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Posted: 9/30/2014 9:21:30 AM EDT
Two container ships crashed into each other. How does this even happen? was someone drunk?
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Oh no, all that crap from China might have gone over the side! The horror!
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Two container ships crashed into each other. How does this even happen? was someone drunk? link with video View Quote How does this happen? Idiots who are going to get their licenses pulled and most likely arrested. You should read up about "Arbre du Ténéré", most isolated tree in the world... no tree in 250 miles in any direction from it.... and some drunk driver plowed it down. |
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I've been in a collision at sea. It happens more than most people think. The pilot has to be able to think far ahead because the ship takes a long time to react.
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Also could have lost steering like the Chinese ship that plowed into the Boardwalk in New Orleans. It is standard procedure for the bridge to blame engineers
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Quoted: They don't seem to have good brakes either..... http://youtu.be/3cN78W8bTP0 http://youtu.be/Ufx5x1ZLmec View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I've been in a collision at sea. It happens more than most people think. The pilot has to be able to think far ahead because the ship takes a long time to react. They don't seem to have good brakes either..... http://youtu.be/3cN78W8bTP0 http://youtu.be/Ufx5x1ZLmec those are intentionally beached, they are "ship breaking" |
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Quoted: They don't seem to have good brakes either..... http://youtu.be/3cN78W8bTP0 http://youtu.be/Ufx5x1ZLmec View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I've been in a collision at sea. It happens more than most people think. The pilot has to be able to think far ahead because the ship takes a long time to react. They don't seem to have good brakes either..... http://youtu.be/3cN78W8bTP0 http://youtu.be/Ufx5x1ZLmec They did those on purpose. There's a scrapyard in India I think it is. They ram the boats onto the beach.
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How does this even happen? View Quote COLREGS are no joke, but it's amazing what happens on the seas - even with commercial vessels. 12 hour shifts are the max you can be forced to man the helm, but being 'volunteered' is a whole other thing. Auto-pilots, AIS and collision alarms are a wonderful thing - until Mohammed steps away to use the head. Mechanical failures frequently leave a ship adrift, which isn't always clear based on radio calls, lights, AIS, radar or other instruments. While completely against the International Navigation Rules - mates are often left at the helm without oversight by a captain. Lastly, while the rules dictate a port-to-port side passage when in close quarters (with a two horn sounding to validate), there are several examples of where comm problems or currents caused confusion. While English is the universal language used in the commercial industry - as you might imagine, not everyone is particularly fluent in it. The number of collisions in spite of COLREGS (International Regulations for Preventing Collisions at Sea) is mind-numbing - outside of very limited navigation areas like the Suez. 673' wide (with most of your depth at mid-channel) is not a lot of room for large ships like this to pass. Container ships aren't the most nimble things on the seas, either. It doesn't take a whole lot to cause problems like this. I'm actually surprised it doesn't happen more often! |
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Somebody forgot their required reading. http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51oasLHXrKL.jpg View Quote The reviews are worthy of a read How To Avoid Huge Ships on Amazon |
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They don't seem to have good brakes either..... http://youtu.be/3cN78W8bTP0 http://youtu.be/Ufx5x1ZLmec View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I've been in a collision at sea. It happens more than most people think. The pilot has to be able to think far ahead because the ship takes a long time to react. They don't seem to have good brakes either..... http://youtu.be/3cN78W8bTP0 http://youtu.be/Ufx5x1ZLmec That first one would make a great "In" gif. |
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That container ship was stacked with containers. That was probably just one of several ships heading to the US to restock Walmart shelves.
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A bunch of somebodies are about to get fucked by the long dick of general average.
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did the front fall off?
did it have to be towed out of the environment? will it buff out? |
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Somebody forgot their required reading. http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51oasLHXrKL.jpg The reviews are worthy of a read How To Avoid Huge Ships on Amazon The first review is art . |
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Audio from the bridge of the USS Porter from their collision in the SoH
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View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Funny as hell. Those prices for a paper-back are a joke too. |
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View Quote Now that's a pit maneuver. Looks like it's just a big ole game of bumper cars out in the deep blue sea. |
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They don't seem to have good brakes either..... http://youtu.be/3cN78W8bTP0 http://youtu.be/Ufx5x1ZLmec View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I've been in a collision at sea. It happens more than most people think. The pilot has to be able to think far ahead because the ship takes a long time to react. They don't seem to have good brakes either..... http://youtu.be/3cN78W8bTP0 http://youtu.be/Ufx5x1ZLmec Moored! Shift colors! |
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View Quote That sound you heard was several careers sinking into the ocean forever... WTF? |
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That sound you heard was several careers sinking into the ocean forever... WTF? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
That sound you heard was several careers sinking into the ocean forever... WTF? Two actions that are almost never right: slow to 5 knots, turn left |
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That was nothing compared to the boating accident I had with all of my firearms on board
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Two actions that are almost never right: slow to 5 knots, turn left View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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That sound you heard was several careers sinking into the ocean forever... WTF? Two actions that are almost never right: slow to 5 knots, turn left For those not familiar, the 'stand on' vessel (the one that has the right of way) is obligated to maintain speed and course until a collision cannot be avoided. When evasive action must be taken, it must always be taken to starboard (right) - NOT to port (left). As H46Driver noted - "reduce speed and turn to port" is not something you'd expect to hear from someone with rudimentary knowledge.... |
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Apparently what is believed to have happened is that the German ship lost hydraulic control of their rudder as they were passing the Danish ship, and veered into them.
So it seems to be more of a mechanical failure than some error or bad judgment on the part of the pilots (or whoever was steering). |
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It will buff out: http://www.vesselfinder.com/images/media/115f302d290dd257e9d1333abd8c8a1f.jpg View Quote The Maersk ship lost three containers, but apparently one was recovered. (Do they have a crane specifically for fishing containers out of the drink?) |
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Article mentions they collided at the mouth of the canal. I am not sure wide the dredging is there - but it is not as if this was in open sea.
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Apparently what is believed to have happened is that the German ship lost hydraulic control of their rudder as they were passing the Danish ship, and veered into them. So it seems to be more of a mechanical failure than some error or bad judgment on the part of the pilots (or whoever was steering). View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Apparently what is believed to have happened is that the German ship lost hydraulic control of their rudder as they were passing the Danish ship, and veered into them. So it seems to be more of a mechanical failure than some error or bad judgment on the part of the pilots (or whoever was steering). If that's the case, it sounds like a case of 'ship happens.' In a navigation-limited channel in close proximity - a mechanical failure like that is going to leave a mark on something. Dropping an anchor is about the only option I can think of in that case, and that's not really an option in the Suez while underway. Quoted:
The Maersk ship lost three containers, but apparently one was recovered. (Do they have a crane specifically for fishing containers out of the drink?) I read a report the other day that several thousand shipping containers are lost at sea each year. The scary thing is that these containers frequently float about 1' below the surface of the ocean for months, and follow the gulf stream. I have to say besides fire - hitting one of those is my worse nightmare while at sea on my relatively small vessel with a fiberglass hull. I carry rubber-lined boards with eyelets that can be used to attempt a seal on a breach that big, but it's a long-shot and you have to be johnny-on-the-spot, in calm seas, and very lucky. Reading threads on "what's the craziest thing you've ever hit" on the mariner boards is always fun . |
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