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Posted: 10/24/2014 7:18:42 PM EDT
Are the Guards' M14s at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier Loaded?



Rather than rely on google, I am sure people here know for a fact.  Thanks.
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:19:21 PM EDT
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I would hope so but I doubt it.
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:19:22 PM EDT
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What, with one round?
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:20:00 PM EDT
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I really, really doubt it.

They do have the pig sticker though.


Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:20:18 PM EDT
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Doubt it, but I believe there are other Marines close by ready to open a can of whoop ass if needed.
 



ETA: Brain fart on my part, other soldiers...
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:20:30 PM EDT
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nope.
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:21:29 PM EDT
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This.
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:21:59 PM EDT
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I'm willing to bet big money that they are not loaded.
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:21:59 PM EDT
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I thought they carried M9s for protection.
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:22:09 PM EDT
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Are their mags at least loaded, even if they are out of the gun but on their persons?


Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:23:30 PM EDT
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Doubt that too
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:24:32 PM EDT
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I don't think so .
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:25:48 PM EDT
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I wonder if these are loaded?

Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:26:55 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:27:53 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:28:15 PM EDT
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Well they have M14s, but no magazines...
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:28:49 PM EDT
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AT 2:35 bolt is open

Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:29:27 PM EDT
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No. The cycle the rifle during the changing of the guard, no ammo.
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:29:30 PM EDT
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I would bet those are loaded.

And what is it with European facination with that cruel form of torture? What is the history behind the goose step?
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:29:44 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:31:06 PM EDT
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Other Marines?
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:31:09 PM EDT
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You trollin'?
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:31:12 PM EDT
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Guards walking?  I doubt it but I would bet the guys on the gate are locked and cocked now.
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:31:44 PM EDT
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There was member who said that the local Army unit didn't even have rounds. So I doubt they do. Maybe something in their changing room(or whatever).
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:32:40 PM EDT
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"other Marines"?



 
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:33:14 PM EDT
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The Guard is US Army

The tomb guards are soldiers of the United States Army. The first military guards were troopers from the 3d Cavalry, "Brave Rifles", who were posted nearby on Fort Myer. Since April 6, 1948, (known then as "Army Day"), when the regiment was reactivated, it's been Soldiers from 3rd Infantry Regiment, "The Old Guard". The Old Guard is also posted to Fort Myer. It is considered one of the highest honors to serve as a Sentinel at the Tomb of the Unknowns. Fewer than 20 percent of all volunteers are accepted for training and of those only a fraction pass training to become full-fledged Tomb Guards. This attrition rate has made the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier Guard Identification Badge the second least-awarded decoration of the United States military (the first being the Astronaut Badge).[17]

Wiki that shit yo
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:33:15 PM EDT
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Thank you.  Neither do I see mags on their belts.  But I am hoping now that those M9's in their holsters are loaded.



       
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AT 2:35 bolt is open



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Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:33:37 PM EDT
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Doubt it, but I believe there are other Marines close by ready to open a can of whoop ass if needed.




You trollin'?
Brain fart on my part

 
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:34:19 PM EDT
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Doubtful

Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:34:39 PM EDT
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Edit: Almost forgot this is a public forum.
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:35:01 PM EDT
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What mags? They have no mags.
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:35:12 PM EDT
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The ones you see aren't
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:36:39 PM EDT
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If memory serves, the M14s are unloaded as is the M9.



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Thanks.  Based on what happened in Canada, I think it is time to load those M9's and have them carry loaded mags for the M14.  



 
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:37:26 PM EDT
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Thanks.  Based on what happened in Canada, I think it is time to load those M9's and have them carry loaded mags for the M14.  
 
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If memory serves, the M14s are unloaded as is the M9.

That said, there is live ammo for the M9 kept in the vicinity.
Thanks.  Based on what happened in Canada, I think it is time to load those M9's and have them carry loaded mags for the M14.  
 


You're thinking logically.  Don't do that when it comes to these things.  Your head will hurt.
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:38:01 PM EDT
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What mags? They have no mags.
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Are their mags at least loaded, even if they are out of the gun but on their persons?


What mags? They have no mags.


But looks like some type of floor plate or you would see through when bolt is open

I take it back no mag no floor plate after re-watching
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:40:16 PM EDT
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Thanks.  Based on what happened in Canada, I think it is time to load those M9's and have them carry loaded mags for the M14.  
 
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If memory serves, the M14s are unloaded as is the M9.

That said, there is live ammo for the M9 kept in the vicinity.
Thanks.  Based on what happened in Canada, I think it is time to load those M9's and have them carry loaded mags for the M14.  
 


No doubt.  The bureaucrats; however, likely see it as less of a personal liability to allow terrorists to kill our military members than to risk the possibility of explaining a negligent discharge.
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:44:01 PM EDT
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I believe I read once that the Sergeant of the Tomb does carry a loaded handgun.
He is the only one who carries a loaded weapon.


Don't quote me on that though, I might've read it here.
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:44:17 PM EDT
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I can't imagine they would be.  It will take 20 years for our country to come around to that if we survive!
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:45:08 PM EDT
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If they were loaded half of GD would cry because "Armed troops on American soil blah blah blah" 87 times.....

Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:45:12 PM EDT
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Ridiculous that a uniformed solider is in public with a weapon but is not allowed to have rounds for/in said weapon.  First we've had soldiers get attacked in Europe, now in Canada, etc.


I wonder what military would say if those guys got a CWP and carried a personal weapon concealed.

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They would probably have heart attacks if they knew that Ntl Guard sometimes arm and ride with cops during/after bad hurricanes and have been involved in shootings during said times.
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:46:07 PM EDT
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It may be just me, but I've always felt having honor guards carry an unloaded rifle was an insult to what their guarding.  Kinda like just for show, instead of actual respect and care.
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:46:35 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:48:43 PM EDT
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You're thinking logically.  Don't do that when it comes to these things.  Your head will hurt.
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If memory serves, the M14s are unloaded as is the M9.



That said, there is live ammo for the M9 kept in the vicinity.
Thanks.  Based on what happened in Canada, I think it is time to load those M9's and have them carry loaded mags for the M14.  

 




You're thinking logically.  Don't do that when it comes to these things.  Your head will hurt.
I hear what you are saying.  But I am thinking of those Guards not the fucktard politicians.  I am sure the guards at the White House and Capitol are armed to protect their asses.
 
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:50:59 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:52:37 PM EDT
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No. Part of the changing of the guard is an inspection of arms that verfies it is unloaded.
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 7:56:16 PM EDT
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They probably would not hesitate to butt-stroke someone if need be.
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 8:03:57 PM EDT
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Yep, drunk as hell
 
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 8:05:04 PM EDT
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I hear what you are saying.  But I am thinking of those Guards not the fucktard politicians.  I am sure the guards at the White House and Capitol are armed to protect their asses.


 
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If memory serves, the M14s are unloaded as is the M9.

That said, there is live ammo for the M9 kept in the vicinity.
Thanks.  Based on what happened in Canada, I think it is time to load those M9's and have them carry loaded mags for the M14.  
 


You're thinking logically.  Don't do that when it comes to these things.  Your head will hurt.
I hear what you are saying.  But I am thinking of those Guards not the fucktard politicians.  I am sure the guards at the White House and Capitol are armed to protect their asses.


 


Fully with you man, trust me.  It just isn't truly a military/security focused decision.  Somehow.  Kind of mind blowing, isn't it?
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 8:06:27 PM EDT
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Doubt that too, unless other unarmed honor guard counts.
Link Posted: 10/24/2014 8:09:40 PM EDT
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It would be difficult to walk such a post in that manner and be alert for potential threats.   Rifle loaded or not, they should have a security detail overwatch with the mission of keeping an eye on who comes and goes.
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