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Posted: 9/6/2014 11:34:05 PM EDT
For the first time, the YES vote leads.
It looks like more Scots are leaning toward independence, if the latest polls are to be believed.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-29096458
Link Posted: 9/6/2014 11:34:59 PM EDT
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Dumb bastards.  

Sober up, then vote.
Link Posted: 9/6/2014 11:35:15 PM EDT
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Braveheart 2?

Link Posted: 9/6/2014 11:36:12 PM EDT
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Do they know that they will be responsible for their own welfare costs if independent?
Link Posted: 9/6/2014 11:37:36 PM EDT
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This is like Michigan trying to secede.  
Link Posted: 9/6/2014 11:37:54 PM EDT
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More like Trainspotting 2.
Link Posted: 9/6/2014 11:38:32 PM EDT
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This is like Michigan trying to secede.  
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This is like Michigan trying to secede.  

More like West Virginia
Link Posted: 9/6/2014 11:40:06 PM EDT
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The Pentavaret had better get cracking if they want to stay in control.
Link Posted: 9/6/2014 11:40:21 PM EDT
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If N. Ireland couldn't do it, I doubt Scotland could. Just being honest.
Link Posted: 9/6/2014 11:41:30 PM EDT
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According to arfcom, Scotland is even more anti-gun, anti-weapon than England is.  If that is the case there will be yet another socialist/communist country being created in the Western Hemisphere.
Link Posted: 9/6/2014 11:42:07 PM EDT
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FREEDOM!!!!!
Link Posted: 9/6/2014 11:42:17 PM EDT
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Good for them.  
They are also calling "Scots" it's own language now. That's a stretch
Link Posted: 9/6/2014 11:43:31 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/6/2014 11:46:08 PM EDT
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Independent Scotland means the UK will suddenly be a lot more conservative. I'm good with it. A UK focused on austerity could be a great thing.
Link Posted: 9/6/2014 11:50:08 PM EDT
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Uh, Scots is it's own language. It is related to English but technically descended from Middle English and not Modern English.







Unless you're telling me that "Auld Lang Syne" is completely readable to you. That being said, most Scottish people these days merely speak modern English with some Scots words thrown in.







So, it's funny if you think about it, Scotland technically has three languages; Scottish Gaelic, Scots, and English.



 
Link Posted: 9/6/2014 11:52:24 PM EDT
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I understand that England has stationed nuclear weapons there
Link Posted: 9/6/2014 11:53:22 PM EDT
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Uh, Scots is it's own language. It is related to English but technically descended from Middle English and not Modern English.

Unless you're telling me that "Auld Lang Syne" is completely readable to you. That being said, most Scottish people these days merely speak modern English with some Scots words thrown in.

So, it's funny if you think about it, Scotland technically has three languages; Scottish Gaelic, Scots, and English.
 
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Good for them.  
They are also calling "Scots" it's own language now. That's a stretch


Uh, Scots is it's own language. It is related to English but technically descended from Middle English and not Modern English.

Unless you're telling me that "Auld Lang Syne" is completely readable to you. That being said, most Scottish people these days merely speak modern English with some Scots words thrown in.

So, it's funny if you think about it, Scotland technically has three languages; Scottish Gaelic, Scots, and English.
 


I assumes they meant just the local version of English  and were stretching.
I see that they may actually be referring to a less commonly spoken form with different roots

Thanks
Link Posted: 9/6/2014 11:53:25 PM EDT
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Uh, Scots is it's own language. It is related to English but technically descended from Middle English and not Modern English.

Unless you're telling me that "Auld Lang Syne" is completely readable to you. That being said, most Scottish people these days merely speak modern English with some Scots words thrown in.

So, it's funny if you think about it, Scotland technically has three languages; Scottish Gaelic, Scots, and English.
 
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Good for them.  
They are also calling "Scots" it's own language now. That's a stretch


Uh, Scots is it's own language. It is related to English but technically descended from Middle English and not Modern English.

Unless you're telling me that "Auld Lang Syne" is completely readable to you. That being said, most Scottish people these days merely speak modern English with some Scots words thrown in.

So, it's funny if you think about it, Scotland technically has three languages; Scottish Gaelic, Scots, and English.
 


It's all English, just three levels of intoxication.
Link Posted: 9/6/2014 11:56:00 PM EDT
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The British members of the board think this is a great thing IIRC, since it would make the rest of the country swing right.
Link Posted: 9/6/2014 11:59:30 PM EDT
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And free up a ton of cash that goes to welfare.
Link Posted: 9/7/2014 12:08:21 AM EDT
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Which is in itself odd, given their history of resisting English invasions. (and killing the fuck out of each other as well during their clan warfare periods.)
Link Posted: 9/7/2014 12:09:30 AM EDT
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I think they should go for it, fail and England proves it's got minerals by mmarching across the border with fixed bayos and conquer it.

Link Posted: 9/7/2014 12:11:20 AM EDT
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Yes, and they fully expect them to buy plenty of beer.

And Irn Bru, because someone has to drive.
Link Posted: 9/7/2014 12:11:30 AM EDT
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I hope it passes.
 












For England's sake.
Link Posted: 9/7/2014 12:12:34 AM EDT
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Scotii, Scotti.  Rome hated them
Link Posted: 9/7/2014 12:14:10 AM EDT
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Romans hated everyone who weren't from the Italian peninsula.
Link Posted: 9/7/2014 12:16:31 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/7/2014 12:21:56 AM EDT
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Predicting this.


'Scotish Independence'

will become...


'Horrible fucking train wreck at the end.'

Link Posted: 9/7/2014 12:24:19 AM EDT
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And free up a ton of cash that goes to welfare.
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And free up a ton of cash that goes to welfare.


I keep reading this, but I have no idea how it is in reality. How much different is Scotland from England when it comes to welfare? The Scottish always seem to complain that a disproportionate amount of their tax money goes to fund stuff related in England and whatnot. I really have no idea which is why I am asking. And how does Wales and North Ireland figure into this? Less welfare based than Scotland?
Link Posted: 9/7/2014 12:24:22 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/7/2014 12:28:57 AM EDT
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All their Nuke Subs, which is all the Nukes they have left.

All the infrastructure is in Scotland, too. A real problem for the Brits if the Scots secede.
Link Posted: 9/7/2014 12:48:39 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/7/2014 12:49:35 AM EDT
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If Scootland secedes.....England should keep their mouths shut and call it a win!!!





It'd be like us losing the left coast....or the OTHER left coast.....or having our entire government kidnapped by rabid alien rapists.   Win!!!

Link Posted: 9/7/2014 12:49:42 AM EDT
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Anything to get away from the monarchy.
Link Posted: 9/7/2014 12:51:10 AM EDT
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FREEDOM!!!!!
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It couldn't happen at a more fitting time. 700 year anniversary of Bannockburn.
Link Posted: 9/7/2014 12:53:13 AM EDT
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The secessionist movement is growing both here and abroad.  

I'm waiting for Germany to leave NATO.  France will follow.  Both do a lot more trade with Russia and Russia controls their gas.  

Tibet wants out of the workers' Paradise.  

Moros in the Philippines (and they've been wanting it for a century).

Kurds want their own land from the Turks and Iraqis.

Here in America we've got states that want to break up.  Jefferson in No CA and OR.  Northern CO wants to secede from Denver.  Texas talks about splitting from Estados Unidos.  

How many African nations would break into tribal nations if permitted?  Let them. Less tribal killings that way.
Link Posted: 9/7/2014 12:57:34 AM EDT
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I know it'll hassle the Brits, what with having to move their boomers to the US for a while, but they really should cut Scotland the fuck off. No Great Britain Pound, no Dominion, start requiring visas, etc.

Because fuck Scotland.
Link Posted: 9/7/2014 1:00:40 AM EDT
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I was in Scotland a few years ago. There was a large billboard on the edge of town. Encouraging people to turn in their neighbors if they thought they owned any
illegal guns.
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I know it'll hassle the Brits, what with having to move their boomers to the US for a while, but they really should cut Scotland the fuck off. No Great Britain Pound, no Dominion, start requiring visas, etc.



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Hell, based on the 2010 UK election map it looks like it'll do England a huge favor. Labour and Lib-Dems will lose a lot more of their power base than the Conservatives will.




Of the 59 parliament seats in Scotland, only one is Conservative.
Link Posted: 9/7/2014 1:18:02 AM EDT
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My guess is it will fail miserably... People who vote in polls aren't the ones that vote at the polls, if you catch my drift... at least for this referendum!
Link Posted: 9/7/2014 8:07:18 AM EDT
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Politicians will put a stop to this with their dirty tricks...can't lose that huge chunk of labor votes and decimate any chances of labor returning to power in england
Link Posted: 9/7/2014 8:20:56 AM EDT
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That's true. They'll just have the Queen of Scotland. Who also happens to be the Queen of England. I take it you don't understand the concept behind the Union?



 
Link Posted: 9/7/2014 8:25:13 AM EDT
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The Scottish Parliament are CURRENTLY processing a new law, that will make owning an airgun, sorry - an AirWEAPON (New Scots Gov't speak for "airgun") -  MORE difficult than it (presently) is to own a shotgun

The fat cunt in my avatar is DerNeueFuehrer und Gross Gaulieter, "King" Alec Salmond - he IS on record as wanting a total gun ban in Scotland

IF the vote goes to YES, I'm moving back to England, as Scotland WILL be royally fucked....Salmond for years was following his "Celtic Tigers" of Iceland & Ireland - the economies of which as you are aware, royally shit the bed big style

Think a cross between current-day Greece & 1950's East Germany (but take away the money they had from Moscow)

The dumb fat fuck is a QUALIFIED economist, yet has NO PLAN B for a currency (He wants to keep the English Pound, the Bank of England told him to get fucked...(but in more padded TV news friendly terms)
Scotland would also have to adhere to Schengen, so England WOULD need to erect border controls to control illegal immigration

Think of an Independent Scotland being like a badly run African Marxist state, and you'll not be too far off
Link Posted: 9/7/2014 8:26:31 AM EDT
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the Scots will get independence in the Brit's wildest dreams.
Imagine that financial load off the books...
then again, after the Scots descend into third-world status, the Brits would have to step back in and clean up the mess.
Link Posted: 9/7/2014 8:33:13 AM EDT
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I took a couple Scots out shooting earlier this summer, and converted them.

AR was their favorite, with the Garand a close second.
Link Posted: 9/7/2014 8:36:36 AM EDT
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The Scottish Parliament are CURRENTLY processing a new law, that will make owning an airgun, sorry - an AirWEAPON (New Scots Gov't speak for "airgun") -  MORE difficult than it (presently) is to own a shotgun

The fat cunt in my avatar is DerNeueFuehrer und Gross Gaulieter, "King" Alec Salmond - he IS on record as wanting a total gun ban in Scotland

IF the vote goes to YES, I'm moving back to England, as Scotland WILL be royally fucked....Salmond for years was following his "Celtic Tigers" of Iceland & Ireland - the economies of which as you are aware, royally shit the bed big style

Think a cross between current-day Greece & 1950's East Germany (but take away the money they had from Moscow)

The dumb fat fuck is a QUALIFIED economist, yet has NO PLAN B for a currency (He wants to keep the English Pound, the Bank of England told him to get fucked...(but in more padded TV news friendly terms)
Scotland would also have to adhere to Schengen, so England WOULD need to erect border controls to control illegal immigration

Think of an Independent Scotland being like a badly run African Marxist state, and you'll not be too far off
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According to arfcom, Scotland is even more anti-gun, anti-weapon than England is.  If that is the case there will be yet another socialist/communist country being created in the Western Hemisphere.


The Scottish Parliament are CURRENTLY processing a new law, that will make owning an airgun, sorry - an AirWEAPON (New Scots Gov't speak for "airgun") -  MORE difficult than it (presently) is to own a shotgun

The fat cunt in my avatar is DerNeueFuehrer und Gross Gaulieter, "King" Alec Salmond - he IS on record as wanting a total gun ban in Scotland

IF the vote goes to YES, I'm moving back to England, as Scotland WILL be royally fucked....Salmond for years was following his "Celtic Tigers" of Iceland & Ireland - the economies of which as you are aware, royally shit the bed big style

Think a cross between current-day Greece & 1950's East Germany (but take away the money they had from Moscow)

The dumb fat fuck is a QUALIFIED economist, yet has NO PLAN B for a currency (He wants to keep the English Pound, the Bank of England told him to get fucked...(but in more padded TV news friendly terms)
Scotland would also have to adhere to Schengen, so England WOULD need to erect border controls to control illegal immigration

Think of an Independent Scotland being like a badly run African Marxist state, and you'll not be too far off


Considering how getting all those Marxists out of the UK Parliament forever will improve the UK's future, it really is a good thing.

Sometimes you simply have to face the fact that a gangrenous limb needs to be amputated.
Link Posted: 9/7/2014 8:38:07 AM EDT
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  Hell, based on the 2010 UK election map it looks like it'll do England a huge favor. Labour and Lib-Dems will lose a lot more of their power base than the Conservatives will.

Of the 59 parliament seats in Scotland, only one is Conservative.
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I know it'll hassle the Brits, what with having to move their boomers to the US for a while, but they really should cut Scotland the fuck off. No Great Britain Pound, no Dominion, start requiring visas, etc.

Because fuck Scotland.

  Hell, based on the 2010 UK election map it looks like it'll do England a huge favor. Labour and Lib-Dems will lose a lot more of their power base than the Conservatives will.

Of the 59 parliament seats in Scotland, only one is Conservative.


Known as "The West Lothian Question"

Aside from the Scottish elected MP's voting in London & swaying the results for the non-Scots electorate, there is also the fact that the worst recent British Prime Ministers were Scottish (Brown, BLIAR, etc.)

The Scots SNP & Independence seekers FORGET that Scotland came cap in hand, begging to join the UK, as it'd pissed away ALL its money in a foreign investment scheme & SCOTLAND WAS BANKRUPT...
How times change...IF it goes it alone after the vote on the 18th, my first point of call on the 19th is the local betting shop - Scotland bankrupt within 5 years (allowing the SNP the last 2 years of the 5 to spin it to the electorate that everything in the garden is rosy) - £100 on the nose.
Wonder what odds they'll give me?

Link Posted: 9/7/2014 8:41:58 AM EDT
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...more likely given the SNP politics, is Putin will step in, or one of the SNP's fellow anti-Israeli colleague Arab (oil rich) states
Link Posted: 9/7/2014 8:52:29 AM EDT
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Anyone that was ever a fan of Rabb C. Nesbitt (Scottish TV comedy) has to be worried by this development.
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