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Posted: 8/26/2014 8:07:22 PM EDT
Let's say you find a purse. It is sitting on a bench all by itself and no one is around. You open the purse and find a driver's license with the owner's address and you find $5,000 in cash. You can take the money and no one will ever know that it was you.
Let's just go ahead and say that it is dishonest to keep the money. But, there is no chance that you will ever get caught, you're technically not stealing and who couldn't use $5,000? So, do you keep the money, or do you return it to the owner? If you return it, then why do you return it?
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Quoted: Let's say you find a purse. It is sitting on a bench all by itself and no one is around. You open the purse and find a driver's license with the owner's address and you find $5,000 in cash. You can take the money and no one will ever know that it was you. View Quote Let's just go ahead and say that it is dishonest to keep the money. But, there is no chance that you will ever get caught, you're technically not stealing and who couldn't use $5,000? So, do you keep the money, or do you return it to the owner? If you return it, then why do you return it? Wat??
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People will lie in this thread. People are generally fuckfaces
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Return it. I would hope that if I was stupid enough to forget my wallet somewhere with any sum of money, that I would get the same respect.
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I return it. I know who's property the purse and its contents are.
Why? Because I'm not a thief. |
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Quoted: Let's just go ahead and say that it is dishonest to keep the money. But, there is no chance that you will ever get caught, you're technically not stealing and who couldn't use $5,000? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Let's say you find a purse. It is sitting on a bench all by itself and no one is around. You open the purse and find a driver's license with the owner's address and you find $5,000 in cash. You can take the money and no one will ever know that it was you. Let's just go ahead and say that it is dishonest to keep the money. But, there is no chance that you will ever get caught, you're technically not stealing and who couldn't use $5,000? So, do you keep the money, or do you return it to the owner? If you return it, then why do you return it? Wat?? You found it. You didn't grab it from her and run. It's my scenario and if I say you're not stealing then you're not stealing...and I say you're not stealing. The Foot has spoken! |
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I found $80 in the floor of the DMV last week. I was the only one there.
I picked it up, handed it to a lady at the counter, and told her someone might come back looking for this. $5,000 isn't enough to buy my dignity. $500,000 might be. |
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So, do you keep the money, or do you return it to the owner? If you return it, then why do you return it? Wat?? You found it. You didn't grab it from her and run. It's my scenario and if I say you're not stealing then you're not stealing...and I say you're not stealing. The Foot has spoken! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Let's say you find a purse. It is sitting on a bench all by itself and no one is around. You open the purse and find a driver's license with the owner's address and you find $5,000 in cash. You can take the money and no one will ever know that it was you. So, do you keep the money, or do you return it to the owner? If you return it, then why do you return it? Wat?? You found it. You didn't grab it from her and run. It's my scenario and if I say you're not stealing then you're not stealing...and I say you're not stealing. The Foot has spoken! If you take it, and it isn't yours, you are stealing. You know it belongs to someone else. |
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Return it because you ARE stealing, there's a license with a name and address on it. . Just because its sitting on the bench all by itself doesn't mean its not stealing if you find it and don't return it. You ever "find" a car sitting there running with nobody in it? Do you take that car too because "technically you aren't stealing"?
WTF op? |
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Quoted: I found $80 in the floor of the DMV last week. I was the only one there. I picked it up, handed it to a lady at the counter, and told her someone might come back looking for this. $5,000 isn't enough to buy my dignity. $500,000 might be. View Quote But why does your dignity hinge on whether or not you give the money back? Why is it important to you in your own eyes to give it back?
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Better question.
You are going through old boxes at work. You find $600 paper clipped to a note that says "found next to register" with a date on it from 6 years ago. Nobody ever claimed it. Everyone forgot about it. What do you do? What did I do?
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Found one in the middle of a highway.
It had been run over a few times and stuff was scattered all over the road. I had to be careful dodging cars (not busy) and find what the wind didn't take. Did some detective work and found the lady who owned it, called her to pick it up. Turns out she left it on the back of her truck while loading stuff at home depot. She made it about a mile before it fell off. she lived 30 miles away. I didn't ask for a reward, she didn't offer. |
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Quoted: If you take it, and it isn't yours, you are stealing. You know it belongs to someone else. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Let's say you find a purse. It is sitting on a bench all by itself and no one is around. You open the purse and find a driver's license with the owner's address and you find $5,000 in cash. You can take the money and no one will ever know that it was you. So, do you keep the money, or do you return it to the owner? If you return it, then why do you return it? Wat?? You found it. You didn't grab it from her and run. It's my scenario and if I say you're not stealing then you're not stealing...and I say you're not stealing. The Foot has spoken! If you take it, and it isn't yours, you are stealing. You know it belongs to someone else. Allow me to clarify: 1. Completely hypothetical scenario. There is no purse or money involved. 2. Legal ramifications, or the threat of legal ramifications are not a factor. I don't want to know that you would give the money back because the cops might dust the purse for fingerprints and then come arrest you. I say you're not stealing, so you're not stealing.
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I would return it because it is the moral thing to do based simply on my personal opinion.
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Allow me to clarify: 1. Completely hypothetical scenario. There is no purse or money involved. 2. Legal ramifications, or the threat of legal ramifications are not a factor. I don't want to know that you would give the money back because the cops might dust the purse for fingerprints and then come arrest you. I say you're not stealing, so you're not stealing. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Let's say you find a purse. It is sitting on a bench all by itself and no one is around. You open the purse and find a driver's license with the owner's address and you find $5,000 in cash. You can take the money and no one will ever know that it was you. So, do you keep the money, or do you return it to the owner? If you return it, then why do you return it? Wat?? You found it. You didn't grab it from her and run. It's my scenario and if I say you're not stealing then you're not stealing...and I say you're not stealing. The Foot has spoken! If you take it, and it isn't yours, you are stealing. You know it belongs to someone else. Allow me to clarify: 1. Completely hypothetical scenario. There is no purse or money involved. 2. Legal ramifications, or the threat of legal ramifications are not a factor. I don't want to know that you would give the money back because the cops might dust the purse for fingerprints and then come arrest you. I say you're not stealing, so you're not stealing. It's stealing |
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I would return it. The purse, ID, and money don't belong to me.
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Let's say you find a purse. It is sitting on a bench all by itself and no one is around. You open the purse and find a driver's license with the owner's address and you find $5,000 in cash. You can take the money and no one will ever know that it was you. Let's just go ahead and say that it is dishonest to keep the money. But, there is no chance that you will ever get caught, you're technically not stealing and who couldn't use $5,000? So, do you keep the money, or do you return it to the owner? If you return it, then why do you return it? View Quote Actually, technically you are stealing it. |
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But why does your dignity hinge on whether or not you give the money back? Why is it important to you in your own eyes to give it back? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I found $80 in the floor of the DMV last week. I was the only one there. I picked it up, handed it to a lady at the counter, and told her someone might come back looking for this. $5,000 isn't enough to buy my dignity. $500,000 might be. But why does your dignity hinge on whether or not you give the money back? Why is it important to you in your own eyes to give it back? Do you even righteous bro? |
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Return it because it's the right thing to do. Also, Jesus approves of its return, you wouldn't want that to happen to you, you should feel bad for the owners loss, and your father taught you right from wrong or should have.
ETA: voted return it other reason, return it all of the above.
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Allow me to clarify: 1. Completely hypothetical scenario. There is no purse or money involved. 2. Legal ramifications, or the threat of legal ramifications are not a factor. I don't want to know that you would give the money back because the cops might dust the purse for fingerprints and then come arrest you. I say you're not stealing, so you're not stealing. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Let's say you find a purse. It is sitting on a bench all by itself and no one is around. You open the purse and find a driver's license with the owner's address and you find $5,000 in cash. You can take the money and no one will ever know that it was you. So, do you keep the money, or do you return it to the owner? If you return it, then why do you return it? Wat?? You found it. You didn't grab it from her and run. It's my scenario and if I say you're not stealing then you're not stealing...and I say you're not stealing. The Foot has spoken! If you take it, and it isn't yours, you are stealing. You know it belongs to someone else. Allow me to clarify: 1. Completely hypothetical scenario. There is no purse or money involved. 2. Legal ramifications, or the threat of legal ramifications are not a factor. I don't want to know that you would give the money back because the cops might dust the purse for fingerprints and then come arrest you. I say you're not stealing, so you're not stealing. So, like, I am metal detecting on a beach. I get a hit, dig up a tin can, and there is $5,000 cash in the tin can and nothing else? Yeah, who the hell wouldn't keep that money? Lost money, with no reasonable method of knowing or contacting the owner, and not way of having assumed owner prove ownership? That's mine. |
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Let's say you find a purse. It is sitting on a bench all by itself and no one is around. You open the purse and find a driver's license with the owner's address and you find $5,000 in cash. You can take the money and no one will ever know that it was you. Let's just go ahead and say that it is dishonest to keep the money. But, there is no chance that you will ever get caught, you're technically not stealing and who couldn't use $5,000? So, do you keep the money, or do you return it to the owner? If you return it, then why do you return it? View Quote Are you the Debil? |
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I lost my wallet once when I was a teen. Heart hammering like mad as I walked up to the counter where I'd last had it. The cashier handed it to me right off, with all $180-something dollars in it.
I'd hem and haw, and probably cuss myself for a fool, but yeah, I'd probably return the purse. I found an iphone once. Had to learn how to hack it to get past the screen lock to find the owner, and then drive across town to return it. Poll needs "because it's the right thing to do," option. |
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Let's say you find a purse. It is sitting on a bench all by itself and no one is around. You open the purse and find a driver's license with the owner's address and you find $5,000 in cash. You can take the money and no one will ever know that it was you. Let's just go ahead and say that it is dishonest to keep the money. But, there is no chance that you will ever get caught, you're technically not stealing and who couldn't use $5,000? So, do you keep the money, or do you return it to the owner? If you return it, then why do you return it? View Quote Technically, it is in fact stealing. You even know who it belongs to. |
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Quoted: I would return it because it is the moral thing to do based simply on my personal opinion. View Quote OK, let me try... I would return the money because I would empathize with the person who lost it. There are very, very few people in this world who wouldn't shit and freak out if they lost that much money. If I lost $5,000, just left it sitting on a bench, I would probably freak out 8 ways from Sunday. Might bust out crying like baby. Getting their money back to them would probably be pretty damn near miraculous for them. Doesn't matter who they are or what they need the money for, or how much money they have. And to be honest, it really doesn't matter how much money is in the purse. Could be $5, could be no money at all. Maybe just getting the purse back would make them happy. Maybe getting their drivers license back would make them happy. I wouldn't do it because I would be afraid that Jesus is watching, or because I thought maybe by doing something nice then maybe someone would do something nice for me. I would do it because it might be a chance for me to help make someone's shitty day better.
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I found a bike. I saw a guy just leave it at the rack, locked it up and then just leave it! Fuck that, finder's keepers!
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For me personally, five grand would buy almost every possession I own besides my car which I own free and clear. I couldn't afford to lose five grand. I wouldn't leave it sitting around, but shit happens sometimes.
The person who lost that five grand might be just like me, going through a divorce without a pot to piss in. That 5k might be their life savings. I couldn't take that from somebody, even if it would give me a major leg up in this world. |
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OK, let me try... I would return the money because I would empathize with the person who lost it. There are very, very few people in this world who wouldn't shit and freak out if they lost that much money. If I lost $5,000, just left it sitting on a bench, I would probably freak out 8 ways from Sunday. Might bust out crying like baby. Getting their money back to them would probably be pretty damn near miraculous for them. Doesn't matter who they are or what they need the money for, or how much money they have. And to be honest, it really doesn't matter how much money is in the purse. Could be $5, could be no money at all. Maybe just getting the purse back would make them happy. Maybe getting their drivers license back would make them happy. I wouldn't do it because I would be afraid that Jesus is watching, or because I thought maybe by doing something nice then maybe someone would do something nice for me. I would do it because it might be a chance for me to help make someone's shitty day better. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I would return it because it is the moral thing to do based simply on my personal opinion. OK, let me try... I would return the money because I would empathize with the person who lost it. There are very, very few people in this world who wouldn't shit and freak out if they lost that much money. If I lost $5,000, just left it sitting on a bench, I would probably freak out 8 ways from Sunday. Might bust out crying like baby. Getting their money back to them would probably be pretty damn near miraculous for them. Doesn't matter who they are or what they need the money for, or how much money they have. And to be honest, it really doesn't matter how much money is in the purse. Could be $5, could be no money at all. Maybe just getting the purse back would make them happy. Maybe getting their drivers license back would make them happy. I wouldn't do it because I would be afraid that Jesus is watching, or because I thought maybe by doing something nice then maybe someone would do something nice for me. I would do it because it might be a chance for me to help make someone's shitty day better. I have no empathy. Zip, zero, nada. Just isn't part of my thought process for dealing with something like this. That's weird to me that you do. |
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Allow me to clarify: 1. Completely hypothetical scenario. There is no purse or money involved. 2. Legal ramifications, or the threat of legal ramifications are not a factor. I don't want to know that you would give the money back because the cops might dust the purse for fingerprints and then come arrest you. I say you're not stealing, so you're not stealing. View Quote Welcome to moral nihilism and anarchy, buddy. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I found $80 in the floor of the DMV last week. I was the only one there. I picked it up, handed it to a lady at the counter, and told her someone might come back looking for this. $5,000 isn't enough to buy my dignity. $500,000 might be. But why does your dignity hinge on whether or not you give the money back? Why is it important to you in your own eyes to give it back? Do you even righteous bro? Because I am taking Ethics this semester and I want to know what motivates people to be honest. God? Fear? Desire to do good things? Doing right is it's own reward? Or are you just doing what you were raised to do and don't really know or care why?
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Because I am taking Ethics this semester and I want to know what motivates people to be honest. God? Fear? Desire to do good things? Doing right is it's own reward? Or are you just doing what you were raised to do and don't really know or care why? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I found $80 in the floor of the DMV last week. I was the only one there. I picked it up, handed it to a lady at the counter, and told her someone might come back looking for this. $5,000 isn't enough to buy my dignity. $500,000 might be. But why does your dignity hinge on whether or not you give the money back? Why is it important to you in your own eyes to give it back? Do you even righteous bro? Because I am taking Ethics this semester and I want to know what motivates people to be honest. God? Fear? Desire to do good things? Doing right is it's own reward? Or are you just doing what you were raised to do and don't really know or care why? I got a little guy on my shoulder that tells me what to do. |
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Allow me to clarify: 1. Completely hypothetical scenario. There is no purse or money involved. 2. Legal ramifications, or the threat of legal ramifications are not a factor. I don't want to know that you would give the money back because the cops might dust the purse for fingerprints and then come arrest you. I say you're not stealing, so you're not stealing. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Let's say you find a purse. It is sitting on a bench all by itself and no one is around. You open the purse and find a driver's license with the owner's address and you find $5,000 in cash. You can take the money and no one will ever know that it was you. So, do you keep the money, or do you return it to the owner? If you return it, then why do you return it? Wat?? You found it. You didn't grab it from her and run. It's my scenario and if I say you're not stealing then you're not stealing...and I say you're not stealing. The Foot has spoken! If you take it, and it isn't yours, you are stealing. You know it belongs to someone else. Allow me to clarify: 1. Completely hypothetical scenario. There is no purse or money involved. 2. Legal ramifications, or the threat of legal ramifications are not a factor. I don't want to know that you would give the money back because the cops might dust the purse for fingerprints and then come arrest you. I say you're not stealing, so you're not stealing. You can say that it isn't stealing, but it is. You are taking something that isn't yours. |
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Quoted: I have no empathy. Zip, zero, nada. Just isn't part of my thought process for dealing with something like this. That's weird to me that you do. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I would return it because it is the moral thing to do based simply on my personal opinion. OK, let me try... I would return the money because I would empathize with the person who lost it. There are very, very few people in this world who wouldn't shit and freak out if they lost that much money. If I lost $5,000, just left it sitting on a bench, I would probably freak out 8 ways from Sunday. Might bust out crying like baby. Getting their money back to them would probably be pretty damn near miraculous for them. Doesn't matter who they are or what they need the money for, or how much money they have. And to be honest, it really doesn't matter how much money is in the purse. Could be $5, could be no money at all. Maybe just getting the purse back would make them happy. Maybe getting their drivers license back would make them happy. I wouldn't do it because I would be afraid that Jesus is watching, or because I thought maybe by doing something nice then maybe someone would do something nice for me. I would do it because it might be a chance for me to help make someone's shitty day better. I have no empathy. Zip, zero, nada. Just isn't part of my thought process for dealing with something like this. That's weird to me that you do. That surprises me about you. Not saying that it makes you a bad person, but I am surprised by it. |
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I don't have to imagine this situation I had almost this exact thing happen to me but at an airport. I turned the purse in to the airline rep; when the old lady came and got it she was pretty happy.
I returned it because there is no point in taking what doesn't belong to me. |
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