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Posted: 9/30/2014 10:47:12 AM EDT
Giving yourself garand thumb twice. well, for science!

http://imgur.com/a/BLIlJ

Link Posted: 9/30/2014 10:48:14 AM EDT
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What a dumbass.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 10:49:34 AM EDT
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I dont think I want a garand anymore
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 10:50:30 AM EDT
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What a Dumbasses for doing that on purpose.  Mental midgets walk among us.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 10:51:35 AM EDT
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Keep the heel of your hand against the op rod as you load it and you'll be fine.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 10:52:25 AM EDT
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Fuck that shit.

Still havn't had it happen to me, hoping it never does.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 10:52:28 AM EDT
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It only happens if you do it the wrong way.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 10:52:46 AM EDT
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Yes you do.  Garand thumb is quite easy to avoid.

I've shot mine in 3-gun matches, which means a LOT of reloads done as fast as I could pull them off.  Keep the ridge of your hand on the op rod handle and it's a non-issue.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 10:52:52 AM EDT
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An old WWII combat vet taught me how to avoid the "M1 thumb"............MANY years ago.

Now I did pull a really stupid fucking boner ONCE with a Garand but my thumb was not involved.......


ETA: not THAT kind of boner!!!!!!!!!
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 10:53:43 AM EDT
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"the finest battle implement ever devised"

Yeah, in the 40s.

I don't get the cult around these things, other than for nostalgia.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 10:55:05 AM EDT
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Mine bit my index finger. Ouchie...

My own damned fault, and a lesson I'll never have to be taught again.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 10:56:00 AM EDT
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Yeah, in the 40s.



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Compared to the other battle rifles of the era they are fantastic. The only rifle that comes close is my Swiss K31. The Moisin-Nagant fanclub is the one I really don't get.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 10:57:20 AM EDT
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No way I'm doing that with my Hakim just to make a video.  


Link Posted: 9/30/2014 10:57:21 AM EDT
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Well, that is when George made the claim.

I have no doubt that Patton would have been an M4-loving motherfucker if someone had handed him one.  
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 10:58:10 AM EDT
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They're beautiful smooth firing rifles that had stood up to some shitty environments without major issue, they fire a solid round, they're accurate (at least accurate enough for USGI up to the 60's), they're history.


I love mine, and would have no problems taking it into battle if SHTF, hell I'm more comfortable with it than my AR.

That said, there are many modern firearms that are better suited for general combat than the M1.   30 rounds of 5.56 that's retarded easy to reload will probably do someone of a hell of a lot better than 8 rounds of 30.06 that can be difficult for some to reload.



Different strokes and all that
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 10:58:31 AM EDT
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"the finest battle implement ever devised"

Yeah, in the 40s.

I don't get the cult around these things, other than for nostalgia.

  Compared to the other battle rifles of the era they are fantastic. The only rifle that comes close is my Swiss K31. The Moisin-Nagant fanclub is the one I really don't get.


100% agree with everything you said.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 11:00:44 AM EDT
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You commie democrat heathen.  Take it back!
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 11:01:24 AM EDT
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My dad was a WW 2 combat vet with the 101st abn . not only can you not get Garand thumb but you can also reload with a partial clip.  You can also reload faster than you would imagine. The story about being attacked when the clip ejects is pure bullshit as well . tell me you can help that sprong noise over the sounds of two way gunfire and explosions
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 11:01:37 AM EDT
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I have fired many thousands of rounds out of an M1 and never had that happen to me yet.
I shot a barrel out of an M1 and it never happened to me.


Of course I actually looked at how it worked and acted accordingly (paying attention to what you are doing is important).


This is another one of those things like recoil, that is frequently talked about so the person talking about it appears (in his mind) to be doing something dangerous and is therefore more of a man.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 11:03:17 AM EDT
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Yeah, in the 40s.



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It is the last real deal US Surplus Rifle that can be purchased straight from the Government and was used in a war that we actually won. That is the deal with it.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 11:03:44 AM EDT
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Avatar????
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 11:04:24 AM EDT
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I've never had it happen, but Ive come damn close.  You have to get your thumb out of that action RFN.

That looks like it hurt.  
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 11:04:27 AM EDT
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Well of course in the 40s.  Thats when the statement was made.  And the statement wasn't "The finest battle implement that will ever be devised."


Sorry you don't like them, but you suck at trolling.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 11:04:31 AM EDT
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I can't understand why someone would willingly do that to themselves.  I got M1 Thumb within an hour of getting the gun.  That was a form of self loathing I'd like to not replicate again.  Watching your thumbnail grow back over a period of months isn't fun.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 11:04:47 AM EDT
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"the finest battle implement ever devised"

Yeah, in the 40s.

I don't get the cult around these things, other than for nostalgia.

  It is the last real deal US Surplus Rifle that can be purchased straight from the Government and was used in a war that we actually won. That is the deal with it.

Now if only we were a police department we'd be able to buy surplus M14's, M16's and M4's for next to nothing
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 11:05:30 AM EDT
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IBFTC


In before Fluffy the Cat
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 11:06:19 AM EDT
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I've had M1 thumb, (shooting in a John C Garand Match left handed with the loading of a clip during the rapid 10 prone string) Ouch!!


Definitely DO NOT WANT hakim thumb
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 11:07:41 AM EDT
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Well of course in the 40s.  Thats when the statement was made.  And the statement wasn't "The finest battle implement that will ever be devised."


Sorry you don't like them, but you suck at trolling.
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"the finest battle implement ever devised"

Yeah, in the 40s.

I don't get the cult around these things, other than for nostalgia.



Well of course in the 40s.  Thats when the statement was made.  And the statement wasn't "The finest battle implement that will ever be devised."


Sorry you don't like them, but you suck at trolling.


It's fun to shoot.
Anyone who doesn't like semi auto 30-06 is questionable
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 11:08:56 AM EDT
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"the finest battle implement ever devised"

Yeah, in the 40s.

I don't get the cult around these things, other than for nostalgia.

  It is the last real deal US Surplus Rifle that can be purchased straight from the Government and was used in a war that we actually won. That is the deal with it.



Link Posted: 9/30/2014 11:09:53 AM EDT
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Well bless your heart.
8 rounds a quick as you can pull the trigger, great iron sights, great sight radius, true AP ammo still available, 30 caliber, and history.  It can put a bigger hole in something, at a great distance than my M4gery all day long and turns cover into concealment while doing it.
Other than that,  no reason.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 11:10:01 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/30/2014 11:10:42 AM EDT
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Lets see him do that with a Ljungman.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 11:11:08 AM EDT
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That bolt wasn't even locked back. And it didn't smash the thumb very much.

I'm calling BS on the vid. Was either air soft (look how shiny the handguard is) or no recoil spring, just being moved by hand.

Also, anyone who gets M1 thumb is an idiot and probably shouldn't be handling firearms or any other dangerous implement.

I'm also willing to bet that anyone who doesn't appreciate them has never shot one.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 11:12:08 AM EDT
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It only happens if you do it the wrong way.
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It only happens if you do it the wrong way.



This +1


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Lets see him do that with a Ljungman.



He wouldn't be doing that twice...  Well, not on the same hand anyway.  
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 11:15:14 AM EDT
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I have fired many thousands of rounds out of an M1 and never had that happen to me yet.
I shot a barrel out of an M1 and it never happened to me.


Of course I actually looked at how it worked and acted accordingly (paying attention to what you are doing is important).


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Yeah,  it happened to me once, 39 years ago when I was a cadet. Not once since then.

Link Posted: 9/30/2014 11:19:45 AM EDT
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"the finest battle implement ever devised"

Yeah, in the 40s.

I don't get the cult around these things, other than for nostalgia.

  It is the last real deal US Surplus Rifle that can be purchased straight from the Government and was used in a war that we actually won. That is the deal with it.


Right, so nostalgia.

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"the finest battle implement ever devised"

Yeah, in the 40s.

I don't get the cult around these things, other than for nostalgia.



Well of course in the 40s.  Thats when the statement was made.  And the statement wasn't "The finest battle implement that will ever be devised."


Sorry you don't like them, but you suck at trolling.


As if I give a shit what you think?  Have a great day.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 11:22:10 AM EDT
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I've never had it come close when loading, I always have to heel the charging handle forward to load the first round. Action open and no clip? All bets are off.

Several years ago the GCA published an article in their magazine about a squad of cadets or NG units setting their Garands up during inspection so that as the dickweed Lt put his thumb in the loading area it would snap shut. Barely having the op rod catch engaged. It worked on the first one
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 11:23:23 AM EDT
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Semi-auto 30-06?  Only real downside to the Garand is the limitation of scope mounting otherwise its a robust fast firing field rifle with punch.  The cult around them is no different then the 1911, but Garands are not the jammo-matics that 1911's are.
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Semi-auto 30-06?  Only real downside to the Garand is the limitation of scope mounting otherwise its a robust fast firing field rifle with punch.  The cult around them is no different then the 1911, but Garands are not the jammo-matics that 1911's are.
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"the finest battle implement ever devised"

Yeah, in the 40s.

I don't get the cult around these things, other than for nostalgia.


Semi-auto 30-06?  Only real downside to the Garand is the limitation of scope mounting otherwise its a robust fast firing field rifle with punch.  The cult around them is no different then the 1911, but Garands are not the jammo-matics that 1911's are.

1911's are not Jam-o-matics...
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 11:27:33 AM EDT
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Fuck that shit.

Still havn't had it happen to me, hoping it never does.
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Link Posted: 9/30/2014 11:29:28 AM EDT
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Keep the heel of your hand against the op rod as you load it and you'll be fine.
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I dont think I want a garand anymore




Keep the heel of your hand against the op rod as you load it and you'll be fine.
Yep.



I've never gotten it.



That said, I never had to load a garand, in the cold, with no sleep, while Germans are shooting at me.



 
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 11:30:04 AM EDT
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Fuck that shit.

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I never did it either. Now I won't since I sold my Garand.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 11:30:06 AM EDT
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Who could not love a rifle that is built like a brick, has decent sights, no mag to replace, and that can shoot through trees? Not a frontline arm anymore but it'll do in a pinch.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 11:31:00 AM EDT
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Well, that is when George made the claim.

I have no doubt that Patton would have been an M4-loving motherfucker if someone had handed him one.  
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Well, that is when George made the claim.

I have no doubt that Patton would have been an M4-loving motherfucker if someone had handed him one.  

He'd have wondered why the mouse round.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 11:35:08 AM EDT
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Who could not love a rifle that is built like a brick, has decent sights, no mag to replace, and that can shoot through trees? Not a frontline arm anymore but it'll do in a pinch.
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"the finest battle implement ever devised"

Yeah, in the 40s.

I don't get the cult around these things, other than for nostalgia.

Who could not love a rifle that is built like a brick, has decent sights, no mag to replace, and that can shoot through trees? Not a frontline arm anymore but it'll do in a pinch.


It weighs too much.  The ammo weighs too much.  The magazine capacity is laughable.  Iron sights are wonderful but limited options for mounting optics to take advantage of that heavier ammo isn't as wonderful.

What makes me laugh is how everyone focused like a laserbeam on my post and is basically ignoring the video.  

Oh lawd, someone doesn't like what I like, everyone dogpile on him.   This doesn't include you, AlvinYork, who were polite.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 11:35:41 AM EDT
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I disagree.  GSP was a visionary and a shooter.  Once the "mouse round" was explained and demonstrated, he probably would have used his own fortune to get as many as he could in his troops' hands.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 11:36:02 AM EDT
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A bunch of firearms from this period like to eat fingers if you mess around with them, not just the Garand. As mentioned, the Ljungman (AG-42, Hakim, Rasheed) likes to do it, as does the Mauser C96. Just about anything semi-auto that has or can have the bolt hang up on the follower as a bolt stop will do this if you screw with it while it's unloaded.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 11:36:42 AM EDT
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4/10 no blood no wife pic
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 11:49:59 AM EDT
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It weighs too much.  The ammo weighs too much.  The magazine capacity is laughable.  Iron sights are wonderful but limited options for mounting optics to take advantage of that heavier ammo isn't as wonderful.

What makes me laugh is how everyone focused like a laserbeam on my post and is basically ignoring the video.  

Oh lawd, someone doesn't like what I like, everyone dogpile on him.   This doesn't include you, AlvinYork, who were polite.
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"the finest battle implement ever devised"

Yeah, in the 40s.

I don't get the cult around these things, other than for nostalgia.

Who could not love a rifle that is built like a brick, has decent sights, no mag to replace, and that can shoot through trees? Not a frontline arm anymore but it'll do in a pinch.


It weighs too much.  The ammo weighs too much.  The magazine capacity is laughable.  Iron sights are wonderful but limited options for mounting optics to take advantage of that heavier ammo isn't as wonderful.

What makes me laugh is how everyone focused like a laserbeam on my post and is basically ignoring the video.  

Oh lawd, someone doesn't like what I like, everyone dogpile on him.   This doesn't include you, AlvinYork, who were polite.

train with it, fire discipline, longer range capability than the M4, like I said, not exactly frontline, but it'll do if you have to use it. I feel comfortable with mine, as I shoot them when I can afford to (sure would love to get in some more time now and again), I would not feel at too great a disadvantage going up against some one down range shooting at me with with an M4  at 600m if I had my M1 if we both were working with iron sights.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 11:56:57 AM EDT
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Or a Hakim........he would have been wiping the blood off the camera lens, then went digging thru the magazine trying to find his thumbnail.....
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