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Posted: 10/20/2014 10:55:53 AM EDT
I learned yesterday that $25-$35k even for a 3 year old trucks buys you cloth seats and a shitty plastic interior.
Oh you want leather seats and your cheap plastics wrapped in cheap leather? That will be another $5k -$10k. All the manufactures have 6 different trim options and generally only top two trim levels get you what I would consider a half way good interior. Did we take a step back here? 10 years ago I bought my wife a 01 tahoe LT for $20k with the top trim level and they had 3 trim levels at most. I feel like just about every truck we looked at had cloth seats. What's with the ford interiors on the f150? One of the higher trim levels had the same exact plastics and the same location of those plastics as the lower trim levels, that's pretty f'd up. Ecoboost engine was AWESOME though, made the truck so much smoother and quieter, basically it felt more refined then all the other trucks we looked at cause of that engine. The 5.0 engine was loud and felt weak, you guys who dog the ecoboost and talk up the 5.0 are cray cray. Dodge trucks were just bla, nothing special at all. I can't believe they even offer that 4.7 V8, so fucking weak they shoukd be ashamed. Honeslty the best truck we looked at was a bro-dozed 2013 LT silverado, interior was bland like the rest but the truck looked good so it had the extra edge and the 5.3 is a solid engine that I'm familiar with. If I coukd have my way I'd take the chevy, change the price tag to dodge levels and put the ecoboost ford engine in it. |
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Trucks are very pricey right now, I have seen new trucks go for the same price or slightly cheaper than a slightly used one. Look for a new truck with 6-10k off the sticker
Edit You should look at the price of big SUVs |
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I hate to say this, but right now your probably better off buying new, that or wait for a few years for the used market to get back to normal
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I went through the same thing a few years ago. I use my truck for work but still wanted something with decent options so I could haul the family in comfort if I'm hauling the horse trailer to a show or something. I finally stopped looking at new ones and just bought a used Dodge with good options. Much cheaper just paid cash and was done with it.
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Trucks are very pricey right now, I have seen new trucks go for the same price or slightly cheaper than a slightly used one. Look for a new truck with 6-10k off the sticker Edit You should look at the price of big SUVs View Quote That's still about $40k when it's all said and done. That's basically a $700-$800 a month payment assuming someone loaned all that outright. Last year I bought a twin turbo BMW with hardly mIles on it for $25k, the car still smells brand new even. This shit is madness and I'm not really understanding how we're getting and sustaining these truck/suv numbers. |
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That's still about $40k when it's all said and done. That's basically a $700-$800 a month payment assuming someone loaned all that outright. Last year I bought a twin turbo BMW with hardly mIles on it for $25k, the car still smells brand new even. This shit is madness and I'm not really understanding how we're getting and sustaining these truck/suv numbers. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Trucks are very pricey right now, I have seen new trucks go for the same price or slightly cheaper than a slightly used one. Look for a new truck with 6-10k off the sticker Edit You should look at the price of big SUVs That's still about $40k when it's all said and done. That's basically a $700-$800 a month payment assuming someone loaned all that outright. Last year I bought a twin turbo BMW with hardly mIles on it for $25k, the car still smells brand new even. This shit is madness and I'm not really understanding how we're getting and sustaining these truck/suv numbers. Low interest rates for 6 or 7 year terms, combined with inflation. It's absurd. In 2003 I bought a fully loaded 1999 Z71 Silverado with 30k miles for $19,000 dollars. Today a fully loaded 3 year old silverado is $35k. |
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As long as the suckers keep paying the prices they will keep on selling the cheap plastic junk.
If you think that's bad, have you seen what idiots are paying for ATVs and side by sides ?? |
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Yep, I found an ecoboosted Lariat at a price I could live with this spring so I jumped on it. I had been looking for a while.
Leather, all the electronic goodies, and an engine that pulls like beast. Cost me $35K though with 38k miles on it. |
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My wife loves the heated leather seats in my sierra. I swear it could be 100 degrees out and the first thing she does when she climbs aboard is to turn on her seat.
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You can buy a NEW Loaded Quad Cab, 4x4 XLT Package Ford F-150 for $28K
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I went through the same thing a few years ago. I use my truck for work but still wanted something with decent options so I could haul the family in comfort if I'm hauling the horse trailer to a show or something. I finally stopped looking at new ones and just bought a used Dodge with good options. Much cheaper just paid cash and was done with it. View Quote The dodge dealership offered us the best truck for the money around $20k. It had cloth seats but it was only a few years old and had like 20k miles. I do their IT work so I'm not sure if that helped but if we were in dire straights and needed a truck that day, we would have bought that Ram. It was the most boring out of all the trucks though, it didn't have that extra edge and it would have felt "chore" like buying it. |
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I'd wait a bit.
Year end is always a good time to buy, and gas prices are likely to go back up after the election. |
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wow, I'd better go wash and buff my '08 2500 WT. Yeah, bare bones, but I paid 22k new. They way we treat a truck the leather is a waste.
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I have been wanting a F150 XLT crew or FX4..then I saw how much they are asking and what the annual operating costs are. And you are right OP, aside from the outside look of some of the outside trim packages, most trucks are VERY lame on the inside.
Yeah, I will stick to my $226.00/ mo payment for another year on my commuter and rent a home deport truck or enterprise pick up for the day if I need a hauler. Someone here said to look at the Enterprise sales for used pickups..I may do that if I really want one. Right now, I just don't see the value in them (for me). |
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The dodge dealership offered us the best truck for the money around $20k. It had cloth seats but it was only a few years old and had like 20k miles. I do their IT work so I'm not sure if that helped but if we were in dire straights and needed a truck that day, we would have bought that Ram. It was the most boring out of all the trucks though, it didn't have that extra edge and it would have felt "chore" like buying it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I went through the same thing a few years ago. I use my truck for work but still wanted something with decent options so I could haul the family in comfort if I'm hauling the horse trailer to a show or something. I finally stopped looking at new ones and just bought a used Dodge with good options. Much cheaper just paid cash and was done with it. The dodge dealership offered us the best truck for the money around $20k. It had cloth seats but it was only a few years old and had like 20k miles. I do their IT work so I'm not sure if that helped but if we were in dire straights and needed a truck that day, we would have bought that Ram. It was the most boring out of all the trucks though, it didn't have that extra edge and it would have felt "chore" like buying it. Yeah I've owned an F150 and a Silverado. I liked the interior of the F150 the most but it was an older model (2008) so not sure how that stacks up to the new ones. The Dodge isn't over fancy but it has been a workhorse and I have had zero mechanical issues with it. My dad and brother are die hard Ford guys and gave me shit for getting a Dodge but besides tires and routine maintenance I have had zero repair bills. Their Fords, on the other hand, are nickel and dimeing them all the time. |
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wow, I'd better go wash and buff my '08 2500 WT. Yeah, bare bones, but I paid 22k new. They way we treat a truck the leather is a waste. View Quote After my experience yesterday and seeing what you guys are posting here, there are some deals to be had if one is willing to deal with lower trim levels, it's the options were you can end up paying out thr nose. And here I thought it was just the Germans who played that game, it would seem the American manufactures have followed suit since I bought my 01 Tahoe 10 years ago. |
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Just keep looking....I payed 34K for my F150 FX4 with eccoboost (used) Has damn near everything except sun roof and rear heated seats
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I have been wanting a F150 XLT crew or FX4..then I saw how much they are asking and what the annual operating costs are. And you are right OP, aside from the outside look of some of the outside trim packages, most trucks are VERY lame on the inside. Yeah, I will stick to my $226.00/ mo payment for another year on my commuter and rent a home deport truck or enterprise pick up for the day if I need a hauler. Someone here said to look at the Enterprise sales for used pickups..I may do that if I really want one. Right now, I just don't see the value in them (for me). View Quote You know what the fastest vehicles in the world are? Rentals. |
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Just keep looking....I payed 34K for my F150 FX4 with eccoboost (used) Has damn near everything except sun roof and rear heated seats View Quote How many miles though? I was surprised at how many super low miles trucks there were on the lots, but they all wanted top dollar for them though. |
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Try having 6 kids. Well we did just get the cheapest large vehicle ever the Nissan nv3500 which came to 40k with nav and all. We drive to Disney world like twice a year and the qx56's we have just won't cut it for the 16-20 hour trip. Can still tow almost 9000lbs too which is nice. Only 2wd tho and ugly.
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Try having 6 kids. Well we did just get the cheapest large vehicle ever the Nissan nv3500 which came to 40k with nav and all. We drive to Disney world like twice a year and the qx56's we have just won't cut it for the 16-20 hour trip. Can still tow almost 9000lbs too which is nice. Only 2wd tho and ugly. Will work for long trips. Will stick to the infinitys for around town with the family. View Quote Wow man, you and your wife must be busy in more ways then one. 6 kids? I would just give in and embrace the minivan. |
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You can buy a NEW Loaded Quad Cab, 4x4 XLT Package Ford F-150 for $28K View Quote Total bullshit. Considering starting MSRP on an XLT is $30k and add 6.5k to that if want a crew.... and that is only a 4x2 (you gotta add 3400 for that). MSRP on just your XLT, Cab, and drive.. you're at $40,260 I didn't even add "FULLY loaded" which is a hair over 50k. |
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Case in point: Here is the window sticker for this truck : http://www.inventory.ford.com/services/inventory/WindowSticker.pdf?vin=1FTFW1ET2EKD81086
It's for the most part LOADED. Twin Turbo. Locker Heated leather seats..... 36K http://www.lithiafordboise.com/new/Ford/2014-Ford-F-150-Boise-ID-e224013e0a0a00e05c5eab4604331aee.htm I guess I just don't see where people are getting these ridiculous prices they are quoting. I think you can buy a whole lot of truck for the money these days. |
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Total bullshit. Considering starting MSRP on an XLT is $30k and add 6.5k to that if want a crew.... and that is only a 4x2 (you gotta add 3400 for that). MSRP on just your XLT, Cab, and drive.. you're at $40,260 I didn't even add "FULLY loaded" which is a hair over 50k. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You can buy a NEW Loaded Quad Cab, 4x4 XLT Package Ford F-150 for $28K Total bullshit. Considering starting MSRP on an XLT is $30k and add 6.5k to that if want a crew.... and that is only a 4x2 (you gotta add 3400 for that). MSRP on just your XLT, Cab, and drive.. you're at $40,260 I didn't even add "FULLY loaded" which is a hair over 50k. XLT Crew cab, 4x4, 5.0 30K http://www.lithiafordboise.com/new/Ford/2014-Ford-F-150-Boise-ID-258467960a0a00e0385aa10950086e1b.htm |
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Case in point: Here is the window sticker for this truck : http://www.inventory.ford.com/services/inventory/WindowSticker.pdf?vin=1FTFW1ET2EKD81086 It's for the most part LOADED. Twin Turbo. Locker Heated leather seats..... 36K http://www.lithiafordboise.com/new/Ford/2014-Ford-F-150-Boise-ID-e224013e0a0a00e05c5eab4604331aee.htm I guess I just don't see where people are getting these ridiculous prices they are quoting. I think you can buy a whole lot of truck for the money these days. View Quote Maybe it's a location thing? I know around here people are koo koo for trucks. When we were test driving that bro'd out chevy, I thought we were in a lambo we got so many looks. |
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I feel your pain OP. I'm in the used market right now and people are commandin top dollar for their tired rust buckets. Need to let the market adjust before I make the leap
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I ripped out the carpet and Herculined the tub of my Jeep Rubicon, leather...pffft
I guess you guys need a place to keep the Vagasil you want leather, get a town car, or a minivan |
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People buy them like they are going out of style. Until that stops dealerships are going to keep raking it in.
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XLT Package 4X4 Quad cab, Ecoboost twin turbo 33K
http://www.lithiafordboise.com/new/Ford/2014-Ford-F-150-Boise-ID-6c7eb1050a0a0002716cfd2166d6d9ef.htm Windows Sticker for truck: http://www.inventory.ford.com/services/inventory/WindowSticker.pdf?vin=1FTFW1ET1EKF61417 |
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Honestly the best thing for you to do is look for a 2001 Toyota Tacoma. Make sure it already has the recall frame work done and if you get it for 19k you stole it.
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I just want a truck. I don't need leather, GPS, butt massaging seats, and a bluetooth fleshlight mounted in the glove box. I just want a fucking truck to pull my boat and take me to work.
And I want it to cost under 20K and get better than 15MPG. Why is that so fucking hard? |
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Welcome to the world, when did you get off?
I bought a new truck last year for about $33,000. |
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I learned yesterday that $25-$35k even for a 3 year old trucks buys you cloth seats and a shitty plastic interior. Oh you want leather seats and your cheap plastics wrapped in cheap leather? That will be another $5k -$10k. All the manufactures have 6 different trim options and generally only top two trim levels get you what I would consider a half way good interior. Did we take a step back here? 10 years ago I bought my wife a 01 tahoe LT for $20k with the top trim level and they had 3 trim levels at most. I feel like just about every truck we looked at had cloth seats. What's with the ford interiors on the f150? One of the higher trim levels had the same exact plastics and the same location of those plastics as the lower trim levels, that's pretty f'd up. Ecoboost engine was AWESOME though, made the truck so much smoother and quieter, basically it felt more refined then all the other trucks we looked at cause of that engine. The 5.0 engine was loud and felt weak, you guys who dog the ecoboost and talk up the 5.0 are cray cray. Dodge trucks were just bla, nothing special at all. I can't believe they even offer that 4.7 V8, so fucking weak they shoukd be ashamed. Honeslty the best truck we looked at was a bro-dozed 2013 LT silverado, interior was bland like the rest but the truck looked good so it had the extra edge and the 5.3 is a solid engine that I'm familiar with. If I coukd have my way I'd take the chevy, change the price tag to dodge levels and put the ecoboost ford engine in it. View Quote why are you buying a truck? |
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XLT Crew cab, 4x4, 5.0 30K http://www.lithiafordboise.com/new/Ford/2014-Ford-F-150-Boise-ID-258467960a0a00e0385aa10950086e1b.htm View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You can buy a NEW Loaded Quad Cab, 4x4 XLT Package Ford F-150 for $28K Total bullshit. Considering starting MSRP on an XLT is $30k and add 6.5k to that if want a crew.... and that is only a 4x2 (you gotta add 3400 for that). MSRP on just your XLT, Cab, and drive.. you're at $40,260 I didn't even add "FULLY loaded" which is a hair over 50k. XLT Crew cab, 4x4, 5.0 30K http://www.lithiafordboise.com/new/Ford/2014-Ford-F-150-Boise-ID-258467960a0a00e0385aa10950086e1b.htm That truck is $40k+ in SW Indiana. If I was looking for a new ride, It would almost be worth a plane ticket to ID. |
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XLT Package 4X4 Quad cab, Ecoboost twin turbo 33K http://www.lithiafordboise.com/new/Ford/2014-Ford-F-150-Boise-ID-6c7eb1050a0a0002716cfd2166d6d9ef.htm Windows Sticker for truck: http://www.inventory.ford.com/services/inventory/WindowSticker.pdf?vin=1FTFW1ET1EKF61417 View Quote I don't see dealers taking off $5k off of an already $5k rebate. Sounds like I need to take a trip to Idaho. |
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I learned yesterday that $25-$35k even for a 3 year old trucks buys you cloth seats and a shitty plastic interior. Oh you want leather seats and your cheap plastics wrapped in cheap leather? That will be another $5k -$10k. All the manufactures have 6 different trim options and generally only top two trim levels get you what I would consider a half way good interior. Did we take a step back here? 10 years ago I bought my wife a 01 tahoe LT for $20k with the top trim level and they had 3 trim levels at most. I feel like just about every truck we looked at had cloth seats. What's with the ford interiors on the f150? One of the higher trim levels had the same exact plastics and the same location of those plastics as the lower trim levels, that's pretty f'd up. Ecoboost engine was AWESOME though, made the truck so much smoother and quieter, basically it felt more refined then all the other trucks we looked at cause of that engine. The 5.0 engine was loud and felt weak, you guys who dog the ecoboost and talk up the 5.0 are cray cray. Dodge trucks were just bla, nothing special at all. I can't believe they even offer that 4.7 V8, so fucking weak they shoukd be ashamed. Honeslty the best truck we looked at was a bro-dozed 2013 LT silverado, interior was bland like the rest but the truck looked good so it had the extra edge and the 5.3 is a solid engine that I'm familiar with. If I coukd have my way I'd take the chevy, change the price tag to dodge levels and put the ecoboost ford engine in it. why are you buying a truck? I drive fast cars, wife has had same SUV for 10 years and wants a truck. I personally hate trucks if you want to know the truth. Not really the point anyways. For the price they're commanding, they should be loaded down. You might be ok with spending $30k+ for a cloth and plastic interior so you can show the world how manly you are but for me it's about money and what you get for your money. |
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Total bullshit. Considering starting MSRP on an XLT is $30k and add 6.5k to that if want a crew.... and that is only a 4x2 (you gotta add 3400 for that). MSRP on just your XLT, Cab, and drive.. you're at $40,260 I didn't even add "FULLY loaded" which is a hair over 50k. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You can buy a NEW Loaded Quad Cab, 4x4 XLT Package Ford F-150 for $28K Total bullshit. Considering starting MSRP on an XLT is $30k and add 6.5k to that if want a crew.... and that is only a 4x2 (you gotta add 3400 for that). MSRP on just your XLT, Cab, and drive.. you're at $40,260 I didn't even add "FULLY loaded" which is a hair over 50k. exactly....28k seems a bit of a stretch. ETA - http://www.billcolwellford.com/inventory/view/2014/Model/F-150/New/Records10/Trims/XLT/Cab/SuperCrew%20Cab/SortByPriceLowToHigh/ We are getting hosed in IA |
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I don't see dealers taking off $5k off of an already $5k rebate. Sounds like I need to take a trip to Idaho. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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XLT Package 4X4 Quad cab, Ecoboost twin turbo 33K http://www.lithiafordboise.com/new/Ford/2014-Ford-F-150-Boise-ID-6c7eb1050a0a0002716cfd2166d6d9ef.htm Windows Sticker for truck: http://www.inventory.ford.com/services/inventory/WindowSticker.pdf?vin=1FTFW1ET1EKF61417 I don't see dealers taking off $5k off of an already $5k rebate. Sounds like I need to take a trip to Idaho. Just call the dealer, they will ship it to your dealer for you in most cases. No need for a trip. Or find a similar truck where you are at, print the above out and say "If you guys can't give me the same price, I am buying this one." |
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That truck is $40k+ in SW Indiana. If I was looking for a new ride, It would almost be worth a plane ticket to ID. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You can buy a NEW Loaded Quad Cab, 4x4 XLT Package Ford F-150 for $28K Total bullshit. Considering starting MSRP on an XLT is $30k and add 6.5k to that if want a crew.... and that is only a 4x2 (you gotta add 3400 for that). MSRP on just your XLT, Cab, and drive.. you're at $40,260 I didn't even add "FULLY loaded" which is a hair over 50k. XLT Crew cab, 4x4, 5.0 30K http://www.lithiafordboise.com/new/Ford/2014-Ford-F-150-Boise-ID-258467960a0a00e0385aa10950086e1b.htm That truck is $40k+ in SW Indiana. If I was looking for a new ride, It would almost be worth a plane ticket to ID. Looks like I'm flying to ID |
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You can buy a NEW Loaded Quad Cab, 4x4 XLT Package Ford F-150 for $28K Total bullshit. Considering starting MSRP on an XLT is $30k and add 6.5k to that if want a crew.... and that is only a 4x2 (you gotta add 3400 for that). MSRP on just your XLT, Cab, and drive.. you're at $40,260 I didn't even add "FULLY loaded" which is a hair over 50k. exactly....28k seems a bit of a stretch. Look up. |
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You can buy a NEW Loaded Quad Cab, 4x4 XLT Package Ford F-150 for $28K Total bullshit. Considering starting MSRP on an XLT is $30k and add 6.5k to that if want a crew.... and that is only a 4x2 (you gotta add 3400 for that). MSRP on just your XLT, Cab, and drive.. you're at $40,260 I didn't even add "FULLY loaded" which is a hair over 50k. XLT Crew cab, 4x4, 5.0 30K http://www.lithiafordboise.com/new/Ford/2014-Ford-F-150-Boise-ID-258467960a0a00e0385aa10950086e1b.htm That truck is $40k+ in SW Indiana. If I was looking for a new ride, It would almost be worth a plane ticket to ID. Looks like I'm flying to ID I'm calling that dealer right now, I'll let you know how it goes. Edited: just talked with a guys there. He says they sell shit tons to out of state people but they don't ship to other dealerships. If you did have them ship it, it's a car carrier service that drops it off at your drive way. Going to talk to the wife and see what she thinks about a trip to boise. |
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Just call the dealer, they will ship it to your dealer for you in most cases. No need for a trip. Or find a similar truck where you are at, print the above out and say "If you guys can't give me the same price, I am buying this one." View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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XLT Package 4X4 Quad cab, Ecoboost twin turbo 33K http://www.lithiafordboise.com/new/Ford/2014-Ford-F-150-Boise-ID-6c7eb1050a0a0002716cfd2166d6d9ef.htm Windows Sticker for truck: http://www.inventory.ford.com/services/inventory/WindowSticker.pdf?vin=1FTFW1ET1EKF61417 I don't see dealers taking off $5k off of an already $5k rebate. Sounds like I need to take a trip to Idaho. Just call the dealer, they will ship it to your dealer for you in most cases. No need for a trip. Or find a similar truck where you are at, print the above out and say "If you guys can't give me the same price, I am buying this one." Would either of those option works for someone living 2000+/-miles away? |
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I hate to say this, but right now your probably better off buying new, that or wait for a few years for the used market to get back to normal View Quote Crazy, but likely true. The old "two years old" doesn't apply anymore. Two year old used cars sell for more than NEW cars with good incentives applied. It's nuts. I gave up looking and bought a 7 year old truck with over 100k just to get the price down to something I considered reasonable. Money, aint worth what it used to be. |
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Back in late 1998/early 99 I had an employee that was truck shopping. Shit credit so he considered in no way could he be looking at anything new. Off to the local Ford dealers used lot he went and came up with a 97 F150 standard cab, short bed, V6 stripper model with a standard transmission. One step up from a work truck. Used hard with 50,000 miles and had been wrecked and repaired very poorly. $13,995 and they would finance him at some astronomical rate upwards of 19%. I had to laugh. I called the dealers new car department and spoke with someone I know and found a brand new 98 model similarly equipped but with two tone paint and chrome wheels, clearance price for $13,700.00 and got him interest at 7.5%. People are stupid.
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From another dealer here (This is the dealer I use for everything)
29K XLT Package, quad cab. http://www.kendallfordofmeridian.com/Boise/For-Sale/New/Ford/F-150/2014-XLT-Black-Truck/27940857/ |
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