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Posted: 9/16/2014 11:28:10 AM EDT
Can't hear? NO PROBLEM


I am ashamed of my state....
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so we just carpet bomb them with fabulous shoes with matching purses and we will be golden!
Link Posted: 9/16/2014 11:33:02 AM EDT
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Every airman an administrator...
Link Posted: 9/16/2014 11:33:38 AM EDT
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Why not, most are mentally challenged IME.
Link Posted: 9/16/2014 11:34:42 AM EDT
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There is no right to serve in the military.
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Many officers are "challenged" anyways.
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Good move.

Could save money by not having to provide them with hearing protection when working
in proximity to running aircraft.
Link Posted: 9/16/2014 11:38:17 AM EDT
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That article lost me at "...two bills in Congress".  
Link Posted: 9/16/2014 11:38:42 AM EDT
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Wow... So much for SLLS..

Or LP/OP
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Ok, I'll bite.  Didn't get out much?
Link Posted: 9/16/2014 11:44:03 AM EDT
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I have no problem with the deaf serving as long as they are no where near a combat zone.
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I'm 100% on board with this, the only purpose of the military is to be a gigantic social experiment with guns and shit.
Link Posted: 9/16/2014 11:45:42 AM EDT
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I'd be ok with a waiver for a hearing disabled person who wears corrective equipment and can hear then just fine. I guess. Maybe.

Biggest issue I see is if that were to happen, all the fatties would say that their weight is a disability and try to stay in. We have enough fat SNCOs on permanent profile to let that happen.

Serving is a privilege. Not a right.
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They can be artillery

But really, I don't see a huge problem as long as it's admin, cook, or something like that.
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That would negativly affect their promotion.......see how it works
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Bird says it's a matter of deaf people being treated equally with those who can hear.




But they aren't equal when it comes to military suitability.




I agree with Joker, I was born deaf. However, there's a difference between combat and non-combat roles. I hope they stick with just non-combat.





Combat roles are obviously a no-go. Non-combat roles are ok. They can easily take care of the normal roles that hearing people can do in non-combat. That frees up more manpower for those in combat situations. Are these hard of hearing people becoming military paralegals, IT specialists, Mechanics, Nurses? If so, I'd say go for it.








 
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Don't let them capture you... they won't hear your screams as they play hide the banana with you!
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When do I get my chance to be a gymnast ?
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Well there is a new sig line.
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That would negativly affect their promotion.......see how it works
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That would negativly affect their promotion.......see how it works

^ Yup.
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I agree with Joker, I was born deaf. However, there's a difference between combat and non-combat roles. I hope they stick with just non-combat.



Combat roles are obviously a no-go. Non-combat roles are ok. They can easily take care of the normal roles that hearing people can do in non-combat. That frees up more manpower for those in combat situations. Are these hard of hearing people becoming military paralegals, IT specialists, Mechanics, Nurses? If so, I'd say go for it.




 
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Bird says it's a matter of deaf people being treated equally with those who can hear.


But they aren't equal when it comes to military suitability.


I agree with Joker, I was born deaf. However, there's a difference between combat and non-combat roles. I hope they stick with just non-combat.



Combat roles are obviously a no-go. Non-combat roles are ok. They can easily take care of the normal roles that hearing people can do in non-combat. That frees up more manpower for those in combat situations. Are these hard of hearing people becoming military paralegals, IT specialists, Mechanics, Nurses? If so, I'd say go for it.




 


Gets to deployability and interchangeability of personnel

I can always put a deploy admin or mechanic on the wall to defend the FOB something this would impact the ability to do
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so we just carpet bomb them with fabulous shoes with matching purses and we will be golden!
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so we just carpet bomb them with fabulous shoes with matching purses and we will be golden!


True, but flash-bangs would have a diminished effect.
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Bird says it's a matter of deaf people being treated equally with those who can hear.




But they aren't equal when it comes to military suitability.




I agree with Joker, I was born deaf. However, there's a difference between combat and non-combat roles. I hope they stick with just non-combat.
Combat roles are obviously a no-go. Non-combat roles are ok. They can easily take care of the normal roles that hearing people can do in non-combat. That frees up more manpower for those in combat situations. Are these hard of hearing people becoming military paralegals, IT specialists, Mechanics, Nurses? If so, I'd say go for it.
 




Gets to deployability and interchangeability of personnel



I can always put a deploy admin or mechanic on the wall to defend the FOB something this would impact the ability to do





So don't deploy them to FOBs, keep them at other bases that don't see combat but they can still play a role in serving their military.



 

Link Posted: 9/16/2014 11:55:51 AM EDT
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How would the Airforce TIs even go about training the hearing impaired? They have zero knowledge of how to do so and it will take time to teach them. The are they going to mix the deaf recruits with the normal ones?
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How would the Airforce TIs even go about training the hearing impaired? They have zero knowledge of how to do so and it will take time to teach them. The are they going to mix the deaf recruits with the normal ones?
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There are some that can hear just as well as normal people if not slightly less (I'm one of those although I'm terrible at hearing things at low sound levels and noisy environments).




 




 
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Whew...I thought it was about them wanting to join the military until I read the article....
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Bird says it's a matter of deaf people being treated equally with those who can hear.


But they aren't equal when it comes to military suitability.


I agree with Joker, I was born deaf. However, there's a difference between combat and non-combat roles. I hope they stick with just non-combat.



Combat roles are obviously a no-go. Non-combat roles are ok. They can easily take care of the normal roles that hearing people can do in non-combat. That frees up more manpower for those in combat situations. Are these hard of hearing people becoming military paralegals, IT specialists, Mechanics, Nurses? If so, I'd say go for it.




 


Gets to deployability and interchangeability of personnel

I can always put a deploy admin or mechanic on the wall to defend the FOB something this would impact the ability to do


So don't deploy them to FOBs, keep them at other bases that don't see combat but they can still play a role in serving their military.
 



If you cannot deploy to where ever the military needs you then you are a waste of space and money. You are also a burden on everyone else that can do those things because they pick up your slack.

Edit shit happens at big ass bases that are not fobs. Look up the attack on Camp Bastion.
Link Posted: 9/16/2014 12:03:21 PM EDT
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I saw a debate years ago between David Hackworth and Gloria Allred.
Allred was saying that people in wheelchairs could qualify as submarine helmsman and other nonsense, putting Hackworth into a spin.
He stated that combat wasn't about equality, it was about sticking your bayonet in the other guy before he could do it to you.
classic.
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Bird says it's a matter of deaf people being treated equally with those who can hear.


But they aren't equal when it comes to military suitability.


I agree with Joker, I was born deaf. However, there's a difference between combat and non-combat roles. I hope they stick with just non-combat.



Combat roles are obviously a no-go. Non-combat roles are ok. They can easily take care of the normal roles that hearing people can do in non-combat. That frees up more manpower for those in combat situations. Are these hard of hearing people becoming military paralegals, IT specialists, Mechanics, Nurses? If so, I'd say go for it.




 


Gets to deployability and interchangeability of personnel

I can always put a deploy admin or mechanic on the wall to defend the FOB something this would impact the ability to do


So don't deploy them to FOBs, keep them at other bases that don't see combat but they can still play a role in serving their military.
 



Even those get attacked occasionally; Camp Bastion and Bagram  have been both subject to ground attack in the past
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Bird says it's a matter of deaf people being treated equally with those who can hear.


But they aren't equal when it comes to military suitability.


I agree with Joker, I was born deaf. However, there's a difference between combat and non-combat roles. I hope they stick with just non-combat.



Combat roles are obviously a no-go. Non-combat roles are ok. They can easily take care of the normal roles that hearing people can do in non-combat. That frees up more manpower for those in combat situations. Are these hard of hearing people becoming military paralegals, IT specialists, Mechanics, Nurses? If so, I'd say go for it.




 


Gets to deployability and interchangeability of personnel

I can always put a deploy admin or mechanic on the wall to defend the FOB something this would impact the ability to do


So don't deploy them to FOBs, keep them at other bases that don't see combat but they can still play a role in serving their military.
 




So now you have an extra logistical variable to consider when a unit deploys? Pass.

Hey man great job doing your job and shit, it sucks you can't go with the rest of us and really do your job. Oh BTW you got 2 weeks to teach this other dude how to do your job so he can come with us and do your job and if he can't do your job as well as you do your job its going to fuck us. But that's okay, he is going to get promoted instead of you for doing your job in a place you can't do your job.
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The line between combat and non-combat roles gets pretty fuzzy...especially if somebody is deployed to a situation like Iraq/Afghanistan. There are a ton of people who were not in combat roles who still ended up exposed to risk because bad guys don't give a shit who is in the uniform they're dedicated to shooting at.

The military does combat. Everywhere they go there is the realistic possibility of being surrounded by shitheads who want to kill them. Everyone might not have to bear the physical burdens of an infantryman, but everybody needs to be able to do the combat thing pretty well, in my uneducated opinion.
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no it doesn't.

its the military.  the uniform means combat.

standing around the FOB and an occasional rocket blows by, thats combat.

What you are thinking of is maneuver forces.  Guys who go out to find the enemy, get in his face, and then blow it away.

That line is as thick and defined as it has ever been.
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Bird says it's a matter of deaf people being treated equally with those who can hear.


But they aren't equal when it comes to military suitability.


I agree with Joker, I was born deaf. However, there's a difference between combat and non-combat roles. I hope they stick with just non-combat.



Combat roles are obviously a no-go. Non-combat roles are ok. They can easily take care of the normal roles that hearing people can do in non-combat. That frees up more manpower for those in combat situations. Are these hard of hearing people becoming military paralegals, IT specialists, Mechanics, Nurses? If so, I'd say go for it.




 


Gets to deployability and interchangeability of personnel

I can always put a deploy admin or mechanic on the wall to defend the FOB something this would impact the ability to do


So don't deploy them to FOBs, keep them at other bases that don't see combat but they can still play a role in serving their military.
 


Any base or MOS that does not have the possibility of being in some form of combat is irrelevant and a waste of limited manpower.

I need to be able to grab any random soldier and expect him to have a certain level of capabilities based on his rank and MOS. Those skills do not, and can not, include understanding ASL. Training time is limited. Any time I spend teaching ASL is time I am not teaching people how to do warfighting.
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I was born completely deaf in one ear and that prevented me from getting in during Desert Storm. Actually went my whole life without knowing I was deaf in my left ear until I took the ASVAB and physical. Doctors did exploratory surgery to see if it could be corrected but ultimately advised against it as there was a high risk of damaging the nerves that control the facial muscles.
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The line between combat and non-combat roles gets pretty fuzzy...especially if somebody is deployed to a situation like Iraq/Afghanistan. There are a ton of people who were not in combat roles who still ended up exposed to risk because bad guys don't give a shit who is in the uniform they're dedicated to shooting at.

The military does combat. Everywhere they go there is the realistic possibility of being surrounded by shitheads who want to kill them. Everyone might not have to bear the physical burdens of an infantryman, but everybody needs to be able to do the combat thing pretty well, in my uneducated opinion.
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That has a cost associated with it.  We might get better value by having personnel that will not be put into combat (or are no more likely to have to do the combat thing than a barista ).  
(Some) UAV operators come to mind, as well as some other tech workers.
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Bird says it's a matter of deaf people being treated equally with those who can hear.


But they aren't equal when it comes to military suitability.


I agree with Joker, I was born deaf. However, there's a difference between combat and non-combat roles. I hope they stick with just non-combat.



Combat roles are obviously a no-go. Non-combat roles are ok. They can easily take care of the normal roles that hearing people can do in non-combat. That frees up more manpower for those in combat situations. Are these hard of hearing people becoming military paralegals, IT specialists, Mechanics, Nurses? If so, I'd say go for it.




 


Gets to deployability and interchangeability of personnel

I can always put a deploy admin or mechanic on the wall to defend the FOB something this would impact the ability to do


So don't deploy them to FOBs, keep them at other bases that don't see combat but they can still play a role in serving their military.
 



Like what?  The presence of disabled persons brings a few massive and complex new facets to a workplace.  Safety and basic communication are the first two that come to mind.

What job would a deaf person be able to perform in the military that would be commensurate to a non-disabled person?

I would love to know your opinion on the matter.
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Oh, they've got no time for glory in the Infantry.
Oh, they've got no use for praises loudly sung,
But in every soldier's heart in all the Infantry
Shines the name, shines the name of Rodger Young.

Pvt. Rodger Young (posthumous Medal of Honor, 1943) to his credit  voluntary turned in his Sergeant stripes so he wouldn't endanger his men due to his poor eye sight and hearing. He probably should have been medically discharged.

A leader owes that to his men.
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So don't deploy them to FOBs, keep them at other bases that don't see combat but they can still play a role in serving their military.


 











If you cannot deploy to where ever the military needs you then you are a waste of space and money. You are also a burden on everyone else that can do those things because they pick up your slack.










Clarify the red.











There are deaf people that I know of who can easily kick any hearing person's ass at dissembling an engine block and replacing a cracked valve. There's another one I know of whose a legal assistant and she fought tooth and nail to get that position and even was a huge asset to her law firm.





Don't think for a second that deaf and hard of hearing people are inferior to hearing people. Granted they are not suitable for combat roles in which hearing and communication is essential, but that doesn't mean they are a "waste of space and money and rely upon others to pick up their slack."




 




 
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That has a cost associated with it.  We might get better value by having personnel that will not be put into combat (or are no more likely to have to do the combat thing than a barista ).  
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The line between combat and non-combat roles gets pretty fuzzy...especially if somebody is deployed to a situation like Iraq/Afghanistan. There are a ton of people who were not in combat roles who still ended up exposed to risk because bad guys don't give a shit who is in the uniform they're dedicated to shooting at.

The military does combat. Everywhere they go there is the realistic possibility of being surrounded by shitheads who want to kill them. Everyone might not have to bear the physical burdens of an infantryman, but everybody needs to be able to do the combat thing pretty well, in my uneducated opinion.

That has a cost associated with it.  We might get better value by having personnel that will not be put into combat (or are no more likely to have to do the combat thing than a barista ).  
(Some) UAV operators come to mind, as well as some other tech workers.


UAV operators are operating their UAVs and shit on a totally secure fob.

The Chinese attack. Your UAV hut is blown up and you only have 2/3 of a crew still alive. The totally secure fob is under attack from just about every direction.

Now wake up your squad of fat ass one legged deaf guys and get into the fight. GO.
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There are deaf people that I know of who can easily kick any hearing person's ass at dissembling an engine block and replacing a cracked valve. There's another one I know of whose a legal assistant and she fought tooth and nail to get that position and even was a huge asset to her law firm.

Don't think for a second that deaf and hard of hearing people are inferior to hearing people. Granted they are not suitable for combat roles in which hearing and communication is essential, but that doesn't mean they are a "waste of space and money and rely upon others to pick up their slack."
 

 
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Gets to deployability and interchangeability of personnel

I can always put a deploy admin or mechanic on the wall to defend the FOB something this would impact the ability to do


So don't deploy them to FOBs, keep them at other bases that don't see combat but they can still play a role in serving their military.
 



If you cannot deploy to where ever the military needs you then you are a waste of space and money. You are also a burden on everyone else that can do those things because they pick up your slack.


Clarify the red.



There are deaf people that I know of who can easily kick any hearing person's ass at dissembling an engine block and replacing a cracked valve. There's another one I know of whose a legal assistant and she fought tooth and nail to get that position and even was a huge asset to her law firm.

Don't think for a second that deaf and hard of hearing people are inferior to hearing people. Granted they are not suitable for combat roles in which hearing and communication is essential, but that doesn't mean they are a "waste of space and money and rely upon others to pick up their slack."
 

 


If you are in theater you are in a combat roll, you aren't carrying that rifle over your shoulder for fun. That could mean standing a guard post, being on QRF, gate guard, perimeter patrol etc. Even if you are a pogue on a base doing a support mission or turning a wrench your unit is still expected to give up bodies for these jobs.
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There are deaf people that I know of who can easily kick any hearing person's ass at dissembling an engine block and replacing a cracked valve. There's another one I know of whose a legal assistant and she fought tooth and nail to get that position and even was a huge asset to her law firm.

Don't think for a second that deaf and hard of hearing people are inferior to hearing people. Granted they are not suitable for combat roles in which hearing and communication is essential, but that doesn't mean they are a "waste of space and money and rely upon others to pick up their slack."
 

 
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Gets to deployability and interchangeability of personnel

I can always put a deploy admin or mechanic on the wall to defend the FOB something this would impact the ability to do


So don't deploy them to FOBs, keep them at other bases that don't see combat but they can still play a role in serving their military.
 



If you cannot deploy to where ever the military needs you then you are a waste of space and money. You are also a burden on everyone else that can do those things because they pick up your slack.


Clarify the red.



There are deaf people that I know of who can easily kick any hearing person's ass at dissembling an engine block and replacing a cracked valve. There's another one I know of whose a legal assistant and she fought tooth and nail to get that position and even was a huge asset to her law firm.

Don't think for a second that deaf and hard of hearing people are inferior to hearing people. Granted they are not suitable for combat roles in which hearing and communication is essential, but that doesn't mean they are a "waste of space and money and rely upon others to pick up their slack."
 

 


If you are partially deaf and your unit is deploying and you cannot deploy you are putting a gap in the roster and they are another man down. They will have to pick up your slack because you are not there to do your job. So since you cannot deploy and do your job in every place the military asks you, you are indeed a waste of space and money.
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