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Posted: 10/30/2014 12:20:14 PM EDT
My old Keurig finally died, went to order a new one and see most of them are now DRM! WTF, for a coffee maker?
 I know they make most of their money on coffee, but there are so many other companies making k-cups now days that are better.
Anyway, what company makes a good k-cup coffee maker that doesn't involve DRM? |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 12:21:37 PM EDT
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A member here did a hack by cutting the scanned portion of the cup off an "official" k-cup and pasting it over the DRM-scanning eye. Pretty nice workaround. (Coffee wants to be free!
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Posted: 10/30/2014 12:23:04 PM EDT
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A member here did a hack by cutting the scanned portion of the cup off an "official" k-cup and pasting it over the DRM-scanning eye. Pretty nice workaround. (Coffee wants to be free! )Yeah, I don't want to mess with that. Fuck Keurig for this bullshit, I won't buy shit from them again. |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 12:23:29 PM EDT
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Cut and paste ftmfw!!
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Posted: 10/30/2014 12:24:05 PM EDT
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Lots of youtube on this.
Bought one of the new one's at costco the other day. Wife bought some of the generic K-cups that you can fill with your own blend. Brewed up a couple cups of the "NEW" Stuff. Took a sharp razor knife, and cut the rim off the old/used K-cups..... Hot glued the old used rim to the top of the refillable cups.... WORKS GREAT...... |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 12:25:16 PM EDT
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DRM
From Wiki Digital Rights Management (DRM) is a class of technologies[1] that are used by hardware manufacturers, publishers, copyright holders, and individuals with the intent to control the use of digital content and devices after sale;[1][2][3] there are, however, many competing definitions.[4] With first-generation DRM software, the intent is to control copying; with second-generation DRM, the intent is to control executing, viewing, copying, printing, and altering of works or devices. The term is also sometimes referred to as copy protection, copy prevention, and copy control, although the correctness of apply DRM is in dispute.[5] DRM is a set of access control technologies.[6][7] In 1998, the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) was passed in the United States to impose criminal penalties on those who make available technologies whose primary purpose and function are to circumvent content protection technologies. 
The use of digital rights management is not universally accepted. Some content providers claim that DRM is necessary to fight copyright infringement and that it can help the copyright holder maintain artistic control[9] or ensure continued revenue streams.[10] Proponents argue that digital locks should be considered necessary to prevent "intellectual property" from being copied freely, just as physical locks are needed to prevent personal property from being stolen.[11] Those opposed to DRM contend there is no evidence that DRM helps prevent copyright infringement, arguing instead that it serves only to inconvenience legitimate customers, and that DRM helps big business stifle innovation and competition.[12] Furthermore, works can become permanently inaccessible if the DRM scheme changes or if the service is discontinued |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 12:25:25 PM EDT
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They're trying to maintain market share of the coffee. A quick google search shows companies selling cheaper "cups" that crack the DRM code
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Posted: 10/30/2014 12:26:37 PM EDT
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Lots of youtube on this. Bought one of the new one's at costco the other day. Wife bought some of the generic K-cups that you can fill with your own blend. Brewed up a couple cups of the "NEW" Stuff. Took a sharp razor knife, and cut the rim off the old/used K-cups..... Hot glued the old used rim to the top of the refillable cups.... WORKS GREAT...... Thanks...bought 2.0 this week for Christmas present. I wanted to use the refillable cup. |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 12:27:11 PM EDT
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Pretty much had to see this coming...
Capitalists gonna capitalize. 
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Posted: 10/30/2014 12:27:22 PM EDT
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Get a French Press and be done with it. In away I feel sorry for some of you because you won't be able to brew coffee when the electricity is cut after the zombies attack. Then again, I'll be the sole supplier of brewed coffee in my AO and a Warlord with an army of caffeine addicts at my disposal.   |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 12:27:35 PM EDT
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I didn't know about the DRM until reading this thread.
I love my Keurig, but once it's dead I'm done. |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 12:29:24 PM EDT
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They're trying to maintain market share of the coffee. A quick google search shows companies selling cheaper "cups" that crack the DRM code I don't want them to even get money for the machine after pulling this shit...there are several makers that use k-cups, just wondering which is best. Funny thing is, I used to order most of my coffee from the keurig website...I have enough points to get 50% off any of their brewers. 
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Posted: 10/30/2014 12:30:57 PM EDT
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I didn't know about the DRM until reading this thread. I love my Keurig, but once it's dead I'm done. Same here, I've had my eye on a Bunn, I'll have to see if they're in on this DRM crap. |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 12:31:12 PM EDT
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Get a French Press and be done with it. In away I feel sorry for some of you because you won't be able to brew coffee when the electricity is cut after the zombies attack. Then again, I'll be the sole supplier of brewed coffee in my AO and a Warlord with an army of caffeine addicts at my disposal.
I've got this for the apocalypse! 
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Posted: 10/30/2014 12:33:42 PM EDT
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I don't want them to even get money for the machine after pulling this shit...there are several makers that use k-cups, just wondering which is best. Funny thing is, I used to order most of my coffee from the keurig website...I have enough points to get 50% off any of their brewers. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They're trying to maintain market share of the coffee. A quick google search shows companies selling cheaper "cups" that crack the DRM code I don't want them to even get money for the machine after pulling this shit...there are several makers that use k-cups, just wondering which is best. Funny thing is, I used to order most of my coffee from the keurig website...I have enough points to get 50% off any of their brewers. Man that sucks. I have a Bunn drip coffee maker and it's the cats ass as far as drip coffee makers go, they do make a K-Cup coffee maker, I don't know if they're DRM or not though. |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 12:34:38 PM EDT
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Save your money and get a Cafejo My French Press for K-cups. They try to sell it as a french press but it really isn't a true french press. It works well with K-Cups, Pods or the included fill-your-own K-cup. Great to travel with especially since some motels offer Kurig machines & K-Cups in the lobby or breakfast area.
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Posted: 10/30/2014 12:36:25 PM EDT
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Pretty much had to see this coming... Capitalists gonna capitalize. They have the right to do it, I have the right to not purchase from them...it all works out in the end. Look at the reviews on Amazon. I'm guessing they won't stick with it for too long.
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Posted: 10/30/2014 12:38:46 PM EDT
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Lots of youtube on this. Bought one of the new one's at costco the other day. Wife bought some of the generic K-cups that you can fill with your own blend. Brewed up a couple cups of the "NEW" Stuff. Took a sharp razor knife, and cut the rim off the old/used K-cups..... Hot glued the old used rim to the top of the refillable cups.... WORKS GREAT...... TL,DF (too long, didn't fix) |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 12:38:55 PM EDT
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Save your money and get a Cafejo My French Press for K-cups. They try to sell it as a french press but it really isn't a true french press. It works well with K-Cups, Pods or the included fill-your-own K-cup. Great to travel with especially since some motels offer Kurig machines & K-Cups in the lobby or breakfast area. I've got a real French press...the keurig is for a quick cup of decent coffee on the run. |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 12:40:14 PM EDT
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The thing about the K-cups is they have a huge profit margin compared to coffee sold by the can. On top of that, the green mountain brand uses less coffee per k-cup than most if not all of the competition, plus a shitty filter. Keurig is overplaying their hand with the 2.0 BS, and I think it's going to drive away more business than it saves them. Their competition isn't exactly giving up either. On the Melitta coffee website, on the page for their cups it says:
*Will not fit in Keurig® 2.0 brewing system...yet. Ain't capitalism great? 
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Posted: 10/30/2014 12:41:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I didn't know about the DRM until reading this thread. I love my Keurig, but once it's dead I'm done. |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 12:48:03 PM EDT
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Get a good coffee maker with a thermal carafe instead of a burner.
My cheap-ass Mr Coffee thermal carafe keeps coffee hot for just about 8 hours, after that a quick nuke in the microwave brings it back without the snagnasty burnt coffee flavor of the burner style coffee makers. Single cup coffee makers are a fad that should die a pedophile's death. That's the only thing I can think of that's as unnatural as drinking 1 cup of coffee in the morning. Just sayin. Plus, they're "open source" so they can't keep you from making whatever the hell you want with them, tea, coffee, smelly coffee, hot coolaid, whatever blows your dress up. |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 12:59:41 PM EDT
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Get a good coffee maker with a thermal carafe instead of a burner. My cheap-ass Mr Coffee thermal carafe keeps coffee hot for just about 8 hours, after that a quick nuke in the microwave brings it back without the snagnasty burnt coffee flavor of the burner style coffee makers. Single cup coffee makers are a fad that should die a pedophile's death. That's the only thing I can think of that's as unnatural as drinking 1 cup of coffee in the morning. Just sayin. Plus, they're "open source" so they can't keep you from making whatever the hell you want with them, tea, coffee, smelly coffee, hot coolaid, whatever blows your dress up. I just love the easy cleanup/one cup capability of the k-cups. I like to be able to brew a cup on the way out the door, with virtually zero cleanup. I use a French press when I'm going to have much more. |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 1:02:21 PM EDT
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DRM on a coffee maker? Insane.
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Posted: 10/30/2014 1:07:35 PM EDT
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DRM on a coffee maker? Insane. That's what I said. |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 1:08:45 PM EDT
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DRM on a fucking coffee maker. Now I've seen everything. Well, almost everything.
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Posted: 10/30/2014 1:14:56 PM EDT
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For 1-2 cups a day we drink the wife and I just use this single serve gravity coffee maker. Works great, doesn't take up much space, and there's no electronics. Oh and it's $5.
http://www.amazon.com/Melitta-Ready-Single-Coffee-Brewer/dp/B0014CVEH6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1414689207&sr=8-1&keywords=coffee+dripper |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 1:19:53 PM EDT
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DRM on a fucking coffee maker. Now I've seen everything. Well, almost everything. Crazy isn't it?
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Posted: 10/30/2014 1:21:49 PM EDT
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Yeah, I don't want to mess with that. Fuck Keurig for this bullshit, I won't buy shit from them again. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A member here did a hack by cutting the scanned portion of the cup off an "official" k-cup and pasting it over the DRM-scanning eye. Pretty nice workaround. (Coffee wants to be free! )Yeah, I don't want to mess with that. Fuck Keurig for this bullshit, I won't buy shit from them again. Several other manufacturers make kcup coffee makers. |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 1:23:21 PM EDT
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Get a French Press and be done with it. In away I feel sorry for some of you because you won't be able to brew coffee when the electricity is cut after the zombies attack. Then again, I'll be the sole supplier of brewed coffee in my AO and a Warlord with an army of caffeine addicts at my disposal.
My french press coffee is hard on my stomach, not an uncommon problem. |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 1:25:19 PM EDT
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I predict that within ten years, they'll either do away with this, go into bankruptcy, or be sold to a rival for pennies on the dollar.
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Posted: 10/30/2014 1:26:36 PM EDT
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Several other manufacturers make kcup coffee makers. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A member here did a hack by cutting the scanned portion of the cup off an "official" k-cup and pasting it over the DRM-scanning eye. Pretty nice workaround. (Coffee wants to be free! )Yeah, I don't want to mess with that. Fuck Keurig for this bullshit, I won't buy shit from them again. Several other manufacturers make kcup coffee makers. That's what I was asking, what are some good ones? |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 1:31:46 PM EDT
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THEIR PRODUCT THEIR RULES
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Posted: 10/30/2014 1:33:20 PM EDT
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They have the right to do it, I have the right to not purchase from them...it all works out in the end. Look at the reviews on Amazon. I'm guessing they won't stick with it for too long. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Pretty much had to see this coming... Capitalists gonna capitalize. They have the right to do it, I have the right to not purchase from them...it all works out in the end. Look at the reviews on Amazon. I'm guessing they won't stick with it for too long. LOL I just did this. They're getting destroyed. |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 1:33:57 PM EDT
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I predict that within ten years, they'll either do away with this, go into bankruptcy, or be sold to a rival for pennies on the dollar. It won't take 10 years, especially if rival coffee companies are already working on defeating the tech. The Amazon reviews are scathing, and lots of people get their info from there. |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 1:35:42 PM EDT
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That's what I was asking, what are some good ones? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A member here did a hack by cutting the scanned portion of the cup off an "official" k-cup and pasting it over the DRM-scanning eye. Pretty nice workaround. (Coffee wants to be free! )Yeah, I don't want to mess with that. Fuck Keurig for this bullshit, I won't buy shit from them again. Several other manufacturers make kcup coffee makers. That's what I was asking, what are some good ones? If you want one with more bells and whistles I have the Cuisineart one, have had it for about 2-3 years and its still going strong. Can make several different cup sizes and has large water reservoir. I think it lists for $180 or so but found mine online for either $139 or $149. Bunn makes a simple one thats alot cheaper. |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 1:36:44 PM EDT
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I have this one. I'm happy with it.
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Posted: 10/30/2014 1:37:20 PM EDT
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DRM on a fucking coffee maker. Now I've seen everything. Well, almost everything. I know right? i mean we have thousands of coffee makers sitting lonely in thrift stores across america waiting to make you a brew for less than $5 each but instead the yuppie-tards have bought into the retardia that is Keurig. whats next? helicoptering your kids instead of actually parenting them? |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 1:39:00 PM EDT
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKgKX2aZCmE&list=PLQQLUnJdGAt8tiiBuj8vnF9umpbBBqsnU
Note the FEMA camp WROL crap is SARCASM. all kinda of coffee stuff on his channel. Apprently he also used to own a bunch of Coffee shops and recently became free from his non compete, |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 1:42:45 PM EDT
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They still sell the original brewers. They are listed on their website.
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Posted: 10/30/2014 1:43:00 PM EDT
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I know right? i mean we have thousands of coffee makers sitting lonely in thrift stores across america waiting to make you a brew for less than $5 each but instead the yuppie-tards have bought into the retardia that is Keurig. whats next? helicoptering your kids instead of actually parenting them? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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DRM on a fucking coffee maker. Now I've seen everything. Well, almost everything. I know right? i mean we have thousands of coffee makers sitting lonely in thrift stores across america waiting to make you a brew for less than $5 each but instead the yuppie-tards have bought into the retardia that is Keurig. whats next? helicoptering your kids instead of actually parenting them? Buy your thrift store coffee maker, have fun with it. I prefer an easy to use one cup machine...call me a "yuppie-tard" if that makes you feel better about your choices.
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Posted: 10/30/2014 1:44:47 PM EDT
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They still sell the original brewers. They are listed on their website. Girl said they discontinued them...I wonder if they're still supported? I'm going to call back, maybe I'll get a different person. Will post back with results. |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 1:45:56 PM EDT
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THEIR PRODUCT THEIR RULES Yep, and its his right to be unhappy with those rules and take his money elsewhere. |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 1:47:30 PM EDT
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKgKX2aZCmE&list=PLQQLUnJdGAt8tiiBuj8vnF9umpbBBqsnU Note the FEMA camp WROL crap is SARCASM. all kinda of coffee stuff on his channel. Apprently he also used to own a bunch of Coffee shops and recently became free from his non compete, "...virtually indestructable." Bullshit. I destructed the shit out of my wife's Aeropress by accidentally knocking it off the counter. It's a piece of shit. |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 1:48:15 PM EDT
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Are there other brand machines that can use actual K-cups?
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Posted: 10/30/2014 1:51:56 PM EDT
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y'all should try an electric bodum santos vacume 2 cup maker
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Posted: 10/30/2014 1:52:54 PM EDT
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Are there other brand machines that can use actual K-cups? Lots of em, and the one I posted has a basket filter. |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 1:53:01 PM EDT
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Buy your thrift store coffee maker, have fun with it. I prefer an easy to use one cup machine...call me a "yuppie-tard" if that makes you feel better about your choices. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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DRM on a fucking coffee maker. Now I've seen everything. Well, almost everything. I know right? i mean we have thousands of coffee makers sitting lonely in thrift stores across america waiting to make you a brew for less than $5 each but instead the yuppie-tards have bought into the retardia that is Keurig. whats next? helicoptering your kids instead of actually parenting them? Buy your thrift store coffee maker, have fun with it. I prefer an easy to use one cup machine...call me a "yuppie-tard" if that makes you feel better about your choices. you put the filer paper in it, scoop some grounds into it, close it, and fill it with water. yeah thats real complicated. i had coffee yesterday from an "old style" brewer. it was great. |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 1:55:33 PM EDT
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Lots of em, and the one I posted has a basket filter. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Are there other brand machines that can use actual K-cups? Lots of em, and the one I posted has a basket filter. Soooooo... All the DRM is doing is encouraging people to buy from their competition... |
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Posted: 10/30/2014 1:55:39 PM EDT
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Got off the phone with them again, they have one brewer left that's non-drm. They have discontinued all others. I told they guy they were getting hammered over the reviews, he just laughed and said "I know, I take calls 8 hours a day about it."
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Posted: 10/30/2014 1:57:21 PM EDT
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Soooooo... All the DRM is doing is encouraging people to buy from their competition... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Are there other brand machines that can use actual K-cups? Lots of em, and the one I posted has a basket filter. Soooooo... All the DRM is doing is encouraging people to buy from their competition... Bingo |
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