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Posted: 10/22/2014 6:12:47 PM EDT
I won't be able to purchase these pistols in CA in the new year and have room for one more. Which one? No reason other than to have it and shoot it, I already am invested in .45 and 9mm
Desert Warrior 
MP9 VTAC 
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Posted: 10/22/2014 6:13:41 PM EDT
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M&P9 Vtac
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Posted: 10/22/2014 6:14:38 PM EDT
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Of just those two, the M&P. But honestly I personally would not want either.
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Posted: 10/22/2014 6:14:40 PM EDT
[#3]
The Kimber you will just shoot
The M&P you will enjoy the hobby of replacing half of it just to make it feel like you're shooting a Kimber (and I'd buy the M&P) |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 6:15:53 PM EDT
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The Kimber you will just shoot look at because it will fail and not because its a 1911 but because its a kimber The M&P you will enjoy the hobby of replacing half of it just to make it feel like you're shooting a Kimber fixed |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 6:17:55 PM EDT
[#5]
In true Anti-ARFcom fashion.
Neither
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Posted: 10/22/2014 6:25:03 PM EDT
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M&P9 Vtac |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 6:26:37 PM EDT
[#7]
Kimber yuck!
 (yes, I have owned and fired them)
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Posted: 10/22/2014 6:26:55 PM EDT
[#8]
My Kimber Desert Warrior is a finicky piece.
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Posted: 10/22/2014 6:34:54 PM EDT
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My Kimber Desert Warrior is a finicky piece. I already have the Warrior (in black) and haven't had any malfunctions /shrug |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 6:36:06 PM EDT
[#10]
glock 17 FDE
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Posted: 10/22/2014 6:38:44 PM EDT
[#11]
Neither should be a poll option.
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Posted: 10/22/2014 6:39:03 PM EDT
[#12]
This is what you really seek... |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 6:41:56 PM EDT
[#13]
Neither:
Your level of bling may vary. |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 6:44:19 PM EDT
[#14]
What's happening in the new year in CA? More guns added to the ban list?
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Posted: 10/22/2014 6:44:20 PM EDT
[#15]
H&K VP9? Or USP45. Or both
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Posted: 10/22/2014 6:47:15 PM EDT
[#16]
Warrior
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Posted: 10/22/2014 6:47:44 PM EDT
[#17]
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What's happening in the new year in CA? More guns added to the ban list?
Getting rid of single shot exemptions. The only new handguns we'll be able to buy will have to be on the "safe handgun roster." |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 6:49:10 PM EDT
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Getting rid of single shot exemptions. The only new handguns we'll be able to buy will have to be on the "safe handgun roster." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What's happening in the new year in CA? More guns added to the ban list?
Getting rid of single shot exemptions. The only new handguns we'll be able to buy will have to be on the "safe handgun roster." So some handguns are "safer" than others? 
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Posted: 10/22/2014 6:49:11 PM EDT
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Neither: http://www.recoilweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/FNX-45-Tactical.jpg Your level of bling may vary. It looks like a honda civic some Mexican tricked out with parts from Autozone. 
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Posted: 10/22/2014 6:51:27 PM EDT
[#21]
my 2005 warrior runs great.
Buy the M&P though. I have 3 M&Ps and honestly prefer them |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 6:54:14 PM EDT
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So some handguns are "safer" than others? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What's happening in the new year in CA? More guns added to the ban list?
Getting rid of single shot exemptions. The only new handguns we'll be able to buy will have to be on the "safe handgun roster." So some handguns are "safer" than others?  /
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Posted: 10/22/2014 6:57:12 PM EDT
[#23]
VTAC is more useful of the two IMO
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Posted: 10/22/2014 6:57:14 PM EDT
[#24]
The glock is what you want
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Posted: 10/22/2014 6:58:14 PM EDT
[#25]
I had a Warrior, the thing was rock solid. Never missed a beat through thousands of rounds of all different types of ammo. Very accurate too, mine was a better shooter than I was.
The only complaint was the factory finish started to wear very quickly. I never carried it, and it was never in a holster, but after a year it looked like I'd carried it quite a bit. I've heard that was a common problem with the black Warriors, don't know if that same problem applies to the FDE on the Desert Warrior. Other than that the gun was great, I'd buy another one in a heartbeat. |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 6:59:52 PM EDT
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The Kimber you will just shoot look at because it will fail and not because its a 1911 but because its a kimber The M&P you will enjoy the hobby of replacing half of it just to make it feel like you're shooting a Kimber fixed
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Posted: 10/22/2014 7:01:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: /Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: What's happening in the new year in CA? More guns added to the ban list? Getting rid of single shot exemptions. The only new handguns we'll be able to buy will have to be on the "safe handgun roster." So some handguns are "safer" than others? / |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 7:02:43 PM EDT
[#28]
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Getting rid of single shot exemptions. The only new handguns we'll be able to buy will have to be on the "safe handgun roster." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What's happening in the new year in CA? More guns added to the ban list?
Getting rid of single shot exemptions. The only new handguns we'll be able to buy will have to be on the "safe handgun roster." It's certainly worth it to end violence on our streets. Soon you won't even have to lock your doors any more.
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Posted: 10/22/2014 7:12:10 PM EDT
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Don't buy a Kimber expecting a "Custom Shop" gun. How the hell they've made it this far without getting a consumer protection false advertising lawsuit it beyond my comprehension.
YMMV of course, and whatever works for you...but my Kimber Raptor II was one of the biggest disappointments of my life. Glad they took it back in trade. |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 7:17:08 PM EDT
[#30]
Interesting. I was looking at the VTAC this morning and was considering it against the g19. This post is relevant to my interests
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Posted: 10/22/2014 7:22:15 PM EDT
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My Kimber Desert Warrior is a finicky piece. Out of the 5 Kimbers I've owned, my Desert Warrior was the only reliable one. I guess that is proof of their QC though. |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 7:39:31 PM EDT
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M&P9 Vtac |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 7:41:58 PM EDT
[#33]
The Desert Warrior works great once you throw in some mags from Wilson Combat.
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Posted: 10/22/2014 7:42:08 PM EDT
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Neither: http://www.recoilweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/FNX-45-Tactical.jpg Your level of bling may vary. Fuck yes. Or Sig Scorpion. |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 8:16:10 PM EDT
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Out of the 5 Kimbers I've owned, my Desert Warrior was the only reliable one. I guess that is proof of their QC though. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My Kimber Desert Warrior is a finicky piece. Out of the 5 Kimbers I've owned, my Desert Warrior was the only reliable one. I guess that is proof of their QC though. I had a Eclipse Target II which would FTF because it had a target chamber and wouldn't feed all ammo. I picked up the Warrior II next at the recommendation of the Kimber tech guy, he said the Warrior had a slightly larger chamber to feed reliably. |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 8:16:49 PM EDT
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The Desert Warrior works great once you throw in some mags from Wilson Combat. Yea thats Step 1 of 1. Throw away Kimber mags and acquire Wilson/Chip McC mags |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 8:17:30 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote History
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Posted: 10/22/2014 8:17:40 PM EDT
[#38]
Kimber, I love mine!.
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Posted: 10/22/2014 8:21:39 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryI think I like you....
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Posted: 10/22/2014 8:28:42 PM EDT
[#40]
I'm having the same argument with myself over these same two guns. Kind of leaning towards the M&P.
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Posted: 10/22/2014 8:32:03 PM EDT
[#41]
put of the two, get the S&W As a former Kimber owner, I will never own another. You could give me one for free and I wouldn't take it Kimber and their so called worthless customer service sucks donkey balls |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 8:37:44 PM EDT
[#42]
If you gave me a kimber I would sell it to buy, well, anything else.
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Posted: 10/22/2014 8:39:09 PM EDT
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The Kimber you will just shoot look at because it will fail and not because its a 1911 but because its a kimber The M&P you will enjoy the hobby of replacing half of it just to make it feel like you're shooting a Kimber fixed Truer words have not been spoken. |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 8:42:39 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In true Anti-ARFcom fashion. Neither Yep. I like M&Ps and 1911s, but neither of those do anything for me. |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 8:47:46 PM EDT
[#45]
Smith, hands down.
Fuck Kimber, their spotty quality, and shitty CS.
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Posted: 10/22/2014 9:02:22 PM EDT
[#46]
no issues yet with my Eclipse Target II. It's got some aftermarket though, right out of the box.
If you already have one of these, albeit a different color, I guess I'd be looking at what Ammo I have more of, and what balance I'm shooting for 9MM vs. .45 as far as number of guns that will fire each. |
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Posted: 10/23/2014 12:20:01 PM EDT
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Leaning towards the Warrior, as I already have one in black and have had zero malfunctions over the past 6 years. I've kinda always wanted the desert version...
I've also just started shooting 9mm and dig the M&P FDE.... I know both will be reliable |
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Posted: 10/23/2014 12:22:03 PM EDT
[#48]
CZ SP-01
But the two, the M&P. There are better 1911's out there for the same money than that Kimber. There really isn't a better McPistol out there for the same money as the VTAC Smith. |
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Posted: 10/23/2014 12:22:13 PM EDT
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Of just those two, the M&P. But honestly I personally would not want either. +1 |
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Posted: 10/23/2014 12:24:23 PM EDT
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M&P
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