are being made online. We have reviewed the 1995 Ruby Ridge Congressional testimony and found at 1:42:35 of the taping, it is indeed Ed Wenger who says he would have shot, had Special Agent Horiuchi not shot first.http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/67153-1 The attribution of the statement on gunssavelife.com to Mr. Monroe is incorrect. After reviewing the testimony, we are confident that you, too, will find that it is indeed Wenger that made the statement, not Monroe. Monroe was an FBI HRT member assigned a mission which turned tragic. We are saddened by the events at Ruby Ridge and recognize the significance of the tragedy. If you’ve never worn a uniform, you might not understand why Monroe was in the situation he was in, but if you have worn a uniform, you know how it is to follow orders in a fluid situation. We’re weighing a difficult decision with many facets and things to consider. One thing we know for sure: Mr. Monroe did not state that he would have fired first. We do hope you will take the time to review all of the available materials on Ruby Ridge and Dale Monroe, and welcome your comments, as they will most certainly help us to reach a final, informed decision. What would I expect them to say. |
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Posted: 11/21/2014 1:10:04 PM EDT
[#28]
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Fuck Troy. Sorry, just had to. It's utterly amazing now the FPNI. |
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Posted: 11/21/2014 1:10:08 PM EDT
[#29]
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Fixed. Those are the words of the man Troy hired. Go ahead and support them if you want to, but once Troy found out he had said this they stuck with their man. Fuck them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Okim missing something, can someone explain why people are saying fuck troy? They hired guyswho are 100% ok with the shot on Vicky Weaver and would have taken it himself who we feel murdered members of the Weaver family in the Ruby Ridge incident roughly 20 years ago. Fixed. Those are the words of the man Troy hired. Go ahead and support them if you want to, but once Troy found out he had said this they stuck with their man. Fuck them. Not good...........NOT good at all. 
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Posted: 11/21/2014 1:10:14 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What would I expect them to say. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We thank everyone for their opinions on Dale Monroe. We are still reviewing Mr. Monroe’s relationship with Troy Asymmetric and are looking in to the claims that are being made online. We have reviewed the 1995 Ruby Ridge Congressional testimony and found at 1:42:35 of the taping, it is indeed Ed Wenger who says he would have shot, had Special Agent Horiuchi not shot first.http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/67153-1 The attribution of the statement on gunssavelife.com to Mr. Monroe is incorrect. After reviewing the testimony, we are confident that you, too, will find that it is indeed Wenger that made the statement, not Monroe. Monroe was an FBI HRT member assigned a mission which turned tragic. We are saddened by the events at Ruby Ridge and recognize the significance of the tragedy. If you’ve never worn a uniform, you might not understand why Monroe was in the situation he was in, but if you have worn a uniform, you know how it is to follow orders in a fluid situation. We’re weighing a difficult decision with many facets and things to consider. One thing we know for sure: Mr. Monroe did not state that he would have fired first. We do hope you will take the time to review all of the available materials on Ruby Ridge and Dale Monroe, and welcome your comments, as they will most certainly help us to reach a final, informed decision. What would I expect them to say. |
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Posted: 11/21/2014 1:10:24 PM EDT
[#31]
Nope
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Posted: 11/21/2014 1:10:59 PM EDT
[#32]
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What would I expect them to say. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We thank everyone for their opinions on Dale Monroe. We are still reviewing Mr. Monroe’s relationship with Troy Asymmetric and are looking in to the claims that are being made online. We have reviewed the 1995 Ruby Ridge Congressional testimony and found at 1:42:35 of the taping, it is indeed Ed Wenger who says he would have shot, had Special Agent Horiuchi not shot first.http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/67153-1 The attribution of the statement on gunssavelife.com to Mr. Monroe is incorrect. After reviewing the testimony, we are confident that you, too, will find that it is indeed Wenger that made the statement, not Monroe. Monroe was an FBI HRT member assigned a mission which turned tragic. We are saddened by the events at Ruby Ridge and recognize the significance of the tragedy. If you’ve never worn a uniform, you might not understand why Monroe was in the situation he was in, but if you have worn a uniform, you know how it is to follow orders in a fluid situation. We’re weighing a difficult decision with many facets and things to consider. One thing we know for sure: Mr. Monroe did not state that he would have fired first. We do hope you will take the time to review all of the available materials on Ruby Ridge and Dale Monroe, and welcome your comments, as they will most certainly help us to reach a final, informed decision. What would I expect them to say. We don't know. You would have to tell us |
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Posted: 11/21/2014 1:11:18 PM EDT
[#33]
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................... How many people parroting "fuck troy!" do you think listened to the c span tape? I don't know. |
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Posted: 11/21/2014 1:13:15 PM EDT
[#34]
what does pinned and welded mean?
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Posted: 11/21/2014 1:14:18 PM EDT
[#35]
It was Ed Wenger who made that comment on the C span at that point.
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Posted: 11/21/2014 1:15:50 PM EDT
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.................. We don't know. You would have to tell us I wouldn't expect them to say it was a bad shoot and people were killed unnecessarily. |
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Posted: 11/21/2014 1:16:10 PM EDT
[#37]
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what does pinned and welded mean? It means that the threaded on muzzle device has been made permanently affixed by inserting a pin and further welded. It can both make a 14.5" barreled gun 16" in length and mitigates the requirement that a barrel not be threaded in some jurisdictions Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 11/21/2014 1:19:09 PM EDT
[#38]
WHY DON'T THEY JUST FUCKING FIRE HIM FFS?
His connection to RR is enough for me. I don't care how small. If he was there and not saying "this is totally fucked, I'm not going to be a part of it, bai" fuck him. Fuck them all. Period. DGAF if he was the damn water boy. Fuck him. |
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Posted: 11/21/2014 1:19:14 PM EDT
[#39]
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It was Ed Wenger who made that comment on the C span at that point. GD don't like no facts once their all worked up into a froth. |
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Posted: 11/21/2014 1:20:16 PM EDT
[#40]
That butt stock looks like a snow shovel, appropriately enough.
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Posted: 11/21/2014 1:22:38 PM EDT
[#41]
I just bought eight of those!
Thanks OP!
Actually, I didn't but if I had the cash I would. |
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Posted: 11/21/2014 1:22:48 PM EDT
[#42]
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We thank everyone for their opinions on Dale Monroe. We are still reviewing Mr. Monroe’s relationship with Troy Asymmetric and are looking in to the claims that are being made online. We have reviewed the 1995 Ruby Ridge Congressional testimony and found at 1:42:35 of the taping, it is indeed Ed Wenger who says he would have shot, had Special Agent Horiuchi not shot first.http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/67153-1 The attribution of the statement on gunssavelife.com to Mr. Monroe is incorrect. After reviewing the testimony, we are confident that you, too, will find that it is indeed Wenger that made the statement, not Monroe. Monroe was an FBI HRT member assigned a mission which turned tragic. We are saddened by the events at Ruby Ridge and recognize the significance of the tragedy. If you’ve never worn a uniform, you might not understand why Monroe was in the situation he was in, but if you have worn a uniform, you know how it is to follow orders in a fluid situation. We’re weighing a difficult decision with many facets and things to consider. One thing we know for sure: Mr. Monroe did not state that he would have fired first. We do hope you will take the time to review all of the available materials on Ruby Ridge and Dale Monroe, and welcome your comments, as they will most certainly help us to reach a final, informed decision. Quote HistoryQuoted:
We thank everyone for their opinions on Dale Monroe. We are still reviewing Mr. Monroe’s relationship with Troy Asymmetric and are looking in to the claims that are being made online. We have reviewed the 1995 Ruby Ridge Congressional testimony and found at 1:42:35 of the taping, it is indeed Ed Wenger who says he would have shot, had Special Agent Horiuchi not shot first.http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/67153-1 The attribution of the statement on gunssavelife.com to Mr. Monroe is incorrect. After reviewing the testimony, we are confident that you, too, will find that it is indeed Wenger that made the statement, not Monroe. Monroe was an FBI HRT member assigned a mission which turned tragic. We are saddened by the events at Ruby Ridge and recognize the significance of the tragedy. If you’ve never worn a uniform, you might not understand why Monroe was in the situation he was in, but if you have worn a uniform, you know how it is to follow orders in a fluid situation. We’re weighing a difficult decision with many facets and things to consider. One thing we know for sure: Mr. Monroe did not state that he would have fired first. We do hope you will take the time to review all of the available materials on Ruby Ridge and Dale Monroe, and welcome your comments, as they will most certainly help us to reach a final, informed decision. At 1:03:30 in the video at the link, Dale Monroe believes both shots were justified.
At 2:16:50 in the video, Dale Monroe says he would have taken the shot if he would had the ability to take an accurate shot at the time. |
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Posted: 11/21/2014 1:24:16 PM EDT
[#43]
I believe Aimless.
Anybody want to make some money on a loan? |
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Posted: 11/21/2014 1:24:25 PM EDT
[#44]
Damn, I might have to pick one up. The "Northern Guard" on the lower is badass
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Posted: 11/21/2014 1:26:05 PM EDT
[#45]
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I believe Aimless. Anybody want to make some money on a loan? Aimless simply posted Troy's misleading statement. Troy tells the truth about who said those very words then, but Dale said the same thing in two places. Even more reason to fuck Troy, they'll lie and obfuscate in an attempt to save face and keep their boy. |
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Posted: 11/21/2014 1:26:09 PM EDT
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Monroe does later say that if he had been able to take an accurate shot, which I think pretty clearly does not involve shooting Vicky Weaver, he would have based on what he knew at the time. However the newspaper quote you usually see people referring to: Dale R. Monroe, the partner of FBI hostage rescue team leader Lon Horiuchi – who fired the fatal shot – said he was preparing to fire but didn’t only because Horiuchi fired first.
Is completely inaccurate, Monroe did not say that, Wenger did
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Posted: 11/21/2014 1:26:49 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Aimless simply posted Troy's misleading statement. Troy tells the truth about who said those very words then, but Dale said the same thing in two places. Even more reason to fuck Troy, they'll lie and obfuscate in an attempt to save face and keep their boy. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I believe Aimless. Anybody want to make some money on a loan? Aimless simply posted Troy's misleading statement. Troy tells the truth about who said those very words then, but Dale said the same thing in two places. Even more reason to fuck Troy, they'll lie and obfuscate in an attempt to save face and keep their boy. |
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Posted: 11/21/2014 1:27:34 PM EDT
[#48]
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Damn, I might have to pick one up. The "Northern Guard" on the lower is badass Agreed.
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Posted: 11/21/2014 1:28:28 PM EDT
[#49]
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- Troy statement - Monroe was an FBI HRT member assigned a mission which turned tragic. We are saddened by the events at Ruby Ridge and recognize the significance of the tragedy. If you’ve never worn a uniform, you might not understand why Monroe was in the situation he was in, but if you have worn a uniform, you know how it is to follow orders in a fluid situation. We’re weighing a difficult decision with many facets and things to consider. One thing we know for sure: Mr. Monroe did not state that he would have fired first. We do hope you will take the time to review all of the available materials on Ruby Ridge and Dale Monroe, and welcome your comments, as they will most certainly help us to reach a final, informed decision. 
There are a lot of people who've been in a lot of uniforms who are very skeptical of the conduct of authorities at Ruby Ridge. The sentence there is cleverly crafted to dismiss anyone not profeshunul enough's opinions... and to insinuate that anyone who's worn a uniform would simply "follow orders" to the same conclusion. Troy could've solved the whole issue by putting his hiring on hold and reviewing it before he joined their company, as well as not doing the obfuscations about their training branch not really being part of the company and them having no control over it. ETA: At this point it's almost more about their response to customer concerns. |
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Posted: 11/21/2014 1:28:50 PM EDT
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Um, not really. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I believe Aimless. Anybody want to make some money on a loan? Aimless simply posted Troy's misleading statement. Troy tells the truth about who said those very words then, but Dale said the same thing in two places. Even more reason to fuck Troy, they'll lie and obfuscate in an attempt to save face and keep their boy. I'm looking at the video right now. At 1:03:30 Dale say's both shots were justified. Really. |
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