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Posted: 9/30/2014 3:38:20 PM EDT
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"United" States of America.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 3:38:59 PM EDT
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Of course the states can stick with this filthy bloated out of control abusive debt ridden government and see how it works out.
It is time for this union to be dissolved because it isn't working out very well. Dr Paul has it right. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 3:39:55 PM EDT
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The US was founded on rebellion. As usual I agree entirely with Dr Paul.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 3:40:41 PM EDT
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"United" States of America. United forever in friendship and labor... |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 3:41:02 PM EDT
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Of course the states can stick with this filthy bloated out of control abusive debt ridden government and see how it works out. It is time for this union to be dissolved because it isn't working out very well. Dr Paul has it right. Dr Paul is an idiot unfit to call himself an American. I doubt that he's got the balls to fire the first shot at a 21st century Ft Sumter. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 3:41:55 PM EDT
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The US was founded on rebellion. As usual I agree entirely with Dr Paul. no it wasn't it was found on revolution after colonialism. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 3:41:58 PM EDT
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"United" States of America. "United" Kingdom |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 3:46:48 PM EDT
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no it wasn't it was found on revolution after colonialism. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The US was founded on rebellion. As usual I agree entirely with Dr Paul. no it wasn't it was found on revolution after colonialism. Whig, please. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 3:48:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/30/2014 3:48:23 PM EDT
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Why should he shut his mouth?
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Posted: 9/30/2014 3:50:25 PM EDT
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"United" Kingdom Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"United" States of America. "United" Kingdom Unlike European empires, every state voluntarily joined the union to form a More perfect union. A few mouth breathers got upset over an election and tried to destroy that union and were defeated. People that push secession are just as dangerous to this nation as communists and terrorists. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 3:52:18 PM EDT
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Why should he shut his mouth? He's an irrelevant asshole stirring up his clones. I doubt if he was King that he'd allow free speech |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 3:53:33 PM EDT
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I do think you meant this: "The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America," .......then 47 more states joined said union |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 3:54:49 PM EDT
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He's an irrelevant asshole stirring up his clones. I doubt if he was King that he'd allow free speech Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why should he shut his mouth? He's an irrelevant asshole stirring up his clones. I doubt if he was King that he'd allow free speech Got it. At one time he would have been a good president. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 3:55:10 PM EDT
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The US was founded on rebellion. As usual I agree entirely with Dr Paul. So you find yourself agreeing with RP all the time huh? 
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Posted: 9/30/2014 3:55:31 PM EDT
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Dr Paul is an idiot unfit to call himself an American. I doubt that he's got the balls to fire the first shot at a 21st century Ft Sumter. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Of course the states can stick with this filthy bloated out of control abusive debt ridden government and see how it works out. It is time for this union to be dissolved because it isn't working out very well. Dr Paul has it right. Dr Paul is an idiot unfit to call himself an American. I doubt that he's got the balls to fire the first shot at a 21st century Ft Sumter. He's a man without principle who's fishing for imbeciles to send him more money. MONEYBOMB. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 3:56:19 PM EDT
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He's an irrelevant asshole stirring up his clones. I doubt if he was King that he'd allow free speech Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why should he shut his mouth? He's an irrelevant asshole stirring up his clones. I doubt if he was King that he'd allow free speech Derp Derp. I think that we should move on from secession and begin kicking states out. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 3:56:26 PM EDT
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.......then 47 more states joined said union Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I do think you meant this: "The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America," .......then 47 more states joined said union Holy fucking shit. Just stop. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 3:56:30 PM EDT
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Whig, please. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The US was founded on rebellion. As usual I agree entirely with Dr Paul. no it wasn't it was found on revolution after colonialism. Whig, please. 
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Posted: 9/30/2014 3:57:08 PM EDT
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.......then 47 more states joined said union Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I do think you meant this: "The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America," .......then 47 more states joined said union 60 states? Derp Derp |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 3:58:25 PM EDT
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.......then 47 more states joined said union Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I do think you meant this: "The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America," .......then 47 more states joined said union 47? There's 60 States in the United States? And crack a history book. Your "perpetual union" was dissolved the first time when 3/4 of those States adopted the United States constitution of 1787. This eliminated the token national government of the confederation. By the time the new government was formed, Rhode Island had still not ratified and was not a part of the United States of America. It was only through pressure of a threat of embargo that they finally DID ratify the new Constitution. They had previously voted on it and rejected it. Prior to the ratification of the articles of confederation, they weren't even united in anything but common struggle against the British. Abraham Lincoln pulled the doctrine of perpetual union out of his ass. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 3:58:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: .......then 47 more states joined said union Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I do think you meant this: "The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America," .......then 47 more states joined said union Ummmm
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Posted: 9/30/2014 4:00:26 PM EDT
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47? There's 60 States in the United States? And crack a history book. Your "perpetual union" was dissolved the first time when 3/4 of those States adopted the United States constitution of 1787. This eliminated the token national government of the confederation. By the time the new government was formed, Rhode Island had still not ratified and was not a part of the United States of America. It was only through pressure of a threat of embargo that they finally DID ratify the new Constitution. They had previously voted on it and rejected it. Prior to the ratification of the articles of confederation, they weren't even united in anything but common struggle against the British. Abraham Lincoln pulled the doctrine of perpetual union out of his ass. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I do think you meant this: "The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America," .......then 47 more states joined said union 47? There's 60 States in the United States? And crack a history book. Your "perpetual union" was dissolved the first time when 3/4 of those States adopted the United States constitution of 1787. This eliminated the token national government of the confederation. By the time the new government was formed, Rhode Island had still not ratified and was not a part of the United States of America. It was only through pressure of a threat of embargo that they finally DID ratify the new Constitution. They had previously voted on it and rejected it. Prior to the ratification of the articles of confederation, they weren't even united in anything but common struggle against the British. Abraham Lincoln pulled the doctrine of perpetual union out of his ass. Typo. You got me. You just proved Ron Paul is righteous.  . The articles of confederation were set aside for perpetual union, no?
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Posted: 9/30/2014 4:01:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Unlike European empires, every state voluntarily joined the union to form a More perfect union. A few mouth breathers got upset over an election and tried to destroy that union and were defeated. People that push secession are just as dangerous to this nation as communists and terrorists. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: "United" States of America. "United" Kingdom Unlike European empires, every state voluntarily joined the union to form a More perfect union. A few mouth breathers got upset over an election and tried to destroy that union and were defeated. People that push secession are just as dangerous to this nation as communists and terrorists. So when terrorists and communists infiltrate and seize control of a government, succession from that would be just as bad or worse? I'm not claiming we're being ruled by communists and terrorists (yet) but to deny that we're not tip toeing there is delusional.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 4:02:09 PM EDT
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Typo. You got me. You just proved Ron Paul is righteous. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I do think you meant this: "The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America," .......then 47 more states joined said union 47? There's 60 States in the United States? And crack a history book. Your "perpetual union" was dissolved the first time when 3/4 of those States adopted the United States constitution of 1787. This eliminated the token national government of the confederation. By the time the new government was formed, Rhode Island had still not ratified and was not a part of the United States of America. It was only through pressure of a threat of embargo that they finally DID ratify the new Constitution. They had previously voted on it and rejected it. Prior to the ratification of the articles of confederation, they weren't even united in anything but common struggle against the British. Abraham Lincoln pulled the doctrine of perpetual union out of his ass. Typo. You got me. You just proved Ron Paul is righteous. Ron Paul is a retired politician and no reason to continue gnashing your teeth. Then again, your dentist's boat payments won't make themselves. 
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Posted: 9/30/2014 4:02:27 PM EDT
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Typo. You got me. You just proved Ron Paul is righteous. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I do think you meant this: "The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America," .......then 47 more states joined said union 47? There's 60 States in the United States? And crack a history book. Your "perpetual union" was dissolved the first time when 3/4 of those States adopted the United States constitution of 1787. This eliminated the token national government of the confederation. By the time the new government was formed, Rhode Island had still not ratified and was not a part of the United States of America. It was only through pressure of a threat of embargo that they finally DID ratify the new Constitution. They had previously voted on it and rejected it. Prior to the ratification of the articles of confederation, they weren't even united in anything but common struggle against the British. Abraham Lincoln pulled the doctrine of perpetual union out of his ass. Typo. You got me. You just proved Ron Paul is righteous. So there is no scenario where you'd agree that secession is appropriate? If only there were some document we could reference for a founders perspective on that. Something like... When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them... That would sound pretty good to me. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 4:02:59 PM EDT
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meh. I kind of agree with him on that point. It would not disappoint.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 4:03:03 PM EDT
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States joined freely and if they like they can leave.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 4:04:09 PM EDT
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Ron Paul is a retired politician and no reason to continue gnashing your teeth. Then again, your dentist's boat payments won't make themselves.
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I do think you meant this: "The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America," .......then 47 more states joined said union 47? There's 60 States in the United States? And crack a history book. Your "perpetual union" was dissolved the first time when 3/4 of those States adopted the United States constitution of 1787. This eliminated the token national government of the confederation. By the time the new government was formed, Rhode Island had still not ratified and was not a part of the United States of America. It was only through pressure of a threat of embargo that they finally DID ratify the new Constitution. They had previously voted on it and rejected it. Prior to the ratification of the articles of confederation, they weren't even united in anything but common struggle against the British. Abraham Lincoln pulled the doctrine of perpetual union out of his ass. Typo. You got me. You just proved Ron Paul is righteous. Ron Paul is a retired politician and no reason to continue gnashing your teeth. Then again, your dentist's boat payments won't make themselves.
Retired politicians don't continually run their mouth, maintain a cult following or support a son that will run for potus. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 4:04:43 PM EDT
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Why should he shut his mouth? He shouldn't. He's a great spokesperson for libertarians. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 4:04:47 PM EDT
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26 replies in, and I'm the first one to point out that the URL is borked, and nobody read the article before commenting?
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Posted: 9/30/2014 4:05:18 PM EDT
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The doctrine of perpetual union is absurd on it's face. Forget secession for a moment: What happens if 3/4 of the States adopt an amendment to repeal the US Constitution and dissolve the Union?
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Posted: 9/30/2014 4:06:01 PM EDT
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Why should he shut his mouth? Because he doesn't agree with RP. Typical liberal bullshit. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 4:06:44 PM EDT
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26 replies in, and I'm the first one to point out that the URL is borked, and nobody read the article before commenting? Go get me some Commodore Perry. 
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Posted: 9/30/2014 4:07:45 PM EDT
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Because he doesn't agree with RP. Typical liberal bullshit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why should he shut his mouth? Because he doesn't agree with RP. Typical liberal bullshit. Ron Paul and the Libertarians are far closer to the Liberals than I'll ever be. He should just shut his mouth quit agitating. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 4:08:44 PM EDT
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Go get me some Commodore Perry. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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26 replies in, and I'm the first one to point out that the URL is borked, and nobody read the article before commenting? Go get me some Commodore Perry. Here's the actual article, in case somebody wants to read it first. OP left off a few digits:
http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/ron-paul-thinks-there-should-be-more-secessionist-movements-in-the-u-s-20140930 |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 4:09:12 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/30/2014 4:09:29 PM EDT
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The doctrine of perpetual union is absurd on it's face. Forget secession for a moment: What happens if 3/4 of the States adopt an amendment to repeal the US Constitution and dissolve the Union? Then its civil war, but that will never happen-if it does we become the Balkans. Too many righteous young northern boys gave their lives to end slavery and preserve the Union for later generations to piss it away. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 4:10:02 PM EDT
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Dr Paul is an idiot unfit to call himself an American. I doubt that he's got the balls to fire the first shot at a 21st century Ft Sumter. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Of course the states can stick with this filthy bloated out of control abusive debt ridden government and see how it works out. It is time for this union to be dissolved because it isn't working out very well. Dr Paul has it right. Dr Paul is an idiot unfit to call himself an American. I doubt that he's got the balls to fire the first shot at a 21st century Ft Sumter. The idiots are the assholes that are fucking up this country with an out of control debt ridden abusive government. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 4:10:46 PM EDT
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Typo. You got me. You just proved Ron Paul is righteous. . The articles of confederation were set aside for perpetual union, no?Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I do think you meant this: "The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America," .......then 47 more states joined said union 47? There's 60 States in the United States? And crack a history book. Your "perpetual union" was dissolved the first time when 3/4 of those States adopted the United States constitution of 1787. This eliminated the token national government of the confederation. By the time the new government was formed, Rhode Island had still not ratified and was not a part of the United States of America. It was only through pressure of a threat of embargo that they finally DID ratify the new Constitution. They had previously voted on it and rejected it. Prior to the ratification of the articles of confederation, they weren't even united in anything but common struggle against the British. Abraham Lincoln pulled the doctrine of perpetual union out of his ass. Typo. You got me. You just proved Ron Paul is righteous. . The articles of confederation were set aside for perpetual union, no?You mean math fail. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 4:10:51 PM EDT
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26 replies in, and I'm the first one to point out that the URL is borked, and nobody read the article before commenting? Lol |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 4:11:09 PM EDT
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Ron Paul and the Libertarians are far closer to the Liberals than I'll ever be. 
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Posted: 9/30/2014 4:11:10 PM EDT
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Here's the actual article, in case somebody wants to read it first. OP left off a few digits:
http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/ron-paul-thinks-there-should-be-more-secessionist-movements-in-the-u-s-20140930 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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26 replies in, and I'm the first one to point out that the URL is borked, and nobody read the article before commenting? Go get me some Commodore Perry. Here's the actual article, in case somebody wants to read it first. OP left off a few digits:
http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/ron-paul-thinks-there-should-be-more-secessionist-movements-in-the-u-s-20140930 So you're going to translate for him? He doesn't really want it to happen but likes seeing the movement? |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 4:11:45 PM EDT
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The idiots are the assholes that are fucking up this country with an out of control debt ridden abusive government. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Of course the states can stick with this filthy bloated out of control abusive debt ridden government and see how it works out. It is time for this union to be dissolved because it isn't working out very well. Dr Paul has it right. Dr Paul is an idiot unfit to call himself an American. I doubt that he's got the balls to fire the first shot at a 21st century Ft Sumter. The idiots are the assholes that are fucking up this country with an out of control debt ridden abusive government. We solve that with ballots, not bullets. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 4:12:17 PM EDT
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Ron Paul and the Libertarians are far closer to the Liberals than I'll ever be. He should just shut his mouth quit agitating. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why should he shut his mouth? Because he doesn't agree with RP. Typical liberal bullshit. Ron Paul and the Libertarians are far closer to the Liberals than I'll ever be. He should just shut his mouth quit agitating. 
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Posted: 9/30/2014 4:12:30 PM EDT
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You mean math fail. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I do think you meant this: "The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America," .......then 47 more states joined said union 47? There's 60 States in the United States? And crack a history book. Your "perpetual union" was dissolved the first time when 3/4 of those States adopted the United States constitution of 1787. This eliminated the token national government of the confederation. By the time the new government was formed, Rhode Island had still not ratified and was not a part of the United States of America. It was only through pressure of a threat of embargo that they finally DID ratify the new Constitution. They had previously voted on it and rejected it. Prior to the ratification of the articles of confederation, they weren't even united in anything but common struggle against the British. Abraham Lincoln pulled the doctrine of perpetual union out of his ass. Typo. You got me. You just proved Ron Paul is righteous. . The articles of confederation were set aside for perpetual union, no?You mean math fail. yeah that's it I'm too stupid to subtract 13 from 50
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Posted: 9/30/2014 4:14:51 PM EDT
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Then its civil war, but that will never happen-if it does we become the Balkans. Too many righteous young northern boys gave their lives to end slavery and preserve the Union for later generations to piss it away. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The doctrine of perpetual union is absurd on it's face. Forget secession for a moment: What happens if 3/4 of the States adopt an amendment to repeal the US Constitution and dissolve the Union? Then its civil war, but that will never happen-if it does we become the Balkans. Too many righteous young northern boys gave their lives to end slavery and preserve the Union for later generations to piss it away. You can't be serious. If it's civil war over a legitimately ratified amendment to dissolve the Union, that means the USA no longer exists and the Federal government is fighting to exist with no constitutional authorization, whatsoever. Do you really not understand that? What basis for existence do you think the USA has, if not the Constitution? |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 4:15:17 PM EDT
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Ron Paul is a puppet, same as any other.
That said, secession... 
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Posted: 9/30/2014 4:15:37 PM EDT
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So you're going to translate for him? He doesn't really want it to happen but likes seeing the movement? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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26 replies in, and I'm the first one to point out that the URL is borked, and nobody read the article before commenting? Go get me some Commodore Perry. Here's the actual article, in case somebody wants to read it first. OP left off a few digits:
http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/ron-paul-thinks-there-should-be-more-secessionist-movements-in-the-u-s-20140930 So you're going to translate for him? He doesn't really want it to happen but likes seeing the movement? Are you under the impression that I agree with him or something? BTW, here's the essay of his they're talking about: http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2014/september/28/scottish-referendum-gives-reasons-to-be-hopeful.aspx |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 4:16:25 PM EDT
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We solve that with ballots, not bullets. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Of course the states can stick with this filthy bloated out of control abusive debt ridden government and see how it works out. It is time for this union to be dissolved because it isn't working out very well. Dr Paul has it right. Dr Paul is an idiot unfit to call himself an American. I doubt that he's got the balls to fire the first shot at a 21st century Ft Sumter. The idiots are the assholes that are fucking up this country with an out of control debt ridden abusive government. We solve that with ballots, not bullets. Secession would start with a ballot. |
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